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OK Lawyers, Question:. Non Cloud Client requests lost data (hardware problems)
RJSV:
Hey, say you've heard that Google Cloud, for instance, will save portions of your stuff...photos etc. even in cases where, say, you own a Google device, camera etc but ARE NOT subscriber.
Heck, maybe they inform you of that, cryptically, that some data may be saved for diagnosing CLOUD system problems.
Seems fair, along with reasonable fees of course, that you can access your 'lost' deleted or due to hard drive fail,...considering that some big parent company, there, has a copy of 'Grandma', which some wouldn't like, considering privacy concerns.
Yeah I know about fine print, but supposing I'd wish to challenge that dynamic...
Lawyers ? Anybody have answers ?
(thanks)
Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: RJHayward on March 19, 2023, 09:59:32 pm --- Hey, say you've heard that Google Cloud, for instance, will save portions of your stuff...photos etc. even in cases where, say, you own a Google device, camera etc but ARE NOT subscriber.
Heck, maybe they inform you of that, cryptically, that some data may be saved for diagnosing CLOUD system problems.
Seems fair, along with reasonable fees of course, that you can access your 'lost' deleted or due to hard drive fail,...considering that some big parent company, there, has a copy of 'Grandma', which some wouldn't like, considering privacy concerns.
Yeah I know about fine print, but supposing I'd wish to challenge that dynamic...
Lawyers ? Anybody have answers ?
(thanks)
--- End quote ---
????? "but ARE NOT subscriber" /= "that you can access your 'lost'"
The words " a snowball's chance in hell" seems to be appropriate here. But MAYBE if you have a court order.
But my understanding is that that is one reason that Microsoft located their spy-ware data banks in Ireland was so that they would not be subject to US (what I heard) court orders. OTOH I have heard that there are a couple of divorce cases going on in the US where the plaintiff wants to see their spouses' E-mails, browsing history, etc and the judge in the case as ordered MS to produce them.
My 2 cents worth.
RJSV:
Thanks for comment.
To clarify, I'm trying to say that if a business entity is accumulating 'private' data, let's just say on a fictional 'Smith-Phone', including private family pictures, I.E. Grandma, now diseased, then...fair is fair;
Then that data could be recovered, even though there isn't a provider-client relation, 'formally'.
I say 'formally' because the other party is collecting the data outside of any deliberate relation. Rather, (I'm saying), that business entity, SmithPhones, has cleverly attempted to evade any relation. They just are going to collect (your data), and declare that the business has changed, by way of small print, in the original purchase.
Stray Electron:
OK now I understand what you were getting at. In that case I would say that the data is certainly recovered at least in part but by the company in question and their, ah hmm, "business partners". Call me pessimistic but I doubt that most of these companies even have the capability of recovering more or less all of your data and a business mechanism whereby they could return it to you. But I'm sure as hell that unless you are the local government, they're not going to recover someone else's data and return it to you. That would open them up to a world of lawsuits involving Invasions of Privacy and host of other issues. Maybe one day, but not yet. Perhaps after we're dead, they'll find, or probably create, some legal basis where they can sell our information to the whole world and not just to governments and to other data marketeers.
rteodor:
Soooo... let me understand please: the OS manufacturer has access to the hardware and can see a data storage failure approaching. Then it copies data without anybody knowing (but with legal backing in the ToS) then charge for giving it back. Isn't this a perfectly "legal ransomware" business opportunity ?
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