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PESKY WIKIPEDEA. and now YOUTUBE 'Changes Coming'... Yeah, ok

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james_s:
I don't think they will. All that would do is cause huge numbers of people to stop using Chrome. People who want to block ads are going to block ads, it does no good to try to force them not to.

MK14:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 16, 2021, 06:04:17 pm ---I don't think they will. All that would do is cause huge numbers of people to stop using Chrome. People who want to block ads are going to block ads, it does no good to try to force them not to.

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Some rumors say that you tube may start banning youtube users (viewers), who use ad-blockers, from their website and services (I guess).

Old article from Dec 2019:
https://techlapse.com/global/youtube-declared-war-on-ad-blockers-no-more-adblock-from-december-10/


--- Quote ---From December 10th you will no longer be able to use Adblock on YouTube: the announcement comes from Google itself, which is sending a notification to users who access its service.

Update: Youtube VS Adblock Update: Claims policy is transparent, yet it is vague

For years, YouTube has allowed the use of Adblock, or software that could bypass advertising content, on its platform. Now, however, YouTube has declared war on Adblocks, and above all on users who use them.

Adblock on YouTube: from December 10th everything changes
The new rules clearly state that:

” YouTube may prevent access if it believes, in its exclusive direction, that the provision of the Service for you is no longer commercially viable “

This means that Google, and YouTube, reserve the right not only to exclude users from the video streaming platform, but also to terminate the provision of all services. That  ” commercially viable” indicates the status of users as exchange products: YouTube offers literally billions of videos for free, apart from the YouTube Originals content that are behind a toll barrier (paywall).

Since no user pays a penny, neither YouTube nor its advertisers, it is logical to think that the product to be sold is us users. In exchange for viewing advertisements, YouTube continues to provide a service for free that would otherwise cost tens if not hundreds of dollars a year.

It is therefore logical to think that Adblocks on YouTube are bad for the company to eradicate. Users on the other hand, always try to have the most comfortable and easy access to video content.

The blame for using Adblock, however, is often to be attributed also to the creators of content: it is not possible that in an 18-minute video there are 10 advertising breaks, including the pre-roll videos that are uploaded before you even watch the video.

Adblock on YouTube: is the ban risk real?
The risk for users who continue to use Adblock on YouTube is real. The company can freely exclude accounts that try to circumvent the new rules, using Adblock software or Adblock extensions.

Risk concerning the complete ban for other Google services, such as Gmail and Adsense, is less likely.
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Much more recent, 10th December 2021:
https://securityboulevard.com/2021/12/google-nukes-ad-blockers-manifest-v3-is-coming/


--- Quote ---Google Nukes Ad-Blockers—Manifest V3 is Coming
by Richi Jennings on December 10, 2021
Makers of ad-blocker and anti-tracking browser extensions are spitting blood. Google is planning to change everything, removing features in the Chrome browser APIs that these extensions rely on.

Google is doing it in the name of security, privacy and performance. But extension writers—including the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)—smell a rat.
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Google's (Youtubes), recent removal of the DISLIKE feature, from users (making it only visible to the videos owner), seem to show that google/Youtube/Chrome, are moving in directions, which may be completely against users interests, wants, desires, feelings, etc.

tl;dr
The recent removal of being able to see the number of DISLIKES, on videos, is making it much harder to prejudge the quality of unknown videos, from unknown video channels. Tending to make me ignore videos like that, more and more.

magic:
In related news, Google discovers that TV was TV for a reason and becomes TV :D

For each user who is discouraged by lack of fair ratings, there is ten users who would have been discouraged by downvotes but now are not and will watch the crap.

MK14:

--- Quote from: magic on December 16, 2021, 08:53:21 pm ---In related news, Google discovers that TV was TV for a reason and becomes TV :D

For each user who is discouraged by lack of fair ratings, there is ten users who would have been discouraged by downvotes but now are not and will watch the crap.

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It was NOT just about what one watches, or not. When someone is giving advise about something, you can use the number of dislikes (or rather the ratio between that, positives and viewing figures), to get a rough guide/feel as to how serious/safe/accurate the advise is.

If it gets a huge number of down-votes, then perhaps there is something wrong with the technical accuracy of the video, and/or it is inaccurate, and many other possible problems with the video, are being highlighted.

On the one hand, it is not as bad as I feared it would be. There are other signs and ways, of getting a feel of how good/accurate/reliable the video is. But it tends to waste more of my time, and makes it harder to find the good content on youtube, amongst a huge sea, of not so good videos.

RJHayward:
   Hahaha; Wikipedia didn't step on my action, today:
Had clicked into WIKI, from an eevblog posting I was reading... Did another couple of checks, and no; things look back to normal (no persistant pleas for donations, that had been asking "Don't click away..."

   Not sure there, but NOW, YouTube putting themselves, front and lower center, offer 'free trial'.
.......wait ....oh, I guess that's for the paid movies.
But, as someone else mentioned recently here, there was no place to click the youtube AD 'X' to skip AD, and also started putting crap, on a 'behind' box. That box was kinda behind (the real) stuff, but kept sneaking out, sort-of, between the front and center box, and poking out, partially;
   "FREE TRIAL OFFER..FREE TRIAL OFFER.."
I had some word definitions I needed to look up, and you know, also, how folks can get all sidetracked, by lame interruptions you can't control.

   NOW, I'm not going to 'whine out' every nit picking freagan time I see it.   Maybe just a representative 'sampling'.

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