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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #250 on: February 24, 2026, 11:59:32 pm »
Reading between the lines: Donut Lab has no battery cell and they just sourced a quality "white box" lithium-ion cell from a supplier in China and gave it to the testing lab to test.

Don't they have some association with some graphene battery research company?
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #251 on: February 25, 2026, 01:41:16 am »
Reading between the lines: Donut Lab has no battery cell and they just sourced a quality "white box" lithium-ion cell from a supplier in China and gave it to the testing lab to test.

Don't they have some association with some graphene battery research company?

Yes, the AI summary:  The Finnish EV technology company Donut Lab has partnered with and invested in Nordic Nano Group, a company focusing on nanotechnology solutions, to develop advanced energy storage technologies, including the use of nanocarbon materials.

When I look at their website I see a lot of "bla bla bla" but nothing really tangible.  So I seriously doubt there is any Nordic Nano Group secret sauce in an alleged Donut Lab battery.

https://www.nordicnano.co/
 
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #252 on: February 25, 2026, 03:01:00 am »
Reading between the lines: Donut Lab has no battery cell and they just sourced a quality "white box" lithium-ion cell from a supplier in China and gave it to the testing lab to test.

Don't they have some association with some graphene battery research company?

CT-Coating AG -> Sana Energy -> Nordic Nano & Donut Lab (& Holyvolt, & maybe others)

https://old.reddit.com/r/DonutLab/comments/1rdsgw5/sana_energy_boss_confirms_that_ctcoating_is_the/o78pfdj/

Ultimately, the technology (assumption it is verifiable) appears to come from CT-Coating who are a research company that have been working on this for a while, Sana is some sort of sales subsidiary of CT, who is licencing and possibly supplying production lines to companies, of which Donut is one.
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #253 on: February 25, 2026, 08:42:14 am »
Here is the some kind of current "final conclusion" based solely on the VTT report curves and numerical behavior (without relying on any Donut’s marketing claims):

1) Most likely category: Li-ion intercalation cell (not a supercapacitor)

The voltage range 2.7–4.15 V, maximum 4.3 V, nominal 3.6 V, together with the characteristic CC→CV transition and exponential-like CV current decay, are highly consistent with a Li-ion intercalation cell (such as NMC/NCA/LNMO family or a closely related chemistry).

Based on the voltage vs time and CC-CV behavior alone, this device does not resemble a pure capacitive storage device, nor does it exhibit a fundamentally different voltage profile that would indicate an entirely new electrochemical storage mechanism.


2) What it most likely is: a very low-polarization Li-ion cell with optimized internal structure

Published VTT paper curves clearly show that:

CC phase continues unusually far even at very high C-rates (up to 11C), meaning the terminal voltage does not immediately hit the CV limit.

This implies low total polarization, i.e. low effective internal resistance and/or very efficient ion transport and charge transfer.

Voltage curves remain smooth and stable even at very high current.

This strongly suggests the cell is still fundamentally a Li-ion intercalation system, but with exceptionally well-optimized internal structure, such as:

improved electrode conductivity,

optimized electrode thickness,

enhanced ion transport pathways,

or improved electrode surface structure.


3) Thermal behavior follows classical Li-ion physics

Difference between the one-heatsink and two-heatsink cases behaves exactly as expected from electrochemical and thermal theory:

Hotter cell (one heatsink) shows lower polarization, so during CC charging its voltage can remain lower and the CV phase shortens.

Cooler cell (two heatsinks) maintains higher polarization, so the voltage reaches the limit earlier and the CV tail is longer.

This behavior is entirely consistent with conventional Li-ion cells and does not require any exotic explanation.


4) CV decay time constants ("tau") do not indicate fundamentally new storage mechanism

Calculated CV current decay time constants were approximately:

~2.4–3.9 minutes at 11C,

~4.5–5.8 minutes at 5C (two-heatsink case),

and importantly, the time constant increases at lower current levels, which is characteristic of diffusion-limited behavior near full charge.

This is exactly what is expected from Li-ion intercalation systems.

If this were primarily a supercapacitor-like (including chemical pseudocapacitor)  storage mechanism, one would typically expect either:

significantly different voltage vs charge profile, or

very different CV decay behavior.

That is not observed here.


5) What this does NOT rule out

This cell could still be "special" within the Li-ion family. For example:

Anode may be a nanostructured carbon or other advanced structure.

Cathode may be a different composition than conventional NMC111/NMC811.

Internal architecture may be highly optimized for fast ion transport.

