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Products => Dodgy Technology => Topic started by: Nonlinearplasma on June 02, 2022, 09:07:51 am
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Hello Everyone, Non Linear Plasma is a start up company looking to revolutionize the space exploration and energy industries by building a power source we can use to protect our craft, propel our craft and sustain life abroad our craft and planet.
Please visit www.nonlinearplasma.com (http://www.nonlinearplasma.com) for project and support information and progress update. The website is being updated with graphics from the telegram channel https://t.me/Nonlinearplasma (https://t.me/Nonlinearplasma) which has lots of visual aids and informatiom to understanding magnetic wave functions and how they work, should you wish to research further. We will hopefully go through many of them in this thread as we explore how Plasma flows inside a star and planet.
The patent pending plasmareactor is looking for crowdfunding support in order to start the R&D required to move new ideas like this forward. The patent has just been published and can be viewed at the link below.
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1)
https://givesendgo.com/plasmareactor (https://givesendgo.com/plasmareactor)
The objective of the plasma reactor is to utilize the Z-pinch effect on the poloidal axis of a plasma toroid, similar to that used in Tokamak fusion reactors. There are 2 major difference between the Plasmareactor and the Tokamax design; this can be found in the utilisation of the poloidal Z-pinch axis, and the method for extracting energy from the plasma. I wont insult your intelligence by telling you how fusion/fission and most power stations generate a pressure gradients to drive steam turbines.
This lead us to the revolutionary way that the plasmareactor extracts energy from the plasma rotating around the toroid. By turning 2 plasma currents (plasma flows like water to produce a current. Do not think electrical current, but apply the same laws) against each other so that the current becomes anti parallel we can produce an explosive pressure gradients from the dense plasma exiting the Z-pinch. Since parallel plasma currents attract, while anti parallel plasma currents repel. This is simply Coulomb's law applied to a plasma medium. As mentioned the pressure gradient produced by this non linear interaction between plasma currents can be "explosive" as you can read about in this paper, should you not believe me. Here is a link and quotes from the paper....
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island)
"when it is just before the nonlinear rapid growth phase"
"It was found that the magnetic island grows explosively with changing its structure and the localized plasma current"
The explosive growth in the plasma medium of the Plasmareactor will be feed into the turbine blade section between the internal rotating sphere, and the stationary external sphere. The kinetic energy from the rotating output shaft can then be used to generate electrical power. The common question asked is; where does the energy come from? I will provide this recent paper to help explain how our planet generates energy to over come the drag produced by the solar wind on our planets magnetic wing. https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299 (https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299)
I call it a wing because our planet is sailing around our star. If you know anything about airplanes or sail boats you will even see that the bowshock has an angle of attack to it. Tidal effects result from the pressure gradients produced by the magnetic wing, our understanding of gravity is all wrong. That doesnt matter here tho because engineers are only interested in how that information can help us build the future. Focus on the efficiency of energy extraction between fusion and Non Linear Plasma; how much input energy is need to generate the required pressure gradient to turn the generator? The Non Linear Plasma Reactor has no need to compress plasma to the point of fusion, reducing input energy drastically. Combined with the pressure gradients produced in a similar manner to the polar jets of a black hole, the plasma reactor will have no problem powering our civilization to the next level.
A quick look at the magnetic structure of the Sun as it changes from solar minimum to solar maximum will provide you with enough details to know that this is a serious project with serious goals. I will remind everyone that the scientific community has no working model for this process because they dont even have an idea to try, and NASA freely admits that this is ongoing research.
In the attached images of the 2 magnetic field structures between solar min & max, we can see that the Phase alignment between the quadrupoles of each toroidal plasma flow is changing between NSNSNS for solar min and NSSNNS for solar max. During solar maximum the like quadrupole repel each other forcing the field lines out of the star above and below the equator, this creates a similar magnetic set up to what is called the Penning trap. A design that won the inventor a Nobel peace prize. While during solar minimum the alignment of the quadrupoles produce what is called the plasma squatter man, where the plasma flows from the south pole to the north pole via the z pinch. We know that the sun rotates slower at the polar regions on the surface so this understanding of quadrupole alignment changing periodically can easily be demonstrated by a decent model. Or even inside your head if you can understand 3 dimensional motion.
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I can only upload 1 attachment at a time, since they are worth a thousand words, i will upload a few. Apologies.
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This is the quadrupole set up inside Earth. Important to understanding the future magnetic change of our planet. Slightly longer time scale than the Sun, most scientific literature would say its on a 12000 year cycle
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Stars, Planets and even Moons form from plasmoids in the magnetotail of the parent object. You're welcome to believe the moon managed to land in orbit while the Earth was travelling in a 1.1° helical orbit around the galactic plane, but i perfere looking at things logically. The plasmoid is the mechanism for "gravitational collapse" in star formation.
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Tidal effects are the result of density changes under the magnetic wing as it manipulates the solar wind. This process is almost identical to an airplane wing. Which again NASA admits that all current theorys on why can be proven wrong.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html (https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html)
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Atmospheric induction, toroid induces poloidal current at 90°, poloidal current induces hadley ferrel and polar cell current at 90°, which then induces the low and high pressure systems at 90° again. Electrical engineers have long known about the induction of current at 90° we use it to power our world.
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Believe it or not, ive been told by people claiming to be plasma physicist and a university lecturer claim that Earth does not have a quadrupole. Yet the magnetic declination map of the northern hemisphere clearly shows a quadrupole. This happens due to the 720° roll over the toroid in a single 360° rotation around it. The equatorial perspective of the magnetic structure is a dipole, while the poloidal perspective is a quadrupole.
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This is a 2 dimensional z pinch. The wave converging on the central axis is multiplied, which cause the water to shot up in the little spout. The toroid is a 3 dimensional wave with a similar results. This will be used to generate plasma current in the polidal axis of the Plasma Reactor which will then circulate around the turbine blades before returning to the south pole to complete the circuit. If this process is not making sense, look at the field lines in a magnet and the direction of the arrows though the center of the magnet.
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Similarly the magnetic wave produced by the toroid is converging on the polodial axis, magnetism propagates at the speed of light from source in all directions. This produces loops and nodes as the wave interact with itself in 3 dimensions. Here is a worth while video to watch https://youtu.be/pc93R2u3pjE
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Here we can see the loops and nodes produced around a magnet in ferrofluid
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This illustration shows the loops and nodes created by the interaction of the tidal wave and magnetic wave of our planet. This can not be explained by the current model and understanding of gravity and tidal forces.
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This graphic shows how vortices form from linear and nonlinear interactions around an axis. In 3 dimensions 2 concentric circles are parallel to the central axis and this is why centrifugal forces are produced as fluid rotates around an axis.
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Here we can see the difference between measuring a wave in 2 dimensions as opposed to the measurements of a 3 dimensional wave. The most important factor is the absence of the negative value of the wave peak to the central axis. Negative wave peaks can only exist in 2 dimensions and the energy value of the wave peak above the axis is not oscillating, but is actually rotating at a constant height above the axis of rotation in 3 dimensions. This is why when more than 1 wave peak meets they form loops and nodes. The node does not have the opposite energy level to the loop and therefore Maxwell's 2D mathimatical frame work does not correctly describe the waves produced by plasma. This is why we must save that gravity has no negative or opposite force. Even although it is also claimed that gravity is a sinusoidal wave which according to maxwells coordination system is measured with a negative value below the axis. Both cant be true.
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The big arrow on the right hand side image shows the pressure gradient produced by the polidal current inderaction with the vortex current rotating in the polar region at 90°. This expansion of the plasma medium will be used to rotate the plasma reactor to turn the potential energy of the plasma into kinetic energy. The potential energy can also be used to propel a space craft at speeds that will never be possible by burning hydrocarbons. This will open the door up to the asteriod belt for mining, which needs to happen to provide the raw materials for building crafts for deep space exploration. Although you may see this as many years away, its where we must aim for as we should all be aware that one day we will advance beyond our home planet. The only question in my mind is how long will it take us?
I must thank you for taking the time to read this post. I have tried to keep it short, sweet and as simple as i could. I understand money is tight in these trying times with energy becoming more expensive. You can help the project simply by sharing it with friends and family. There is no shortage of rich people in this world wanting to make a positive difference. We just have to show them that this will be a profitable investment beyond their wildest dreams. It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the 1 man that would be willing to invest large sums of money in order to get to Mars before he dies. Help me get it to him or someone like him and the cost of energy for you and your family will go down dramatically in the future. Until then there is much work to be done. Prototypes can be started as soon as funds become available to me.
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You had me (leaving) right after reading the first sentence.
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You had me (leaving) right after reading the first sentence.
Thats ok mate. Many other left quickly to im sure. Like responsible adults they didnt feel the need to tell everyone before doing so. But please inform everyone of what i said that made you so upset you couldnt just leave in a dignified manner? Was it hello?
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Can have have this moved to the "Dodgy" section please?
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Can have have this moved to the "Dodgy" section please?
How could you know its dodge without reading past the first sentence? Give others the chance to understand it. Mentioning the earth is spherical was once considered a crazy notion. I suppose the idea that humans view waves in 2 dimensions is a similar prospect. Do you believe we live in a 2 dimensional universe too? Thats why we have 2 eyes, we need the second eye for depth perception. Its difficult to measure a 3 dimensional wave with a 2 dimensional mathimatical framework. I suppose the peer reviewed literature that is attached doesnt mean anything to someone who cant read past the first sentence. Try asking a question if you want to understand whatever you dont instead of being immature, or simply leave. No one is forcing you to do anything.
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Agree, it's dodgy as. So you say in a rather casual way that you have solved nuclear fusion but somehow are wanting to use it to power a spacecraft? Sorry but you really are self defeating here. You have reported a post stating the obvious so now all mods are well aware of your commercial promotion on the forum. Normally I wold just delete the thread and ban you but this one looks like fun, I'll let it roll until someone gets too "ert".
And no, I did not make it to the end of your diatribe either. Games up, the more you play innocent the more people will rip the piss out of you!
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Agree, it's dodgy as. So you say in a rather casual way that you have solved nuclear fusion but somehow are wanting to use it to power a spacecraft? Sorry but you really are self defeating here. You have reported a post stating the obvious so now all mods are well aware of your commercial promotion on the forum. Normally I wold just delete the thread and ban you but this one looks like fun, I'll let it roll until someone gets too "ert".
And no, I did not make it to the end of your diatribe either. Games up, the more you play innocent the more people will rip the piss out of you!
No you completely miss understood it if you think this has anything to do with nuclear fusion. The pressure gradient that rotates the reactor comes from non linear plasma currents, in fission/fusion the turbine blades are normally turned from generating steam from exacting heat from the fusion reaction. Fusion has no method of generating a magnetic field, the sun has a magnetic field. This is produced by rotating charge around the toroid. An electrical coil produces a magnetic field by rotating charge around the copper conductor. Plasma toroids create a magnetic field by rotating the charged plasma around the toroid in an identical way. Fusion is a by product of this process. It is not the power source. Thats why we have been unsuccessful so far in producing a net gain from the energy required to compress the plasma to the point of fusion. This reactor has no need to compress the plasma that far as described before because it is not aiming to fusion the plasma together.
The best way to describe fusion would be to say that fusion is like turning the wheels of your car with the steam created from the coolant system.
Also the forum rules state crowdfunding is allowed. As is promoting new technology.
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crowdfunding is allowed, scams are at best (for you) laughed at and may get deleted when we get bored of your silliness.
In nature nothing is destroyed and nothing is created, that goes for energy and matter. So now you claim you have solved nuclear fusion but oh that is just a happy accident. Currently to sustain a fusion reaction more energy goes in than comes out. At what point exactly does your magical energy from nowhere appear?
And yes your thread has been removed to the appropriate section for it's ludicrous content :)
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Hello Everyone, Non Lin ... <SNIP> ... <SNIP> ... <SNIP> ... <SNIP>
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I am really ... REALLY interested, ... BUT ... rather than boring text and photos, please change your presentation in video, like this example below. :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2LvQUcwqc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2LvQUcwqc)
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I want a logarithmic case.
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crowdfunding is allowed, scams are at best (for you) laughed at and may get deleted when we get bored of your silliness.
In nature nothing is destroyed and nothing is created, that goes for energy and matter. So now you claim you have solved nuclear fusion but oh that is just a happy accident. Currently to sustain a fusion reaction more energy goes in than comes out. At what point exactly does your magical energy from nowhere appear?
And yes your thread has been removed to the appropriate section for it's ludicrous content :)
The MHD dynamo paper, published by someone other than myself 2 years after my patent was started and without knowledge of my patent shows that a self sustaining dynamo is produced by the rotation of the "superionic plasma" inside our planet. That was also attached had you spent the required time to understand the process. Yet again i will say this as simply as possible as it seems to be going in 1 ear and out the other so to speak. This is not the solution to FUSION. This is an entirely different approach to extracting energy from a plasma toroid.
Maybe it is a scam, we wont know until we try, thats why its called RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. So far every fusion reactor has been a scam, billions wasted for nothing. The fact of the matter is nobody has successful modelled the sun and this is the only idea that currently exists to my knowledge that even provides a mechanism for the magnetic field change in the Sun periodically to produce the solar cycle. I understand this is not a forum where ppl are interested in astrophysics. But being an electrical and mechanical engineer i figured i would give it a try to see if anyone could understand simple phase alighnment. Since we deal with current and voltage phase alighnment in every electrical power generation system everyday.
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I want a logarithmic case.
Uh .. oh ... that case, I bet you will be interested in this latest Turbo Encabulator version 2.0, yes, its now available in that great case capable of "quantic IOT", how cool is that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m84IoMeo3qE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m84IoMeo3qE)
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If thats the best "piss taking" you can do, this is going to be a breeze ;)
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Still there are questions left.
You generate the plasma like - "how"? By electricity? And then use the turbine to generate - electricity?
To my little knowledge, creating a plasma requires something-to-turn-into-plasma (easiest would be some gas), that needs to be carried around by a spaceship and eventually is lost, when your "engine" is used to produce thrust. I don't think space vacuum itself has enough plasma in it to be of any *local* use, i.e. generate thrust.
(The dual-use of the plasma is/might be interesting, however I can't see any useful application beyond proving it might work. Btw. you "historical flat earth believe" insult is just historically incorrect.)
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Have you Tweeted Elon Musk with this? This is in the realm of SpaceX++
Before breaking out the Dilithium crystals though, maybe you should bounce your concepts off the mega brains at Fermilab, not us mere EEs. https://www.fnal.gov (https://www.fnal.gov)
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Still there are questions left.
You generate the plasma like - "how"? By electricity? And then use the turbine to generate - electricity?
To my little knowledge, creating a plasma requires something-to-turn-into-plasma (easiest would be some gas), that needs to be carried around by a spaceship and eventually is lost, when your "engine" is used to produce thrust. I don't think space vacuum itself has enough plasma in it to be of any *local* use, i.e. generate thrust.
(The dual-use of the plasma is/might be interesting, however I can't see any useful application beyond proving it might work. Btw. you "historical flat earth believe" insult is just historically incorrect.)
Ofcourse there are questions left, thats what research and development is for, answering these questions. If you have heard of ITER, it is the most expensive attempt at fusion to date. It is not being designed to generate electricity. It is solely being designed as an experimental fusion reactor. Then if successful they will hopefully attempt another reactor to produce electricity. Still problems like how do you stop the walls of the reactor eating themselfs in the process of tranfereing heat from the fusion to the water to generate the pressure gradient to drive the turbine. I will have similar problems as plasma will attempt to eat the turbine blades as they pass by them. Hopefully due to the reduced density of the plasma this process will be slower than a tokamak fusion reactor.
Yes you will need to use electricity to turn the gas medium into a plasma with as high an ion density as possible, again this is what R&D is for. The turbine blades (if you look at the patent) are inbetween the internal sphere and external sphere. The reactor is the turbine. The objective is to create a toroid of superconducting plasma, once you have produced this the toroidal plasma current is a seperate current flow to the poloidal current flow that the reactor is forcing into the expansion pole (north) from here the plasma is forced into the turbine blades section which rotates the internal sphere. A deep space craft would likely have to carry multiple reactors. Seperate reactors for propulsion and electrical generation. This is due to the lose of plasma in the reactor which will obviously need the plasma to be replaced after using it as propellant. Still better than carrying oxygen and fuel, No? Gases such as hydrogen are fairly abundant throughout the solar system and easier to carry than hydrocarbons and oxygen. You can also increase the explosive force by burning the expanding hydrogen should it be required. However most exothermic reactions arent going to have the explosive power of for example the jets of a pulsar.
