Poll

What irritates you the most?

Sticky/Fixed: Headers/Nav Toolbars and Widgets especially large (Intrusion & harassment by remaining stuck over contents, unclosable, follows down page on scroll, in the way/restricting browsing area & very annoying & distracting)
4 (4.5%)
Dimming overlays (Eye hurter due to sudden darker background change & obscures & cut user off rest of contents)
1 (1.1%)
Excessive fake loading spinners/animations
1 (1.1%)
Animated skeleton placeholders & shimmers (FLASHING & CPU HOGGER/slows page load via gradient cycling) & some even setting false illusions of eye floaters.
1 (1.1%)
Chat bots
7 (8%)
Autoplay sound and video
10 (11.4%)
Gradients over video, pictures and thumbnails (Obscures and can set false illusions of shadows and clouds)
0 (0%)
Flash/fade/dimming transition elements on page load
0 (0%)
ALL OF THE ABOVE and BELOW (except the last two options)
28 (31.8%)
Page view manipulation: Content jumping/page shift/shrink or expand.
4 (4.5%)
Interference such as Scrolljacking and Clickjacking
3 (3.4%)
Website set to hide contents based on useragent or other
1 (1.1%)
Websites set to discriminate based on country
0 (0%)
Cookie notices
8 (9.1%)
Aggressive advertising: dialogues or same ad stuck on either sides flashing & targeting across platforms
8 (9.1%)
Excessive white spaces
1 (1.1%)
Inappropriately/oversized text or graphics: large & small by relation or ratio
1 (1.1%)
Auto action & mouse hover: Popouts, overlays & expanding, zooming out thumbnail, audio, video autoplay, preview
0 (0%)
Suggestions, predictive texting and history in or under search & text input box
1 (1.1%)
Clickbait trolling: Paywall, authwall, signup (excluding article view limit)
5 (5.7%)
Flash/fade/moving(appearing and disappearing) popout widgets/sliders: xx people viewed this item
1 (1.1%)
Infinite scrolling
3 (3.4%)
Not sure
0 (0%)
Prefer not to say
0 (0%)

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #250 on: May 13, 2024, 05:32:56 pm »
Gotta be my browser, then (Waterfox). Doubt if it's the Google analytics blocker :)
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #251 on: May 14, 2024, 07:58:16 am »
There is a lot of other things to complain about this page though :D
Come on, an animated "accept all cookies" button?  :-DD
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design Massive big SPAMMY toolbar
« Reply #252 on: August 23, 2024, 09:03:18 pm »
Massive big spammy toolbar on this website all of a sudden hiding on the slightest scroll so I turned the headerhiderfixer off to see how it would look:






I noticed on archive.org there was a point where the huge header wasn't fixed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200418063338/https://community.autism.org.uk/


I believe some overzealous person thought, oh because it is deemed so helpful to navigation where they can get to the buttons easily and quickly navigate, we'll stick on everywhere and everything except they didn't think of those it works against by the distraction and bloat by the room that one takes up over the contents.

I wouldn't mind if there was a fixed widget on sides at the top to show hide the thing when I want it or don't want t but at that size I'd have to scroll more but the distraction itself is where I'd choose to hide it.

As typical no regard for user preference for those who don't want it stuck there constantly.

Don't you think that is massive?
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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #253 on: August 23, 2024, 09:16:45 pm »
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I believe some overzealous person thought, oh because it is deemed so helpful to navigation where they can get to the buttons easily and quickly navigate

Possibly designed for phones (who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?). With those, there needs to be some way of popping up the toolbar when all the furniture is hidden to allow max space for the web page. Usually that's on a down scroll only, though...
 
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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #254 on: August 23, 2024, 09:37:10 pm »
Possibly designed for phones
Yes but that's being going on since 2015.

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(who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?
I do. I REFUSE to use a mobile or tablet to browse and as well as no tactile keyboard I'd loose me temper over the following:
Hardly any browser control to find and hide spammy things that annoy me like, suggestions, loading animations/eye hurting dimming overlay, transitional things that flash the page, excessive use of spinners, gradients that obscure the pictures and set false illusions of clouds and shadows, animated skeleton loading placeholders flash annoy and slow the whole thing down.

