Dynamic charge distribution within a resonant circuits windings

[Thor]

This is not a conventional circuit by any means I guess BUT seems theoretically logical / possible?

[Andy Chee]

I tried looking for the theory but ended up going in circles, which shouldn't be surprising for a conspiracy theory website about hydrogen electrolysis.

In other words, to asses whether something is theoretically possible, you first need a theory.

https://www.nature.com/articles/news070910-13

doi:10.1038/news070910-13

[Thor]

To me it seems like this circuit is the theory. Looks to me like the circuit suggest that there is a primary and secondary ionization occurring.. Primary being at the thermionic emissions capture electrode.. Secondary being the gas or liquid loosing electrons..

This method seems to not focus on inducing thermal kinetic energy into the gas or liquid that it is ionizing but instead it indirectly ionized the gas via thermionic emission. then ionizes the material being processed by electrostatic fields maintained by dynamic charge distribution.

This method seems to focus on resonant pulsing and non conventional discharging of electrostatic fields due to "dynamic charge distribution" in the circuits windings.. creating a electrostatic voltage zone in a dead short condition more or less possibly.

[T3sl4co1l]

It's word salad, pay it no mind.

Tim

[Andy Chee]

This method seems to not focus on inducing thermal kinetic energy into the gas or liquid that it is ionizing but instead it indirectly ionized the gas via thermionic emission.

Ionised water is H+ and OH-, which Myer’s theory seems to ignore from the outset. Electrolysed water is very different from ionised water, but he appears to treat the terms as synonymous (which they most certainly are not).

As such, everything that has built upon this faulty foundation, will also be flawed.

[coppercone2]

high voltage and water do plasma polishing.

i guess someone saw the plasma electropolishing phenomena and thought there was some crazy shit going on?

i do wonder if the plasma generated around a submerged object can be used for something like a submerged gas tube or something weird like that. but you don't get high pressure, well maybe you do, if its deep underwater?

i need a 50A 300V DC PSU and a bathyscaphe, and a technician to perform the experiment

jar jar binks does electrochemistry!

[Thor]

I like how most are quick to judge in a bad direction.. The truth will come with experiments so only time will tell!

[Thor]

Its not like dynamic charge distribution is not a thing? Its not like increasing capacitance of a winding with bifilar configuration isnt possible?  Its not like Thermionic emission and what a filament does with electrons isn't a thing..

What is not a current thing in this design is the idea of using dynamic charge distribution as a way to try and set up electrostatic fields that cant discharge conventionally as current in the circuit.. then also what happens during pulsing of that circuit.

 

[Thor]

The thing that stands out is the primary and secondary ionizations possibly occurring.. One being hot in nature(filament)  the other being low temperature (gas or liquid being processed) one mode is kinetic excitation (filament)  the other is by electrostatic force and pulsing.  The electrostatic force comes from common mode charging with reference to gnd.

[Kleinstein]

Its not like dynamic charge distribution is not a thing?

It is the thing - capital BULL-SHIT.

[Thor]

Dynamic charge distribution occurs in various scenarios and systems, often related to changes in electric fields, materials, or environmental conditions. Let's look at some key areas where it's typically observed:

Dielectric Materials: In materials with dielectric properties (like insulators in capacitors), dynamic charge distribution can happen when the material is subjected to a changing electric field. This leads to a rearrangement of charges within the material, affecting its polarization.

Capacitive Effects in Electrical Systems: In electrical systems, including transformers, as we discussed earlier, capacitive effects can lead to dynamic charge distribution. This happens due to varying electric fields between different components like windings and the core.

Semiconductor Devices: In semiconductor devices like transistors and diodes, dynamic charge distribution is a fundamental operation principle. As voltage or current conditions change, the distribution of electrons and holes (positive charges) within the semiconductor material changes, controlling the device's conductivity.

Electrochemical Reactions: In batteries and fuel cells, dynamic charge distribution occurs during charging and discharging. Here, the movement and reaction of ions result in a change in charge distribution across the electrodes.

Atmospheric Phenomena: Phenomena like lightning involve dynamic charge distribution in the atmosphere. Charges accumulate in cloud formations and eventually discharge dramatically, leading to lightning.

Biological Systems: In biological systems, dynamic charge distribution is crucial in processes like nerve signal transmission, where changes in ion concentrations across nerve cell membranes result in electrical impulses.

Plasma Physics: In plasma, which is a state of matter similar to gas but with a significant number of electrically charged particles, dynamic charge distribution is commonplace. This distribution is influenced by electric and magnetic fields.

Surface Science: On the surface of materials, especially at the nano-scale, dynamic charge distribution can occur due to various interactions, like adsorption, chemical reactions, or changes in environmental conditions.

In all these scenarios, the key aspect is the change in the distribution of charges over time or in response to changing conditions. It's a fascinating area that touches on various fields of physics, chemistry, and engineering, revealing the intricate ways that charges interact and influence matter and energy. Keep exploring these electrifying concepts; they're at the heart of so many innovations and natural phenomena

[IanB]

I suggest you might like to watch the video below for some demonstrations of "electron extraction devices" that actually work, illustrating some well understood theoretical principles:

[xrunner]

I like how most are quick to judge in a bad direction.. The truth will come with experiments so only time will tell!

Build, test, and report results here.

[T3sl4co1l]

Offhand dismissal is justified: real terms are being used, in very unreal ways.  We are familiar with the general form of these things: nonsense is presented, requests for clarification are ignored, and the thread becomes a personal dumping ground for the poster's tracts; preferably mods are called before then (which I will be flagging shortly).