"Space vacuum" there is no such thing as a space vacuum. Electrostatic forces and coulomb's forces travel indefinitely away from source. The solar wind is a medium that creates drag on our planet, this can be seen by the bow shock and magnetotail, the energy to manipulate the magnetic field comes from the self sustaining superionic plasma rotating inside earth. The magic angle of superconduction is 1.1°, a double helical toroid such as those found at the center of a star happens to roll around the toroid at 1.1° due to procession. This is easily worked out by dividing 360 by 360, giving the angle of rotation around the toroid of 1° for plasma without including procession, The 0.1° has to do with the wave travelling backwards as it has to travel further than 360° in order to meet the particle that made it because the plasma particle is no longer at that location. This is procession. Earth is also travelling around the galaxy at 1.1°, once you understand that superconductivity is a helical wave with a trajectory of 1.1° it becomes easier to understand where the energy comes from to power the universe. One of the interesting facts about the sun is in the dip of gamma radiation coming from the sun. It is currently unexplained, it is simply caused by the perfect trajectory of plasma which results zero vibrations in the superconducting plasma toroid. As you can see with the pink squatter man, the electromagnetic waves (light) are produced at the boundary layers between plasma flows. This can be described as turbulent plasma flow, with laminar flow producing less electromagnetic waves.
Sorry its complicated, i cant help that.
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Have you Tweeted Elon Musk with this? This is in the realm of SpaceX++
Before breaking out the Dilithium crystals though, maybe you should bounce your concepts off the mega brains at Fermilab, not us mere EEs. https://www.fnal.gov (https://www.fnal.gov)
I havent yet mate. Im an electrical engineer and i think this is right up our street too. Just because plasma follows the exact same laws that we use to work with electrical current. Everyone of us knows that current travelling in the same direction attracts, as plasma accerlates it gets closer because of coulomb's law. This increases the density of the plasma. This is gravity, gravity is the control of density. Density and mass are similar, but mass is fixed, while density is changeable. If 2 plasma particles slow down they start to increase the distance between them. If they travel in opposite directions the dipoles repel each other at a rapid rate. This is the basic principal for all electrical current carrying coils of wire.
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Here is a NASA image of rotation speed on the surface of the sun. As you can see the equatorial region rotates faster. This is why the center toroids quadrupole lobes change periodically between NSNSNS & NSSNNS.
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I want a logarithmic case.
You mean like this?
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If thats the best "piss taking" you can do, this is going to be a breeze ;)
Oddly enough I have better things to do, but I'm sure others will provide the expected entertainment that I let the thread live for. If you want to make a dick of yourself then feel free to knock yourself out. We had a similar experience a few years ago with a guy that just straight faced talked crap for so long that the membership pleaded with me to lock the thread as they guy was not entertaining anymore. If I remember correctly in his frustration at not being able to convince people of his bollocks he got offensive.
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I had to double check the date, I thought it was April 1st for a moment...
Some of your technobabble almost makes sense, some is utterly incorrect/inappropriately used. Also, if you really want to convince people that you're serious, you should try proof-reading things before you post them.
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(it wasn't me who prayed for it to all make some kind of sense...)
I'd say "build a somewhat working prototype - then the money will flow in".
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I had to double check the date, I thought it was April 1st for a moment...
Some of your technobabble almost makes sense, some is utterly incorrect/inappropriately used. Also, if you really want to convince people that you're serious, you should try proof-reading things before you post them.
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Haha im dyslexic mate, proof reading doesnt work for me. Basically i read whats in my head not whats on the page. That is the joys of having an imagination that can view 3 dimensional waves from multiple perspectives at the same time and come up with inventions. If you want to understand the universe then you will have to put some serious work in, i will help those willing to put the work in until im blue in the face. But i have no time for laziness. If you expect the answers to star formation and magnetic changes to be easily understood, then someone would have done it already.
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(it wasn't me who prayed for it to all make some kind of sense...)
I'd say "build a somewhat working prototype - then the money will flow in".
Until then there is much work to be done. Prototypes can be started as soon as funds become available to me.
I know thats the plan as stated before. But 4 axis cnc machines and metal 3D printers arent cheap. R&D for this kind of project can be more than an electrical and mechanical engineer can earn in a lifetime.
Thanks for your time and i hope you will sleep on it and see if it comes to you. Rome wasnt built in a day and all that.
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I want to see your calculus in respect to the three laws of thermodynamics.
I bet, there is no such thing around, apart for some colourful but meaningless pictures.
But I have here a suggestion for you: if you want to increase the efficiency of your plasma reactor,
you need to add some Orgon devices. They will help, I'm sure.
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I had to double check the date, I thought it was April 1st for a moment...
Some of your technobabble almost makes sense, some is utterly incorrect/inappropriately used. Also, if you really want to convince people that you're serious, you should try proof-reading things before you post them.
Haha im dyslexic mate, proof reading doesnt work for me. Basically i read whats in my head not whats on the page. That is the joys of having an imagination that can view 3 dimensional waves from multiple perspectives at the same time and come up with inventions. If you want to understand the universe then you will have to put some serious work in, i will help those willing to put the work in until im blue in the face. But i have no time for laziness. If you expect the answers to star formation and magnetic changes to be easily understood, then someone would have done it already.
:palm: You obviously have not been in engineering long enough to understand that many of us and often the more brilliant have a so called learning disability and yet manage to communicate with similarly intelligent people without issue. Not knowing how to spell (spell checkers are built into everything) and uttering crap are two different dis/abilities. One is to have the inability to ever remember how to spell many words and I can put my hand up to that but also put my hand up to much proof reading and using spell checkers and the other is incompetence in the field you claim toa be an expert in or your ability to babble crap that will convince anyone but another engineer. I think you picked the wrong place to post this, maybe try Facebook, twitter or Elon Musk's next presentation to whooping fans (dim employees).
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Pulls the reverse uno card...
If you need a software engineer, let me know. My credentials involve interpreting the ramblings of mad computer scientists and business analysts and turning them into something usable. I think we'd get along well. I charge out at £1200 a day, min 60 days up front. I will let you know your requirements are credible after you've wired the full amount to my bitcoin wallet.
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I had to double check the date, I thought it was April 1st for a moment...
:palm: You obviously have not been in engineering long enough to understand that many of us and often the more brilliant have a so called learning disability and yet manage to communicate with similarly intelligent people without issue. Not knowing how to spell (spell checkers are built into everything) and uttering crap are two different dis/abilities. One is to have the inability to ever remember how to spell many words and I can put my hand up to that but also put my hand up to much proof reading and using spell checkers and the other is incompetence in the field you claim toa be an expert in or your ability to babble crap that will convince anyone but another engineer. I think you picked the wrong place to post this, maybe try Facebook, twitter or Elon Musk's next presentation to whooping fans (dim employees).
I have been an engineer long enough to figure out the difference between a north and south pole. I suppose the question is have you?
I will include a simplier diagram this time because i sometimes forget that the fundamental of electromagnetism arent as well understood as they should be and the basics are missed.
Im sure you are super smart buddy, im sure you have many inventions and patents to your name and all them "dim employees" have nothing on you. All i can say is good luck with the magnet question.
The answer is below but you can always try and figure it out for yourself if you want.
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Just to be clear the north pole observer views the uniform rotation of a magnet as clockwise while the south pole observer views anti clockwise, since the terms positive and negative are products of passing either pole of a magnet passed a conductor and in doing so spin the wave functions (atoms) that make up the conductor according to the direction of rotation of the pole passing the conductor.
With D.C current the dipoles remain fixed to the axis of rotation with the change in the magnetic field coming from the quadrupoles inside either dipole, monopoles dont exist even inside either end of a dipole.
A.C current rolls the dipole around 180° switching the perspective of rotation to the frame of reference, this puts the dipole at 90° to the axis of rotation momentarily, this increases the strength of the "magnetic field" produced by A.C current over D.C. since D.C only rotates the weaker quadrupoles while the dipoles remain fixed to the axis of rotation.
The electric field and magnetic field are showing us the change in rotation as the wave function rotates. The changing fields in DC comes from the observer seeing the qrudrupoles going from red to blue, while in A.C the changing field comes from the dipole rolling around the axis of rotation. Since the dipole is bigger and stronger than the quadrupoles we have found the reason why tesla won the battle over Edison.
I will include the wave function of a simply hydrogen atom, all atoms rotate around an axis and although the wave functions become more complex, they still produce a dipole and a multipole inside either dipole. It better to keep thing simply by using the hydrogen wave function. Plus its the only wave function to be modelled thus far. Notice it produces the same quadrupole and dipole structure that we find on planets and stars such as the earth and sun. A quick look at saturns polar region shows that it is slightly unique in its sextupole that forms the hexagonal polar flows around its poloidal axis.
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If you expect the answers to star formation and magnetic changes to be easily understood, then someone would have done it already.
This sentence, such as it is, makes no sense. Star formation and "magnetic changes" are very different subjects. The broad strokes of either are, in fact, quite easily understood. Hence, someone has done it already.
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No, I cannot make it, reading, past 3 minute mark.
Usually, generally, a document chocko-block FULL, of
numerous TECH terminology, every 3rd word, is Goat-Manure. (Now you've got me abusing nice goats.)
It's like, those FUSION offshoots, interstitial zone, in your STEM Modulated transacilliary member, was related, by the Massachusetts energy initiative, of 2014, relates to error-prone 'semi' torsion never could work, outside of a proper gnd.isolating star topography, really, ...just wasting anyone's time, but that's OK.
(I answer SPAM cellphone calls too).
Please don't REPLY. pleaasz
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Question for the OP/Nonlinearplasma?
If your ********************?, has got any merit. How come, other place(s) on the internet, don't seem too impressed with it?
E.g. Here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3694697-can-mhd-create-everything-fusion-cant
Seeming to end up with a moderator/administrator, saying:
Thread closed
You then seemed to ignore their instructions, and continued to attempt to restart that or a similar thread.
Here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3695940-earths-liquid-core-self-sustaining-dynamo-is-attained
Which seems to have got rather over the top (understatement, at best), at my very quick glance at what you were trying to say.
E.g. You said stuff like:
i wont be providing further "prove", as i said before mainstream is way too far behind
Which would seem to make you sound like, someone who is partly/fully ignoring the well established body of science knowledge, built up over a long period of time.
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It's about time this research stops... I refuse to stay silent any longer.
After years of working on this, I was admitted to the board and tasked with evaluating the instability of the potential energy traps that were capturing the particles used for determining the accuracy of the wave functions we had been using for predicting the vortex's initial behavior. What we discovered early on was that the uncertainty of the inter-particle collisions had been heavily influenced by the lack of coherence within the apparatus resulting from gravitational waves emanating from black hole collisions in deep space. It was, in essence, the uncertainty principle working against us, but influenced not by our measurements, but by the interaction of our particles with existing waves travelling through space. We thought we were beat until one of our colleges suggested using a technique similar to interferometry, but rather than a straight line, passing the incident photons through a spinning gas medium of varying density utilizing a circular refractive path that effectively extended the distance traveled well beyond what would be practical in a linear accelerator, but in a space small enough to essentially eliminate the effects of the passing gravitational waves.
As our testing continued, it was determined that the tests themselves had been affecting gravity on a minute level in the vicinity of the apparatus, presumably due to the extreme compression of the ions coupled with their extreme spin velocity in the plasma, and that these seemingly inconsequential changes were acting upon the human body in a detrimental way that has yet to be understood nor investigated. In particular, it was noted that everyone involved in these particular experiments were suffering from migraines and symptoms associated with the early onset of dementia, none of which have completely gone away. When my team reported these findings, we were immediately terminated and reminded of our confidentiality agreements, to which I can only say, humanity is more important than money ever will be...
The name of a company can change, but truth doesn't go away.
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Question for the OP/Nonlinearplasma?
If your ********************?, has got any merit. How come, other place(s) on the internet, don't seem too impressed with it?
E.g. Here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3694697-can-mhd-create-everything-fusion-cant
Seeming to end up with a moderator/administrator, saying:
Thread closed
You then seemed to ignore their instructions, and continued to attempt to restart that or a similar thread.
Here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3695940-earths-liquid-core-self-sustaining-dynamo-is-attained
Which seems to have got rather over the top (understatement, at best), at my very quick glance at what you were trying to say.
E.g. You said stuff like:
i wont be providing further "prove", as i said before mainstream is way too far behind
Which would seem to make you sound like, someone who is partly/fully ignoring the well established body of science knowledge, built up over a long period of time.
You will notice they claimed that i had no supporting evidence for the "energy source" so they closed the thread. Banned me until the 7th pf may, on the 6th of may the MHD self sustaining dynamo paper was realeased giving my thread the prove that i was correct in saying that a toroidal dynamo can provide the energy to power our planet. I turns out once ppl call you all the names under the sun and attempt to make you look stupid and then they get proven wrong by their own acedemic process that just happens to be 2 years behind me, actually more because they still havent figured out how the quadrupoles are produced.
Did you find it funny they claim the magnetic field on earth is caused by the dynamo effect, yet tell me im wrong and im not allowed to say that its caused by a toroidal dyanmo? Cant help stupid
The funniest moment of that thread for me was from someone saying the earth core is a sphere not a toroid. Not realising that a toroid can be a sphere with the added bonus of a poloidal axis. Spheres have no poloidal axis, but earth clearly does. I made him up a picture covering the solid core in the dynamo theory illustration with a toroid. It was gold.
Lets ask a basic question of that model in the picture attached. Why is the convection currents that supposedly produce the magnetic field travelling from 1 pole to the other, shouldnt convection current rise away from the source of heat? Which in this case should be the sold core. Its so bad i cant help but laugh.
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If you expect the answers to star formation and magnetic changes to be easily understood, then someone would have done it already.
This sentence, such as it is, makes no sense. Star formation and "magnetic changes" are very different subjects. The broad strokes of either are, in fact, quite easily understood. Hence, someone has done it already.
They arent different subjects, again you havent did your homework. Stars are formed by plasmoids. Gravitional collapse had no mechanism, and for that reason we couldnt even model it.
Magnetic changes that occur during solar min and solar max are definently not understood, saying so is mind blowing given the fact NASA say it is "ongoing research" on their website and again have no mechanism for the process, hence the lack of a working model. The same can be said of the tidal and weather models. Ive sailed 20000nm and halfway around the world , dont bother telling me the tidal model is correct. Every sailor in the sourthern hemisphere knows about NZ. Hint thats where the model fails so badly even the avg joe knows about it. I can give you the name of a sailing school to ask if you wish.
The famous saying goes, it does not matter who you are if the model doesnt match reality you are wrong. They had to add dark matter for a reason, the funny thing is superconducting plasma is dark, since its perfect trajectory of 1.1° around an axis produces zero vibrations, aka electromagnetic waves.
Have you seen the research into the magic angle? Remember they told you that a "spinning charged particle of mass" aka the electron travels in a straight line inside a conductor, yet superconductivity requires a 1.1° trajectory. I would assume knowledge like that would interest EE's. Might be worth asking why it has a trajectory of 1.1° next time.
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It's about time this research stops... I refuse to stay silent any longer.
The name of a company can change, but truth doesn't go away.
Ive never had another company, i have no idea who you talking about. Ive been sailing since i was 25 working in mining, oil and gas and renewable energy. I have never done any of the research you are talking about. If you have research you think is relevent to vortex structures then fell free to share it.
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It's about time this research stops... I refuse to stay silent any longer.
After years of working on this, I was admitted to the board and tasked with evaluating the instability of the potential energy traps that were capturing the particles used for determining the accuracy of the wave functions we had been using for predicting the vortex's initial behavior. What we discovered early on was that the uncertainty of the inter-particle collisions had been heavily influenced by the lack of coherence within the apparatus resulting from gravitational waves emanating from black hole collisions in deep space. It was, in essence, the uncertainty principle working against us, but influenced not by our measurements, but by the interaction of our particles with existing waves travelling through space. We thought we were beat until one of our colleges suggested using a technique similar to interferometry, but rather than a straight line, passing the incident photons through a spinning gas medium of varying density utilizing a circular refractive path that effectively extended the distance traveled well beyond what would be practical in a linear accelerator, but in a space small enough to essentially eliminate the effects of the passing gravitational waves.
As our testing continued, it was determined that the tests themselves had been affecting gravity on a minute level in the vicinity of the apparatus, presumably due to the extreme compression of the ions coupled with their extreme spin velocity in the plasma, and that these seemingly inconsequential changes were acting upon the human body in a detrimental way that has yet to be understood nor investigated. In particular, it was noted that everyone involved in these particular experiments were suffering from migraines and symptoms associated with the early onset of dementia, none of which have completely gone away. When my team reported these findings, we were immediately terminated and reminded of our confidentiality agreements, to which I can only say, humanity is more important than money ever will be...
The name of a company can change, but truth doesn't go away.
He could call himself Theranos
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He could call himself Theranos
I assume you need more time to figure out the difference between the poles of a magnet?
