Bad/bloated web design

[PlainName]

Gotta be my browser, then (Waterfox). Doubt if it's the Google analytics blocker

[Ranayna]

There is a lot of other things to complain about this page though
Come on, an animated "accept all cookies" button? 

[MrMobodies]

Massive big spammy toolbar on this website all of a sudden hiding on the slightest scroll so I turned the headerhiderfixer off to see how it would look:






I noticed on archive.org there was a point where the huge header wasn't fixed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200418063338/https://community.autism.org.uk/


I believe some overzealous person thought, oh because it is deemed so helpful to navigation where they can get to the buttons easily and quickly navigate, we'll stick on everywhere and everything except they didn't think of those it works against by the distraction and bloat by the room that one takes up over the contents.

I wouldn't mind if there was a fixed widget on sides at the top to show hide the thing when I want it or don't want t but at that size I'd have to scroll more but the distraction itself is where I'd choose to hide it.

As typical no regard for user preference for those who don't want it stuck there constantly.

Don't you think that is massive?

[PlainName]

I believe some overzealous person thought, oh because it is deemed so helpful to navigation where they can get to the buttons easily and quickly navigate

Possibly designed for phones (who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?). With those, there needs to be some way of popping up the toolbar when all the furniture is hidden to allow max space for the web page. Usually that's on a down scroll only, though...

[MrMobodies]

Possibly designed for phones

Yes but that's being going on since 2015.

(who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?

I do. I REFUSE to use a mobile or tablet to browse and as well as no tactile keyboard I'd loose me temper over the following:
Hardly any browser control to find and hide spammy things that annoy me like, suggestions, loading animations/eye hurting dimming overlay, transitional things that flash the page, excessive use of spinners, gradients that obscure the pictures and set false illusions of clouds and shadows, animated skeleton loading placeholders flash annoy and slow the whole thing down.

With those, there needs to be some way of popping up the toolbar when all the furniture is hidden to allow max space for the web page  . Usually that's on a down scroll only, though...

That'd be great if they could start doing that where it could work for both and give the user a choice over the room of screen area. Something I'd expect in this day and age instead of ramming in yer face.

[PlainName]

who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?

Just in case it wasn't clear, I was trying to be ironic there

[MrMobodies]

After watching Louise Rossman talk about a vacuum made by Hoover. and complaining about the warranty I thought I'd go and see if they still put the Queens logo on them "By appointment of Queen" etc.

I don't see any when I looked at one on Very.co.uk but the page took like 8 seconds to load with all this animated crap.

https://www.very.co.uk/hoover-h-energy-300-pets-bagged-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner/1600809924.prd

36% CPU time

24% CPU time

3% CPU time with all that stupid crap gone.


Page now loads instantly or a few seconds with the content further below in place of those things instead of those things flashing everywhere, hogging up the CPU via that gradient cycling thing causing the whole thing to slow down on every page load.

Stupid stupid stupid stupid!
When I see these things they just make me go absolutely mad.

very.co.uk##.tvg-overlay-enter-done
very.co.uk##[data-testid="product-card-skeleton"]
very.co.uk##[data-testid="fuse-skeleton-test-id"]
very.co.uk##[data-testid="verypay-skeleton-card"]
##.tvg-overlay-enter-done
##[data-testid="product-card-skeleton"]
##[data-testid="fuse-skeleton-test-id"]
##[data-testid="verypay-skeleton-card"]

Maybe I should make some more wildcard variants of the element names above on my blocklist so by chance I won't see them on other websites.

[MrMobodies]

Just noticed this fixed little question mark on Ebay which opens this dialogue


Other than animated light overlay it seems nice and simple with no dimming overlays around it or resource wasting decorations/animated skeleton placeholers.


Dialogue can be dragged and is made translucent on moving it.

They seem to have managed to make something fixed, for a change that is simple, out of the way, not too distracting without bloating it with too many animations and annoying stuff.

Thank you very much ebay.