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With those, there needs to be some way of popping up the toolbar when all the furniture is hidden to allow max space for the web page  :-+. Usually that's on a down scroll only, though...
That'd be great if they could start doing that where it could work for both and give the user a choice over the room of screen area. Something I'd expect in this day and age instead of ramming in yer face.
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #255 on: August 23, 2024, 10:44:10 pm »
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who uses a computer thingy nowadays?!?

Just in case it wasn't clear, I was trying to be ironic there :)
 
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Re: Bad/bloated web design VERY.co.uk STUPID cpu hogging animated placeholders
« Reply #256 on: September 02, 2024, 08:03:38 pm »
After watching Louise Rossman talk about a vacuum made by Hoover. and complaining about the warranty I thought I'd go and see if they still put the Queens logo on them "By appointment of Queen" etc.

I don't see any when I looked at one on Very.co.uk but the page took like 8 seconds to load with all this animated crap.

https://www.very.co.uk/hoover-h-energy-300-pets-bagged-cylinder-vacuum-cleaner/1600809924.prd

36% CPU time

24% CPU time

3% CPU time with all that stupid crap gone.


Page now loads instantly or a few seconds with the content further below in place of those things instead of those things flashing everywhere, hogging up the CPU via that gradient cycling thing causing the whole thing to slow down on every page load.

Stupid stupid stupid stupid!
When I see these things they just make me go absolutely mad.
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very.co.uk##.tvg-overlay-enter-done
very.co.uk##[data-testid="product-card-skeleton"]
very.co.uk##[data-testid="fuse-skeleton-test-id"]
very.co.uk##[data-testid="verypay-skeleton-card"]
##.tvg-overlay-enter-done
##[data-testid="product-card-skeleton"]
##[data-testid="fuse-skeleton-test-id"]
##[data-testid="verypay-skeleton-card"]
Maybe I should make some more wildcard variants of the element names above on my blocklist so by chance I won't see them on other websites.
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Re: Bad/bloated web design Ebay done good with not too distracting help icon
« Reply #257 on: September 03, 2024, 02:23:32 am »
Just noticed this fixed little question mark on Ebay which opens this dialogue


Other than animated light overlay it seems nice and simple with no dimming overlays around it or resource wasting decorations/animated skeleton placeholers.


Dialogue can be dragged and is made translucent on moving it.

They seem to have managed to make something fixed, for a change that is simple, out of the way, not too distracting without bloating it with too many animations and annoying stuff.

Thank you very much ebay.
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design IMDB page slowing animated skeleton placeholders
« Reply #258 on: October 23, 2024, 04:41:50 am »
Just noticed IMDB going really slow recent then I noticed this CPU resource wasting crap making it's way on IMDB before the page finishes loading.


Over 30% CPU time wasted on that stupidity after every page load.

There don't see to be many of these maybe 2 or 4 squares that flash but the page seems to load much more quickly now without stalling or those things flashing away as I scroll. There are still static placeholders and some thumbnails or pictures appear later without it stalling.
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##.ipc-skeleton.ipc-skeleton--rectangle.ipc-skeleton--base.ipc-skeleton--pulse
##.ipc-skeleton.ipc-skeleton--rectangle.ipc-skeleton--base.ipc-skeleton--pulse
imbb.com##.sc-czgmHJ.kHVbLh
##.ipc-loader.ipc-loader--dot.discoveryfeature--loader
##.ipc-loader__container
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--one
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--two
##.ipc-loader__dot.ipc-loader__dot--three
##.discoveryfeature--loader
##.ipc-skeleton--pulse
##.ipc-skeleton--base
##.ipc-skeleton--rectangle
##.ipc-loader
##.inline-video-start-loader
##.ipc-loader ipc-loader--dot
imdb.com##.sc-b6f25f39-0.elKCjC
##.ipc-chip--on-base.ipc-scroll-to-top-button
##.feature-name-news__loader
##.right-rail-more-to-explore
imdb.com##.ipc-page-section.ipc-page-section--none.recently-viewed-items
Remove some other crap like the fixed widget that scrolls to top, unwanted fixed widgets on the side and recently viewed items that I don't want to see just because I saw it once.

I am starting to HATE that word "LOADER" when used in this way.
It doesn't load any content but those stupid things.

