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Offline Non-Abelian

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Re: free energy
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2020, 03:13:23 am »
Wow! The Romans and Chinese and even the [ancient] Egyptions had electricity? Who knew? Did their civilizations fall because they couldn't pay the electric bill once the ruling classes started hogging all of the free energy to host all night orgies?
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Offline Haenk

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Re: free energy
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2020, 09:10:55 am »
Wow! The Romans and Chinese and even the [ancient] Egyptions had electricity? Who knew? Did their civilizations fall because they couldn't pay the electric bill once the ruling classes started hogging all of the free energy to host all night orgies?

Well, there you go:

https://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html
 
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Offline SiliconWizard

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Re: free energy
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2020, 06:32:11 pm »
Funny stuff. Apart from the yet-another-BS-perpetual-motion-generator factor, the meaning of "free" as far as energy is concerned is worth questioning, as a couple others have done above.

To begin with, something is "free", I guess, in the usual/familiar sense, if you don't have to "pay" for it. Of course, as someone has mentioned above, you still have to pay for the device that generates electricity from whatever source. And even if you exclude the initial cost in your definition of "free", there is still the maintenance, and eventually replacement costs. No physical device will function without any maintenance, and will last forever. So even if you find a free source of energy, tapping into it is NEVER free.

A good example of that is obviously solar energy. Solar radiation IS in itself "free" (at least until governments decide to tax it), but the devices to extract this energy into some useful form are definitely not free, definitely require some maintenance and won't last forever either.

It's both sad and funny to see that there still is a significant number of people who think perpetual motion could be a thing. Should be obvious *why* if you have some basic scientific education, but even if you don't, you can still consider the fact that absolutely nothing lasts forever in this universe, at least as far as we currently know. But you could reply that even that requires some basic knowledge.

Anyway, all those videos are not there to offer the world any solution (even if that was in a delusional attempt from their authors), but just to make views on Youtube, which, ironically, doesn't generate any electricity, but does consume a lot.

 

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Re: free energy
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2020, 06:58:51 pm »
Wow! The Romans and Chinese and even the [ancient] Egyptions had electricity? Who knew? Did their civilizations fall because they couldn't pay the electric bill once the ruling classes started hogging all of the free energy to host all night orgies?

Well, there you go:

https://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html

Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery
Note this is still very unclear what this was used for, or if it even was meant to generate electricity, or if it just happened to form some kind of battery without them knowing.
 

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Re: free energy
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2020, 09:34:27 pm »
Hey! Ease up on India. The last 4 engineers I've hired are all Indian and they're great! Being in the US, I wish I could get locals, but there aren't any. All the US kids are going to college to get a degree to be a "Manager". When asked what they want to "manage", they have no idea and of course have no STEM knowledge so it won't be anything useful.
 

Offline Non-Abelian

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Re: free energy
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2020, 10:45:33 pm »
Wow! The Romans and Chinese and even the [ancient] Egyptions had electricity? Who knew? Did their civilizations fall because they couldn't pay the electric bill once the ruling classes started hogging all of the free energy to host all night orgies?

Well, there you go:

https://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html

Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery
Note this is still very unclear what this was used for, or if it even was meant to generate electricity, or if it just happened to form some kind of battery without them knowing.
Probably wood or stone vibrators.
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Re: free energy
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2020, 01:50:53 am »
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the fact that absolutely nothing lasts forever in this universe

Energy does  :-DD
 

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Re: free energy
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2021, 04:09:40 am »
One look at that thing and it's obviously not able to self run.
The losses in it exceed any source of energy inside the system and it will run down and stop after a little whie.
This is FAR from a "free energy" device!
 


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