[MrMobodies]

Just noticed IMDB going really slow recent then I noticed this CPU resource wasting crap making it's way on IMDB before the page finishes loading.


Over 30% CPU time wasted on that stupidity after every page load.

There don't see to be many of these maybe 2 or 4 squares that flash but the page seems to load much more quickly now without stalling or those things flashing away as I scroll. There are still static placeholders and some thumbnails or pictures appear later without it stalling.

##.ipc-skeleton.ipc-skeleton--rectangle.ipc-skeleton--base.ipc-skeleton--pulse
##.ipc-skeleton.ipc-skeleton--rectangle.ipc-skeleton--base.ipc-skeleton--pulse
imbb.com##.sc-czgmHJ.kHVbLh
##.ipc-loader.ipc-loader--dot.discoveryfeature--loader
##.ipc-loader__container
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--one
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--two
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--three
##.discoveryfeature--loader
##.ipc-skeleton--pulse
##.ipc-skeleton--base
##.ipc-skeleton--rectangle
##.ipc-loader
##.inline-video-start-loader
##.ipc-loader ipc-loader--dot
imdb.com##.sc-b6f25f39-0.elKCjC
##.ipc-chip--on-base.ipc-scroll-to-top-button
##.feature-name-news__loader
##.right-rail-more-to-explore
imdb.com##.ipc-page-section.ipc-page-section--none.recently-viewed-items

Remove some other crap like the fixed widget that scrolls to top, unwanted fixed widgets on the side and recently viewed items that I don't want to see just because I saw it once.

I am starting to HATE that word "LOADER" when used in this way.
It doesn't load any content but those stupid things.

It does not need a "loader" unless the person who put it there is trying to make out that they themselves are very important for designing something that sounds very important for some decorations that hog up CPU time and slow it down everything during the page load for things that are not needed but more of a nuisance.

[MrMobodies]

I was getting pretty annoyed by this appearing again but found the culprit:


I complained to Amazon a couple of weeks ago to be told that it was the private marketplace sellers doing it  and are now free to customize the page how they see including altering stuff that has nothing to do with them and I believed the gentleman because he told me to go to a few pages that were not Amazon Marketplace and they didn't have that crap follow down the page.

Last week it was there permanently on certain pages and intermittently on others.

After spending 3 hours I found a culprit and also does affect some of the manufacturer's images:
Culprit:

Code: [Select]

||m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61xJcNKKLXL.jsI'd prefer not seeing their other stuff than put up with that annoying thing appearing or following down the page completely unwanted and uncalled for.

Maybe I should complain to them and ask whether they set it or if they are not aware of it where it'd be part of a template.

It also seems influenced by size of window, so if it is small or zoomed out it appears, and on some listings appears on scroll down and disappears on scroll up.

I get pretty annoyed when decisions are made over my viewing area where it affects my concentration.

I have remember it appearing on scroll down on certain occasions and discovered it does so now:

Search



So it looks like Amazon have changed their minds or someone there is making out that their customers badly need this form of harassment to heckle them down the page in the form that'd it be helpful because it is always there and will generate them clicks and the usual garbage.

Time to get back on the phone and have a right go at them.

Just notice looking at the list of elements last night:

###nav-belt.nav-updated-pinned-config
###navbar.using-mouse.nav-progressive-attribute.hamburger.nav-packard-glow.layout3-alt.layout3.nav-flex.layout2.bold-focus-hover.nav-a11y-t1.nav-bluebeacon.celwidget.nav-sprite-v1
###navbar-main.nav-progressive-attribute.nav-rec.nav-ssl.nav-lang-en.nav-locale-gb.nav-flex.nav-opt-sprite

Hiding each even individual one of those and they cause the menu to disappear for good until reloading the page when the absolute positions of the header is set to fixed down the page.

Just phoned up the disability accessibility line which seems the only way to talk to a human these days. It seems they don't need proof but I comfortable with providing it as I do have one. The gentlemen was helpful (I was expecting arrogance this time), I explained the issue with the distraction and annoyance, he saw it appear on his screen on scroll. I told him about the the script that triggers with the elements and he passed it on their "I.T. team" and that they make changes and will look on reverting it on the 2nd or 5th December? but I don't expect that team to do anything. In fact I expect them to do the opposite make it worse in appearance and more difficult to make it disappear.