Did you see this graphic? it might help you understand the 3 dimensional nature of the universe.
P.s. i only added the txt, i believe the orginal image was done by NASA, notice the helical trajector of the magnetic wave. If the term magnetic wave is to much technical jargon for you i suggest listening to the great eric laithwaite talking, he was one of the greatest EE since probably Tesla. I stole the term from him, he sometimes uses magnetic river, which is also a good description of the phenomenon. He has great lectures on yt if you actually want to understand electromagnetism.
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Here is another NASA image, notice the direction of current in relation to the ion direction.
The same process happens inside the toroid, plasma particles go 1 direction, while the wave current goes the opposite way. When the trajectory is 1.1° we have ourselfs a self sustaining superconducting toroid.
Sorry im trying to use simple terminology, it is hard and i know they are big words but they are still easily understood and well defined.
I once asked a plasma physicist to define charge to me, he said that which is non neutral. Image using the measurement scale to define something. Can any of you do better? How would you define charge?
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Here is another NASA image, notice the direction of current in relation to the ion direction.
The same process happens inside the toroid, plasma particles go 1 direction, while the wave current goes the opposite way. When the trajectory is 1.1° we have ourselfs a self sustaining superconducting toroid.
Sorry im trying to use simple terminology, it is hard and i know they are big words but they are still easily understood and well defined.
I once asked a plasma physicist to define charge to me, he said that which is non neutral. Image using the measurement scale to define something. Can any of you do better? How would you define charge?
Can you please use the non simple terminology then. I think we can cope with it.
I mean throw some mathematics on the table. If I remember you can embed LaTeX in the forum.
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Do you have a functional prototype?
No? I guess the Star Trek technical manuals contain better physics information than these posts. FYI real physicist worked on those to make sure that the technical info in it is up to date, and then they added the technobabble to it.
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It seems to me that you need to go and find a forum of more gullible people. You're not even holding your own in the Dodgy Technology scam section. :horse:
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Do you have a functional prototype?
No? I guess the Star Trek technical manuals contain better physics information than these posts. FYI real physicist worked on those to make sure that the technical info in it is up to date, and then they added the technobabble to it.
This has been previously stated. Try reading prior posts please.
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I tried. I couldn't get through more than half a page because (http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/mnemennth/vomit.gif).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHVTcdp7Ps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHVTcdp7Ps)
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It seems to me that you need to go and find a forum of more gullible people. You're not even holding your own in the Dodgy Technology scam section. :horse:
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I figured coulomb's law would be a well understood principle in this forum. Whats is difficult about parallel currents attract and anti parallel currents repel?
Do you understand opposites attracting and like poles repelling? I assume you understand what the dot inside the circle means and the cross inside the circle means?. It is fairly common method of showing current direction in the 3rd dimension on a flat piece of paper. Remember the electron wants to travel with a trajectory of 1.1° as shown by the magic angle research. Now apply this absolutely basic concept to the flight trajectory of 2 plasma particles. Since both particles are said to be charged the same forces are at work. Or do you claim the Positive and negative charges dont follow the same laws?
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Can you please use the non simple terminology then. I think we can cope with it.
I mean throw some mathematics on the table. If I remember you can embed LaTeX in the forum.
I throw the math on the table. What is difficult about understanding the energy under a wave peak in 3 dimensions has no negative to the central axis of rotation. I uploaded a picture explaining this at the very start. I will upload a different 1 this time with less info on it to make it easier to see.
Ask yourself does the magnetic field sine wave and electric field sine wave share a common axis?
Obviously since the mag field and elect field are perpendicular to each other and therefore they do share a common axis. The problem is these 2 dimensional waves are measuring a 3 dimensional wave in a 3 dimensional universe. Claiming this is not true is the equivalent of saying the earth is flat to me.
So as we can see any 3 dimensional wave peaks energy value only oscillates to the outside observer. The central axis observer does not have the ability to view a negative mathimatical value in either x or y axis.
In order to mathimatical cordinate a 3D wave the CNC system should be employed. Its fairly basic and works well since we can cut helical augers for screw compressors for example. If maxwells system was employed to do the same job we would need a supercomputer just to cut an inch along the z axis. The z axis is the central axis. Maxwell used degress to measure this axis. Even although its clearly a distance measurement that is commonly measured in nanometers. The term wavelength should confirm this.
In electromagnetism we say that the positive and negative components of a wave cancel out around the central axis. Unfortunately this is not the reality for plasma (or electromagnetism since it also operates in 3 dimensions), this is why we call the merging of 2 peaks loops and nodes depending on the phase the waves are in as they meet. The energy level of the wave is never opposite to the peak in the trough. It is just less energy, or more energy. This is the failure of using the negative mathimatical value to measure sinusoidal waves. Hope this helps you.
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This reminds be of Professor Eric Laithwaite falling into the trap of believing Alex Jones's ill-conceived reactionless gyroscopic drive idea. He was a great and inventive man (maglev) and it screwed his career.
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@nonlinearplasma This is not a project for a garage start up. Yes you want to change the world but to do that and, to attract serious investors, your project requires peer review by at least one major academic institution. May I suggest you go back to uni and master in electromagnetodynamics, or similar. As a PhD student, you will have access to hardware resources that no start up could find on ebay, plus have the expertise of the physics community to call upon. Then, when investors line up, they will have confidence in the projects true potential. And you'll have someone to pay the electricty bill from making all of that plasma.
@simon You know what to do.
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This reminds be of Professor Eric Laithwaite falling into the trap of believing Alex Jones's ill-conceived reactionless gyroscopic drive idea. He was a great and inventive man (maglev) and it screwed his career.
I would disagree that it screwed his career, the man was a genius. It just takes the rest a long time to catch up. We are still trying to catch up to tesla genius too.
As for the gryoscope, it is rotating inside a magnetic field. Like any conductor rotating inside a magnetic field, a current is induced. We generally call them eddy currents. That is why Eric could swing that heavy weight over his head like it was nothing. The current produces a magnetic field which makes the flywheel levitate every so slightly. As proven by Sandy Kidds invention.
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So you believe in reactionless gyroscopic drive too?
... and it (precession) is nothing to do with magnetic fields. ::)
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I throw the math on the table.
That wasn't mathematics. I didn't see a vector, a tensor, an integral or a proof anywhere.
There is an understanding framework that these ideas are communicated in that you have not attempted to utilise.
I suspect if you attempt to apply it to the problem rather than the abstract ramblings, it will bring you back to reality as harshly as you need to be brought back.
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If you expect the answers to star formation and magnetic changes to be easily understood, then someone would have done it already.
This sentence, such as it is, makes no sense. Star formation and "magnetic changes" are very different subjects. The broad strokes of either are, in fact, quite easily understood. Hence, someone has done it already.
They arent different subjects, again you havent did your homework. Stars are formed by plasmoids. Gravitional collapse had no mechanism, and for that reason we couldnt even model it.
Magnetic changes that occur during solar min and solar max are definently not understood, saying so is mind blowing given the fact NASA say it is "ongoing research" on their website and again have no mechanism for the process, hence the lack of a working model. The same can be said of the tidal and weather models. Ive sailed 20000nm and halfway around the world , dont bother telling me the tidal model is correct. Every sailor in the sourthern hemisphere knows about NZ. Hint thats where the model fails so badly even the avg joe knows about it. I can give you the name of a sailing school to ask if you wish.
The famous saying goes, it does not matter who you are if the model doesnt match reality you are wrong. They had to add dark matter for a reason, the funny thing is superconducting plasma is dark, since its perfect trajectory of 1.1° around an axis produces zero vibrations, aka electromagnetic waves.
Have you seen the research into the magic angle? Remember they told you that a "spinning charged particle of mass" aka the electron travels in a straight line inside a conductor, yet superconductivity requires a 1.1° trajectory. I would assume knowledge like that would interest EE's. Might be worth asking why it has a trajectory of 1.1° next time.
In fact gravitational collapse is the current mainstream understanding of how stars form. Yes, magnetic influences have a part to play after the initial stages, but they are not the main factor by any stretch of the imagination.
Dark matter and dark energy are needed for other cosmological reasons, nothing to do directly with star formation.
Talk pseudo-science here and you will get called out.
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@nonlinearplasma This is not a project for a garage start up. Yes you want to change the world but to do that and, to attract serious investors, your project requires peer review by at least one major academic institution. May I suggest you go back to uni and master in electromagnetodynamics, or similar. As a PhD student, you will have access to hardware resources that no start up could find on ebay, plus have the expertise of the physics community to call upon. Then, when investors line up, they will have confidence in the projects true potential. And you'll have someone to pay the electricty bill from making all of that plasma.
@simon You know what to do.
Are you begging the ministry of truth to silence all debate. No wonder the world cant progress. Im an engineer. The peer review process is not designed for engineers, we have what is called the patent process. No decent engineer would admit to having peers that arent other engineers. We built the world.
Look above at the names. James Watt, Tesla, Eric Laithwaite. All engineers and all with a massive impact on the world we live in. Thats not to say physicists dont contribute, but i would say engineers contribute a considerable amount more.
I agree the peer review process would add credibility, and i figured i would give the engineers a chance first. Disappointed they had the same attitude to the astrophysics forums. It would be nice to see inquisitive questions, instead of very poor insults. Like not even funny insults.
Im surprised no one asked about superconductivity here, esp when the trajectory has been found clear as day and shown to you by me and acedemia.
Close it if you want, i have lost nothing. I still own my patent.
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In fact gravitational collapse is the current mainstream understanding of how stars form. Yes, magnetic influences have a part to play after the initial stages, but they are not the main factor by any stretch of the imagination.
Dark matter and dark energy are needed for other cosmological reasons, nothing to do directly with star formation.
Talk pseudo-science here and you will get called out.
Can anyone explain the mechanism for gravitional collapse to you. Why does it suddenly happen?
Are you claiming plasmoids do not form in the magnetotail? Again i will include the illustration. Showing you where they form. Is there any observational evidence to suggest that the plasmoid forms in the same place that moon, planet or star orbits its parent object.
What would it take for planets to form? Does gravitational collapse create perfect spheres with a poloidal axis and magnetic field for them 2?
The only pseudoscience is that of the ppl adding to the theory long after the orginal idea had been disproven. One of the fathers of electrical engineering (Tesla) said Einstein was a crackpot. I tend to respect tesla due to his contribution and the fact he was alive at the same time and i wasnt.
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I throw the math on the table.
That wasn't mathematics. I didn't see a vector, a tensor, an integral or a proof anywhere.
There is an understanding framework that these ideas are communicated in that you have not attempted to utilise.
I suspect if you attempt to apply it to the problem rather than the abstract ramblings, it will bring you back to reality as harshly as you need to be brought back.
So the negative value of energy of the wave in 3 dimensions. What should we do with it when it reaches a second axis of rotation. The waves around a toroid or coil can only cancel out to the axis they themselfs are rotating around. The second polodial axis is not the central axis to the wave. How should we measure the negative value when it reaches that axis?
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Does gravitational collapse create perfect spheres with a poloidal axis and magnetic field for them 2?
Does your theory explain the formation of planets that have no magnetic field? And what, perfect spheres? What perfect spheres?
Tesla was a genius. He was also well known for wasting other people's money on impractical pseudo-science projects, and in modern times would likely have extracted large amounts of money from gullible people using crowd funding sites, with predictable results.
Science works because theories can be empirically tested, which is why Einstein's theories are still accepted (they are not yet disproved), and Tesla's wireless power transmission continues to exist only in the minds of those who don't understand the maths.
You have been asked more than once to show us your mathematical workings out, but instead you prefer to show CG images of magnetic fields. Until you can provide some actual maths, no-one here will take anything you say seriously.
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No mathematics in sight, only meaningless graphics and gibberish writing.
Still no vectors, tensors, matrices or differentials.
Not to speak of Maxwell equations.
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No mathematics in sight, only meaningless graphics and gibberish writing.
Still no vectors, tensors, matrices or differentials.
Not to speak of Maxwell equations.
Sinusoidal waves are difficult to mathimatical model in 3 dimensions. Im using a 5 year old samsung tablet, if it was easy to mathimatical model 3 dimensional waves it would require a supercomputer. If you cant understand that the negative value below the axis of a 2 dimensional waves is irrelevant to a wave travelling away from source in 3 dimensions then the math isnt going to help you.
Is a gravitational wave generally described or shown as a sinusoidal wave? Does gravity have a negative or opposite force or not? You cant have it both. Thats the true pseudoscience we are dealing with. Either gravity has no negative and it therefore cant be a sinusoidal wave.
Consider the central observer on the poloidal axis as that of a bridge rectifier. Its as simple as that. Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
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No mathematics in sight, only meaningless graphics and gibberish writing.
Still no vectors, tensors, matrices or differentials.
Not to speak of Maxwell equations.
Sinusoidal waves are difficult to mathimatical model in 3 dimensions. Im using a 5 year old samsung tablet, if it was easy to mathimatical model 3 dimensional waves it would require a supercomputer. If you cant understand that the negative value below the axis of a 2 dimensional waves is irrelevant to a wave travelling away from source in 3 dimensions then the math isnt going to help you.
Is a gravitational wave generally described or shown as a sinusoidal wave? Does gravity have a negative or opposite force or not? You cant have it both. Thats the true pseudoscience we are dealing with. Either gravity has no negative and it therefore cant be a sinusoidal wave.
Consider the central observer on the poloidal axis as that of a bridge rectifier. Its as simple as that. Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter.
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Does gravitational collapse create perfect spheres with a poloidal axis and magnetic field for them 2?
Does your theory explain the formation of planets that have no magnetic field? And what, perfect spheres? What perfect spheres?
Tesla was a genius. He was also well known for wasting other people's money on impractical pseudo-science projects, and in modern times would likely have extracted large amounts of money from gullible people using crowd funding sites, with predictable results.
Science works because theories can be empirically tested, which is why Einstein's theories are still accepted (they are not yet disproved), and Tesla's wireless power transmission continues to exist only in the minds of those who don't understand the maths.
You have been asked more than once to show us your mathematical workings out, but instead you prefer to show CG images of magnetic fields. Until you can provide some actual maths, no-one here will take anything you say seriously.
Yes, spherical toroids produce very weak magnetic fields. The flatter and more donut shaped toroids produce stronger magnetic fields.
Gravity is the combination of every individual plasma particle wave that is travelling around the toroid. Since every particle has an opposite to the R1 axis (equatorial axis of toroid above) they cancel each other out just like 3 phase electrical waves do when added together. However the poloidal axis creates a z pinch where the waves meet and form an exponential wave peak. This has been modelled plenty. I will include a picture of the model below. As stated the central polodial axis is like a bridge rectifier to the sinusoidal wave of AC, this is what we call the z pinch.
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No mathematics in sight, only meaningless graphics and gibberish writing.
Still no vectors, tensors, matrices or differentials.
Not to speak of Maxwell equations.
Sinusoidal waves are difficult to mathimatical model in 3 dimensions. Im using a 5 year old samsung tablet, if it was easy to mathimatical model 3 dimensional waves it would require a supercomputer. If you cant understand that the negative value below the axis of a 2 dimensional waves is irrelevant to a wave travelling away from source in 3 dimensions then the math isnt going to help you.
Is a gravitational wave generally described or shown as a sinusoidal wave? Does gravity have a negative or opposite force or not? You cant have it both. Thats the true pseudoscience we are dealing with. Either gravity has no negative and it therefore cant be a sinusoidal wave.
Consider the central observer on the poloidal axis as that of a bridge rectifier. Its as simple as that. Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter.
Professionalism, best joke of the day. Professionalism would be you leaving and not coming back or saying yes i understand how a bridge rectifier works. If its not for you thats ok. Im not forcing you to be here, you have the choice to engage or not.
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[...] Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
I have already built bridge rectifiers when you were not even a twinkle in your father's eye.
So, where are the formulas of your reactor-thingie?
Oh, and btw, do you have the slightest idea, what "nonlinear" in mathematical terms means?
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[...] Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
I have already built bridge rectifiers when you were not even a twinkle in your father's eye.
So, where are the formulas of your reactor-thingie?
Oh, and btw, do you have the slightest idea, what "nonlinear" in mathematical terms means?
So what happens to the negative component of the wave?
Gravity waves are sinusoidal waves in 3 dimensional space are they not? How would they merge on the poloidal axis around a toroid? Ie what happens to the opposite negative component when it meets the positive component from the closer side to our perspective. Do you know what 2 negatives make? The negative wave is also on the opposite side, that is 2 negatives and when 2 negatives are added together they become a positive. Is that not true? This is the same effect as a bridge rectifier and why we say gravity has no negative.
Feel free to explain nonlinear in mathimatical terms. While you are at it you should explain parallel circles in mathimatical terms
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No mathematics in sight, only meaningless graphics and gibberish writing.
