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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2023, 02:07:24 am »
Boycott paid parking (especially the overcomplicated kind) if it is practical? As in park farther away and walk or bicycle the rest of the way.
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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2023, 02:48:46 am »
Boycott paid parking (especially the overcomplicated kind) if it is practical? As in park farther away and walk or bicycle the rest of the way.
Well that is kind of the point of parking fees, add a real cost to a limited resource so that it will be used "efficiently". Like toll roads.
 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2023, 08:22:32 am »
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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2023, 08:02:39 pm »
In my little village, it is the 4x4 drivers who will not spend two British pounds to park their fifty thousand British pound Range Rover Discos in a spacious car park next to the village shops. Instead, they park outside the village shops for free because, it is a human right for people with personalised number plates to park anywhere they want. And no, they are not putting a parking app on their phone because instead, they need to be talking on their mobile phone whilst driving around waiting for a vacant parking space. I am sure these same wealthy wankers good citizens exist in Australia and the USA?

I use the car park because it's always empty. I would gladly use a parking app. But only on a second 'burner' phone.

 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2023, 08:43:52 pm »
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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2023, 08:47:50 pm »
Have to say I quite like the Ringo app  >:D

I recall the 'brefore' times when you'd have to ensure you've got sufficient loose change to put in the machine (and always worry that it wouldn't give you a ticket anyway). You'd park, trundle off to find the machine, trundle back to the car to fix the ticket, etc. With the app there is none of that: park, go. If you let it, the app will even tell you where you are so you don't have to dick around with 4-digit parking IDs.

I was initially wary about putting an app on my phone, with visions of needing a different app for each car park. Resisted for a long while, but one day I had to park up at the local hospital and there was no getting away from it - either phone up some number (not an option for me) or use the app.

A straight-up benefit is you don't have to put in 3 hours worth of coins because hospital appointments are never on time or last 10 minutes. Just go for the minimum and if it runs out just extend it some more without even getting off your seat.

Another time I had to visit some shop in London and, via Google maps, found a car park a street away. Rolled up there on spec and the same app I use here paid for the parking there too. Just makes life a bit easier.

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2023, 09:03:20 pm »
Down here in the Southwest UK, many of the tiny coastal car parks have become pay-by-app. After all, it's piss easy for councils to put up a sign rather than bother with ticket machines, wardens et al.

Strangely, said car parks are usually at the bottom of a steep slope. Which often means no signal. |O
 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2023, 09:16:19 pm »
Down here in the Southwest UK, many of the tiny coastal car parks have become pay-by-app. After all, it's piss easy for councils to put up a sign rather than bother with ticket machines, wardens et al.

Strangely, said car parks are usually at the bottom of a steep slope. Which often means no signal. |O

What I find interesting is how do they enforce it and how does the ANPR communicate if there is no signal?
Unless there are cables for them hidden away somewhere.
 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2023, 09:19:43 pm »
Down here in the Southwest UK, many of the tiny coastal car parks have become pay-by-app. After all, it's piss easy for councils to put up a sign rather than bother with ticket machines, wardens et al.

Strangely, said car parks are usually at the bottom of a steep slope. Which often means no signal. |O

What I find interesting is how do they enforce it and how does the ANPR communicate if there is no signal?
Unless there are cables for them hidden away somewhere.
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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2023, 09:03:52 am »
What I find interesting is how do they enforce it and how does the ANPR communicate if there is no signal?
Unless there are cables for them hidden away somewhere.

They probably don't. The council has a roving man in a van for illegal or inconsiderate parking (e.g. on grass verges or passing places) which is a problem and most of the payment machines are now solar powered cellular connected Parkeon devices. It's the really remote places like here I was talking about (although to be fair looking at Streetview the pay sign seems to have gone since I was last there a couple of years ago).
 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2023, 12:54:16 am »
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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2023, 01:04:22 am »
Boycott paid parking (especially the overcomplicated kind) if it is practical? As in park farther away and walk or bicycle the rest of the way.
Well that is kind of the point of parking fees, add a real cost to a limited resource so that it will be used "efficiently". Like toll roads.

Having grown up in a town where paid parking was never a thing I go out of my way to avoid it, the whole concept just rubs me the wrong way. Out of the larger cities near me Seattle is rather car-hostile and has limited an expensive parking, Bellevue on the other hand has much nicer roads and ample free parking everywhere, and it's way cleaner and lower crime too so it's much nicer all around. The result is I avoid even going to Seattle unless I absolutely have to, instead I go to Bellevue and spend my money there. Parking is a cost of doing business, shops that provide adequate parking and don't nickle & dime me for it get my business.
 

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Re: IN-APP ONLY car parking insanity (UK)
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2023, 01:12:52 am »
Boycott paid parking (especially the overcomplicated kind) if it is practical? As in park farther away and walk or bicycle the rest of the way.
Well that is kind of the point of parking fees, add a real cost to a limited resource so that it will be used "efficiently". Like toll roads.

Having grown up in a town where paid parking was never a thing I go out of my way to avoid it, the whole concept just rubs me the wrong way. Out of the larger cities near me Seattle is rather car-hostile and has limited an expensive parking, Bellevue on the other hand has much nicer roads and ample free parking everywhere, and it's way cleaner and lower crime too so it's much nicer all around. The result is I avoid even going to Seattle unless I absolutely have to, instead I go to Bellevue and spend my money there. Parking is a cost of doing business, shops that provide adequate parking and don't nickle & dime me for it get my business.

In cities, parking is a bigger cost than you appreciate. So are roads, for that matter.
 


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