Saw a feedback request and suggested there be another rating on the outcome that reflects on Amazon as a whole and not just one person trying to help.

Looking back at the elements I some had descriptions after the question mark:

www.amazon.co.uk
3
get
script
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61xJcNKKLXL.js?AUIClients/AmazonUIjQuery

So the page loads fine initially, other stuff loads up and this piece of sh*t queries where the header is fixed or not and sets it to fixed.

Top part of the file I notice:

/*
 jQuery JavaScript Library v1.6.4
 http://jquery.com/

 Copyright 2011, John Resig
 Dual licensed under the MIT or GPL Version 2 licenses.
 http://jquery.org/license

 Includes Sizzle.js
 http://sizzlejs.com/
 Copyright 2011, The Dojo Foundation
 Released under the MIT, BSD, and GPL Licenses.

 Amazon elects to use jQuery and Sizzle under the MIT license.

 Date: Mon Sep 12 18:54:48 2011 -0400
 Sizzle CSS Selector Engine
  Copyright 2011, The Dojo Foundation
  Released under the MIT, BSD, and GPL Licenses.
  More information: http://sizzlejs.com/

Looks like it is fixing things. Attached as 61xJcNKKLXL.txt

c.offset.bodyOffset(b);c.offset.initialize();var d=b.offsetParent,e=b.ownerDocument,f=e.documentElement,g=e.body;var h=(e=e.defaultView)?e.getComputedStyle(b,null):b.currentStyle;for(var k=b.offsetTop,l=b.offsetLeft;(b=b.parentNode)&&
b!==g&&b!==f&&(!c.offset.supportsFixedPosition||"fixed"!==h.position);)h=e?e.getComputedStyle(b,null):b.currentStyle,k-=b.scrollTop,l-=b.scrollLeft,b===d&&(k+=b.offsetTop,l+=b.offsetLeft,!c.offset.doesNotAddBorder||c.offset.doesAddBorderForTableAndCells&&fc.test(b.nodeName)||(k+=parseFloat(h.borderTopWidth)||0,l+=parseFloat(h.borderLeftWidth)||0),d=b.offsetParent),c.offset.subtractsBorderForOverflowNotVisible&&"visible"!==h.overflow&&(k+=parseFloat(h.borderTopWidth)||0,l+=parseFloat(h.borderLeftWidth)||
0);if("relative"===h.position||"static"===h.position)k+=g.offsetTop,l+=g.offsetLeft;c.offset.supportsFixedPosition&&"fixed"===h.position&&(k+=Math.max(f.scrollTop,g.scrollTop),l+=Math.max(f.scrollLeft,g.scrollLeft));return{top:k,left:l}};c.offset={initialize:function(){var a=q.body,b=q.createElement("div"),d=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginTop"))||0;c.extend(b.style,{position:"absolute",top:0,left:0,margin:0,border:0,width:"1px",height:"1px",visibility:"hidden"});b.innerHTML="\x3cdiv style\x3d'position:absolute;top:0;left:0;margin:0;border:5px solid #000;padding:0;width:1px;height:1px;'\x3e\x3cdiv\x3e\x3c/div\x3e\x3c/div\x3e\x3ctable style\x3d'position:absolute;top:0;left:0;margin:0;border:5px solid #000;padding:0;width:1px;height:1px;' cellpadding\x3d'0' cellspacing\x3d'0'\x3e\x3ctr\x3e\x3ctd\x3e\x3c/td\x3e\x3c/tr\x3e\x3c/table\x3e";
a.insertBefore(b,a.firstChild);var e=b.firstChild;var f=e.firstChild;var g=e.nextSibling.firstChild.firstChild;this.doesNotAddBorder=5!==f.offsetTop;this.doesAddBorderForTableAndCells=5===g.offsetTop;f.style.position="fixed";f.style.top="20px";this.supportsFixedPosition=20===f.offsetTop||15===f.offsetTop;f.style.position=f.style.top="";e.style.overflow="hidden";e.style.position="relative";this.subtractsBorderForOverflowNotVisible=-5===f.offsetTop;this.doesNotIncludeMarginInBodyOffset=a.offsetTop!==
d;a.removeChild(b);c.offset.initialize=c.noop},bodyOffset:function(a){var b=a.offsetTop,d=a.offsetLeft;c.offset.initialize();c.offset.doesNotIncludeMarginInBodyOffset&&(b+=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginTop"))||0,d+=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginLeft"))||0);return{top:b,left:d}},setOffset:function(a,b,d){var e=c.css(a,"position");"static"===e&&(a.style.position="relative");var f=c(a),g=f.offset(),h=c.css(a,"top"),k=c.css(a,"left"),l={};("absolute"===e||"fixed"===e)&&-1<c.inArray("auto",[h,k])?(k=f.position(),