Still no vectors, tensors, matrices or differentials.
Not to speak of Maxwell equations.
Sinusoidal waves are difficult to mathimatical model in 3 dimensions. Im using a 5 year old samsung tablet, if it was easy to mathimatical model 3 dimensional waves it would require a supercomputer. If you cant understand that the negative value below the axis of a 2 dimensional waves is irrelevant to a wave travelling away from source in 3 dimensions then the math isnt going to help you.
Is a gravitational wave generally described or shown as a sinusoidal wave? Does gravity have a negative or opposite force or not? You cant have it both. Thats the true pseudoscience we are dealing with. Either gravity has no negative and it therefore cant be a sinusoidal wave.
Consider the central observer on the poloidal axis as that of a bridge rectifier. Its as simple as that. Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter.
Professionalism, best joke of the day. Professionalism would be you leaving and not coming back or saying yes i understand how a bridge rectifier works. If its not for you thats ok. Im not forcing you to be here, you have the choice to engage or not.
Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter. And don't be rude. It does nothing for your credibility.
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Does gravitational collapse create perfect spheres with a poloidal axis and magnetic field for them 2?
Does your theory explain the formation of planets that have no magnetic field? And what, perfect spheres? What perfect spheres?
Tesla was a genius. He was also well known for wasting other people's money on impractical pseudo-science projects, and in modern times would likely have extracted large amounts of money from gullible people using crowd funding sites, with predictable results.
Science works because theories can be empirically tested, which is why Einstein's theories are still accepted (they are not yet disproved), and Tesla's wireless power transmission continues to exist only in the minds of those who don't understand the maths.
You have been asked more than once to show us your mathematical workings out, but instead you prefer to show CG images of magnetic fields. Until you can provide some actual maths, no-one here will take anything you say seriously.
Yes, spherical toroids produce very weak magnetic fields. The flatter and more donut shaped toroids produce stronger magnetic fields.
Gravity is the combination of every individual plasma particle wave that is travelling around the toroid. Since every particle has an opposite to the R1 axis (equatorial axis of toroid above) they cancel each other out just like 3 phase electrical waves do when added together. However the poloidal axis creates a z pinch where the waves meet and form an exponential wave peak. This has been modelled plenty. I will include a picture of the model below. As stated the central polodial axis is like a bridge rectifier to the sinusoidal wave of AC, this is what we call the z pinch.
Since you've now discovered how to synthesise gravity, I will look forward to seeing you and Elon Musk establish your colonies in the rest of the solar system. What's your timetable? The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned.
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Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter. And don't be rude. It does nothing for your credibility.
The irony of say go away in the rudes possible way and then telling me not to be rude.
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Most engineers involved in cutting edge design have a close link with some form of academic institution. Either acting in a consultative role or as the design authority. If your project is funded then your angel investors may insist you onboard some bright minds from Cambridge or MIT - just to insure their investment.
As a thought exercise, where DO engineering equations originate? From magnetism to super fluidity, acceleration to energy, physicists are the people who give engineers nice equations and constants, so the engineers can make stuff for people who never knew they needed that stuff. Maybe we should not say V=IR but instead Voltaire = Ampere * Ohm
Whether engineers like it or not, they cannot and must not fit the fundimentals to suit themselves. V != I / R unless at some weird energy state. Which is more physics.
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Since you've now discovered how to synthesise gravity, I will look forward to seeing you and Elon Musk establish your colonies in the rest of the solar system. What's your timetable? The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned.
Im sure Elon is worried about your opinion buddy. Was it you that called his employees dim? Im sure you have landed a reuseable rocket and made billions. Just passing the time here are you? 😂😂
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Physicists start with simple situations to determine basic laws.
Engineers apply physical laws to complicated situations to get accurate results in practical cases.
Newton considered masses dropping by gravity without air resistance.
Boeing engineers apply air resistance in their software packages to design aircraft.
And thus is progress made.
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[...] Do you know how a bridge rectifier works?
I have already built bridge rectifiers when you were not even a twinkle in your father's eye.
So, where are the formulas of your reactor-thingie?
Oh, and btw, do you have the slightest idea, what "nonlinear" in mathematical terms means?
So what happens to the negative component of the wave?
Single phase or three phase bridge rectifier?
Feel free to explain nonlinear in mathimatical terms.
That's the task for you.
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Show us your ideas presented mathematically or go away.
And stop denigrating our professionalism on this matter. And don't be rude. It does nothing for your credibility.
The irony of say go away in the rudes possible way and then telling me not to be rude.
Are you 12 physically or mentally?
Now I'm being rude :)
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Beginning to suspect maybe he stood in the path of his experimental graviton emitter a wee bit too long and suffered a temporal reality inversion... :-//
mnem
"Like trying to smell the color 9..." :o
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It would be nice to see inquisitive questions, instead of very poor insults. Like not even funny insults.
Ok, I'll bite... Show us a simple energy diagram of all the energies going into and out of your incredible system. Forget the inner workings, we'll consider that a black box for now.
You are constantly referring to stars and planets which have a massive amount of energy available to them. Where does your system take it's energy from, what is the output and what/where are the losses?
McBryce.
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It would be nice to see inquisitive questions, instead of very poor insults. Like not even funny insults.
Ok, I'll bite... Show us a simple energy diagram of all the energies going into and out of your incredible system. Forget the inner workings, we'll consider that a black box for now.
You are constantly referring to stars and planets which have a massive amount of energy available to them. Where does your system take it's energy from, what is the output and what/where are the losses?
McBryce.
Please restate the question replacing energy with money. That has its own physical laws when it comes to investment ;)
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Are you begging the ministry of truth to silence all debate. No wonder the world cant progress. Im an engineer. The peer review process is not designed for engineers, we have what is called the patent process. No decent engineer would admit to having peers that arent other engineers. We built the world.
i would give the engineers a chance first. Disappointed they had the same attitude to the astrophysics forums.
I wonder why.
You request some serious amount of money (and not to forget some prayers, of course). Proving the theoretical functionality (as you can't or don't want to build a prototype) is an absolute must to judge if gifting or investing into "your idea" makes any sense.
Being an engineer does not provide you with "auto-credibility"; scientific facts and mathematical proofs provide credibility. Some sketchbook drawings do not.
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Do you have a functional prototype?
No? I guess the Star Trek technical manuals contain better physics information than these posts. FYI real physicist worked on those to make sure that the technical info in it is up to date, and then they added the technobabble to it.
This has been previously stated. Try reading prior posts please.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go through your incomprehensible word salad. Especially because reading like 3 sentences I can see that none of it makes any sense.
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Since you've now discovered how to synthesise gravity, I will look forward to seeing you and Elon Musk establish your colonies in the rest of the solar system. What's your timetable? The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned.
Im sure Elon is worried about your opinion buddy. Was it you that called his employees dim? Im sure you have landed a reuseable rocket and made billions. Just passing the time here are you? 😂😂
I doubt Musk worries about anyone's opinions, in his little dream world. I've never commented on his employees, not even the ones he's about to sack from Tesla. My reusable rocket is as much a reality as his is, and much cheaper, as it exists solely in my head. It's a public holiday, which grants me time away from work to do all sorts of things, including pointing out the errors in statements by people like you.
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Well, I haven't seen a topic gaining this much traction in a while. Interesting to see where it'll go from here.
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Hopefully into the trashcan now that he's revealed himself as a Muskie.
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OK, I think 4 pages is enough. Now that we discussed everything that's discussable, how about burying this thread? Pretty please?
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Don’t we at least get another page of victory dancing?
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OK, I think 4 pages is enough. Now that we discussed everything that's discussable, how about burying this thread? Pretty please?
Si, mon. Simon! Moins omnis somni!
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https://www.nonlinearplasma.com/s/Unified-Wave-Theory-Scott-Rennie-NLP.pdf (https://www.nonlinearplasma.com/s/Unified-Wave-Theory-Scott-Rennie-NLP.pdf)
Not even ONE equation in 14 pages.... this is so disturbing at many levels.
How can you even think somebody here will believe or support you?
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@nonlinearplasma This is not a project for a garage start up. Yes you want to change the world but to do that and, to attract serious investors, your project requires peer review by at least one major academic institution. May I suggest you go back to uni and master in electromagnetodynamics, or similar. As a PhD student, you will have access to hardware resources that no start up could find on ebay, plus have the expertise of the physics community to call upon. Then, when investors line up, they will have confidence in the projects true potential. And you'll have someone to pay the electricty bill from making all of that plasma.
@simon You know what to do.
Oh he has all the ticks in boxes to change the world. I think spending times on a boat studying is his version of the near religious revelation that every scam seems to come with.
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Do you have a functional prototype?
No? I guess the Star Trek technical manuals contain better physics information than these posts. FYI real physicist worked on those to make sure that the technical info in it is up to date, and then they added the technobabble to it.
This has been previously stated. Try reading prior posts please.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go through your incomprehensible word salad. Especially because reading like 3 sentences I can see that none of it makes any sense.
Don't try going to university these days then, they are almost as bad, only difference is they are not trying to come up with bullshit, they are just incompetent at explaining what we all know.
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OK, I think 4 pages is enough. Now that we discussed everything that's discussable, how about burying this thread? Pretty please?
Just stop replying? I mean if he does not get his money's worth he will probably just start again. These people are dumbly determined you know.
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Single phase or three phase bridge rectifier?
Feel free to explain nonlinear in mathimatical terms.
That's the task for you.
I will assume you have heard of differential equations?
What you seem to miss is all these mathimatical equations are correct and accurate. There is no need to modify them in anyway. Its a pretty simply idea, apply coulomb's law to plasma. MHD creates density changes in the plasma medium. Density changes cause the medium to move from 1 place to another. MHD Density changes are the result of waves. You can have surface waves which are well understood. Ocean waves are a good example of a surface wave. Then you have waves that are not surface waves. This is the wave of an ion travelling in a medium. A good example of this is the hadley, Ferrell and polar cells, an atmospheric surface wave can be seen in low and high pressure systems.
Coriolis effect can be easily disproven by the atmospheric trade winds on Venus, she only has a single hadley cell per hemisphere due to her spherical toroid. The field lines that create the ferrell cells can be seen in the atmospheric induction graphic i will attach again for you. Notice the high and low pressure systems on the top left hand corner. Do they both look like a helical wave to you? How about the hadley cells? Remember the orginal image is from NASA. I can upload the orginal if it makes it easier for you?
I assume we have all figured out that the electron moves in a helical wave as well by now. The magic angle is prove of that. Tell me how the helical wave of the "negative charge" should be treated differently from the
Helical wave of the "positive charge" of the ion?
Does the negative component of the wave get treated differently in a single phase bridge rectifer compared to a 3 phase one? What difference does it make?
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
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Are you begging the ministry of truth to silence all debate. No wonder the world cant progress. Im an engineer. The peer review process is not designed for engineers, we have what is called the patent process. No decent engineer would admit to having peers that arent other engineers. We built the world.
i would give the engineers a chance first. Disappointed they had the same attitude to the astrophysics forums.
I wonder why.
You request some serious amount of money (and not to forget some prayers, of course). Proving the theoretical functionality (as you can't or don't want to build a prototype) is an absolute must to judge if gifting or investing into "your idea" makes any sense.
Being an engineer does not provide you with "auto-credibility"; scientific facts and mathematical proofs provide credibility. Some sketchbook drawings do not.
Head to the first post bud. I posted scientific paper including the quotes from the paper. Are you claiming non linear plasma currents do not create a pressure gradient? Its in the title so you dont even have to put the effort in. Look forward to you claiming that as pseudo science. "Explosive growth" do you know what explosive means?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island)
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He's probably just using a fake physics paper generator like this -
http://snarxiv.org/ (http://snarxiv.org/)
which gives you outputs such as this -
:-DD
Towards String Theories on SL_9(\mathbb{H}) Bundles Over Moduli Spaces of Compact 2-folds Fibered Over C^m
Recently, a fair amount of work was done on Bogoliubov-Gross mechanics. We take a warped approach. Surprisingly, little work has been done recently formulating QCD deformed by defect F-terms. We solve the naturalness problem. The numerical analytical test of complexity localizes to R^n. Before explaining integrability, we derive that, by symmetry, the cosmic coincidence problem derives from a stack of B-type branes wrapped on the moduli space of moduli spaces of moduli spaces of 9 copies of T^9 fibered over the moduli space of SL_m(\R) orbifolds of lens spaces with abelian homology fibered over exotic superspace fibered over R^n fibered over a Dih_m quotient of R^m fibered over a H_m(R^m,\mathbb{H}) bundle over T^4 during inflation. Quite simply, while clarifying special lagrangian branes at the weak scale, we obtain that, as realized in a compactification of Seiberg-duality in 9+1-dimensional m-dimensional NCFTs on superspace, non-abelian flow equations follow from a B-type brane probe at the intermediate scale, at least in the context of axions. Our results are similar to work done by Schwartz.
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Are you begging the ministry of truth to silence all debate. No wonder the world cant progress. Im an engineer. The peer review process is not designed for engineers, we have what is called the patent process. No decent engineer would admit to having peers that arent other engineers. We built the world.
i would give the engineers a chance first. Disappointed they had the same attitude to the astrophysics forums.
I wonder why.
You request some serious amount of money (and not to forget some prayers, of course). Proving the theoretical functionality (as you can't or don't want to build a prototype) is an absolute must to judge if gifting or investing into "your idea" makes any sense.
Being an engineer does not provide you with "auto-credibility"; scientific facts and mathematical proofs provide credibility. Some sketchbook drawings do not.
Head to the first post bud. I posted scientific paper including the quotes from the paper. Are you claiming non linear plasma currents do not create a pressure gradient? Its in the title so you dont even have to put the effort in. Look forward to you claiming that as pseudo science. "Explosive growth" do you know what explosive means?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island)
You didn't write the paper, are not related to it and are not cited by it anywhere. You have no credibility or relation to the paper.
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate they converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate the converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
Show me the equations. Show me the proofs. That's all I am asking.
I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
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He's probably just using a fake physics paper generator like this -
http://snarxiv.org/ (http://snarxiv.org/)
which gives you outputs such as this -
:-DD
Towards String Theories on SL_9(\mathbb{H}) Bundles Over Moduli Spaces of Compact 2-folds Fibered Over C^m
Recently, a fair amount of work was done on Bogoliubov-Gross mechanics. We take a warped approach. Surprisingly, little work has been done recently formulating QCD deformed by defect F-terms. We solve the naturalness problem. The numerical analytical test of complexity localizes to R^n. Before explaining integrability, we derive that, by symmetry, the cosmic coincidence problem derives from a stack of B-type branes wrapped on the moduli space of moduli spaces of moduli spaces of 9 copies of T^9 fibered over the moduli space of SL_m(\R) orbifolds of lens spaces with abelian homology fibered over exotic superspace fibered over R^n fibered over a Dih_m quotient of R^m fibered over a H_m(R^m,\mathbb{H}) bundle over T^4 during inflation. Quite simply, while clarifying special lagrangian branes at the weak scale, we obtain that, as realized in a compactification of Seiberg-duality in 9+1-dimensional m-dimensional NCFTs on superspace, non-abelian flow equations follow from a B-type brane probe at the intermediate scale, at least in the context of axions. Our results are similar to work done by Schwartz.
Oh that is glorious. Just think of the hours of academic time that could be spent on floozies and beer with exactly the same outcome: dusty paper of useless and dubious utility lurking in an unread disreputable journal somewhere.
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You didn't write the paper, are not related to it and are not cited by it anywhere. You have no credibility or relation to the paper.
I know that, i was 20 years old when it was published, not even finished my time lol. Why would they cited me 16 years later?
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At this point, in this THREAD, I want to keep my comments a bit light, and sure noticing it is a popular thing. So, thanks, everyone, for contributing. I'd say, with all proper courtesy: Please allow me to join in some criticism:
'Pseudi-Science' is an interesting term, and switching into Career and Accomplishments territory, Who are your co-workers, or staff ? What enterprises have you been associated with ? What got built, sold ?
Is there a document source, for all these, alleged, folks that have opposed your ideas, especially un-fairly ?
What I mean is, ' Such and such agency fired you, (unfairly), and such and such complaint process was followed...'.
I mean ANYTHING, besides long-winded TECH term choked responses.
Please respond with one name, one past complaint process that (you) followed, and where that went...
And, YES, this is a challenge. Go, like, through one whole cycle of coherent response, without reference to magnetism, without reference to 'spinning', etc.
In other words, science and engineering established structure, in organizational terms, not TECH terms.
???? Eh?
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You didn't write the paper, are not related to it and are not cited by it anywhere. You have no credibility or relation to the paper.
I know that, i was 20 years old when it was published, not even finished my time lol. Why would they cited me 16 years later?
