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DCS (Deep Cycle Systems) Batteries
MrMobodies:
Looks like they might have forgotten about this one which dates back has some articles from to 2021.
https://archive.ph/www.deepcyclesystems.com.au
Or maybe they just took out the stuff that they didn't want to be seen anymore.
The Trove archive doesn't seem to be flexible I can't seem to download the pages or present the pages fully as it seems to be in an Iframe.
Warranty, Shipping & Return Policies
2021
https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20210309133200/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/
2022
https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20220324200822/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/
https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20221028051546/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/
2023
https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20230309064156/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/shipping-return-policy/
MrMobodies:
--- Quote ---20:44 I have recently also become aware that DCS has descretely modified their warranty terms
without clearly marking the date of these changes. The only source for the DCS'S terms is their website as they don't provide the user manual or terms and conditions with their products although the DCS website indicates the latest update was on June 14, 2021, they had actually reduced their capacity warranty from 80% to 70% sometime between March and November 2023 without any notification on their site.
11:26 Thankfully tools like the Wayback Machine allow us to view past versions of websites by requests from several individuals including myself, DCS has neither privately nor publically disclosed the exact date their altered terms.
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--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 23, 2024, 01:33:20 am ---The internet archive has been scrubbed for before 2024
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Absolutely disgusting.
Oh look I have evidence you altered the warranty according from an older copy of your website on archive.org
DCS: Lets demand archive.org remove it from history then continue to sue him.
We only want the court to see what we want them to see and everything else we don't want them to see well just say it is copyright and demand they dispose of it
Looks like I can't rely on Archive.org anymore to find out past facts.
I wonder how far will they go and whether they'd pursue this other person who tested their batteries and tore it down but he's from the states.
--- Quote ---16:56 I don't know why anyone would buy these. This is just a run-of-the-mill Chinese battery all, these companies in America and Australia, they're just slapping stickers of course they have an engineering team and they go to China and they figure out what they need but it's all made in China it's still made in China they get the parts from China
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He thinks it's not even their own battery so if that is the case and they talk about copyright.
https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20210309133431/https://www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/terms-conditions/
10 Mar 2021 www.deepcyclesystems.com.au/terms-conditions/
--- Quote ---TERMS & CONDITIONS
WE MAY CHANGE THESE TERMS ANY TIME. BY USING THE SITE AFTER A CHANGE, YOU AGREE TO FOLLOW AND BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AS CHANGED. PLEASE READ THESE TERMS REGULARLY.
--- End quote ---
So they could do what they like.
Joke: You agree to follow and be bound to kiss our a*rse and be gagged.
I wonder if this was the case when he purchased his first battery in 2019 but they had it removed from Archive.org
--- Quote ---SITE CONTENTS
You should *assume* everything you see, *hear, or otherwise receive from or on the Site (the Contents) is copyright :bullshit: , trademark, trade dress or other intellectual property owned and/or licensed by DCS. The Contents include images, illustrations, designs, icons, photographs, trademarks, logos, text, software, sounds, music, the Site as a whole and any other materials at the Site. You may use or download the Contents solely for your personal, noncommercial purposes, provided you keep all copyright and other proprietary notices with them. No other type of use is permitted. Downloading or copying Content does not transfer any right, title or interest in any Content to you. The downloading or export of software or technical data from this Site to any jurisdiction in violation of Australian export laws is strictly prohibited.
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*Trying to copyright word of mouth.
--- Quote ---USER COMMENTS AND SUBMISSIONS
We welcome your comments regarding our Site, our products and our services. :bullshit: However, any idea, suggestion, or other information you transmit to the Site is, and will be treated as, non-confidential and nonproprietary. * Any comment, **idea, suggestion, response or other material or information you or others transmit to us through this Site or otherwise shall become entirely DCS property. :bullshit: This includes personal information about you and your use of the Site. Please review our Privacy Policy Statement for more information. You promise that no information or material you transmit to DCS, (www.deepcyclesystems.com.au) will violate anyone else’s right, including copyright, trademark, privacy or other rights. You may not transmit any information that is or contains threatening, libellous, defamatory, scandalous, inflammatory, pornographic, profane or otherwise unlawful, abusive or obscene material. You shall be solely responsible for the content of any Comments you make. DCS is not responsible or liable for the content of information that others post at or transmit to the Site, for any error, defamation, libel, slander, omission, falsehood, obscenity, pornography or profanity contained in any such information, or for the conduct of any Site user.