It does not need a "loader" unless the person who put it there is trying to make out that they themselves are very important for designing something that sounds very important for some decorations that hog up CPU time and slow it down everything during the page load for things that are not needed but more of a nuisance.
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Re: Bad/bloated web design Amazon spammy sticky/fixed header 2 again
« Reply #259 on: November 28, 2024, 03:26:56 am »
I was getting pretty annoyed by this appearing again but found the culprit:


I complained to Amazon a couple of weeks ago to be told that it was the private marketplace sellers doing it  and are now free to customize the page how they see including altering stuff that has nothing to do with them and I believed the gentleman because he told me to go to a few pages that were not Amazon Marketplace and they didn't have that crap follow down the page.

Last week it was there permanently on certain pages and intermittently on others.

After spending 3 hours I found a culprit and also does affect some of the manufacturer's images:
Culprit:
Code: [Select]
||m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61xJcNKKLXL.js
I'd prefer not seeing their other stuff than put up with that annoying thing appearing or following down the page completely unwanted and uncalled for.

Maybe I should complain to them and ask whether they set it or if they are not aware of it where it'd be part of a template.

It also seems influenced by size of window, so if it is small or zoomed out it appears, and on some listings appears on scroll down and disappears on scroll up.

I get pretty annoyed when decisions are made over my viewing area where it affects my concentration.

I have remember it appearing on scroll down on certain occasions and discovered it does so now:

Search



So it looks like Amazon have changed their minds or someone there is making out that their customers badly need this form of harassment to heckle them down the page in the form that'd it be helpful because it is always there and will generate them clicks and the usual garbage.

Time to get back on the phone and have a right go at them.

Just notice looking at the list of elements last night:
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###nav-belt.nav-updated-pinned-config
###navbar.using-mouse.nav-progressive-attribute.hamburger.nav-packard-glow.layout3-alt.layout3.nav-flex.layout2.bold-focus-hover.nav-a11y-t1.nav-bluebeacon.celwidget.nav-sprite-v1
###navbar-main.nav-progressive-attribute.nav-rec.nav-ssl.nav-lang-en.nav-locale-gb.nav-flex.nav-opt-sprite
Hiding each even individual one of those and they cause the menu to disappear for good until reloading the page when the absolute positions of the header is set to fixed down the page.

Just phoned up the disability accessibility line which seems the only way to talk to a human these days. It seems they don't need proof but I comfortable with providing it as I do have one. The gentlemen was helpful (I was expecting arrogance this time), I explained the issue with the distraction and annoyance, he saw it appear on his screen on scroll. I told him about the the script that triggers with the elements and he passed it on their "I.T. team" and that they make changes and will look on reverting it on the 2nd or 5th December? but I don't expect that team to do anything. In fact I expect them to do the opposite make it worse in appearance and more difficult to make it disappear.

Saw a feedback request and suggested there be another rating on the outcome that reflects on Amazon as a whole and not just one person trying to help.

Looking back at the elements I some had descriptions after the question mark:

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www.amazon.co.uk
3
get
script
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61xJcNKKLXL.js?AUIClients/AmazonUIjQuery
So the page loads fine initially, other stuff loads up and this piece of sh*t queries where the header is fixed or not and sets it to fixed.

Top part of the file I notice:
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/*
 jQuery JavaScript Library v1.6.4
 http://jquery.com/

 Copyright 2011, John Resig
 Dual licensed under the MIT or GPL Version 2 licenses.
 http://jquery.org/license

 Includes Sizzle.js
 http://sizzlejs.com/
 Copyright 2011, The Dojo Foundation
 Released under the MIT, BSD, and GPL Licenses.

 Amazon elects to use jQuery and Sizzle under the MIT license.