So where have you cited it then and who peer reviewed the paper in which you cited it?
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate the converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
Show me the equations. Show me the proofs. That's all I am asking.
I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
I will build the proof, that what the R&D is for, go think about it. Look at the illustration. Does plasma increase in density the faster it rotates and does it expand when interacting in a non linear manner? That all im asking.
Next time you go out in a boat, look behind as you start moving. Does the water bubble up or does it sink?
Water coming of the prop has been compressed correct? So why does it bubble up? Logic says it should sink, but the boundary layer between the moving "water jet" coming from the prop and the stationary water is non linear. Thus the water becomes lighter and bubbles up. Is water effected by MHD? Remember the russian build a submarine that was powered by MHD.
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate the converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
Show me the equations. Show me the proofs. That's all I am asking.
I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
I will build the proof, that what the R&D is for, go think about it. Look at the illustration. Does plasma increase in density the faster it rotates and does it expand when interacting in a non linear manner? That all im asking.
Next time you go out in a boat, look behind as you start moving. Does the water bubble up or does it sink?
Water coming of the prop has been compressed correct? So why does it bubble up? Logic says it should sink, but the boundary layer between the moving "water jet" coming from the prop and the stationary water is non linear. Thus the water becomes lighter and bubbles up. Is water effected by MHD? Remember the russian build a submarine that was powered by MHD.
Analogies do not make mathematics.
Get the pencil out and show us some proofs.
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You didn't write the paper, are not related to it and are not cited by it anywhere. You have no credibility or relation to the paper.
I know that, i was 20 years old when it was published, not even finished my time lol. Why would they cited me 16 years later?
So where have you cited it then and who peer reviewed the paper in which you cited it?
On my website it is in the external literature section. I have not went down the peer review process. Would you tell the world before the patent is published? It was only published at the end of may. Its best to protect intellectual property as long as possible. If i had the money i would still be protecting it.
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I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
In the nineties in the usenet we've called someone who wrote such gibberish things a script (script language doesn't matter). ;D
Probably a more sophisticated version of ELIZA. :-DD
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You didn't write the paper, are not related to it and are not cited by it anywhere. You have no credibility or relation to the paper.
I know that, i was 20 years old when it was published, not even finished my time lol. Why would they cited me 16 years later?
So where have you cited it then and who peer reviewed the paper in which you cited it?
On my website it is in the external literature section. I have not went down the peer review process. Would you tell the world before the patent is published? It was only published at the end of may. Its best to protect intellectual property as long as possible. If i had the money i would still be protecting it.
None of the literature links mention you.
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!! NOW, I remember what I wanted to note, as discussions progress, and that has a positive component to it, rather than red-faced stress arguing:
It is a QUOTE, I've utilized before, lifted from an old old TV episode, 'Leave it to Beaver'.
The brother had asked, why he had given his lunch money to the grifter, after being pitched ?
This adult, had told the story, his daughter starving was asking when would they have food, plus some other heart-string pulling details, (about the fictional 'sweet kid' with good attitude)...
I knew, Beaver had said, I knew he was making it up...
"BUT,...No one ever told me such a good STORY".
In other words, the 'Beav, as he was called, actually joined in, on the whole fraudulent thing...knowingly and willingly.
Testimony on the complexities, of human existence.
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Uh, ok I looked for myself, since you have declined to answer question:
Seeing reference to PATENT, are you Scott Rennie ?
Seeing you are posting on eevblog hiding behind a user name, but it says you are in SCOTLAND ?
Most folks asking (me) to donate actually, have a real
'NAME', not some handle used on a blog post.
Is this secrecy, because YOU have an arrest record, to cover up ?
Donations ? Are there regulations related to asking for money, like, CIC Charitible Organization I'd # 1234 ?
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Uh, ok I looked for myself, since you have declined to answer question:
Seeing reference to PATENT, are you Scott Rennie ?
Seeing you are posting on eevblog hiding behind a user name, but it says you are in SCOTLAND ?
Most folks asking (me) to donate actually, have a real
'NAME', not some handle used on a blog post.
Is this secrecy, because YOU have an arrest record, to cover up ?
Donations ? Are there regulations related to asking for money, like, CIC Charitible Organization I'd # 1234 ?
Yes im Scott Rennie, im using my company name because im trying to build a company. Not really my goal but its kinda how the world works, i cant help that. My website has an about me section with my picture on it, so i wouldnt say im trying to hide anything. If you think that is me hiding behind my company and website name which can all be easily checked out then ive did a pretty poor job at it havent I, esp when the link to the website was on the very first post.
Also both the givesendgo and gofundme pages have my name on it i believe. I perfer givesendgo because gofundme did some dodgy stuff over the last year that went against the very principles of the company. To the point it was illegal and they had to back track on their position. Irrelevant here but still i like to support companies that have some moral fiber and dont try to steal money from ppl that have donated to a cause just because they dont agree with it.
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This guy, or BOT, can't spell, or phrase usual English skills, but that could be BOT cleverness. I noticed, in movie 'Terminator 2', the robot makers had even installed 'bad breath', for disguise of the robot's true nature.
But, for sure, some responses come immediate, (he's right here on the thread, now) but while other respondents replies are ignored. Maybe if I goad the 'BOT', it will respond, eventually. This is all a silly, but voluntary, wasteoftime.
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None of the literature links mention you.
Why would it? I just told you that i havent tried to peer review anything. My patent which btw does not need to cite anyone was only published a week ago. I dont think you have a grasp of the peer review process. Its for science that does not result in a patent and is just for knowledge, it has no real value for commercial purposes. No one in their right mind would go down the peer review process before having the patent secured. No one in the peer review process is ever going to cite a patent. At least not to my knowledge. Maybe if they were referencing say an induction motor or something like that.
Here is an example
“I've been cooking this concept for a while,” said Ebrahimi, the author of a paper detailing the idea in the Journal of Plasma Physics. “I had the idea in 2017 while sitting on a deck and thinking about the similarities between a car's exhaust and the high-velocity exhaust particles created by PPPL's National Spherical Torus Experiment (NSTX). During its operation, this tokamak produces magnetic bubbles called plasmoids that move at around 20 kilometres per second, which seemed to me a lot like thrust"
Here is the full article
https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system (https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system)
It does not mention the patent, i assume she didnt wait 4 years to release the paper for no reason.
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate the converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
Show me the equations. Show me the proofs. That's all I am asking.
I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
I will build the proof, that what the R&D is for, go think about it. Look at the illustration. Does plasma increase in density the faster it rotates and does it expand when interacting in a non linear manner? That all im asking.
So, reading the timeline on your website...
Step 1: Gimme lots of money!
...
Step 3: I'll start doing some maths (or R&D as you put it)
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This guy, or BOT, can't spell, or phrase usual English skills, but that could be BOT cleverness. I noticed, in movie 'Terminator 2', the robot makers had even installed 'bad breath', for disguise of the robot's true nature.
But, for sure, some responses come immediate, (he's right here on the thread, now) but while other respondents replies are ignored. Maybe if I goad the 'BOT', it will respond, eventually. This is all a silly, but voluntary, wasteoftime.
Don't worry, even university lecturers can't do english. I suspect he has nothing better to do on benefits. I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
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This guy, or BOT, can't spell, or phrase usual English skills, but that could be BOT cleverness. I noticed, in movie 'Terminator 2', the robot makers had even installed 'bad breath', for disguise of the robot's true nature.
But, for sure, some responses come immediate, (he's right here on the thread, now) but while other respondents replies are ignored. Maybe if I goad the 'BOT', it will respond, eventually. This is all a silly, but voluntary, wasteoftime.
Don't worry, even university lecturers can't do english. I suspect he has nothing better to do on benefits. I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
We have already spoke about my dyslexia.
I will let my ex know, she did it for free so i cant complain to much. I saved up working 12hr shifts underground for 4 years. You dont get benifits sailing the world. I can go back tunnelling, i actually enjoy it. But next year i have to decide how many countries i want the patent rights to. It roughly about 4kusd per country. To get the main western countries you are talking maybe $50000. I was told to not expect much change from 70k by the time its all finished. The system is designed so the small guy cant win. If i have to go tunnelling it will be years before a prototype can be funded. Remember im in no rush. Im 35 years old. Hows your energy bills looking? The wind is cheap ;)
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I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
Yep. Squarespace.
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I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
Yep. Squarespace.
Are we done yet? Who gives a shit about the website design? The patent is what we are here to discuss so if you dont have any decent question about it leave, and stop making others read your petty nonsense.
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I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
Yep. Squarespace.
Are we done yet? Who gives a shit about the website design? The patent is what we are here to discuss so if you dont have any decent question about it leave, and stop making others read your petty nonsense.
Somewhat hypocritical that.
We asked you questions. You didn’t answer them.
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I'm confused, the company is in australia but the guy is in scotland
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When I hear a crowdfunder claiming the product will "revolutionize" this and that, I turn and run as fast as I can.
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I think the OP (Nonlinearplasma), has made a very bad decision, paying money for the Patent. Not all Patents are worthwhile, some are just a complete waste of money.
Nonlinearplasma, please tell me your haven't wasted any money on patents, and don't intend to waste any more money on them?
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That's step 2 on his website timeline.
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I mean that pathetic website is less than an afternoons work.
Yep. Squarespace.
Are we done yet? Who gives a shit about the website design? The patent is what we are here to discuss so if you dont have any decent question about it leave, and stop making others read your petty nonsense.
Somewhat hypocritical that.
We asked you questions. You didn’t answer them.
First time ive seen my family in 2 and a half years today. Your constant maths questions arent important enough for me to justify spenting hours on.
Did you read this?
https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system (https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system)
Do you know what thrust is? Do you notice she was working on fusion and found a pressure gradient from the spherical torus reactor she was working on? Did you notice the speed of expansion? Im putting turbine blades infront of that explosive expansion (thrust). Do you know how a jet engine works?
The plasma reactor is like the love child of an electric motor and a jet engine. Plasma being an electrical conducting field. The toroid being the coil. The poloidal axis the z pinch. The z-pinch is compressing plasma. What happens when a medium is compressed? Does it happen to flow from 1 location to another? Ask why the fluid travels from the south to the north pole. Or ask about the quadrupole alignment and how it changes from z pinch to penning trap. Ask about the magic angle. So many questions you could ask, but instead your worried about the design of a website. Im sure your website is amazing.
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I'm confused, the company is in australia but the guy is in scotland
The patent was done in Australia, i lived there for the last 10 years, im sailing home to be closer to family. Ive dreamed of sailing home since i bought my first yacht 10 years ago when i arrived in Australia. I will eventually start the company in Scotland. Obviously internet availability has made setting that up difficult while on the move. The garmin inreach doesnt do data.
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First time ive seen my family in 2 and a half years today. Your constant maths questions arent important enough for me to justify spenting hours on.
You're the party, creating multiple threads, around the internet, begging asking for money.
Now you have to turn around, and accuse us of wasting YOUR time with questions.
I'm not sure, I've seen you answer a single question, properly in this thread.
Your qualifications/merit/ideas/proof, comes from watching water splash/splosh around, from boating?
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Concerning PATENTS:
I filed for a PATENT in 2002. NO RIGHTS ARE GRANTED on a U.S. Patent Application, until granted, at approx 2 to 4 years later. It was a Patent Applied for situation, giving me 'Priority' on the day and year, as first to create (novel) idea.
If the 'fusion' patent was filed in Australia, perhaps that's done under Europe system, I don't know much.
But, fairly sure to say:
An application is NOT a PATENT.
In U.S. every application goes through rounds of corrective things, from mundane, like a drawing the examiner thinks is deficient, to outright deletion of material, or separation of material needing another wholly separate application. Then, you pay your issue fees, somewhat according to Patent Office fee schedule.
I even went so far as to consider switching from Inventor / Applicant, to actually working for other Engineers and Attorney offices, as a WRITER, to help with the technical writing form that the office prefers.
(They don't accept napkins, even if scrawled by Steve Jobs).
I hardly, believe, you 'Own a Patent'. Nope.
You just, simply, mailed them something, and now it's in their hands, to start pulling that application into shape. Somewhere, around 2024-2025 is where, with due diligence, a person like you would "have a Patent".
Otherwise, it's an INSULT, to those of us who, in reality, OWN nothing but an interesting story. My application, US 20030172205 IS technically, listed as ABANDONED.
Harsh, but I couldn't complete the 3 to 4 years it might have taken, for ISSUE. No Regrets, as I said, the old saying, When one door closes, other doors can open.
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I think the OP (Nonlinearplasma), has made a very bad decision, paying money for the Patent. Not all Patents are worthwhile, some are just a complete waste of money.
Nonlinearplasma, please tell me your haven't wasted any money on patents, and don't intend to waste any more money on them?
Yes i do. There is nothing you could say that will change that
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Concerning PATENTS:
I filed for a PATENT in 2002. NO RIGHTS ARE GRANTED on a U.S. Patent Application, until granted, at approx 2 to 4 years later. It was a Patent Applied for situation, giving me 'Priority' on the day and year, as first to create (novel) idea.
If the 'fusion' patent was filed in Australia, perhaps that's done under Europe system, I don't know much.
But, fairly sure to say:
An application is NOT a PATENT.
In U.S. every application goes through rounds of corrective things, from mundane, like a drawing the examiner thinks is deficient, to outright deletion of material, or separation of material needing another wholly separate application. Then, you pay your issue fees, somewhat according to Patent Office fee schedule.
I even went so far as to consider switching from Inventor / Applicant, to actually working for other Engineers and Attorney offices, as a WRITER, to help with the technical writing form that the office prefers.
(They don't accept napkins, even if scrawled by Steve Jobs).
I hardly, believe, you 'Own a Patent'. Nope.
You just, simply, mailed them something, and now it's in their hands, to start pulling that application into shape. Somewhere, around 2024-2025 is where, with due diligence, a person like you would "have a Patent".
Otherwise, it's an INSULT, to those of us who, in reality, OWN nothing but an interesting story. My application, US 20030172205 IS technically, listed as ABANDONED.
Harsh, but I couldn't complete the 3 to 4 years it might have taken, for ISSUE. No Regrets, as I said, the old saying, When one door closes, other doors can open.
Yeah mine is at the 2 year stage, i had the priority date over a year ago. Then we made changes and now it has been published tho the Australian patent office. It is an international patent application, the next stage is selecting the countries i want the right in. This is the expensive part. I believe you can add countries later on but im not a hundred % sure. Its a complicated process by design. We play the game to the rules that are in place.
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First time ive seen my family in 2 and a half years today. Your constant maths questions arent important enough for me to justify spenting hours on.
You don't want to answer the question because you don't understand enough of the problem domain to actually answer it past some GCSE level rambling tripe. Thus you retort with petty evasion and empty platitudes. You do disservice to those who actually have ideas worth bringing to market and those with the funding to do so by decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio.
Pack your entire ideology in a bag, throw it in a skip where it belongs and reevaluate your life before you hurt someone in your family.
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Your qualifications/merit/ideas/proof, comes from watching water splash/splosh around, from boating?
He thinks he's Feynman. But without the grasp of calculus. Or the personality.
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First time ive seen my family in 2 and a half years today. Your constant maths questions arent important enough for me to justify spenting hours on.
You're the party, creating multiple threads, around the internet, begging asking for money.
Now you have to turn around, and accuse us of wasting YOUR time with questions.
I'm not sure, I've seen you answer a single question, properly in this thread.
Your qualifications/merit/ideas/proof, comes from watching water splash/splosh around, from boating?
And you have a problem with this why?
Ive given you links to experimental plasma research that shows that non linear plasma produces explosive growth in the medium. That is prove.
Ive given you links to the thrust produces by plasmoid. If you dont know what explosive thrust is then how is it possible for me to explain it to you?
I ve even shown you how the magnetic field changes on the sun periodically. Go back to the first page. Look at the views on the illustrations. If you dont look at then all you are here for is to try and discredit me.
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Yes i do. There is nothing you could say that will change that
Unless you really have invented something, which doesn't seem to be the case here. Then patents are going to be a huge waste of money, especially for an individual. Who hasn't got the finances, to go to court to actually fight, for their patent(s), if violated in the future.
Can't you do a tiny experiment, which would seem to show, your idea(s), actually work?
If not, then you could be wasting your time/efforts/money/resources, on a pipe-dream.
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I'm confused, the company is in australia but the guy is in scotland
The patent was done in Australia, i lived there for the last 10 years, im sailing home to be closer to family. Ive dreamed of sailing home since i bought my first yacht 10 years ago when i arrived in Australia. I will eventually start the company in Scotland. Obviously internet availability has made setting that up difficult while on the move. The garmin inreach doesnt do data.
Your sailing home to see the family you have just seen after 2.5 years. Nothing is clear. you can't set up a company while sailing but can post your diatribes all over the internet.