https://github.com/jquery/sizzle/wiki

Sizzle.selectors.pseudos.NAME = function( elem ) {}
The most common extension to a selector engine: adding a new pseudo. The return result from this function must be boolean: true if the element matches the selector, false if not.

For example, this defines a simple :fixed pseudo:

var $test = jQuery( document );
Sizzle.selectors.pseudos.fixed = function( elem ) {
    $test[ 0 ] = elem;
    return $test.css( "position" ) === "fixed";
};
Sizzle.selectors.createPseudo(function)

I believe they should add a setting if they are going to add all this stuff to check whether certain conditions are true or false.

[MrMobodies]

Absolutely P*SSED for this happen TWICE just now:
First click: A listing that has ended

Next click: Purchase history


As soon as I narrowed down the elements and trying them out the overlays seem to stop appearing and can't get them to appear again despite clearing the browser cache.

||www.ebay.co.uk/ifh/ifh-vendorde9c69e0f0c513734547.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c01/ac-112124222327.dweb.min.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c01/c54e60e1-996e-4a53-a314-f44a6b151b40.min.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/globalheader_widget_platform__v2-b70676194b.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/9527tracking/configuration.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/merch-T9z1DEz_.js
||secureir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/gh_show_ads.js
||www.ebay.co.uk/ifh/ifh072c18e0bfcee01984ac.jsb

So what I got to do is keep ublock open at all times.

Was going to see something on TV but I spent the time about an hour trying to find these elements and so annoyed now.

Why can't you not use the dimming overlays behind those dialogues, why can't it be on the sides of the page?
No, we have to interrupt you, hurt your eyes and cut you off from contents when we FEEL like it.

I spend years writing feedback against this, I phone ebay up on many occasions but it seems to be getting worse.

I want them to LEAVE my browsing screen area ALONE and not interfere like that.

Feedback:
Thumbs down

The respect you have with Shoving DIMMING OVERLAYS in your customer's faces


This isn't about the new purchase history, it is about the lack of respect you have for your users by shoving dimming overlay, that hide the scrollbar so pretty much all the screen goes dark and hurts my eyes. Twice this has happened just now. I had been trying to find the script to stop it reappearing. Which assh*le decided this was acceptable. It is SPAMMY BEHAVIOUR that malware creators use to inject in their advert code in the 2010 era and now you are doing it.

Sorry I am angry, I'd like to find the idiot there who ordered this, distract them then flash a bright torch in their eyes repeatedly and see how they like it. I was polite before for years, I phoned up and complained but this practice of ramming dimming overlays in your customers faces is becoming worse. Why not do the dialogue WITHOUT the dimming overlay or put them on the sides?

02/12/24
I have noticed this crap has creeped over from the listings into the search results.

Adblock:

ebay.co.uk##.s-item__watchheart-click

A zoom function would be more useful than accidentally clicking it as I did in the listings where I was accidentally kept on clicking that instead of the zoom.
There maybe hundreds of a variety so I don't understand the use of that.