 Date: Mon Sep 12 18:54:48 2011 -0400
 Sizzle CSS Selector Engine
  Copyright 2011, The Dojo Foundation
  Released under the MIT, BSD, and GPL Licenses.
  More information: http://sizzlejs.com/

Looks like it is fixing things. Attached as 61xJcNKKLXL.txt
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c.offset.bodyOffset(b);c.offset.initialize();var d=b.offsetParent,e=b.ownerDocument,f=e.documentElement,g=e.body;var h=(e=e.defaultView)?e.getComputedStyle(b,null):b.currentStyle;for(var k=b.offsetTop,l=b.offsetLeft;(b=b.parentNode)&&
b!==g&&b!==f&&(!c.offset.supportsFixedPosition||"fixed"!==h.position);)h=e?e.getComputedStyle(b,null):b.currentStyle,k-=b.scrollTop,l-=b.scrollLeft,b===d&&(k+=b.offsetTop,l+=b.offsetLeft,!c.offset.doesNotAddBorder||c.offset.doesAddBorderForTableAndCells&&fc.test(b.nodeName)||(k+=parseFloat(h.borderTopWidth)||0,l+=parseFloat(h.borderLeftWidth)||0),d=b.offsetParent),c.offset.subtractsBorderForOverflowNotVisible&&"visible"!==h.overflow&&(k+=parseFloat(h.borderTopWidth)||0,l+=parseFloat(h.borderLeftWidth)||
0);if("relative"===h.position||"static"===h.position)k+=g.offsetTop,l+=g.offsetLeft;c.offset.supportsFixedPosition&&"fixed"===h.position&&(k+=Math.max(f.scrollTop,g.scrollTop),l+=Math.max(f.scrollLeft,g.scrollLeft));return{top:k,left:l}};c.offset={initialize:function(){var a=q.body,b=q.createElement("div"),d=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginTop"))||0;c.extend(b.style,{position:"absolute",top:0,left:0,margin:0,border:0,width:"1px",height:"1px",visibility:"hidden"});b.innerHTML="\x3cdiv style\x3d'position:absolute;top:0;left:0;margin:0;border:5px solid #000;padding:0;width:1px;height:1px;'\x3e\x3cdiv\x3e\x3c/div\x3e\x3c/div\x3e\x3ctable style\x3d'position:absolute;top:0;left:0;margin:0;border:5px solid #000;padding:0;width:1px;height:1px;' cellpadding\x3d'0' cellspacing\x3d'0'\x3e\x3ctr\x3e\x3ctd\x3e\x3c/td\x3e\x3c/tr\x3e\x3c/table\x3e";
a.insertBefore(b,a.firstChild);var e=b.firstChild;var f=e.firstChild;var g=e.nextSibling.firstChild.firstChild;this.doesNotAddBorder=5!==f.offsetTop;this.doesAddBorderForTableAndCells=5===g.offsetTop;f.style.position="fixed";f.style.top="20px";this.supportsFixedPosition=20===f.offsetTop||15===f.offsetTop;f.style.position=f.style.top="";e.style.overflow="hidden";e.style.position="relative";this.subtractsBorderForOverflowNotVisible=-5===f.offsetTop;this.doesNotIncludeMarginInBodyOffset=a.offsetTop!==
d;a.removeChild(b);c.offset.initialize=c.noop},bodyOffset:function(a){var b=a.offsetTop,d=a.offsetLeft;c.offset.initialize();c.offset.doesNotIncludeMarginInBodyOffset&&(b+=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginTop"))||0,d+=parseFloat(c.css(a,"marginLeft"))||0);return{top:b,left:d}},setOffset:function(a,b,d){var e=c.css(a,"position");"static"===e&&(a.style.position="relative");var f=c(a),g=f.offset(),h=c.css(a,"top"),k=c.css(a,"left"),l={};("absolute"===e||"fixed"===e)&&-1<c.inArray("auto",[h,k])?(k=f.position(),


https://github.com/jquery/sizzle/wiki
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Sizzle.selectors.pseudos.NAME = function( elem ) {}
The most common extension to a selector engine: adding a new pseudo. The return result from this function must be boolean: true if the element matches the selector, false if not.

For example, this defines a simple :fixed pseudo:

var $test = jQuery( document );
Sizzle.selectors.pseudos.fixed = function( elem ) {
    $test[ 0 ] = elem;
    return $test.css( "position" ) === "fixed";
};
Sizzle.selectors.createPseudo(function)

I believe they should add a setting if they are going to add all this stuff to check whether certain conditions are true or false.
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Re: Bad/bloated web design Ebay Dimming overlay harassment 4 no respect for user
« Reply #260 on: December 02, 2024, 05:04:31 am »
Absolutely P*SSED for this happen TWICE just now:
First click: A listing that has ended

Next click: Purchase history


As soon as I narrowed down the elements and trying them out the overlays seem to stop appearing and can't get them to appear again despite clearing the browser cache.
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||www.ebay.co.uk/ifh/ifh-vendorde9c69e0f0c513734547.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c01/ac-112124222327.dweb.min.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c01/c54e60e1-996e-4a53-a314-f44a6b151b40.min.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/globalheader_widget_platform__v2-b70676194b.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/9527tracking/configuration.js
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/merch-T9z1DEz_.js
||secureir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/gh_show_ads.js
||www.ebay.co.uk/ifh/ifh072c18e0bfcee01984ac.jsb
So what I got to do is keep ublock open at all times.