Setting up a company in the UK is a simple form filling process online that costs £30.
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Your qualifications/merit/ideas/proof, comes from watching water splash/splosh around, from boating?
He thinks he's Feynman. But without the grasp of calculus. Or the personality.
You think you can judge personality in an internet forum. You should patent that.
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Yes i do. There is nothing you could say that will change that
Unless you really have invented something, which doesn't seem to be the case here. Then patents are going to be a huge waste of money, especially for an individual. Who hasn't got the finances, to go to court to actually fight, for their patent(s), if violated in the future.
Can't you do a tiny experiment, which would seem to show, your idea(s), actually work?
If not, then you could be wasting your time/efforts/money/resources, on a pipe-dream.
He can't even explain in non "turbo encabulator" jargon his idea. So he can't put anything to paper.
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He can't even explain in non "turbo encabulator" jargon his idea. So he can't put anything to paper.
In fairness to the OP, we here, don't even know what bridge rectifiers are. ;) ;) ;)
Mathematics, is potentially a cheaper way (no experiments, necessarily needed), to at least show the idea, might basically work, in theory.
From what I gathered, the OP showed that (from another thread, elsewhere):
-1 + -1 = 2
Which doesn't quite seem to add up. That seemed to annoy people, in the other thread. Who felt that the -2 NOT being equal to 2, was VERY significant, and showed the idea doesn't seem to work, or is fundamentally flawed.
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Your sailing home to see the family you have just seen after 2.5 years. Nothing is clear. you can't set up a company while sailing but can post your diatribes all over the internet.
Setting up a company in the UK is a simple form filling process online that costs £30.
But i dont need to yet, so why would i? I still have my company set up in Australia on paper. Why would i put myself in the position of having to do tax returns for both?
This is the first time since leaving Australia ive had access to an actual computer and internet that isnt basically dail up. Sorry if my life has been pretty sweet. I worked hard for this and its an achievement to sail halfway around the world solo. And im not apologising to you for it.
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I think you need to check the desalination system on that boat.
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Concerning PATENTS:
I filed for a PATENT in 2002.
This engineer/inventor has had 'patents pending' since the 1960's (sic). I think this novel machine uses leading edge, edge leading, vortex technology in the propellor compressor. But there's no flux capacitor? Pehaps that's from another doctorate?
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He can't even explain in non "turbo encabulator" jargon his idea. So he can't put anything to paper.
In fairness to the OP, we here, don't even know what bridge rectifiers are. ;) ;) ;)
Mathematics, is potentially a cheaper way (no experiments, necessarily needed), to at least show the idea, might basically work, in theory.
From what I gathered, the OP showed that (from another thread, elsewhere):
-1 + -1 = 2
Which doesn't quite seem to add up. That seemed to annoy people, in the other thread. Who felt that the -2 NOT being equal to 2, was VERY significant, and showed the idea doesn't seem to work, or is fundamentally flawed.
If we are measuring the sinusoidal wave around the toroidal axis and say that the inside edge is negative to the axis then what is the value of both waves if measured from the z pinch poloidal axis? Likewise the positive component of the wave as viewed from any frame of reference. Maxwells equation can only measure the sinusoidal wave that is travelling in a straight line such as a conductor. It cant take into account multiple axis or the perspective change of the wave as it rotates 180°. The wave is travelling in the opposite direction and is now coming toward us if it was travelling away from us before. Since north/positive and south/negative has changed direction the value of the wave must also change. Ie the north becomes south to our perspective If we are stationary to the wave. This is why it was important that you understood the difference between the north and south pole of a magnet. A similar situation to the bridge reactifier, it was ignored as if it doesnt matter, when its a fundamental principle of electromagnet waves.
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I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
In the nineties in the usenet we've called someone who wrote such gibberish things a script (script language doesn't matter). ;D
Probably a more sophisticated version of ELIZA. :-DD
Now, now there... that's terribly unkind. ;)
I mean, most mornings I'd probably fail a Turing Test until at least my 3rd cup of coffee... :o
mnem
"No disassemble Yotz!!!"
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-pinch
Maybe this will help, lets say you have compressed the plasma in the z pinch, it then exits the z pinch.
Does the plasma stay compressed?
Does it expand?
Or does it get even more compressed?
What happens if the compressed plasma is forced at 90° into the vortex flow perpendicular to the z pinch poloidal axis. As show in the squatter man attached.
The head of the squatterman is the location of the explosive expansion (thrust). It gives of lots of light. It has a massive arrow on it to make it easy to find. Now go look at the design of the plasma reactor, where will that pressure gradient be forced once it exits the z pinch?
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It's about time this research stops... I refuse to stay silent any longer.
The name of a company can change, but truth doesn't go away.
Ive never had another company, i have no idea who you talking about. Ive been sailing since i was 25 working in mining, oil and gas and renewable energy. I have never done any of the research you are talking about. If you have research you think is relevent to vortex structures then fell free to share it.
What's funny about this is that if you had the slightest clue about physics, you would have told me I was talking out my ass instead of saying your company never had a different name lol :box: :box: :box: been waiting soo long for an excuse to use the box emoji lol :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502608;image)
It's amazing that you have all this photographic documentation of your experiments... So... where do you get all this plasma for your plasma experiments? Amazon? Do they have it on their Subscribe & Save program...? :o
No, wait... you need lots of Gravity too, so must be Plasma Warehouse right next to the Gravity Emporium, so you can get all the plasma & gravy you need in one trip, right? Or is it too dangerous, transporting them both in the same vehicle...? :-//
mnem
Oh dear... there goes the cork on my magnetic bottle again... :-\
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Yeah, we have fun with this, a chuckle or two, (hopefully not too disrespectful), don't get mad or bummed, and, especially, no alcohol in a public bar.
HOWEVER, asking for money, while claiming to "'Own the PATENT, no matter what people say'", is, well, potentially breaking the law, ILLEGAL, or at least should be.
Do you, 'Scott', OWN a patent, or not ? Because, warning; could be a jail term in that plea for money.
I'm only half-serious, sitting in my half-puptent, but you've been soliciting, publicly.
Kapishk? (not spelled correct, em)
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502608;image)
It's amazing that you have all this photographic documentation of your experiments... So... where do you get all this plasma for your plasma experiments? Amazon? Do they have it on their Subscribe & Save program...? :o
No, wait... you need lots of Gravity too, so must be Plasma Warehouse right next to the Gravity Emporium, so you can get all the plasma & gravy you need in one trip, right? Or is it too dangerous, transporting them both in the same vehicle...? :-//
mnem
Oh dear... there goes the cork on my magnetic bottle again... :-\
That particular experiment was conducted at Los Almos. You can watch a presentation of it on youtube. Linked below
https://youtu.be/6meaU1QcSdA (https://youtu.be/6meaU1QcSdA)
It was drawn on lots of rock all around the world. Dance like an Egyptian springs to mind. Them weird sun worshipping Egyptians. Wonder why all their drawings have a similar posture?
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Yeah, we have fun with this, a chuckle or two, (hopefully not too disrespectful), don't get mad or bummed, and, especially, no alcohol in a public bar.
HOWEVER, asking for money, while claiming to "'Own the PATENT, no matter what people say'", is, well, potentially breaking the law, ILLEGAL, or at least should be.
Do you, 'Scott', OWN a patent, or not ? Because, warning; could be a jail term in that plea for money.
I'm only half-serious, sitting in my half-puptent, but you've been soliciting, publicly.
Kapishk? (not spelled correct, em)
Would you like a receipt or something?
The Australian IP website will allow you to search for the patent. It was initial filed under my name then put under the company name. Thanks for your concern tho. Very sweet.
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It's about time this research stops... I refuse to stay silent any longer.
The name of a company can change, but truth doesn't go away.
Ive never had another company, i have no idea who you talking about. Ive been sailing since i was 25 working in mining, oil and gas and renewable energy. I have never done any of the research you are talking about. If you have research you think is relevent to vortex structures then fell free to share it.
What's funny about this is that if you had the slightest clue about physics, you would have told me I was talking out my ass instead of saying your company never had a different name lol :box: :box: :box: been waiting soo long for an excuse to use the box emoji lol :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
Stooping to your level is something im trying to avoid. You dont make it easy.
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By all means, stoop.
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Ok, some minor correction, regarding process.
You've stated, looks like, similar to U.S. law, your (meaning OP, whoever THAT really is), your application got into Australia Patent office, and now is published, in May, a published APPLICATION. All good,...so far...
But a pattern has emerged, in case OP is not self-aware. Skip the tough questions, and JUMP on other questions / posts here. I'm still mostly waiting, for any answers relevant. Push-back comes very soon here, unless it's, well, unless it's a consequential thing, like getting truly into criminal fraud, territory. Then, it's silence, (crickets).
And, who's this 'We' being mentioned in organizational context. Can the government investigator access, an accountant, there, as part of this 'we'?
Maybe, down the line, when you do get arrested, charged, you can start claiming how you got tricked, duped by other bloggers who simply asked:
"Do you, or not, own a PATENT as claimed, in the monetary solicitation ?"
OR,..".Do you, understand the question being asked, of you, right now ?"
Question is:
Are you soliciting funds, while claiming to OWN A PATENT ?
(Yes I know, too much CAPs is bad form, lol, I'm trying to use bad form, rightnow, lol.)
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That particular experiment was conducted at Los Almos. You can watch a presentation of it on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6meaU1QcSdA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6meaU1QcSdA)
It was drawn on lots of rock all around the world. Dance like an Egyptian springs to mind. Them weird sun worshipping Egyptians. Wonder why all their drawings have a similar posture?
Ummm... yeah... that video has nothing to to with the theoretical physics you're plagiarizing here; he's suggesting that all these ancient civilizations were somehow exposed to real-world examples turned into working technology. :o
So... a dissertation suggesting that the core premise of Stargate (aliens with FTL travel technology were actually all our old gods) was maybe real is somehow your proof that this technology is possible with our current level of scientific knowledge and manufacturing capability?
Okay... this is no longer amusing, even if you are a bot.
mnem
*toddles off to do something, even if it's wrong*
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SCOTT ! (If you'll excuse using first names),
Claiming you OWN A PATENT, usually that angry double-down is accompanied by quoting a Patent Office issued number, according to law.
Instead, of sending me off, again, to Australia's Patent system, maybe you could, ahem, provide that number, please. Because now, you're getting to the point of just, screaming at the screen:
"...Do you want a receipt ?..." Yeah, I do, now. Or ...we want to see, your ISSUED PATENT NUMBER.
I'm wasting your time, I know. So, before I mail you that 50 cents donation, I'd, please, like to skip the step, of having to go sniff out some claim on the Australian Patent office WEB site, how about you supply that number:
Australian Patent Number _______.
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This sure seems a lot like Theranos business model: ::)
Start with an outrageous idea that just might seem to the layperson that it possibly could work :bullshit:
Give the idea a futuristic name
Need money to market this idea, not the technology, but just the idea.
Apply for patents to make it look official, add credibility and hopefully reduce scrutiny
Make up slick looking graphics and careful wording to convince investors; add popular buzz words
Throw in some personal stories to help give potential investors warm fuzzy feelings that your idea is legitimate
Keep up a frenzied pace of marketing while piling on more hype and denouncing all naysayers.
As the money rolls in, hire some real professionals and pay others for endorsements. Every good pyramid needs a firm foundation.
It is entertaining to watch :popcorn:
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OK, this is getting interesting:
Since OP seems to prefer we sniff around, for our own damn information. Fine. I came up with a DRUGSTORE there, at the address of 'Start-Up' (?? Huhhhggff ??).
A quick jump, onto Google maps, after having to dig around the Patent office for verification, the address, for Plasma Reactor start-up is....A DRUGSTORE.
Looks like a nice store, like a smaller version of Walgreens or Walmart, or something.
WO 2022104408
Filed application from:
18/38 MacPherson Street
Bronte, New South Wales 2024, Au
(that's a strip mall shopping center,
no visable Tokomaks here...)
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He can't even explain in non "turbo encabulator" jargon his idea. So he can't put anything to paper.
In fairness to the OP, we here, don't even know what bridge rectifiers are. ;) ;) ;)
Mathematics, is potentially a cheaper way (no experiments, necessarily needed), to at least show the idea, might basically work, in theory.
From what I gathered, the OP showed that (from another thread, elsewhere):
-1 + -1 = 2
Which doesn't quite seem to add up. That seemed to annoy people, in the other thread. Who felt that the -2 NOT being equal to 2, was VERY significant, and showed the idea doesn't seem to work, or is fundamentally flawed.
If we are measuring the sinusoidal wave around the toroidal axis and say that the inside edge is negative to the axis then what is the value of both waves if measured from the z pinch poloidal axis? Likewise the positive component of the wave as viewed from any frame of reference. Maxwells equation can only measure the sinusoidal wave that is travelling in a straight line such as a conductor. It cant take into account multiple axis or the perspective change of the wave as it rotates 180°. The wave is travelling in the opposite direction and is now coming toward us if it was travelling away from us before. Since north/positive and south/negative has changed direction the value of the wave must also change. Ie the north becomes south to our perspective If we are stationary to the wave. This is why it was important that you understood the difference between the north and south pole of a magnet. A similar situation to the bridge reactifier, it was ignored as if it doesnt matter, when its a fundamental principle of electromagnet waves.
If it's going to usefully be discussed on forum(s). I would make two suggestions.
First, it needs to be a forum (or sub-forum), where it covers your subject area. Since this is primarily an electronics forum. I don't think it is the right place, for you.
Secondly, you need to conform to the rules and regulations, and be polite, on any such forum. Otherwise, you may get into trouble (which already seems to have happened, over on that other forum).
If this 'thing' is such a wonderful and good idea, which will save/improve humanity. How come you wasted spend so much time sailing round the world?
Shouldn't you be studying, experimenting, creating and stuff ?
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Oooh differential equations. I love differential equations. And vector calculus!
Oh hang on, there aren't any. AGAIN.
You need to actually use them, not name check them.
That's your proof, not ramblings.
As ions accelerate the converge, the angle of convergence is calculated by differential equations.
Consider a tesla valve, the pressure change from non linear interaction of the fluid increases the pressure which reduces flow. This is well proven and has been demonstrated time and time again. An engineer doesnt need to know the math to know that non linear plasma creates a pressure change. Airplanes wings work and we are pretty good at modelling them. I hardly think it needs redone, do you?
Show me the equations. Show me the proofs. That's all I am asking.
I'm sure this guy is a GPT-3 experiment.
I will build the proof, that what the R&D is for, go think about it. Look at the illustration. Does plasma increase in density the faster it rotates and does it expand when interacting in a non linear manner? That all im asking.
Next time you go out in a boat, look behind as you start moving. Does the water bubble up or does it sink?
Water coming of the prop has been compressed correct? So why does it bubble up? Logic says it should sink, but the boundary layer between the moving "water jet" coming from the prop and the stationary water is non linear. Thus the water becomes lighter and bubbles up. Is water effected by MHD? Remember the russian build a submarine that was powered by MHD.
You're offering a Tom Clancy novel as evidence? :palm:
Also, this description of what happens when a prop moves through water is just plain wrong, it's so wrong it's not even primary school level wrong.
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Your constant maths questions arent important enough for me to justify spenting hours on.
Well, at least there is no aether in this one.
Relating to the maths issue, it wouldn't really matter if you were just bouncing an idea around to see where it lands. I imagine that's how a lot of perpetual motion machines get thought up, matching principles in out-of-the-box ways. The possibilities are nearly endless!
But that's not where you are with this. You are asking for real money that people are going to lose. AFAICS, you're not asking for investors who will retain some share in your eventual product or company (and even they will likely lose money on what is obviously a long-term proposition). No, you are asking for people to give you money with no return other than a warm feeling (hopefully!) that they've made a minute contribution to someone elses big payday. Er, I mean humankind's future.
So you're at the stage where you need to show that this will probably work. You don't need an actual prototype (just yet) but you do need to show that people aren't throwing money at some nonsense. And the way to do that is by showing your workings, aka maths.
For instance, there's a nearly adjacent thread on using a slingshot to launch a rocket (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/spinlaunch-can-it-succeed/). The initial bouncing around of ideas might suggest it could be a cool idea, and there are many examples of launching motor-less rockets, throwing stones, etc, so it has to be a goer, right? Well, that's where the maths comes in, and you can see in that thread that putting numbers to things shows that it's probably a bad investment. It's one thing to say that you just need to get the speed up to so many miler per hour, or spin at so many revs per minute, but it's another to show that doing so will apply 10,000g to your payload. That might not be so bad, but some more numbers would show the massive instantaneous kick in the side the launcher would suffer when releasing the payload.