This is fully compatible with the observed voltage behavior.

VTT report also does not rule out the possibility that this is a particularly well-performing individual sample rather than representative mass-production performance.

6) What the VTT report does NOT yet provide (and what is critical)

Following key information is missing:

cycle life data at high C-rates,

capacity retention after stress tests,

internal resistance change after cycling,

statistical variation across multiple cells,

energy density (Wh/kg),

differential capacity plots (dQ/dV).

Without these, the long-term durability and true technological novelty cannot be determined.


And then also other note about test arrangement (in these the customer defines what is being tested and possibly also defines at least partially the desired test protocol)

What the minimal cooling setup may implicitly suggest

From an engineering perspective, the relatively modest or even sloppy cooling arrangement*) could be interpreted as a signal that the developer is not overly concerned about the cell’s immediate thermal stability under high charge rates. If the cell were extremely sensitive to temperature, one would normally expect very careful thermal control to avoid overheating or unstable behavior during validation testing.
*) Also note that this is a pouch type cell.

By contrast, demonstrating high-rate charging with only passive heatsinking may implicitly suggest that the cell can tolerate significant thermal stress, at least over short durations, without catastrophic failure or severe instability.

However, there are several possible explanations for this choice of setup:

It may simply reflect a cell-level characterization test, intended to observe the intrinsic limits of the cell rather than demonstrate a production-ready thermal system.

It may be intended to show that the cell’s performance is not highly dependent on sophisticated cooling, which could be advantageous in practical applications.

It may also be a way to demonstrate robustness under less-than-ideal thermal conditions.

At the same time, this type of test alone does not establish long-term durability, cycle life, or degradation behavior at elevated temperatures, which are equally important considerations for real-world use.

In summary, the cooling setup could reasonably be interpreted as suggesting that the developers are confident in the cell’s short-term thermal tolerance, but additional data would be needed to determine its long-term thermal robustness and operational limits.

Next small part of the entire ordered test has been promised to be released on Monday next week. This way of releasing things is not very nice. But it is their chosen strategy, the reasons for which can be varied, both good and bad.
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #254 on: February 25, 2026, 02:05:55 pm »
Fantastic summary, rf-loop.

Just a few comments from my peanut gallery.

I laugh at myself in an earlier posting wishing that they would use a dumb resistor to verify the energy stored in the battery.  My mindset is still caught in the mode of watching amateur "free energy" clips on YouTube from years ago.

On the subject of "free energy" it's somewhat amusing how the majority of the people that make clips can't wrap their minds around what a current source is.  That battery tester would be a challenge for them to understand.

Back to the subject matter at hand, I don't know why they didn't use thermal paste between the battery and the heat sink(s).  I find that counterintuitive.  Also, I am going to guess that there are thin and flat thermocouples with flat wires that could have been embedded in the thermal paste to show temperatures at various points on the battery cell.

I honestly didn't think much about thermal management issues for a real automotive battery pack for high-C charging rates.  My first whack at it would be for high-C charging, you pump oil through the battery pack and the heat is dissipated with a radiator and fan, or a part of the car chassis itself acts as a thermal sink.

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #255 on: February 25, 2026, 07:38:22 pm »
tldr:  Ordinary Li-Ion cell. Estimated IR of 2 mohm.



Excellent video. Agreed with all points. I even missed the mention of the 90degC safety limit and the stopped test when reading the report. This is one of the smoking guns that it's just an ordinary state-of-the-art li-ion (NMC or NCA) cell.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #256 on: February 25, 2026, 07:48:18 pm »
From an engineering perspective, the relatively modest or even sloppy cooling arrangement*) could be interpreted as a signal that the developer is not overly concerned about the cell’s immediate thermal stability under high charge rates. If the cell were extremely sensitive to temperature, one would normally expect very careful thermal control to avoid overheating or unstable behavior during validation testing.

Excellent analysis overall; to this particular point, I believe the trick is:

* Using large enough heatsinks with significant thermal mass (not only surface area)
* Using mere 1C discharge to give implicit cool-down time without having to specify long cool-down periods
* Specifying the "please stop the test if 90degC safety limit is exceeded" condition to me signifies they were somewhat concerned,
* Taking some residual risk of cell failing in the test, of course. That risk did not realize, lucky for them.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #257 on: February 25, 2026, 11:49:21 pm »
Here is the some kind of current "final conclusion" based solely on the VTT report curves and numerical behavior (without relying on any Donut’s marketing claims):

1) Most likely category: Li-ion intercalation cell (not a supercapacitor)


Shouldn't the sheer size:weight ratio (density) of the thingy be a clear indicator if its a supe-cap or not, if we are to take a claim of "400Wh/kg" or whatever they claim their tech is?