Found one of the culprits:
https://ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/merch-T9z1DEz_.js

X_COUPON_OVERLAY_CLICK_EVENT:"ux-app__x-coupon__overlay_click_evt",X_COUPON_REFRESH:"ux-app__x-coupon__refreshState",X_COUPON_LAYER_REFRESH:"ux-app__x-coupon-layer__refreshState"

I wonder what is this one for:
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/9527tracking/configuration.js

window._automatic_tracking_config = {
    clickRoles: ['button', 'link', 'tab', 'menuitem', 'option', 'combobox', 'menuitemcheckbox', 'menuitemradio'],
    sessionReplay: true,
    srSampling: 0.02,
    sampledPages: {
        '2353552': 0.5,
        '2355842': 0.5,
        '2260255': 0.5,
        '2523511': 0.5,
        '2523510': 0.5
    },
    dynamicSelectors: '.x-btf-river .d-vi-region, .merch-module .merch-placements-container, [id^="placement"] .recs-module .merch-placements-container, .page-alerts, #placement_101912',
    dynamicSubtreeSelectors: {
        '[class*="x-rx-slot--"]': '.recs-placement-arrangement',
        '[class*="x-rx-slot-btf--"]': 'div[role="list"]',
        '.box-column.iframe-container': '.box-row.item-card-row'
    },
    clickRoles: ['button', 'link', 'tab', 'menuitem', 'option', 'combobox', 'menuitemcheckbox', 'menuitemradio'],
    dataClickPageIdWhiteList: ['4508568', '4507253', '2355842', '2353552', '2523510', '4492868', '4492867', '4492872', '4492870', '2566055', '2376473', '4536386', '2380676', '2374601', '4542154', '2380680', '4560505', '4517509', '4514735'],
    dataPageViewPageIdWhiteList: ['4508568', '4507253', '2355842', '2353552', '2523510', '4492868', '4492867', '4492872', '4492870', '2566055', '2376473', '2380676', '2374601', '4542154', '2380680', '4560505', '4517509', '4514735']

};

[MrMobodies]

I had to view Paypal to check if a payment had gone through or not for some batteries but just found it didn't. I  believe didn't click the confirmation after paying on the Paypal portal. The 2 factor thing is chaos as well in this poor signal area. Sign in, 2 factor, have to move the phone and go upstairs to get a signal, then as soon as the payment methods appear, 2 factor again and NO SIGNAL this time no matter what I do. Later on I get the 2 factor authentication.

When I saw these appearing again (of course they'd be under different element names from last time) and so many everywhere and the whole thing just slow down on every link I click my anger levels increase. They think am I am stupid and need all these moddle coddly things at the expense of irritating me by seeing what looks like hallucinations in my peripheral vision and slowness via CPU hogging.





Unfortunately unable to find the element for this one despite clearing elements in the names of animations, shimmer, skeletons and placeholders.


Adblock:

paypal.com##.search_filter_shimmer_container
paypal.com##.css-6jc1w7-shimmer_base-default
paypal.com###initialAsyncLoader
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer___1-4-6
paypal.com##.ppvx_text--shimmer___5-8-0
paypal.compaypal.com##.cw_notifications-loading
paypal.com###loader-box
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_sm
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_md
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_lg
paypal.com##.css-1ptd6ti
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer__animation___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level1___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level2___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level2--above___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level3___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level4___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level5___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx--v1___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx--v2___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_motion__animation-timing___1-5-4
paypal.com##.skeleton-currency-asset-item
paypal.com##.skeleton-circle
paypal.com##.spinner_center
paypal.com##.test_cryptolanding-spinner
paypal.com##.css-1vcpevq-loading-spinner_base-size_xl
paypal.com##.css-1vcpevq-loading-spinner_base-size_md
paypal.com##.css-1vcpevq-loading-spinner_base-size_sm
paypal.com##.n6mi11-loading-spinner_base-size_xl
paypal.com##.animation-11tfg15
paypal.com##.css-1tnx4bs

Showing just the static placeholder lines instead of those horrid things and seems to work really nice now and quicker page load despite that animated one I couldn't find the name for which sometimes shows on the messages.