That's the benefit of the maths. You can easily show that whatever will likely do such and such, or has not a hope in hell of achieving whatever. It's not R&D - back of the fag packet numbers would be something, and when you're asking for $15m it's the least you could stump up. Not just for those you hope will gift you a cushy living but for yourself as well.
It looks to me as if you'd gone the route of cherry picking other peoples products or experiments and gluing them together as if they're Lego kits. The maths would indicate that the basic idea is sound, for one. But also that you understand enough of what you're proposing to know what equations to feed which numbers. The impression I get from your posts so far is that you grasp some principles but not the details, so you don't know what numbers are relevant or what to apply them to, or how.
The reactions you're getting here are a mix, some outright rude (and meant to be) and some at least giving you a chance to make a case (maths!). I've been in a similar situation where I had an invention that actually worked (and an actual granted patent, albeit not for the clever part of the invention) but nevertheless encountered forum participants much MUCH worse than anything you'll suffer here. AFAIK, no-one here is likely to pop around to your house to let you know their views, or deliberately buy your product so they can injure themselves with it and then sue you to penury.
No, you have it pretty easy here in internet terms, and you could have it even easier still if you just came up with some numbers. You will have to do that anyway if you want any serious funding, and it would be excellent way to show those rude gits in here how silly they are. I think that right now, maths is the most important thing you could be doing with this project, and it is definitely worth spending however many hours it takes you to do it.
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OK, this is getting interesting:
Since OP seems to prefer we sniff around, for our own damn information. Fine. I came up with a DRUGSTORE there, at the address of 'Start-Up' (?? Huhhhggff ??).
A quick jump, onto Google maps, after having to dig around the Patent office for verification, the address, for Plasma Reactor start-up is....A DRUGSTORE.
Looks like a nice store, like a smaller version of Walgreens or Walmart, or something.
WO 2022104408
Filed application from:
18/38 MacPherson Street
Bronte, New South Wales 2024, Au
(that's a strip mall shopping center,
no visible Tokomaks here...)
So... no sign of this guy...? (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502686;image)
How about one-a-deez...? (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502692;image)
Please, double check... you know those pyramid ships can be sneaky. ;)
mnem
"Tricksy... tricksy little pyramids... we haaates them!"
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Nonlinear plasma:
Hey there, again. I'm still feeling thanks, for your info, regardless of strong disagreements. No one needs to stick around, on this particular ground, but I haven't shifted from my impression(s).
First, for better readability, try separating sensible sized paragraphs; all packed together increases reader impatience:. I was saying, to myself while reading:
"The lengthy details seem too deep, leaving me, the reader having to figure out just a basic, what does that do ?" Similar for the actual claims, in your Patent Application.
"...Oh, ok, propulsion of a.."...uh now THAT I would guess a ROCKET...but that's only because your thread starts out with that near the title, elsewhere in your bulked-out and out of control narratives.
So I'm thinking, 'Kinetic Propulsion' (?) But how ? Expecting something like: "Conventional Propeller action then occurs.".
But that gets overlooked, so then I had to speculate:
"OK, maybe it's mainly a FUSION novelty."
But there's no real connect made, you even state that the 'reader' can figure that out. Fusion to boil water to steam, and then, somehow, Forward Motion happens.
Wait, ...steam turns turbine turns Propeller; I got this,
but then why is a propeller NOVEL ?
I mean, isn't this just in the FUSION to steam catagory, with that propeller just a 'Prior Art' portion of the overall machine (Rocket)?
BTW, it's your 'brush-offs', that get people coming back, to twist your sheets a bit. Telling me 'Thats sweet of you' is just a bit offsetting.
Anyway, I think next maybe would be for someone, (me I guess), to go track down the assigned Patent Catagories, to see if includes 'Novel Propulsion methods', or just the 'Fusion'. Because, a propeller, being cranked by Darth Vader is STILL 'prior art'.
If you can separate each paragraph, even not perfectly, that will help your credibility. And confidence, in the invention, will help qwell that 'knee-jerk' reactive burst of visably USELESS and insulting back-responses you are getting. We still like you here, at least I do. Sounding maybe conflicted, but you could change a lot,and plus an argument with respectful boundaries is a learning experience. (I still don't like the text style).
Anyway, that Australian Patent officer, viewing your application, perhaps might want some proof of concept, I'm not able to provide that assessment.
"Money first, proof later..." just don't cut it.
Perhaps, in a special case, in lieu of a 'working prototype', perhaps the Australian examiner might allow a 'peer review', written up by a nearby University Physics person. That kind of thing, maybe spend a couple hundred on, just a little bit of exam / discussion with your friendly local Patent Attorney. Some of those things might better impress any potential investors.
With your (seemingly defiant) presentation of yourself, so far, as an investor I would want to buy the whole package, of the I.P. just to sweep you off to side, out of the way and unheard.
But I've got all kinds of rough handling that I've dished out, probably wrongly, so there we go...I'm not so perfect, as the next guy.
If you can work on the paragraph structure, a bit, and LEAVE OUT the magnetics bs, completely, I'd be tempted to read further. AND, even better, tune in on the other talented replies even better than my scrawled
musings.
I think maybe that's a FUSION method application, the propulsion not so much (novelty).
Thanks.
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OK, this is getting interesting:
Since OP seems to prefer we sniff around, for our own damn information. Fine. I came up with a DRUGSTORE there, at the address of 'Start-Up' (?? Huhhhggff ??).
A quick jump, onto Google maps, after having to dig around the Patent office for verification, the address, for Plasma Reactor start-up is....A DRUGSTORE.
Looks like a nice store, like a smaller version of Walgreens or Walmart, or something.
WO 2022104408
Filed application from:
18/38 MacPherson Street
Bronte, New South Wales 2024, Au
(that's a strip mall shopping center,
no visible Tokomaks here...)
Not unusual. My limited company registered address was above a strip club in East London. That's what happens when you buy one from a company registration service :(
So... no sign of this guy...? (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502686;image)
Hey that pedo is not coming back after we shoved a nuke up his poot hole :-DD
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So, nonlinearplasma, are we done yet? if I lock the thread will you get lost and not come back? I think we have established that no one here wants to put money into your piggy bank.
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Before you go and lock the thread, I'd like to introduce Scott to this person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5AIfuM0Uw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5AIfuM0Uw)
With this guy on your team you can only succeed!
McBryce.
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The whole idea of venting plasma from a fusion reactor to drive a prop/turbine is utterly ludicrous.
1. The constant loss of plasma would require fuel to be added continuously; no mean feat as you're causing cool spots wherever you inject new fuel, and the energy required to continuously heat new fuel to the 150 million Kelvin or so operating temperature would be not insignificant. It would be the equivalent of constantly having to apply start-up level energy to the reactor, which is the most energy hungry point of a fusion reaction.
2. The materials needed for such a prop/turbine do not exist (outside Star Trek et al). The reactor itself is never directly exposed to these temperatures; the magnetic field constricts the plasma and keeps it away from surfaces. Props and turbines work by direct contact with the fluid medium they work in. I know of no material that can directly withstand these temperatures, even allowing for the likely much reduced temperature in the "drive section" of this imaginary device due to expansion and therefore cooling of the plasma as it exits the reactor.
Certainly you aren't going to be able to 3DP such.
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Also we don't actually have any viable fusion reactors yet on which to build this...
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Indeed, and I was so vexed I forgot point 3:
Whilst the temperature inside a tokomak is huge, the pressure is not, it's actually quite low, the highest achieved to date is around 10 atmospheres. Not a very big pressure differential if you want to use it to provide thrust to a prop/turbine.
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Before you go and lock the thread, I'd like to introduce Scott to this person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5AIfuM0Uw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5AIfuM0Uw)
With this guy on your team you can only succeed!
McBryce.
To many noise kids and grandparents around me to watch it just now.
2 seperate 360° wqves around the toroid commonly referred to as a double helixs or a single 720° wave is the only possible configuration to produce a quadrupole. This is fairly simple stuff and well understood from every 4 pole motor on the planet and also the penning and paul traps. I suspect the polar flows are a single 720° wave, while the central toroid is a double helics. Each double helixs obviously completes 1 roll around the toroid axis in 1 rotation of the poloidal axis. Giving the 1° trajectory around the central toroidal axis and creating the increase in rotation speed on the sun at the equator.
The hydrogen atom wave function is a double helix as shown before.
Lets say we have 3 toroids of different size each with a double helical wave and we manage to stick a clamp meter around the entire toroid and measure the current in each
We get a reading of 10, 100 and 1000 amp, we know the resistance to the current is zero since its a superconductor. So are we all going to claim that the power of each toroid is zero since anything multiplied by zero equals zero? So rotating 1000 amps of current around a coil/toroid produces no magnetic field now? Voltage requires resistance.
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Also we don't actually have any viable fusion reactors yet on which to build this...
I dont know how many times ive said this is not a fusion reactor.
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The whole idea of venting plasma from a fusion reactor to drive a prop/turbine is utterly ludicrous.
1. The constant loss of plasma would require fuel to be added continuously; no mean feat as you're causing cool spots wherever you inject new fuel, and the energy required to continuously heat new fuel to the 150 million Kelvin or so operating temperature would be not insignificant. It would be the equivalent of constantly having to apply start-up level energy to the reactor, which is the most energy hungry point of a fusion reaction.
2. The materials needed for such a prop/turbine do not exist (outside Star Trek et al). The reactor itself is never directly exposed to these temperatures; the magnetic field constricts the plasma and keeps it away from surfaces. Props and turbines work by direct contact with the fluid medium they work in. I know of no material that can directly withstand these temperatures, even allowing for the likely much reduced temperature in the "drive section" of this imaginary device due to expansion and therefore cooling of the plasma as it exits the reactor.
Certainly you aren't going to be able to 3DP such.
First of all their is no constant lose of plasma. Its a closed circuit unless the plasma is used as thrust. Like any rocket in space 1 burn is all that is needed to speed the craft up. Maybe you should watch apollo 13 again. They werent burning fuel all the way to the moon. 😂
Secondly as stated countless times this is not a fusion reactor. Plasma temperature (energy since heat is a human construct) does not need to be 3 million decrees. Air has an ions density of between 3000 and 10000 ions per cm3 at sea level. It is the manipulation of the ions trajectory that causes foils to produce lift. Go to the NASA website explaining the incorrect lift theory's that are currently taught as gospel by physics teachers around the world. If the most common theory was true a sail boat would not be capable of producing lift.
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Indeed, and I was so vexed I forgot point 3:
Whilst the temperature inside a tokomak is huge, the pressure is not, it's actually quite low, the highest achieved to date is around 10 atmospheres. Not a very big pressure differential if you want to use it to provide thrust to a prop/turbine.
But a tokamak uses linear plasma, unless they are experimenting with magnetic islands, then it creates an explosive pressure gradient. As shown by the 2006 research paper into the subject.
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So, nonlinearplasma, are we done yet? if I lock the thread will you get lost and not come back? I think we have established that no one here wants to put money into your piggy bank.
You are welcome to go chat to others inventors on the forum Simon. Im happy replying when i have time.
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Not unusual. My limited company registered address was above a strip club in East London. That's what happens when you buy one from a company registration service :(
He probably expected to find my sail boat in the drive way too, along with a tokamak fusion reactor that i keep telling him is an entirely different design trying to do an entirely different thing.
I will make sure to tell the water postie to delivery all my mail to my gps coordinates next time. 😂
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I understand that some may find it entertaining, but IMHO allowing these kind of threads to survive more that the strictly necessary time to ascertain what its kind is, devaluates the forum.
It's why we have this particular forum section.
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Ummm... yeah... that video has nothing to to with the theoretical physics you're plagiarizing here; he's suggesting that all these ancient civilizations were somehow exposed to real-world examples turned into working technology. :o
So... a dissertation suggesting that the core premise of Stargate (aliens with FTL travel technology were actually all our old gods) was maybe real is somehow your proof that this technology is possible with our current level of scientific knowledge and manufacturing capability?
Okay... this is no longer amusing, even if you are a bot.
mnem
*toddles off to do something, even if it's wrong*
Just because he didnt consider the possiblity that they were drawing the inside of the sun after a micronova/recurrent nova. Remember they worshipped the sun as the life give. To me it sounds like she looked like this for around 3 days before recollecting the material she lost. And "god" said let there be light, died on the cross, is the southern cross. The squatterman is the son of god, the immaculate conception. Satan is Saturn. The 3 kings orions belts. If you want to go down stargate conspiracy theory stuff then by all means knock yourself out. But i perfere to think of it as a method of telling a story that need to be passed from generation to generation. Like all chinese whispers you have to take some info with a pinch of salt. Who knows how old the story is. But one thing is for sure our ancestor build working models of the solar system (greeks), they created a calander of our path around the galaxy, the 12 star signs are a calander, that takes a level of knowledge i think we would struggle with. We only got our calqnder of earths rotation correct a few hundred years ago. We had to remove 2 weeks in the 1800 if i recall correctly.
This is because the sun rolls around its second axis every 22 years. Its entire magnetosphere including our planet completes 1 extra rotation every 22 years. As shown in attached image. It shouldnt be 2 difficult to figure out how a rotating unbalanced system rotates around its second axis. This is why Einstein need time dilation to make his model work. Since time is a measurement of distance.
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I understand that some may find it entertaining, but IMHO allowing these kind of threads to survive more that the strictly necessary time to ascertain what its kind is, devaluates the forum.
It's why we have this particular forum section.
Yea just let it go, no one is forced to read it.
But a tokamak uses linear plasma, unless they are experimenting with magnetic islands, then it creates an explosive pressure gradient. As shown by the 2006 research paper into the subject.
Nonlinearplasma,
I know from checking that They (the Super-Smart people a.k.a physicists) trying to design fusion reactors have and/or are working on computer simulations to prove the designs are valid. Of course it's all based on math and the physics of all the materials used.
Do you plan on getting a computer simulation going to prove your design is valid? From what I saw it's a non-trivial thing to do (to say the least).
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It's why we have this particular forum section.
But, it is not necessarily meant for the actual creator/inventor/(possibly deluded individual) of the technology (dodgy), to be publicly ridiculed, played with and/or have possibly delusional theories given exposure, activities and so on.
TL;DR
It might be harmful to the OP, in some cases. But I'm not sure.
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I dont know how many times ive said this is not a fusion reactor.
To save me reading, many pages of 'stuff'. Where exactly is your 'energy' source coming from?
Also (IMPORTANT), is it a well proven, widely believed in scientific communities and/or proved in real life, energy source?
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Nonlinearplasma,
I know from checking that They (the Super-Smart people a.k.a physicists) trying to design fusion reactors have and/or are working on computer simulations to prove the designs are valid. Of course it's all based on math and the physics of all the materials used.
Do you plan on getting a computer simulation going to prove your design is valid? From what I saw it's a non-trivial thing to do (to say the least).
Offcourse if i get the opportunity to do that it would help immensely. I havent been in an english speaking country since arriving in europe. When i get home to scotland life will be considerably easier to communicate with "super smart people" that so far dont have a mechanism for the magnetic changes in the sun.
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It's why we have this particular forum section.
But, it is not necessarily meant for the actual creator/inventor/(possibly deluded individual) of the technology (dodgy), to be publicly ridiculed, played with and/or have possibly delusional theories given exposure, activities and so on.
TL;DR
It might be harmful to the OP, in some cases. But I'm not sure.
he can post on any other forum and get the same treatment. We are after all one of the more polite forums out there, if he can't take this then someone better stop him posting anywhere else. I'm starting to think he wants to start a mini cult that will just keep drip feeding little donations into his account so that he can not bother to work. Who knows, if he gets another chance to just sail the high seas he may come back with even more revelations.
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I dont know how many times ive said this is not a fusion reactor.
To save me reading, many pages of 'stuff'. Where exactly is your 'energy' source coming from?
Also (IMPORTANT), is it a well proven, widely believed in scientific communities and/or proved in real life, energy source?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299 (https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299)
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state (https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state)
"Self sustaining dyanmo" & "superionic plasma"
Im sure everyone will disagee but superionic plasma has to form a toroid to create the quadrupoles on our planet and sun. If it forms a toroid it must also form a z pinch. If it forms a z pinch its a seperate plasma flow to the toroid. Let the toroid form a self sustaining dynamo from the superconducting superionic plasma and tap the super compressed plasma energy in the z pinch to rotate the generator. As long as you dont slow the reactor down by stalling it by exacting to much power the self sustaining dynamo will keep producing the z pinch. And the z pinch will keep the reactor turning. How much input energy is required is a complete unknown, how much power can be extract is a complete unknown. Hence the need for R&D, but every time you convert energy from 1 form to another or transfere energy from 1 medium to another you lose energy. Im not transfereing energy from plasma to water tho the walls of the reactor. So it will inevitable be more efficent than a tokamak.