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So in other words they "welcome" comments about their products and services but nobody can tell of them as the DCS proclaims it as their property and subject it to copyright and then come after you. :bullshit:
**Joke: Don't give them any ideas.
I just found this doing a reverse lookup of their BMS board:
https://www.ksenergy.co.uk/our-technology/
I wonder, is it an off the shelf part of did they copied their picture.
I see they registered the domain in 2019 according to whois.
https://whois.domaintools.com/ksenergy.co.uk
--- Quote --- 2,014 days old
Created on 2019-03-02
Expires on 2025-03-02
Updated on 2024-02-24
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They seemed to have update details on their domain.
https://whois.domaintools.com/deepcyclesystems.com.au
--- Quote ---Updated on 2024-08-06
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But WHERE is created and expired and I am pretty sure I usually see those?
Noticed the domain registrar is also Australian
--- Quote ---Registrar Name: Melbourne IT
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https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View/63611396591
--- Quote ---Entity name: DEEP CYCLE SYSTEMS PTY LTD
ABN status: Active from 01 Jan 2017
Entity type: Australian Private Company
Goods & Services Tax (GST): Registered from 01 Jan 2017
Main business location:
QLD 4272
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Been in business since 2017
Just noticed:
https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7/eevblab-120-dcs-sues-youtuber-for:d
eevBLAB 120 - DCS sues Youtuber for Defamation
1:37 In the video, "A corporation is excluded if (b) it has fewer than 10 employee's * and is not an associated entity of another corporation, and the corporation is not a public body.
* What's this then I wonder:
On the reverse lookup of that battery management board I also notice an EU website of theirs with the same name and logo:
Same lack of information about the domain too for the EU website:
--- Quote ---https://whois.domaintools.com/dcslithiumbatteries.eu
Registrar Key-Systems GmbH
IANA ID: —
URL: —
Whois Server: —
Registrant:
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for the web-based WHOIS.
On-site(s):
NOT DISCLOSED!
Visit www.eurid.eu for the web-based WHOIS.
Registrar:
Name: Key-Systems GmbH
Website: www.key-systems.net
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Earliest archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230315101117/https://dcslithiumbatteries.eu/
If that is true and they are associated or part of another company and there must be more than ten people working there looking at the contacts below on their EU website which does not seem to state a contact for Australia.
Just noticed 10 contacts on an EU website with the same and logo:
https://dcslithiumbatteries.eu/contact-us/
--- Quote ---01 Belgium Fotografielaan 26 2610 Wilrijk, Antwerpen +32460208530
02 Austria Hackengasse 30/22 1150 Vienna Osterreich +436703081110
03 France 9 Chemin Du Preconil 83120 Sainte-maxime +33755532101
04 Germany Albrecht-Durer-StraBe 20 82152 Krailling +498920175989
05 Switzerland Letzigraben 211 8047 Zurich +41445206565
06 Netherlands Donkere Spaarne 42 2011 JH Haarlem +3197005033204
07 Spain C/d'elkano 45 08004 Barcelona +34930301730
08 UK 21 Hampshire Terrace Portsmouth PO1 2QB +447537150513
09 Ireland 12 Castle St Wicklow, A67 TX80 +35319635400
10 Italy Via Jan Palach 2 20090 Segrate, Milan
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With all those locations and different languages involved how can there be less than 10 people working for them.
Also found this:
https://soundcloud.com/kaasib
--- Quote ---kaasib, Zubair. Lahore, Pakistan
seasoned writer, programmer and traveller. Managing dcslithiumbatteries.eu/
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He does this stuff in Sydney but he's in Pakistan which seems a little odd to me unless he travels there.
From a Google customized date search for dcslithiumbatteries.eu to find the earliest article I see a result from 14 Sept 2021.
Haenk:
Just a bit of Google-foo:
Dr. Z... Z...
Albrecht Dürer Str. 20
82152 Krailling
Z...@z....de
The domain "z....de" is run by his son (?, but likely), offering engineering solutions, but maybe totally unrelated.
However I can't see any real business being done at the german address.
More fun:
I like the testing of batteries stacked on boxes of batteries. What could go wrong. The rightmost boxes even come with chinese stickers. (The source of the batteries is no surprise, I guess...)
Another bit: their EU site, claiming to run their business from Belgium, is in utter contrast to many EU legal requirements. I mean, pretty much all of them.
I might try the german address and ask directly for the involvement, plus a fair warning about running a business or at least acting as a business contact with likely non-compliance. I might do some more research tomorrow...
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