Was going to see something on TV but I spent the time about an hour trying to find these elements and so annoyed now.

Why can't you not use the dimming overlays behind those dialogues, why can't it be on the sides of the page?
No, we have to interrupt you, hurt your eyes and cut you off from contents when we FEEL like it.

I spend years writing feedback against this, I phone ebay up on many occasions but it seems to be getting worse.

I want them to LEAVE my browsing screen area ALONE and not interfere like that.

Feedback:
Thumbs down
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The respect you have with Shoving DIMMING OVERLAYS in your customer's faces


This isn't about the new purchase history, it is about the lack of respect you have for your users by shoving dimming overlay, that hide the scrollbar so pretty much all the screen goes dark and hurts my eyes. Twice this has happened just now. I had been trying to find the script to stop it reappearing. Which assh*le decided this was acceptable. It is SPAMMY BEHAVIOUR that malware creators use to inject in their advert code in the 2010 era and now you are doing it.

Sorry I am angry, I'd like to find the idiot there who ordered this, distract them then flash a bright torch in their eyes repeatedly and see how they like it. I was polite before for years, I phoned up and complained but this practice of ramming dimming overlays in your customers faces is becoming worse. Why not do the dialogue WITHOUT the dimming overlay or put them on the sides?

02/12/24
I have noticed this crap has creeped over from the listings into the search results.

Adblock:
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ebay.co.uk##.s-item__watchheart-click
A zoom function would be more useful than accidentally clicking it as I did in the listings where I was accidentally kept on clicking that instead of the zoom.
There maybe hundreds of a variety so I don't understand the use of that.

Found one of the culprits:
https://ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/merch-T9z1DEz_.js
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X_COUPON_OVERLAY_CLICK_EVENT:"ux-app__x-coupon__overlay_click_evt",X_COUPON_REFRESH:"ux-app__x-coupon__refreshState",X_COUPON_LAYER_REFRESH:"ux-app__x-coupon-layer__refreshState"

I wonder what is this one for:
||ir.ebaystatic.com/rs/c/9527tracking/configuration.js
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window._automatic_tracking_config = {
    clickRoles: ['button', 'link', 'tab', 'menuitem', 'option', 'combobox', 'menuitemcheckbox', 'menuitemradio'],
    sessionReplay: true,
    srSampling: 0.02,
    sampledPages: {
        '2353552': 0.5,
        '2355842': 0.5,
        '2260255': 0.5,
        '2523511': 0.5,
        '2523510': 0.5
    },
    dynamicSelectors: '.x-btf-river .d-vi-region, .merch-module .merch-placements-container, [id^="placement"] .recs-module .merch-placements-container, .page-alerts, #placement_101912',
    dynamicSubtreeSelectors: {
        '[class*="x-rx-slot--"]': '.recs-placement-arrangement',
        '[class*="x-rx-slot-btf--"]': 'div[role="list"]',
        '.box-column.iframe-container': '.box-row.item-card-row'
    },
    clickRoles: ['button', 'link', 'tab', 'menuitem', 'option', 'combobox', 'menuitemcheckbox', 'menuitemradio'],
    dataClickPageIdWhiteList: ['4508568', '4507253', '2355842', '2353552', '2523510', '4492868', '4492867', '4492872', '4492870', '2566055', '2376473', '4536386', '2380676', '2374601', '4542154', '2380680', '4560505', '4517509', '4514735'],
    dataPageViewPageIdWhiteList: ['4508568', '4507253', '2355842', '2353552', '2523510', '4492868', '4492867', '4492872', '4492870', '2566055', '2376473', '2380676', '2374601', '4542154', '2380680', '4560505', '4517509', '4514735']

};
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Re: Bad/bloated web design Paypal animated skeletons/shimmer bloat cleanup 2
« Reply #261 on: December 02, 2024, 06:11:21 pm »
I had to view Paypal to check if a payment had gone through or not for some batteries but just found it didn't. I  believe didn't click the confirmation after paying on the Paypal portal. The 2 factor thing is chaos as well in this poor signal area. Sign in, 2 factor, have to move the phone and go upstairs to get a signal, then as soon as the payment methods appear, 2 factor again and NO SIGNAL this time no matter what I do. Later on I get the 2 factor authentication.

