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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #250 on: March 23, 2019, 07:50:08 am »
Looks like it's running at 1710KHz.   

https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B009'24.0%22N+96%C2%B056'22.0%22W/@32.1527028,-96.9413238,1530m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d32.1566667!4d-96.9394444

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The FCC application, search https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
try entering"viziv."    Transmitter callsign WN9XDJ  1.4KW18 kHz   Expires April 2019

"Purpose Of Operation:
"The purpose of the test will be to confirm effective launching of a Zenneck surface wave and to
"measure its propagation and attenuation characteristics on a global scale.
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #251 on: May 10, 2019, 02:47:16 pm »
How well did the testing go.  :) :-BROKE :horse: \$\Omega\$ :bullshit: >:D
« Last Edit: May 10, 2019, 03:06:38 pm by StillTrying »
CML+  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #252 on: May 10, 2019, 02:54:13 pm »
They're busy starting a new company and redoing the branding probably for the next round of funding :-DD
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #253 on: July 09, 2019, 08:03:24 pm »
Think they’re definitely dead.

Actually did some reading and they partnered with Baylor university. World renown for absolutely not being heard of that one. Oh right it’s a Christian university with such alumni as Satan’s (Larry Ellison) right hand man Mark Hurd ironically. Even though they’re relatively unknown they now have the equivalent of a vegan vampire tapping their funding cabbage.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #254 on: March 03, 2020, 10:34:45 pm »
Not dead apparently, rebranded as Viziv https://vizivtechnologies.com/ and have a new tower. As featured in Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/

Their "not an antenna" transmission tower bears more than a passing resemblance to Tesla's. Apparently James L Corum PhD is a fan of Tesla.

It sounded like bullshit, a little digging and I end up on this thread... still impossible to find any convincing theory as to how it works. Tesla really seems to attract a lot of nutcases.

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #255 on: March 03, 2020, 11:24:20 pm »
So, just an observation, nearly every person involved in company management either comes from a law background or worked with lots of patents.
This "director of engineering" guy lilley even has this positive spin on his profile: "and completed course work toward his PhD"...  What this is really saying is that he dropped out of a PhD program, but with an attempted positive spin on this negative statement I can't help but think that there is even more to this story...

I think there are even MORE patents coming out of this! Followed by an "well oops sorry investors, we can't make any money right now, but here are some sweet patents we promise will make all the money some day!"

It seems that this could be considered some kind of robbery, but if that were true then half of the SF bay area would be in jail  :-DD
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #256 on: March 04, 2020, 12:06:44 am »
At that power levels, it would jam every thing operating in nearby bands as well. There is an out of band P1dB spec for almost every LNA in the world and I'm sure most of them would get fried with this power, forget degradation.
Will someone in the FCC even approve this?
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #257 on: March 04, 2020, 06:08:42 am »
At that power levels, it would jam every thing operating in nearby bands as well. There is an out of band P1dB spec for almost every LNA in the world and I'm sure most of them would get fried with this power, forget degradation.
Will someone in the FCC even approve this?

Tesla's original Colorado Springs experiments put out so much EMI that they would energize metal objects in the nearby town. Horses would get shocked by their shoes, normal barbed wire fences would become mildly electrified, tools would spark, exc. If he had gotten Wardenclyff to full power, it would have probably been much worse (possibly blowing nearby wiring and whatnot). So yeah, large low frequency transmitters are nasty and would definitely fry stuff.
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #258 on: March 04, 2020, 10:53:25 am »
Viziv seem to hedge their bets by saying it could be used for comms and navigation as well - so even if power delivery doesn't pan out they still have something. It doesn't seem like a good comms system, but the military tend to be people who pay over the odds for unique capabilities.

Tesla fans like to paint the story that rich investors pulled out because they wanted to "kill" the technology, but gloss over evidence that the system was technically not viable. Unfortunately it won't help to confirm or deny that, if Viziv fails no doubt it will be put down to some conspiracy theory about dark forces.
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #259 on: March 04, 2020, 02:29:43 pm »
At that power levels, it would jam every thing operating in nearby bands as well. There is an out of band P1dB spec for almost every LNA in the world and I'm sure most of them would get fried with this power, forget degradation.
Will someone in the FCC even approve this?