And doesn't the do-NUT Lab call it a "battery", which is in alignment with "not a supe-cap"?
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #258 on: February 26, 2026, 05:33:08 am »
Note that the fist video of the charging of a battery cell that was released at the January CES show was a sham.  It showed constant voltage and constant current for most of the charging cycle.  It didn't even make any sense.  Contrast that to the battery curves from the battery tester unit from the test lab where the curves make sense.

There has been considerable push-back from around the web and on YouTube for the first release in the series of test lab videos.

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #259 on: February 26, 2026, 07:21:44 am »
* Specifying the "please stop the test if 90degC safety limit is exceeded" condition to me signifies they were somewhat concerned,

Some people have been saying this was a limit imposed by the test lab based on previous experience with lithium ion batteries.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #260 on: February 26, 2026, 08:38:15 am »
* Specifying the "please stop the test if 90degC safety limit is exceeded" condition to me signifies they were somewhat concerned,

Some people have been saying this was a limit imposed by the test lab based on previous experience with lithium ion batteries.

If so, that would mean VTT did not believe their clients' claims of the technology and its higher safety limits  :)

It would make sense. VTT could have said, "we can do more expensive testing in a fire-proof container, or we can impose this limit".
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #261 on: February 26, 2026, 12:47:33 pm »
* Specifying the "please stop the test if 90degC safety limit is exceeded" condition to me signifies they were somewhat concerned,

Some people have been saying this was a limit imposed by the test lab based on previous experience with lithium ion batteries.

If so, that would mean VTT did not believe their clients' claims of the technology and its higher safety limits  :)

It would make sense. VTT could have said, "we can do more expensive testing in a fire-proof container, or we can impose this limit".

I wouldn't really pay much attention to that 90 °C cutoff limit in this very carelessly made cooling setup and the placement of the temperature sensors.
The only thing it indicates is that the manufacturer didn't specify any strictly controlled and defined cooling for the test (where the pressure and good thermal contact against the bag cell would be monitored). That just shows that some kind of protective limit has been thrown on the temperature measured from the cell surface somehow under the fold of the side seam and from the some point between the poles at the end of the cell.

Anyone who knows anything about things understands that the actual general internal temperature of the cell and possible hot spots may significantly exceed the temperature detected by that measurement.
Inside that setup, it can easily exceed 100 - 120 °C in some places and if the structure were very "hot spots" favorable, then in something like that then even more.

The only purpose of the test, as far as I understand, was solely to prove that they have at least one cell that appears in the test and that was charged at approximately 1C, 5C and 11C as shown in the report including some measurement data.

Thermal tests, at least that's what I want to believe, will be published later, as they were done for such a battery. Hopefully, they were ordered well-defined and not in a way that was tailored to investment marketing, as was largely the case with this extremely limited charging quick test.

Now then, many have probably heard about the hype about the battery cell that mentions 100 degrees.

The more detailed text next to it is worth reading carefully and taking into account everything that is left unsaid.
It reads like this:

DonutLab web side  advertisement txt: "High-temperature test
Validated under sustained high-temperature operation.
Tested above 80 °C, maintaining stable operation without ignition or performance degradation. Even when heating the cell beyond 100 °C, capacity retention remains at over 99%, with no signs of ignition or degradation."

Also in this quick charging speed test conducted by VTT, the limit was set at over 80 °C.

In my opinion, the only thing known at this stage is that, and only that, which is written and included in the  VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland Ltd report.

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #262 on: February 26, 2026, 04:09:48 pm »
I wouldn't really pay much attention to that 90 °C cutoff limit in this very carelessly made cooling setup and the placement of the temperature sensors.

I see that point, but it's also awfully convenient that the one heatsink configuration provided the "best" result and also just _barely_ avoided the 90C cutoff.

It doesn't look like the cooling was well enough controlled for that to be completely deliberate.  But I can see it being a bit of a gamble, with spin ready for if the one heat sink configuration test was halted.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #263 on: February 26, 2026, 04:36:12 pm »
From that reddit link in #253,
Sana requested post be removed.

So it's no graphene supe cap. Darn.
Just higher density toxic lithium stuff.

