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Offline bson

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #225 on: March 16, 2019, 11:43:52 am »
The patent applicant seems to be "CPG Technologies, LLC".  Probably the business of the CTO or founders. 

Patent application search time...

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=CPG+Technologies&FIELD1=AANM&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PG01

115 applications, most in the last year or so.  Legitimate or not (sounds up there with anti-gravity gyroscopes, hyperloop, self filling water bottles, to me but I don't really know) - they sure do crank out patent applications!
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #226 on: March 16, 2019, 12:34:41 pm »
please read all my earlier posts, where I did post some links and No one bothered to follow them up except for two folks who contacted me on researchgate redirected from this forum.

Which of your posts contained links? Meaning URL to readable information in form of HTML or pdf document?

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I need not be reminded about how to respond, when you simply allow this kind of unscientific way of questioning on this forum.



"Unscientific way" of asking for information (paper) does not justify insults and name calling. Scientific way of questioning would be just take your words for granted?

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Something odgen has been trying very hard to be and has ended up exactly like an unruly teenager.

Here we go again. You better send me your paper (in PM), not insults.

Alright. Sorry for being a bit triggered. However, your stance came across very aggressive. Hence, I wont be backing down on whatever I said.
As far as links are concerned, I deleted the post, after I found no one bothered to look up.
Ask me politely, I shall answer your questions to the best of my understanding.
Sent you the preprint link via PM and email ID too.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #227 on: March 16, 2019, 09:55:11 pm »
Alright. Sorry for being a bit triggered. However, your stance came across very aggressive. Hence, I wont be backing down on whatever I said.

It tells a lot, especially knowing that it was you who started profanity and insults. Whatever. Please keep further communication professional no matter how aggravating are questions, assertions or conclusions. If someone do not believe in what you say - better provide additional information to convince nonbelievers rather than just become triggered teenage keyboard warrior yourself.

Thank you, I received PM. Will check your paper. Why don't you share it with everyone here - after all it is public and there's nothing that would fall into nondisclosure category.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #228 on: March 16, 2019, 10:14:47 pm »
Will check your paper. Why don't you share it with everyone here - after all it is public and there's nothing that would fall into nondisclosure category.
I had been wondering the same thing -- but I can see that Saisharma might not want his forum name linked to his real name in a permanent, public post.

Please keep further communication professional no matter how aggravating are questions, assertions or conclusions.
Please keep your questioning professoinal too. No need for "Spanish inquisition" style interrogations.  ;)
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #229 on: March 17, 2019, 02:01:38 pm »
Sent email to your queries.
Thanks.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #230 on: March 17, 2019, 02:05:57 pm »
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I had been wondering the same thing -- but I can see that Saisharma might not want his forum name linked to his real name in a permanent, public post.
Well, its a 4-5 years of work in progress. Over the years some reviewers and folks at conference in the past called me names. Downright rude and down right unprofessional
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1. Crack,
2. Tesla-cult in the academia,
3. capacitive power transfer being packaged as guided mode power etc.
4. Are you trying to disprove a 2 century old Faraday shielding? I am surprised you have a college education at your disposal.
and on and on.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #231 on: Yesterday at 08:18:15 am »
HMM...I WONDER WHY...

I wonder if it's because you have yet to produce real concrete data that shows it's not only functional but...wait for it...PRACTICAL.
*BZZZZZZAAAAAP*
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #232 on: Yesterday at 09:49:48 am »
I wonder if it's because you have yet to produce real concrete data that shows it's not only functional but...wait for it...PRACTICAL.

Many who follow this thread perhaps remember that I insistently asked for real experiment info/data that would confirm efficiency figure stated by SaiSharma. Claim was that everything is in the paper which can be obtained (only) on request. I got The Paper. Guess what - did I see scientifically sound proof of SaiSharma's claims? Obviously I can't tell unless paper is made public at least for readers of this thread.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #233 on: Yesterday at 10:22:13 am »
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I had been wondering the same thing -- but I can see that Saisharma might not want his forum name linked to his real name in a permanent, public post.
Well, its a 4-5 years of work in progress. Over the years some reviewers and folks at conference in the past called me names. Downright rude and down right unprofessional
e.g.
1. Crack,
2. Tesla-cult in the academia,
3. capacitive power transfer being packaged as guided mode power etc.
4. Are you trying to disprove a 2 century old Faraday shielding? I am surprised you have a college education at your disposal.
and on and on.

Engineers are incredibly easy to shut up, they deal in facts, just show them concrete data and it's done.

If you don't have concrete data to show your device works and/or is practical, then it's not unexpected for people to call you things when you work in this sort of field. Because there are countless crackpots and tesla-nuts out there, the internet is filled with them, and many startup companies have stolen a lot of peoples money. People have good reasons to be very skeptical.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #234 on: Yesterday at 11:06:25 am »
HMM...I WONDER WHY...

I wonder if it's because you have yet to produce real concrete data that shows it's not only functional but...wait for it...PRACTICAL.
I admit, back then I didnt have a concrete theory and simulation model to rely upon.
Please check ur PM.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #235 on: Yesterday at 11:08:05 am »
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I had been wondering the same thing -- but I can see that Saisharma might not want his forum name linked to his real name in a permanent, public post.
Well, its a 4-5 years of work in progress. Over the years some reviewers and folks at conference in the past called me names. Downright rude and down right unprofessional
e.g.
1. Crack,
2. Tesla-cult in the academia,
3. capacitive power transfer being packaged as guided mode power etc.
4. Are you trying to disprove a 2 century old Faraday shielding? I am surprised you have a college education at your disposal.
and on and on.