It seems to me they design a website with the intent of making it usable and then sh*t all over it with this stuff above.

Just noticed this stupid dimming overlay on the home page that flashes the screen rapidly as I move the mouse over the menu's:

###dw-overlay-menu-open
##._dw-overlay-menu-open_18pa1_1451

Seems they don't think of people with live sensitivity or epilepsy. Not sure if it could cause an epilepsic fit but with how excessive these things seem to get with the animations and sudden flashing (sudden dimming then back to light) it woudn't surprise me.

[Analog Kid]

Hey, "MrMobodies", let me ask you something if you don't mind:
Since your annoyance threshold level for things computer-related seems to be set super-low, let me ask you about something about this very web site that I find annoying too, though not annoying enough to actually do anything about it.
I'm referring to the line of links near the top of the page: Home   Help   Search   Profile   About us ... etc., etc.

Now I'm always finding those getting in the way as I cursor around the page, since if you hit any of those links you get an unasked-for pop-down menu, even without clicking on any of them. Like Profile, which for some stupid reason I'm always running into: the menu pops down with

o Summary
o Account Settings
o Forum Profile
o Mentions

so I have to swerve my mouse pointer around it to make the damn thing go away.

BTW, this is nothing that Dave has control over: this behavior is baked into the Simple Machines code. I'm on another forum that uses the same "engine" and it does the same thing.

Not the way I would have designed things. But then they never asked me.

[MrMobodies]

I see what you mean

Yes I notice that sometimes as I hover the mouse over them where the menu's swing out but manage to avoid clicking anything on them to cause irritation as I just click elsewhere in area where I know it'd collapse the open menu.

[PlainName]

I just click elsewhere in area where I know it'd collapse the open menu

In my browser moving the mouse over the button opens the menu, but when the mouse leaves the menu area it collapses. No need to click anything. Running Waterfox G5.

[Analog Kid]

Well, same here (Opera here), and I suspect the same with him too; you just move the mouse and the menu disappears.
Still annoying, though, as it's another obstacle to navigation.

[MrMobodies]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9dx5d1g5lo
Nothing in there in thumbnail about needing to subscribe or sign in to read the article or I wouldn't have clicked it.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zv670m7no

You need to sign in to read InDepth Articles 

*We're asking you to sign in so that we can
understand more about the types of
content our audience like.

Sign in/Register
* Go to the News homepage instead.

UTTER BULLSHIT and CLICKBAIT TROLLING.
No, I don't need to do anything, the the article is RIGHT THERE behind it.
What do they think I am, stupid?.
*Sounds to me like arrogant, insulting and condescending. "We want to know when you read this article and SPY on you or we won't let you read it."
Joke: Advanced thinkers for mass majority! Mass majority = stupid and confused, don't know what they're doing and we're superior and so much better than them. To read this article you need to crawl over here on your knees and kiss our arse to view our content.

The reasons they provide sound piss poor to me.
What's wrong in adding a feedback dialogue instead?

That should NOT be used as an excuse to advertise articles and once clicked on deny and force the public to create and account to sign in in order read it and in this case appear to be done last minute see below where article was pulled from other sites. If they want to create subscription/authwall content it should be clearly labelled up especially coming from the BBC.

Not acceptable.
They may loose audiences if they keep doing this.

I shouldn't need to do anything. The BBC is paid for by the license fee in the UK.
I shouldn't need to create an account and sign in just to read the article that was displayed like this in the results.

Not when I can do this:


There were scripts that forced the scrollbars to the top. Everytime I moved it it'd do it once and move back, moved lower with more force and it'd move lower until next time, it'll move back to top until unable to move. That's what I call scroll jacking and bullying.