Who is "Sana Energy" vs sana.com.es vs sana.com vs sana.energy

Why is CT-Coating new trademark "OMNI COA" ?
Their site is 101% lame https://ctc-ag.com/en/we-about-us.html

SANA/CT sounds to me like Liz Holmes, and the NUTlab is looking for some Walgreens.

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"Donut Lab have indicated that the battery chemistry can be adjusted to provide "any" voltage range (presumably within some broad limits), and that the lithium voltages were chosen for backwards compatibility reasons."

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"Sana is a German/Spanish company owned by CT-Coating AG, a German company that’s been working on screen printing and nano-paste technology for batteries, solar, heating for decades. There was speculation in this sub (based on various references and leaked NDAs) that Donut’s battery is based on that same tech. Now Sana’s boss has confirmed this is the case."

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"Sana Energy is closely connected to Donut Lab's battery technology, but not as a direct partner.  The evidence suggests that Sana Energy is a spin-off company of CT-Coating AG, the same entity linked to Donut Lab's battery development.

Key points:

The Sana Energy boss confirmed that CT-Coating is the source of Donut Lab's battery IP.
Sana Energy’s battery specifications (e.g., 452 Wh/kg, 100,000+ cycles) closely match Donut Lab’s claims.
SGS Germany confirmed that Test Report V1PF0004 (linked to Sana Energy) is genuine, while V47W0003 was found to be altered or fake.
A Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) from March 2025 explicitly mentions Donut Lab alongside CT-Coating and Nordic Nano Group.
CT-Coating AG holds the patents related to the battery technology, and its founder, Ernst Hölzenbein, was an eyewitness to the SGS test. "


Sana claims batt tech that uses no Lithium? Hmmmmm.
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The investigation revealed that CT-Coating AG owns a 39% stake in Next-Eco, which is the business partner platform hosting the documents. While Sana Energy markets itself as a company developing solar and battery technologies—claiming to produce solid-state batteries that are lithium-free, cobalt-free, and 100% recyclable—its technical and financial ties to CT-Coating AG suggest it operates as part of a broader ecosystem of affiliated companies focused on advanced materials and energy storage. The authenticity of some test reports linked to Sana Energy has been questioned, with SGS confirming that one report (V1PF0004) is genuine, while another (V47W0003) was altered or not genuine



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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #264 on: February 26, 2026, 09:46:10 pm »
The claim that they can tailor the operating voltage of their battery seems highly suspicious to me.  I don't believe it.

This business of waiting for the next "reveal" clip is strange.  Looking for gullible investors perhaps?  The longer you play the game, the more chances there are for finding gullible investors.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #265 on: February 26, 2026, 10:33:29 pm »
That voltage claim I suspect is based on CT paste final mixture?
Who knows, maybe they stick it under UV light to fine tune it.......  :-DD

Yep, gullible investors, just like Walgreens.
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #266 on: February 26, 2026, 10:38:33 pm »
Donut Labs
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donut buy this

I truly believe they are already losing interest just from their name alone.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #267 on: February 27, 2026, 04:28:02 am »
Here is the some kind of current "final conclusion" based solely on the VTT report curves and numerical behavior (without relying on any Donut’s marketing claims):
[...]

Isn't this just Grok slop? Why is everyone applauding? Everyone already knows Donut hasn't released real cycle life data or any details on the chemistry or supplier.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #268 on: February 27, 2026, 05:27:03 am »
wow what a front page !

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This internet presence is only a medium for contacting us and is not intended to explain our technology. You will receive detailed information about our technology after you have contacted us. A more detailed internet presence is currently being worked on and will be published in a few weeks. The international web presence is also under construction.

basically is just telling everyone to go fxxx off
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wut do you want?
 i dont need no explaining no nutin to you !

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #269 on: February 27, 2026, 06:05:25 am »
wow what a front page !
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basically is just telling everyone to go fxxx off

If they really have what they claim to have then it's pretty easy to prove it with detailed testing videos, no need to drip feed launder through a third party test house.
And the only only two specs that matter in this business are energy density/volume and cycle life.
If you really had the goods and wanted to prove it you'd already have a dedicated life cycle test setup churning out fast cycles day in day out. Hundreds or even thousands of cycles by now, updating characteristic curves on the website. Heck, even a live webcam of the testing.
Yet we get none of that. All we get is that one cell can be 11C charged a few times with a giant heatsink.  ::)
 
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #270 on: February 27, 2026, 04:44:02 pm »
wow what a front page !

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basically is just telling everyone to go fxxx off
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wut do you want?
 i dont need no explaining no nutin to you !