When I saw these appearing again (of course they'd be under different element names from last time) and so many everywhere and the whole thing just slow down on every link I click my anger levels increase. They think am I am stupid and need all these moddle coddly things at the expense of irritating me by seeing what looks like hallucinations in my peripheral vision and slowness via CPU hogging.





Unfortunately unable to find the element for this one despite clearing elements in the names of animations, shimmer, skeletons and placeholders.


Adblock:
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paypal.com##.search_filter_shimmer_container
paypal.com##.css-6jc1w7-shimmer_base-default
paypal.com###initialAsyncLoader
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer___1-4-6
paypal.com##.ppvx_text--shimmer___5-8-0
paypal.compaypal.com##.cw_notifications-loading
paypal.com###loader-box
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_sm
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_md
paypal.com##.css-1psuhaf-loading-spinner_base-size_lg
paypal.com##.css-1ptd6ti
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_shimmer__animation___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level1___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level2___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level2--above___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level3___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level4___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_elevation--level5___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx--v1___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx--v2___1-5-4
paypal.com##.ppvx_motion__animation-timing___1-5-4
paypal.com##.skeleton-currency-asset-item
paypal.com##.skeleton-circle
paypal.com##.spinner_center
paypal.com##.test_cryptolanding-spinner
paypal.com##.css-1vcpevq-loading-spinner_base-size_xl
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Showing just the static placeholder lines instead of those horrid things and seems to work really nice now and quicker page load despite that animated one I couldn't find the name for which sometimes shows on the messages.

It seems to me they design a website with the intent of making it usable and then sh*t all over it with this stuff above.

Just noticed this stupid dimming overlay on the home page that flashes the screen rapidly as I move the mouse over the menu's:

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Seems they don't think of people with live sensitivity or epilepsy. Not sure if it could cause an epilepsic fit but with how excessive these things seem to get with the animations and sudden flashing (sudden dimming then back to light) it woudn't surprise me.
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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #262 on: December 20, 2024, 10:17:25 pm »
Hey, "MrMobodies", let me ask you something if you don't mind:
Since your annoyance threshold level for things computer-related seems to be set super-low, let me ask you about something about this very web site that I find annoying too, though not annoying enough to actually do anything about it.
I'm referring to the line of links near the top of the page: Home   Help   Search   Profile   About us ... etc., etc.

Now I'm always finding those getting in the way as I cursor around the page, since if you hit any of those links you get an unasked-for pop-down menu, even without clicking on any of them. Like Profile, which for some stupid reason I'm always running into: the menu pops down with

o Summary
o Account Settings
o Forum Profile
o Mentions

so I have to swerve my mouse pointer around it to make the damn thing go away.

BTW, this is nothing that Dave has control over: this behavior is baked into the Simple Machines code. I'm on another forum that uses the same "engine" and it does the same thing.

Not the way I would have designed things. But then they never asked me.
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #263 on: December 21, 2024, 03:33:24 am »

I see what you mean

Yes I notice that sometimes as I hover the mouse over them where the menu's swing out but manage to avoid clicking anything on them to cause irritation as I just click elsewhere in area where I know it'd collapse the open menu.
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #264 on: December 21, 2024, 11:11:06 am »
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I just click elsewhere in area where I know it'd collapse the open menu

In my browser moving the mouse over the button opens the menu, but when the mouse leaves the menu area it collapses. No need to click anything. Running Waterfox G5.
 

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Re: Bad/bloated web design
« Reply #265 on: December 21, 2024, 07:53:20 pm »
Well, same here (Opera here), and I suspect the same with him too; you just move the mouse and the menu disappears.
Still annoying, though, as it's another obstacle to navigation.
 


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