I don't know which one of these scripts is responsible and have to look into them but then I turn of just one of them the scrolljacking goes away and the scrollbars are left alone.
Culprits to Adblock:

bbc.co.uk##.ssrcss-15tkd6i-ArticleWrapper.e1nh2i2l3
bbc.co.uk##.test-overlay
bbc.co.uk##.ssrcss-11e7cen-Overlay.eugnsri9
||mybbc-analytics.files.bbci.co.uk/reverb-client-js/smarttag-5.29.4.min.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-consent-banner.3cbccd99e40a6f206eca.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-component-consent-banner.8fa94b8b6303fd6467e1.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-sign-in-prompt.8dd67137a81e6c523aa2.js
||public.flourish.studio/resources/v3/embedded.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-global-footer.ba96e35959b041eccd5f.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-footer-promos.7e13937681b797f22bc1.js
||static.files.bbci.co.uk/core/bundle-service-bar.09e06361650927e68e65.js
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The BBC using and ABUSING javascript to carry out their campaign to manipulate and coerce users into signing up and read something that was there before and still there but covered over by a horrid dimming overlay that can be uncomfortable to the eyes.


Notice they are using GETTY images. I don't remember them using generic images before apart from smaller poor quality news websites. For an organization this size, over 100 years ago, full of equipment, staff and video editors, an organization that once owned a very large building called "The BBC Television center" and I find this SLOPPY, LAZY and poor quality editoral to me. Why couldn't they use a picture from one of their archive recordings in hospitals or better yet not chose to add that in the first place in to save article space. I don't NEED to see a generic picture of a hospital walkaway unless it was relevant which reminds me of what some poor quality news websites use to do many years ago.

Just noticed:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=bbc+nhs+assisted+dying&ia=web&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-us%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fthe-nhs-is-spending-a-fortune-giving-people-a-death-they-dont-want%2Far-AA1AkW1Q

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-nhs-is-spending-a-fortune-giving-people-a-death-they-dont-want/ar-AA1AkW1Q

So the BBC manage to pull down their articles last minute on other sites and then put up an authwall on their article.

Sarcasm: I think some genius who thought that they had a very high iq level and exceptional talent naturally and purely born with at the time of birth entitled to, believing they were better than everyone else had this last minute brainstorm and thought they can deliver their "natural" "talent" and how brilliant they are in collecting statistics by forcing people to sign in on content projected to be of most interest. So they spread their message through to the audience reading the article about how stupid and confused they are after they do a whole load of things like create and account and sign in.... the arrogance.

Once again very disappointed in the BBC. If they are going to do this I am going to have to add BBC to my search exclusion. I have lost confidence in them on so many other things including the weather forecast last year, the BBC news and the larger banners that can expand and go up to someone's shoulders and the gradients acting as a border but cover the entire bottom.

Last year, rushed weather forecasts (couldn't understand what this lady was saying) and last Christmas I waited half an hour for something they highlighted (something to do with Trump I think and some foreign policy conflict) but never showed it as they had 3 different reporters reporting the same news in series about a murder at a supermarket Magdeburg, Germany, like they were possessed in reading the same script that took the whole duration and that was it and I wondered how LOWER can the BBC go? and here we are with the clickbait trolling on articles they randomly pull last minute.

It doesn't sound sincere to me like what it use to in access to reading their articles and I don't think they have any respect for the public when they do things like this.

Dear BBC I am there to read your content and that is the article.
I don't go there to create and account and sign in, to look at stock photos, stock photos of irrelevant things or be mislead into anything else and that's when I loose respect and interest. You want to know what "content your audiences" like, simply run a survey on the page.

Noticed earlier there was a form and an email address too but covered up by that dimming overlay and clickbait and scrolljacking scripts acting as an Authwall.

BBC InDepth *is the home on the website and app for the best **analysis, with fresh perspectives that *challenge assumptions and *deep reporting on the biggest issues of the day. And we ****showcase thought-provoking content from across BBC Sounds and iPlayer too. *****You can send us your feedback on the InDepth section by clicking on the button below.