Tesla's original Colorado Springs experiments put out so much EMI that they would energize metal objects in the nearby town. Horses would get shocked by their shoes, normal barbed wire fences would become mildly electrified, tools would spark, exc. If he had gotten Wardenclyff to full power, it would have probably been much worse (possibly blowing nearby wiring and whatnot). So yeah, large low frequency transmitters are nasty and would definitely fry stuff.

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #260 on: April 09, 2020, 08:22:59 pm »
While living in LA I worked for a company that invested in this and I had the opportunity to visit the Texas site. I got to see first hand over 1KW
(a one HP motor was operating with no interconnecting wires) received at over 1km. This was using one of the smaller devices,
not the big tower. The big tower was under construction and was testing using just a few watts. The small tower/device was
running about 5KW from a AM broadcast transmitter. This project is REAL and there is no magic behind the curtain. The Corum’s
are first rate scientists and have been identified by the US government as a national resource with their work at Airforce
Cambridge. I had the chance to talk with them at the Viziv/Texzon facility. They are considered THE authority on Tesla’s RF
work and Ball Lightning by the Russians and Americans both. They indicated that they had full access to all the Tesla documents
in Belgrade while working with the 1st and 2nd directors and hinted there is nothing left with the FBI or Wright Pat. It was obvious the
Viziv/Texon managers of the company were in strong control of the Corum's and their work.

They made it clear the work in Milford is to basically make an “extension cord” for power, and global communications with very
low power, and phased arrays for geo-location, and a dozen other RF application. There is no free energy nonsense. Their claim
is that they discovered how to produce a Zenneck Surface wave (proposed by two german scientists, Jonathan Zenneck and
Arnold Sommerfield) by supplying the ground with RF fields at the Brewster angle. A Zenneck wave drops off as one over the
square root of the distance. However when a load is connected to earth all the power went to the load with minor losses. The
losses are usually associated with the higher frequencies. During the presentation they indicated it was much the same as using
teledeltos paper. The energy is in the traveling wave fields not in radiation or conduction through the earth. The goal of the big
tower was to produce a Zenneck Surface wave that will reach around the globe. Something in the neighborhood of 100 Hertz.
For Tesla the world frequency was 11 Hertz (which is a surface wave resonance) not 7.8 Hertz (which is Schumann resonance).

They showed us a laser (light is EM wave the same as radio frequencies) pointer reflected
off the conference room table, at the Brewster angle there was no reflection. But, if you looked along the edge of the table
the light was very bright. They explained the light energy was trapped along the surface of the table. The Corum's spent 40 years
trying to figure out how to do the same thing with RF. They indicated the obstacle was the earth around the tower.
Apparently the dirt's RF properties are frequency sensitive and it made the Brewster angle non-real (with light the angle is real),
or complex (like R+jX).

Some how they made a complex Brewster angle by playing with the phase and voltage of the local RF fields. This created an
infinite plane as required to launch a Zenneck Surface wave. I hope some day they publish what is behind all the patents.
They did not mention anything about Schumann resonance or the ionosphere. They claimed they created a one sided wave guide
much like plasmons use at light frequencies. The Corum's have certainly unlocked fertile ground for engineers to plow for many
years to come.

Their real joy was the the replication of an experiment done by Bell Labs in the mid 1930s. They actually redid the experiment
at the same location as in the 1930s, at Seneca Lake in New York. The Corum’s were able to demonstrate
that the 1930s experiment was incomplete. They replicated what Bell Labs did and then demonstrated that if the radiation was
removed by making the structure very small and the RF fields were just so for the lake water, a Zenneck Surface wave could be
produced just as Zenneck predicted. That proved that Zenneck and Sommerfield were correct back around 1910 and the work of
Kenneth Norton in the 1930's at the FCC was not quite correct. Zenneck waves do not have near and far fields, just a traveling
wave with very very low loss. If you make the frequency very low <1kHz, then the wave attenuation is less than 0.25 db to the
antipode and back.