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I would disagree and this is common business practice.

Have you ever been involved in a tech startup?. As the lead engineer in a tech startup my opinion was that we can please no one. There is no amount of proof which will ever be acceptable other than a technology working right in front of our customer. So I agree with what the company said.

Think about it, if you owned a company and someone was harassing you demanding complete disclosure what would you do?. I would tell them to go to hell and stop harassing me. I told many of the people in our company to go to hell for the same reasons. Unless they are in a need to know position no IP will ever be disclosed even with an NDA. This is true because most people cannot be trusted to keep a secret about anything.

The better question is why do you think your entitled to anything?. Your not paying for complete disclosure only a product which works as claimed. If you buy software do you think your entitled to the source code?. No that's not the way business works.
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #271 on: February 27, 2026, 04:58:33 pm »
And the only only two specs that matter in this business are energy density/volume and cycle life.
And cost/manufacturability
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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #272 on: February 27, 2026, 06:32:10 pm »
That voltage claim I suspect is based on CT paste final mixture?
Who knows, maybe they stick it under UV light to fine tune it.......  :-DD

Yep, gullible investors, just like Walgreens.
Any serious investor will do the due diligence, and sit down with the engineers and test the thing before investing.
Whoever doesn't do that deserves it. It only costs a few thousand EUR/dollars to hire an engineer for a few days to review everything.
Plus, there are actual cars coming out with this in like a year. And the battery is going to be available from the likes of BYD or Samsung. So who is going to buy the tech from some rando?
 

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #273 on: February 27, 2026, 06:35:35 pm »
I think the CT webpage was basically abandoned in 2020.
Even the homepage buttons are 404 err

And surely yes, investors would like some basic info before even making contact. A webpage is the way to do that, highlight some basic competences and achievements, links to some test data, etc.


After some more digging, doesnt BYD make it's own batts, even selling to Chery and others.

LFP tech from Gotion High-Tech is only around 280Wh/kg, but they too coin it as "The Jinshi Battery, Gotion’s flagship all-solid-state product".

This all-solid-state BS reminds me of when HD format 1st came to market. Lots of panels were not true HD panels, but they could display HD content using a scaling engine, but the TV box said on it "HD TV". Lies do sell in tech world.

Here's what the labNUTs should be producing on webpage, something like this

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Gotion High-Tech has made significant progress in developing its all-solid-state battery technology, marking a key milestone in the commercialization of next-generation EV batteries.

The company has completed a 0.2 GWh pilot production line for its Gemstone all-solid-state battery, achieving a 90% yield rate and 100% localization of core production equipment.  This line is operational and used for road testing in prototype vehicles.
The Jinshi Battery, Gotion’s flagship all-solid-state product, features a sulfide-based solid electrolyte and advanced materials including micronized electrolytes, ultra-thin coated single-crystal cathodes, and 3D mesoporous silicon anodes.  It achieves an energy density of 350 Wh/kg at the cell level and 280 Wh/kg in the pack, enabling a projected 1,000 km driving range.
The battery has passed rigorous safety tests, including nail penetration, crush, overcharge, and 200°C thermal chamber tests.  After 365 days of validation, it showed a 150% increase in cell capacity and a 60% improvement in ionic conductivity of the sulfide electrolyte.
Gotion has begun design work for a 2 GWh mass production line and aims for small-scale vehicle integration by 2027, with full-scale mass production targeted for 2030.
In February 2026, Gotion partnered with BASF to co-develop high-performance materials and overcome technical bottlenecks in solid-state battery commercialization, leveraging BASF’s materials expertise.
The company is also advancing a quasi-solid-state G-Cell battery (300 Wh/kg) with a 12 GWh production line, and a 5C fast-charging Stellary battery that can charge from 10% to 70% in 9 minutes.

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Re: Donut Lab alleged Solid State Battery launched at CES 2026
« Reply #274 on: February 27, 2026, 10:32:19 pm »
Here is the some kind of current "final conclusion" based solely on the VTT report curves and numerical behavior (without relying on any Donut’s marketing claims):
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Isn't this just Grok slop? Why is everyone applauding? Everyone already knows Donut hasn't released real cycle life data or any details on the chemistry or supplier.

Slop implies incorrect or misleading or low quality info, its not slop as far as I know (feel free to point anything incorrect out) but it would be nice if rf-loop had stated that it was AI generated instead of posting it as their own words. @rf-loop was this the case or not?
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