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[ Specified attachment is not available ]After the 9K Euros for a 1,25Mt speaker cable (standard copper wires coated with an infinite thin 85 microns of silver, the same audio response of a standard 50 Cents/meter copper wire), I discovered a mystique "cable burner" device.

"When cables are first put into use, their directionality is not securely established. However, once the Vidar begins running current through the cables, the trapped gases are dissipated and small impurities in the conductor’s metal begin to act like a diode, favoring current flow in a particular direction. By using extremely wide bandwidth signal as well as a range of both ultra-low and high frequency sweeps, the Vidar stresses the conductors, neutralizes charges, improves the way that signals pass through metal and  ultrasonically conditions the surface of the conductors. It is these changes in both the conductor and insulation material that refines performance in audio cables."

I will never cease to wonder how many silly things you can find in the audiophool market. Instead focusing on music they like and believing in their ears, most audiophools put their attention to technical specs without knowing not even a 1/100th of the physics involved, loosing the true meaning of music: emotions.

I wonder what effectively do this 5 volts 3K "device" that a cheap function generator can't do to a cable (and with the same results: nothing).

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 08:48:38 pm »
The purpose and function of this class of device are in fact very well known.  It's well established as an efficient and highly effective tool for separating credulous individuals from their money.  Don't forget to draw arrows on your CAT5s so the data knows which way to go. :-DD
 
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 08:57:58 pm »
This looks like an untapped and potentially very lucrative market for Leo... https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/yet-another-fast-edge-pulse-generator/

Just think how well 40ps edges propogating down the cables would align them. Of course the cables would need to be properly terminated - you wouldn't want the edges reflecting back in the opposite direction and confusing them!  ;D
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 09:00:11 pm »
But this has orange ICs!

the purpose of the device is to squeeze all the juice
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 09:03:09 pm »
Seriously, I would pay to be able to put an oscilloscope on the output of that thing and do a video about the results.
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 09:11:28 pm »
The *OTHER* purpose of a recommended burn-in period is to make it extremely unlikely (but not impossible) that the average audiophool listener will be able to complete the burn-in before their statuory right to a full refund expires.  |O

Now dealers can charge for the privilege of converting your new refundable cable into a used non-refundable cable!  :palm: >:D
 
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2017, 09:20:36 pm »
The *OTHER* purpose of a recommended burn-in period is to make it extremely unlikely (but not impossible) that the average audiophool listener will be able to complete the burn-in before their statuory right to a full refund expires.
:o never thought in that way before, now it's crystal clear
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 09:48:03 pm »
coated with an infinite thin 85 microns of silver,

85 microns is quite generous, 1oz PCB copper is only 35 microns.
Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2017, 09:49:09 pm »
But this has orange ICs!

Resistor networks - Bourns I think.
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2017, 09:58:38 pm »
Don't forget to draw arrows on your CAT5s so the data knows which way to go. :-DD

Fortunately the need to do this is at an end.

This month Underground Airlines is introducing its new Maxwell's Daemon Traffic DirectorTM. Just install a Maxwell's Daemon Traffic DirectorTM on your cables and the included Maxwell's Daemon will ensure that all electrons only go in the right direction. For a small monthly fee of $1000 Underground Airlines will ship you a regular replacement Daemon each quarter and you can return the used Daemon in the supplied packaging for refurbishment and feeding with our special grade Daemon food including Unobtainium and magnetic monopoles. Please specify if you require (1) Rock, (2) Easy Listening or (3) Classical music trained Daemons.
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2017, 10:32:40 pm »
This is some shitty layout.
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2017, 10:43:00 pm »
I'm an impoverished audioFILE forced to lower my standards as I can't afford the good stuff like Nordost Vidar   :-[

I use a Megger insulation tester set to 1000 volts DC to burn in my new cables or pump life back into vintage pre-audiophool standard copper flex
it firmly advises the audio electrons which way to travel 
as well as not speed too much on the super audio highway   and avoid hitting kangaroos 





 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2017, 10:49:32 pm »
I wonder if some of the components on that board don't do anything at all...
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2017, 10:57:33 pm »
And to think all this started with "thick wire is incrementally better than thin wire" for speakers, at power.

That's it.
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2017, 10:59:49 pm »
lol - comment section:
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the «directionality» of the cable reflects the souce end of the cable where the «floating ground wire» is connected – i.e. a drain wire whose purpose is to bring unwanted interference signals to ground so that it does NOT get to the output.
that's some prime bullshit there!

do they sell a deluxe model that actually uses turned-pin chipsockets? because that one looks like it's got stamped-contact 5c sockets!

look - the sign of a pro - ofc mains cable!  :clap:
http://www.nordost.com/ax-angel/power-cord.php

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The Ax Angel Power Cord delivers remarkable dynamic range, superior sound, and extremely low noise levels from your Pro Audio equipment
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2017, 11:04:30 pm »
I think that's a distinct possibility, yes.

I wonder if some of the components on that board don't do anything at all...
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2017, 11:15:06 pm »
I think that's a distinct possibility, yes.

I wonder if some of the components on that board don't do anything at all...
Ummm, no, all the components on that board do nothing at all...
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2017, 11:30:19 pm »
I think it's quite simple, Nordost should be locked up.

For a laugh have a very close look at the legs of the LEDs down the middle of the gold connectors.
CML+  That took much longer than I thought it would.
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2017, 11:37:01 pm »
I have a number of friends and neighbors who describe themselves as into audio and none of them are dumb enough to fall for any of this stuff.

Some of them have fairly expensive audio gear but usually for a reason. (professional involvement in music is one.)
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2017, 11:37:25 pm »
 :-DD What will they think of next..
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2017, 11:53:26 pm »
:-DD What will they think of next..

how about - ethernet cable!!   |O
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The Heimdall 2 Ethernet Cable allows hifi enthusiasts to integrate Network Attached Storage (NAS) devices and music streaming into their hifi systems, while simultaneously improving the sound quality.

let me be blunt, in most country's these fraudulent claims are illegal.
 
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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2017, 11:58:02 pm »
I feel like this is some sort of money laundering scheme. Some contractor set up an audio system in a government facility, and use this entity as a a supplier for a 50% kick back.

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 12:07:21 am »
it could be a front for something.
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 12:49:08 am »
Touché!     :-DD


I think that's a distinct possibility, yes.

I wonder if some of the components on that board don't do anything at all...
Ummm, no, all the components on that board do nothing at all...
 

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Re: I wonder what effectively does this audiophool "cable burn-in device"...
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 02:06:28 am »
Just what I've always wanted, cable with directional preference, for my audio AC audio signals, that prefer to flow in both directions equally. Which way should the cable's preference arrow point?   :palm:
 
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