It is unfortunate that some amount of experimental "research" (I use the term loosely here) is lost (excluded or disregarded), by the wider scientific community, as a result of this mechanism; but it is also justified by the extremely small chance of finding anything of value at all, divided by the large amount of effort required to extract any actual scientific conclusions from whatever (inevitably messy) process has been employed.

In short, it is not our responsibility to bend over backwards and entertain your ideas; it is your responsibility to study and learn the scientific process, to reject whatever systems of conspiracy theory have misled you; and to show that you have put in the effort, as we have.  In short, to show that a good-faith effort conversation will be worth the good-faith effort

Tim

[Andy Chee]

Dynamic charge distribution occurs in various scenarios and systems, often related to changes in electric fields, materials, or environmental conditions. Let's look at some key areas where it's typically observed:

Dielectric Materials:
Capacitive Effects in Electrical Systems:
Semiconductor Devices:
Electrochemical Reactions:
Atmospheric Phenomena:
Biological Systems:
Plasma Physics:
Surface Science:

In all these scenarios, the key aspect is the change in the distribution of charges over time or in response to changing conditions.

In all these scenarios, their respective scientific literature refers to the phenomenon simply as “charge”.

Unfortunately for Myer’s theory, there is zero theoretical explanation of the difference between “dynamic charge distribution” and “charge”.

In other words, it sounds like snake oil marketing buzz words with zero theoretical basis.

And finally a word about experimenting. No one is going to take your word for it, if you announce a successful experiment. You need to perform the experiment in front of third party witnesses, AND the equipment & experiment must be replicable by third party others.

Remember Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos? She failed due to lack of replicable evidence.

Jesus may have shunned evidence and repetitive performances of miracles, telling people to have stronger faith. But that’s not how science works.

[moffy]

Jesus may have shunned evidence and repetitive performances of miracles, telling people to have stronger faith. But that’s not how science works.

I would respectfully request that you leave Christ out of your argument as it is unnecessary. He did respect evidence, He referred others to prophecies concerning Him e.g. Psalm 22, Isaiah 53
"... and they are they which testify of me." John 5:39b

[boB]

ChatGPT (4)  has this to say....


"Dynamic charge distribution" in the context of physics and electronics typically refers to how electric charges are distributed and how they change over time in a system or material. This concept is important in various fields, including materials science, electronics, and electromagnetism. Here's a breakdown of what it entails:

Time-Dependent Distribution: Unlike static charge distribution, where charges remain fixed in place, dynamic charge distribution involves charges that move or vary over time. This can be due to changes in the material properties, external fields, or other environmental factors.

Applications in Electronics: In electronic circuits, the dynamic distribution of charge is fundamental. For example, in a semiconductor device, the distribution of charge carriers (electrons and holes) changes as the device operates, affecting its conductivity and overall behavior.

Electromagnetic Fields: The movement of charges generates electromagnetic fields. Understanding how these fields change with the dynamic distribution of charges is crucial in designing and analyzing electronic components and systems.

Material Properties: In materials science, how charges distribute dynamically within a material can significantly affect its electrical, optical, and magnetic properties. This is particularly relevant in the study of novel materials like semiconductors, superconductors, and nanomaterials.

Computational Modeling: Modeling dynamic charge distribution often involves complex calculations, typically requiring computational methods. These models help predict how a system will behave under various conditions.

Quantum Mechanics: At the microscopic level, quantum mechanics plays a role in understanding dynamic charge distribution, especially in materials where quantum effects are significant, like in quantum dots or nanoscale devices.

In summary, dynamic charge distribution is about understanding and predicting how charges move and redistribute over time in different systems and materials, which is crucial for the design and analysis of electronic devices and materials with specific electrical properties.

[Andy Chee]

ChatGPT (4)  has this to say....

In summary, dynamic charge distribution is about understanding and predicting how charges move and redistribute over time in different systems and materials, which is crucial for the design and analysis of electronic devices and materials with specific electrical properties.

Would appreciate a scientific journal citation, which ChatGPT is notorious for failing at.

For example, this ChatGPT failure which made up fictional law cases and presented them in its dialogue as actual evidence:
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/05/27/lawyer-uses-chatgpt-in-federal-court-and-it-goes-horribly-wrong/amp/

Of course, it’s the human lawyer submitting the case to court, who failed to check the references.

Granted, Myers doesn’t cite fictional evidence. But he doesn’t cite any evidence at all!

[Cyberdragon]

Tube guy here...

"A filament is like a solid state plasma..."

NO! In that sense, every metal is a "solid state plasma" until you vaporize and ionize it into actual plasma.

Look up "valance electrons" and "metallic bond electrons", that's how tubes work, they are not magic. This stuff has been known for over a hundred years.

Also, "capture electrode"? It's called a "plate" or "anode", and the filament is a "cathode".

And why are we shining light onto a capacitor? I mean lots of stuff exibits the photoelectric effect, but if that's the purpose then it's a photovoltaic cell, not a capacitor.

[BrokenYugo]

I like how most are quick to judge in a bad direction.. The truth will come with experiments so only time will tell!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[Haenk]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Or at least *any* evidence.

OK, back to work, need to do some fine-tuning on my Tachyon generator design, still not sure if I need to invert the Orgon waves or not...

[JohnG]

In short, it is not our responsibility to bend over backwards and entertain your ideas; it is your responsibility to study and learn the scientific process, to reject whatever systems of conspiracy theory have misled you; and to show that you have put in the effort, as we have.  In short, to show that a good-faith effort conversation will be worth the good-faith effort

Thanks, this sums things up very well. I think it applies to politics and religion as well.

Well, I'm off to do some "research". I'll be studying all the best recommended Youtube videos...

John