Engineers are incredibly easy to shut up, they deal in facts, just show them concrete data and it's done.

If you don't have concrete data to show your device works and/or is practical, then it's not unexpected for people to call you things when you work in this sort of field. Because there are countless crackpots and tesla-nuts out there, the internet is filled with them, and many startup companies have stolen a lot of peoples money. People have good reasons to be very skeptical.
That was years ago, when I was what you call a N00B.
In certain ways am still learning. Thats what researchers are supposed to do, i.e. Keep learning.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #236 on: Yesterday at 11:09:20 am »
I wonder if it's because you have yet to produce real concrete data that shows it's not only functional but...wait for it...PRACTICAL.

Many who follow this thread perhaps remember that I insistently asked for real experiment info/data that would confirm efficiency figure stated by SaiSharma. Claim was that everything is in the paper which can be obtained (only) on request. I got The Paper. Guess what - did I see scientifically sound proof of SaiSharma's claims? Obviously I can't tell unless paper is made public at least for readers of this thread.
Lets do one thing, next time you have a business trip to Korea. Let me know, I will take you to my facility, and we can do all the testing as per your standards?
Hope that would work for you.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #237 on: Yesterday at 11:18:03 am »
Many who follow this thread perhaps remember that I insistently asked for real experiment info/data that would confirm efficiency figure stated by SaiSharma. Claim was that everything is in the paper which can be obtained (only) on request. I got The Paper. Guess what - did I see scientifically sound proof of SaiSharma's claims? Obviously I can't tell unless paper is made public at least for readers of this thread.
Lets do one thing, next time you have a business trip to Korea. Let me know, I will take you to my facility, and we can do all the testing as per your standards?
Hope that would work for you.

That's what all the people working on this sort of stuff say. I got offered US$20k and a trip to Canada to "verify" some crackpots invention.
Bottom line is, if you are inviting people to do the testing and verification for you then you are doing it wrong. You make the claims, you get to prove it. No one is going to waste their time doing any verification for you.
It's pretty trivial these days to make Youtube videos demonstrating your claims. If you have a prototype that demonstrates your claims, show it working.
NOTE: I have not been following this thread, so I don't know what's been presented so far, but it sounds like no one here is convinced so far.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #238 on: Yesterday at 11:23:26 am »
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Viziv Technologies has a portfolio of over 60 U.S. and international granted patents. Additional patent applications are in development and more are expected.
100+ Unique U.S. patents filed.
760+ Pending patent filings (U.S. and International).
65+ Patents granted (U.S. and International).

That's hundreds of thousands of dollars minimum in patent drafting costs alone, millions of dollars if done by a proper patent attorney. So where is your funding coming from?
And it's strange that with 65 US patents granted I can't find a single one under Viziv Technologies
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 11:26:24 am by EEVblog »
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #239 on: Yesterday at 11:24:16 am »
Lets do one thing, next time you have a business trip to Korea. Let me know, I will take you to my facility, and we can do all the testing as per your standards?

If my presence in your facility is only way for you to do proper measurements, then you are out of luck. Are you going to show your paper to others or not? At least pictures of setup or some demo video?

It's pretty trivial these days to make Youtube videos demonstrating your claims. If you have a prototype that demonstrates your claims, show it working.

There are some Youtube videos BTW. Only tiny detail - author shall "release" them in public.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #240 on: Yesterday at 11:55:13 am »
And it's strange that with 65 US patents granted I can't find a single one under Viziv Technologies

Smart move actually. Patents will not be auctioned when project fails.
Look what happened to Ring Power Multiplier by Texzon and project web page http://www.powermultiplier.com/
When money income of Viziv Technologies will dry out, most likely same scientists will start next energy-related venture investment project.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #241 on: Yesterday at 12:32:25 pm »
He showed me a paper demonstrating wave power over METAL SURFACES. Not "OMG it will circle the earth!" power. :palm:
*BZZZZZZAAAAAP*
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #242 on: Yesterday at 12:49:38 pm »
He showed me a paper demonstrating wave power over METAL SURFACES. Not "OMG it will circle the earth!" power. :palm:
I never claimed earth! Its not possible, E-field modes would simply sink into earth because of Lossy nature!
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #243 on: Yesterday at 08:42:08 pm »
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Viziv Technologies has a portfolio of over 60 U.S. and international granted patents. Additional patent applications are in development and more are expected.
100+ Unique U.S. patents filed.
760+ Pending patent filings (U.S. and International).
65+ Patents granted (U.S. and International).

That's hundreds of thousands of dollars minimum in patent drafting costs alone, millions of dollars if done by a proper patent attorney. So where is your funding coming from?
And it's strange that with 65 US patents granted I can't find a single one under Viziv Technologies

Back in the late 00's I worked for a hooky as hell tech startup. Someone just turned up with a suitcase of £50 notes one day and said "here you go". Lots of people will just throw money at ideas and eventually one of them will stick and make them a return. We didn't even pitch to this guy. We bought some MacBooks, nice Aeron chairs and ate at Moro three days a week at lunch times. Good times. We were comfortable and ate like kings.

At least they spent it on patents  :-DD
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #244 on: Today at 01:08:03 am »
Lets do one thing, next time you have a business trip to Korea. Let me know, I will take you to my facility, and we can do all the testing as per your standards?

If my presence in your facility is only way for you to do proper measurements, then you are out of luck. Are you going to show your paper to others or not? At least pictures of setup or some demo video?

Update: I did not get proof of power efficiency in private email conversation. Still nonbeliever. When seeing scope screen I pointed out that SaiSharma does not measure AC RMS voltage and current properly guess what happened?  :-DD
 
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