I have this problem right now when quoted for solar inverters.
I am going to request to switch the WIFI and "cloud" crap off all of them.
One wired, two of them have WIFI/RS485/USB with one WIFI only where you can only see the readings through an "app" to a "cloud" which is a big nono.
A company called Engensa tried this bullshit back in 2012 when they didn't want to sell me a Sunny web box which they eventually did that interfaced with the inverter to show me the readings and alerts but they wanted to sell me this crappy solution that would measure the differences between two meter readings to upload to some portal to tell that it is working okay but I remember that service being shut down some years after.
I tend to get very upset and angry when installers keep on telling me this:
Me: I want it wired up to my switch and does it have a basic built in webserver to show me the status and readings?
Installer: "It's "WIRELESS" and "SMART", we'll tell you where to go and what to do, first You have to create account, sign in, download an "app" on your phone, sign in to that... you need the cloud to access it, it's all cloud these days".
Assume I *only* a phone Bullsh*t
No! I do not want a stupid app, a mobile, broadband, WIFI, a webhosting/cloud or a series of finite things all depended on working in order to access it's current status on something that is right next to me, it is not smart it is very stupid!" I see all that as an optional extra which comes later if needed.
If I have no broadband or the service stops that's going to be useless isn't it?
Welcome To The Future, Where Your Microwave Thinks It’s A Steam Oven
It's not a human.
Can my internet enabled fridge be hacked? No, and you are out of milk …
Another point above... I don't trust having systems like communicate over wifi in a packed residential area.
Drone says: March 18, 2022 at 10:53 pm
OTA firmware updates, hmmm… the greedy MBA thinks. So if it’s out of warranty brick it, then charge ’em an arm and a leg to “fix” it. Icing on the cake is shifting the blame over to the engineers
I found this last night with Solar edge from two reviewers on trustplilot:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.solaredge.com?page=1Alison Meek 3 reviews GB Rated 1 out of 5 stars 2 days ago
Not fit for purpose
Our solar panel battery storage does not always store yet Solar Edge deny there is a problem and keep saying we need another software update. It is not fit for purpose and we are left with an expensive piece of rubbish. Now they have turned off the real time monitoring so we cannot check if it is storing or not - they would only do that if they knew there was a problem with their product. Shoddy product and appalling customer service. I regret paying £15k for this piece of garbage.
michael E 1 review US Rated 1 out of 5 stars Sep 28, 2021
unreliable and failing inverters and Terrible customer service
The inverter has failed three times, the last time it failed at the same time my monitoring app locked me out
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.solaredge.com?page=2Mischele Mccall 1 review US Rated 1 out of 5 stars Aug 7, 2021
Awful Service SolarEdge Inverter/Monitor Issues
Awful Service. Solar Edge invertor/monitoring system just doesn't work. We have been unable to monitor our system for a year. Solar Edge says, "contact installer"; the installer says, "contact Solar Edge. Bottom line upfront, I'm told, my system is producing power I simply cannot monitor the production due to Solar Edge inability to fix the inverter/monitor system which connects to the app. It has been a year of blame the other guy. I'm so tired of being pushed to the side. We paid for our system in "full", in "cash" and have had nothing but excuses from both parties. I'm leaving my name Mischele Anderson in the hope that someone in a position to help will do so.
Hamilton Richard 1 review US Rated 2 out of 5 stars Nov 13, 2020
You can't administer your own system.
I'm an electronic engineer and have designed inverters and solar monitoring software, knowledgeable of the industry and products. I have solar on 3 different homes and one of them is SolarEdge. I'm a consultant to other companies in the industry.
The inverters are ok and about as reliable as other companies. No major issues. Optimizers are not as reliable and may fail over time. My main issue is with the monitoring software (cloud portal). It is not as well designed as other manufacturers of systems, and has limited ability. My biggest problem is a restriction placed on customers by SolarEdge that DO NOT ALLOW a customer to set their own alerts for when there is a failure of a system component. And you don't have admin access to the portal even if you paid for the system and own it outright. SolarEdge controls what you can see or change. They INSIST the customer have a solar installer make any changes. Although customer support could easily do it, they won't.
This is the ONLY company that has this restriction. Other companies allow customers to easily set up email alerts or text alerts. Most solar installers will tell you they monitor your system, yet they don't. You need ability to set your own alerts. Otherwise, when a failure of a component occurs (and it will at some point), you will only find out about it when you are hit with a bit monthly electric bill. I suggest buying a system with a LOCAL monitoring box that you can access with a computer or has a separate in-house display.
How hard can it be to view your readings from your own equipment... sometimes you can see what's on the screen but need more insight with my previous system, type in the IP address in the we browser, username and password and there it works. I never had these problems before with the manufacturer restricting stuff and interfering over my rights and ability to use and access information from the equipment that is brought and paid for.