"GET IN TOUCH"
InDpeth is the home of the best analysis from across the BBC news. Tell us what you think?
Contact form

What a farce behind the dimming overlay

*Arrogance... "Our editors on BBC INDEPTH are SO IMPORTANT and BETTER than you audience, when you go to BBC.co.uk, think that that homepage is actually us. That's how good we are."

** More interested in analyzing personal details of those looking to see the articles.

*** "Challenge and ASSUME" users WILL sign up to this 'create an account' and 'sign in' nonsense.

**** They did manage to "showcase" "thought-provoking" "content", the horrid dark eye hurting overlay, the patronizing, insulating and arrogant dialogue, denying me access to the article that IS ALREADY THERE BEHIND IT and was previously there and released on other news sites before they decided last minute to have them pulled down and restrict access to it.

***** YOU CAN'T SEND FEEDBACK when it is behind an article they decided to last minute put behind an authwall where you have to remove the overlays and disable the script. Defeating the whole purpose of what it is there for.... "This is a BBC INDEPTH article, you MUST sign in".

Talking about "thought-provking content" and "the biggest issues" and they use lousy stock photos of hospital walkways to make the article bigger than it needs to be

It's NOT the home of "best analysis". Not when you can't read it and I expect "the best analysis" with the BBC news itself, not for it to be separated by a different department within the BBC where content is restricted by a bunch of arrogant staff working there who do unprofessional things things like the sloppy editing skills with, the stock photos, restricting articles last minute, the language they use, "We're asking you... to sign in..."  or go back to home page" when they are actually coercing you to sign up to see the articles. Obviously they think their viewers are stupid, asking them to do something but coercing them.


How can you haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk when it is hidden behind that pathetic authwall of theirs?

No excuse for the BBC to do this. They are paid by the TV License fee to broadcast things. I could understand if they want to restrict certain content to Britain only by restricting IP range by country where'd they make allowances if they got it wrong.

If they are going to do stuff like this maybe they don't deserve funding from the TV Licensing fee

Further thoughts:
1. I thought they are PAID BY the tax payers who pay for the TV Licensing Fee to CREATE, PRODUCE and broadcast CONTENT, not IDEOLOGY on WHO can view their content talking of the "impartial" rules they even have their for their own staff.

2. What about the very elderly and disabled (in this country who pay their license fee) and might find this difficult and unnecessary now isn't that like discrimination if it stops them from viewing their articles and it shouldn't take the effort of contacting them for help over something like this just to read it. It goes to show the RESPECT they have for them.

3. They are advertising the use of their "app for the best analysis." You think I want to use their stupid "app" if they are going to do stuff like this by slapping an eye hurting dimming overlay in front with a dialogue that coerces the user to do things ahead of the contents when with a browser I could put stop that nonsense and see past it.

What do you think?

[MrMobodies]

Just noticed Trustpilot had withdrawn their fixed headers.

Very pleased about this for a change.

Isn't that nice and they put the keyword filters on the page without a dialogue that dims large parts of the screen.
Not a fan of the way the reviewes are not in a list but side by side but I find that's a lot better and prefer this than the spammy toolbar that follows down the page in the way of the contents and the dimming overlays on the filter dialogue.


Kind of simplified but not over simplified. Nice and clear too.
The only thing fixed is the the star rating filter widget which is far away on the right away from the contents and does not get in the way.

I did find a bar ontop that appears on scroll down that gets hidden by the extension but does not affect functionality and doesn't make the page jumpy when trying to scroll away from it like the previous design.

Talking of MyLife.com I tried to contact many of their affiliates in 2018 , when they had my name on there with a criminal record and other information that match (but I do not have a criminal record so slander) where they wanted to charge me to become a member to remove it which I refused under principle and all to find out they never had permission in the first to use affiliate logos in the first place such as "As seen on the BBC" and CNET (CNET who wrote an article in 2011 warning to not trust MyLife.), etc.

It seems it is still there despite being sued so many times.


Just noticed a few dimming overlays such as expanding the larger comments but much much less places where the dimming effect happens than the previous design.

Well done and thank you very much Trustpilot.