From what I was able to get out of the presentation regarding Tesla was that they had reproduced Tesla’s Colorado Springs
experiment and sent power 25 miles. Tesla's work laid the foundation but the Viziv/Texzon tower greatly expands on Tesla's work.
Their work is not to make big sparks, but very special EM fields with the smallest amount of power possible.
They were quite adamant that there are no Tesla secrets and no cover ups. Everything you need is in the existing Tesla literature.
What is not in the literature is the “how does it work”. That is in their patents and 40 years of hard labor. One of the Corum’s
had a big sign in his office, Do what Tesla tells you to do and you get the same results. Don’t try to do what you think Tesla
did (something like that). There was also a working replica of one of Tesla receivers in his office. It was the same one Corum
used to listen to the Jovian decametric signals and hear one, two, three.

Here is a website that trys to keep up with the Corum public publications. Who knows what else they are working on…
teslasociety.com/pdf/who_was_the_real_dr_nikola_tesla.pdf
teslasociety.com/mars.html
nedyn.com
For Russian speaking,
teslasociety.com/russiantesla.pdf

It was a fascinating day spent at Milford, TX.
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #261 on: April 10, 2020, 03:40:59 pm »
 :horse: :blah:

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #262 on: April 10, 2020, 04:49:59 pm »
It’s a shitty cut and paste shill as well. I bet if you google it you’ll find the same text somewhere else.

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #263 on: April 10, 2020, 09:33:32 pm »
He's banned but I leave the text for humorous posterity.
 
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #264 on: April 11, 2020, 03:09:47 am »
Shill of the day award winner!  :-DD
 
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #265 on: April 11, 2020, 04:40:05 am »
He's banned but I leave the text for humorous posterity.

He's been expelled from EEVBlog University for plaigerising his shill. His "work" will now be displayed to his fellow scammer classmates as a bad example.

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #266 on: April 11, 2020, 06:45:08 pm »
It’s a shitty cut and paste shill as well. I bet if you google it you’ll find the same text somewhere else.

Yes, right here on Hackaday. It's in the comments, also posted by "George" a week earlier:
https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/
 
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #267 on: April 11, 2020, 07:36:33 pm »
Should read Tesla Tower Tells Trivial Twonks To Transfer To Texzon Tonnes of Tens  :-DD
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #268 on: April 11, 2020, 08:15:26 pm »
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf
Either there is a language barrier, I am too tired, or this is just nonsensical technobabble, but I can not parse a single paragraph of this.
Anyone up for a read?
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #269 on: April 11, 2020, 08:24:11 pm »
If it's like the last one I read, it's probably a straw man, backed with a fuck load of vector calculus derived from Maxwell's Equations, some trite representation of propagation from the anal sphincter of a spherical cow in a vacuum but plonked on top of a stick near the ground, a miraculous jump to a conclusion, a bunch of loose references and written by someone with plausible experience with lots of letters after their name and alzheimer's...
 
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #270 on: April 12, 2020, 03:02:20 am »
It's well known that spherical cows deliver a more uniform frequency of manure.

I'm shocked that you weren't aware of this
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #271 on: April 18, 2020, 06:14:10 pm »
So if they are doing what Tesla tells them to do, then they will fail the same way, did I get that right?  :-//
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #272 on: April 18, 2020, 06:16:58 pm »
Correct. The failure being it a load of bullshit :)
 

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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #273 on: April 19, 2020, 03:21:24 pm »
So if they are doing what Tesla tells them to do, then they will fail the same way, did I get that right?  :-//

Yep, except in this age if they blow up a substation or cause massive EMF fields they are in a much bigger heap of trouble. >:D
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Re: Bullshit: Texzon Wireless Power
« Reply #274 on: April 19, 2020, 07:49:24 pm »
Yep, except in this age if they blow up a substation or cause massive EMF fields they are in a much bigger heap of trouble. >:D
Nah. No need to even try to demonstrate anything. They can continute to defraud investors with just promises. They do not even hide that tech is not feasible. If fools reading "A Zenneck wave drops off as one over the square root of the distance", still give away their money for that - why do you even care?
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