Not to mention the fact plasma expands at a far greater rate than steam does, as shown in this paper.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514)
Essential that means you use less volume of plasma to generate the same amount of thrust.
The same is true for burning hydrocarbons and oxygen. You can look up the terminal velocity of a craft using hydrocarbons, eventually the craft out runs the speed of expansion.
It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the plasma in the polidal jets of say a pulsar is going to expand faster than a rocket. You can read about it in the paper or multiple articles on the internet. Search for solar flare thruster and you should find plenty
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Before you go and lock the thread, I'd like to introduce Scott to this person: https://youtu.be/CF5AIfuM0Uw With this guy on your team you can only succeed! - McBryce.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1502986;image)
Wait.... what the...?
Did this guy just incorporate Body Thetans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_thetan) into Unified Field Theory...?!? :wtf:
mnem
Please forgive this math-defective old dwagon for his incomplete understanding* :-[
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https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299 (https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299)
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state (https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state)
"Self sustaining dyanmo" & "superionic plasma"
Im sure everyone will disagee but superionic plasma has to form a toroid to create the quadrupoles on our planet and sun. If it forms a toroid it must also form a z pinch. If it forms a z pinch its a seperate plasma flow to the toroid. Let the toroid form a self sustaining dynamo from the superconducting superionic plasma and tap the super compressed plasma energy in the z pinch to rotate the generator. As long as you dont slow the reactor down by stalling it by exacting to much power the self sustaining dynamo will keep producing the z pinch. And the z pinch will keep the reactor turning. How much input energy is required is a complete unknown, how much power can be extract is a complete unknown. Hence the need for R&D, but every time you convert energy from 1 form to another or transfere energy from 1 medium to another you lose energy. Im not transfereing energy from plasma to water tho the walls of the reactor. So it will inevitable be more efficent than a tokamak.
Not to mention the fact plasma expands at a far greater rate than steam does, as shown in this paper.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514)
Essential that means you use less volume of plasma to generate the same amount of thrust.
The same is true for burning hydrocarbons and oxygen. You can look up the terminal velocity of a craft using hydrocarbons, eventually the craft out runs the speed of expansion.
It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the plasma in the polidal jets of say a pulsar is going to expand faster than a rocket. You can read about it in the paper or multiple articles on the internet. Search for solar flare thruster and you should find plenty
Just because a particular power source, is extremely complicated, and perhaps, not well understood yet. Doesn't mean that you can start believing that it will be a source of unlimited energy (free energy), i.e. like a perpetual machine.
I get the impression, that you seem to think, that as long as this mechanism, is NOT abused. I.e. That too much energy in one go (or continuously), is NOT allowed. You can travel for huge distances, using this energy source, unlike limited, one-use power sources, such as batteries or burning rocket fuel (and ejecting it), to create motion, in space rockets.
Some theoretical energy sources, such as fusion energy (but also Nuclear fission types), can be expected/calculated, to have a huge amount of energy, which can be extracted, with some loss of mass, with the fuel materials (I.e. Einsteins's E = MC^2).
But in general, energy sources, based on some peoples ideas on how 'free energy', 'perpetual motion machines' and possibly other similar ideas. Are widely considered to be unproven (no experiments showing them working, except some suspected scam experiments, with hidden batteries/motors or secret mains connection wires, etc). have been demonstrated, as far as I'm aware.
Also, scientifically, they are considered, somewhat or fully, impossible. Since they would defeat a number of fundamental laws of Physics, such as conservation of energy, E = MC^2, making energy/matter out of nothing, etc.
If I'm mistaken, and that is NOT what you think. Then without Fusion, Fission, big tanks of rocket fuel, relying on getting enough solar energy with solar cells or relying on conservation of momentum, when the space vehicle is traveling at enough speed. Where exactly is any energy needed to power the space ships systems and/or CHANGES in speed, going to come from ?
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he can post on any other forum and get the same treatment. We are after all one of the more polite forums out there, if he can't take this then someone better stop him posting anywhere else. I'm starting to think he wants to start a mini cult that will just keep drip feeding little donations into his account so that he can not bother to work. Who knows, if he gets another chance to just sail the high seas he may come back with even more revelations.
That's a very good answer!
You're right, he can. That's the thing with the internet, these days. There are many good things about the internet. But also, a number of downsides. Such as that a person, simply has to feel or believe that something is right. They can then attempt to tell thousands or even millions of people, on what they think is the truth.
The human mind, seems to be too susceptible, to thinking or believing in things, which may not be right.
E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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The human mind, seems to be too susceptible, to thinking or believing in things, which may not be right.
That sums up the population of Tinder very well :-DD
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I dont know how many times ive said this is not a fusion reactor.
To save me reading, many pages of 'stuff'. Where exactly is your 'energy' source coming from?
Also (IMPORTANT), is it a well proven, widely believed in scientific communities and/or proved in real life, energy source?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299 (https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299)
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state (https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state)
"Self sustaining dyanmo" & "superionic plasma"
Im sure everyone will disagee but superionic plasma has to form a toroid to create the quadrupoles on our planet and sun. If it forms a toroid it must also form a z pinch. If it forms a z pinch its a seperate plasma flow to the toroid. Let the toroid form a self sustaining dynamo from the superconducting superionic plasma and tap the super compressed plasma energy in the z pinch to rotate the generator. As long as you dont slow the reactor down by stalling it by exacting to much power the self sustaining dynamo will keep producing the z pinch. And the z pinch will keep the reactor turning. How much input energy is required is a complete unknown, how much power can be extract is a complete unknown. Hence the need for R&D, but every time you convert energy from 1 form to another or transfere energy from 1 medium to another you lose energy. Im not transfereing energy from plasma to water tho the walls of the reactor. So it will inevitable be more efficent than a tokamak.
Not to mention the fact plasma expands at a far greater rate than steam does, as shown in this paper.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/an-alfvenic-reconnecting-plasmoid-thruster/F296E45CC504E8FF2586EA79117E2514)
Essential that means you use less volume of plasma to generate the same amount of thrust.
The same is true for burning hydrocarbons and oxygen. You can look up the terminal velocity of a craft using hydrocarbons, eventually the craft out runs the speed of expansion.
It shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the plasma in the polidal jets of say a pulsar is going to expand faster than a rocket. You can read about it in the paper or multiple articles on the internet. Search for solar flare thruster and you should find plenty
Yeah, okay; the issue here is a matter of scale. It's really hard to visualize the scale of what you're hoping to accomplish.
Even a math-defective old fart like me can see that the amounts of thrust generated vs what is needed here amounts to a butterfly fart vs a hurricane.
Our current VX-200 plasma drives produce ~5-10N or ~1-2 lbs of thrust... this is enough to hold ~16-32 ounces of mass aloft against Earth's gravity. In comparison, a cordless leaf-blower produces approximately 15N, and a big gas-powered one ~35N. Commercial jet engines produce between ~130,000 and 450,000 N thrust. EACH.
A (very quick) Google shows that an average electric power plant generates approx 350-500MW; there are of course much larger and much smaller ones out there. The US alone has approximately 1.14 million MW of electricity production total. Again, just going by a quick Google, power in to power out of one of these plants is at best approx 75% efficiency.
Now... here's where my simple maths fall down, because I don't know how to calculate how many N of thrust one needs inside an average commercial electric turbine to generate 1MW of electricity, but I know that 1Nm/s= 1 Watt, and that has to be sustained for 360 seconds to generate 1 W/hour of power.
Even with my horrible maths, I can see you need to make a plasma engine hundreds of millions of times more powerful than anything we have in order to replace even one commercial electric plant.
What you're suggesting is the equivalent of that episode of Star Trek where they fed the warp core recursively with its own warp bubble to achieve exponential warp velocity... but we don't even have a working warp engine yet. Or even a really effective ion drive.
mnem
The Three Laws of Thermodynamics For The Real World
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't even get out of the game.
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Just because a particular power source, is extremely complicated, and perhaps, not well understood yet. Doesn't mean that you can start believing that it will be a source of unlimited energy (free energy), i.e. like a perpetual machine.
I get the impression, that you seem to think, that as long as this mechanism, is NOT abused. I.e. That too much energy in one go (or continuously), is NOT allowed. You can travel for huge distances, using this energy source, unlike limited, one-use power sources, such as batteries or burning rocket fuel (and ejecting it), to create motion, in space rockets.
Some theoretical energy sources, such as fusion energy (but also Nuclear fission types), can be expected/calculated, to have a huge amount of energy, which can be extracted, with some loss of mass, with the fuel materials (I.e. Einsteins's E = MC^2).
But in general, energy sources, based on some peoples ideas on how 'free energy', 'perpetual motion machines' and possibly other similar ideas. Are widely considered to be unproven (no experiments showing them working, except some suspected scam experiments, with hidden batteries/motors or secret mains connection wires, etc). have been demonstrated, as far as I'm aware.
Also, scientifically, they are considered, somewhat or fully, impossible. Since they would defeat a number of fundamental laws of Physics, such as conservation of energy, E = MC^2, making energy/matter out of nothing, etc.
If I'm mistaken, and that is NOT what you think. Then without Fusion, Fission, big tanks of rocket fuel, relying on getting enough solar energy with solar cells or relying on conservation of momentum, when the space vehicle is traveling at enough speed. Where exactly is any energy needed to power the space ships systems and/or CHANGES in speed, going to come from ?
Simon said these process are "well understood" and you say they arent, which is it?
The drag created by the solar wind on our magnetotail should be slowing our planet down, but 2020 had 26 of the fast days on record. Where does that energy come from? Scientifically they say the earth spins because the gas cloud was spinning when it formed, i can only assume they think from some form of gravitational collapse. That was a long time ago, and we are still rotating so that sounds like perpetual motion to me. Does fusion or fission contribute to the energy of earths rotation now as well?
How about we walk before we can run. First we have to built the reactor, refine it and see what is possible. The internal combustion engine is basically an advancement of the steam engine and it is still being improved upon 200 years later. If ITER works how long do you think it will take us to refine that process down to a useable source of power that we can get into orbit? We have spent decade's of considerable man hours and money on it so far and havent really got anywhere close to that point. Maybe thats because the power source of the sun is MHD and not fusion. Fusion being a by product of MHD since all fusion reactors use MHD to control and confine the plasma.
The chances are, any ship for deep space exploration would use a combination of technologies such as the solar flare propulsion system. That system still needs a power source.
If a plasma superconductor can be formed inside the reactor then there is no resistance to stop it from rotating. I assume you agree that plasma is an electrically conducting fluid, and that a superconductor has no resistance once the structure of the toroid has a trajectory of around 1.1° it will become a superconductor as shown in the link from MIT with graphene. If you made a toroid out of graphene using the magic angle for the trajectory of the electron and sent 1000A around it, where would the resistance come from to stop the 1000A of current from rotating? Thus producing a z pinch and a magnetic field continuously
https://news.mit.edu/2020/twists-magic-angle-graphene-map-0508
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The drag created by the solar wind on our magnetotail should be slowing our planet down, but 2020 had 26 of the fast days on record. Where does that energy come from? Scientifically they say the earth spins because the gas cloud was spinning when it formed, i can only assume they think from some form of gravitational collapse. That was a long time ago, and we are still rotating so that sounds like perpetual motion to me. Does fusion or fission contribute to the energy of earths rotation now as well?
Err what? the earth spins in the same way a spinning top does. It was form by stuff colliding and stuff has collided with it and this is what caused it to spin the way it does today. Just the result of random stuff hitting other stuff. Given that space has nothing in it to offer friction it will continue to spin for a very very long time, simply because there is no reason for it to slow down. In the same way you say your rocket ship only needs to expel material to accelerate not to just coast through space.
When the chinese built their mega damn hydroelectric station and filled the artificial lake they had created for it, the earths rotation slowed by 1µs per day. This is because the lake/reservoir is quite high up and holding more water up there than there was before was enough of a shift of mass compared to that of the earth that it caused the ever so slight slowing down of our rotation.
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Yeah, okay; the issue here is a matter of scale. It's really hard to visualize the scale of what you're hoping to accomplish.
Even a math-defective old fart like me can see that the amounts of thrust generated vs what is needed here amounts to a butterfly fart vs a hurricane.
Our current VX-200 plasma drives produce ~5-10N or ~1-2 lbs of thrust... this is enough to hold ~16-32 ounces of mass aloft against Earth's gravity. In comparison, a cordless leaf-blower produces approximately 15N, and a big gas-powered one ~35N. Commercial jet engines produce between ~130,000 and 450,000 N thrust. EACH.
A (very quick) Google shows that an average electric power plant generates approx 350-500MW; there are of course much larger and much smaller ones out there. The US alone has approximately 1.14 million MW of electricity production total. Again, just going by a quick Google, power in to power out of one of these plants is at best approx 75% efficiency.
Now... here's where my simple maths fall down, because I don't know how to calculate how many N of thrust one needs inside an average commercial electric turbine to generate 1MW of electricity, but I know that 1Nm/s= 1 Watt, and that has to be sustained for 360 seconds to generate 1 W/hour of power.
Even with my horrible maths, I can see you need to make a plasma engine hundreds of millions of times more powerful than anything we have in order to replace even one commercial electric plant.
What you're suggesting is the equivalent of that episode of Star Trek where they fed the warp core recursively with its own warp bubble to achieve exponential warp velocity... but we don't even have a working warp engine yet. Or even a really effective ion drive.
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The Three Laws of Thermodynamics For The Real World
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't even get out of the game.
Im trying to recreate anthony perratts squatter man inside my invention, using the pressure gradient in the North pole of the plasma rotation as the plasma exits the z pinch to rotate the reactor which can then be used to turn a generator. A prototype could be as small as a soccer ball to possible 1m in diameter. If you succeed at that then it will scale up to basically any size you want, only limited to you manufacturing capabilities and materials. Which will increase dramatically once you bring home some minerals from the asteriod belt. Imagine the tungsten that will be out there and possible better metal than even that. Who knows but we have to go to find out.
We have never successfully or even attempted to create a superconducting plasma toroid. All research has been focus on fusion to my knowledge. Superconductors are useless in the windings of a generator since we require voltage to be produced by the generator and voltage requires resistance. Plasma is a different animal, because it isnt trying to supply the electrical grid we can use it to generate the z pinch which can then be used to pump plasma around the turbine blades of the reactor.
"Feeding the wrap drive" essential a toroid does feeds itself, plasma goes one way, electrical current the other, constantly to form the "infinity loop" and since resistance has been reduced to zero from the double helical trajectory the toroid forms the same lattice structure that is found in the MIT graphene research.
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Err what? the earth spins in the same way a spinning top does. It was form by stuff colliding and stuff has collided with it and this is what caused it to spin the way it does today. Just the result of random stuff hitting other stuff. Given that space has nothing in it to offer friction it will continue to spin for a very very long time, simply because there is no reason for it to slow down. In the same way you say your rocket ship only needs to expel material to accelerate not to just coast through space.
When the chinese built their mega damn hydroelectric station and filled the artificial lake they had created for it, the earths rotation slowed by 1µs per day. This is because the lake/reservoir is quite high up and holding more water up there than there was before was enough of a shift of mass compared to that of the earth that it caused the ever so slight slowing down of our rotation.
https://phys.org/news/2021-01-earth-faster.html
I must have missed that big random thing hitting us in 2020. Maybe the virus came from an asteriod, E.T trying to wipe us all out so he had the planet to himself 😂
Does the teardrop shape not suggest drag to you? The solar wind is a pretty fast medium and it certainly is not nothing over millions of years.
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Yes your article says what I just explained. Sure it may alter but nothing is making it spin, that energy was impated billions of years ago. Yes it may vary, sit on a chair and have yourself spun around with your arms close to your chest, now put them out, you slow down, pull them back in and you speed up again, I dunno, must be the solar wind or something.
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Yes your article says what I just explained. Sure it may alter but nothing is making it spin, that energy was impated billions of years ago. Yes it may vary, sit on a chair and have yourself spun around with your arms close to your chest, now put them out, you slow down, pull them back in and you speed up again, I dunno, must be the solar wind or something.
They said that without understanding that manipulating wind around a curved object creates lift. Spin a ball and drop it from a height and see if it falls straight. Or just figure out how a sail boat works. ;)
Are you claiming that a magnetic field rotating inside another magnetic field does not generate torque? That would be an impressive claim for any electrical person. ;)
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Maybe thats because the power source of the sun is MHD and not fusion. Fusion being a by product of MHD since all fusion reactors use MHD to control and confine the plasma.
How does MHD 'produce' power? Never mind, don't bother with the answer--I'm sure it involves applying Coulomb's law to 'Tesla valves' over the 4D quadrupole domain and that's too complex for me anyway. You're just proposing another perpetual motion scam here, all dressed up in some truly terrible technobabbling. The only amusing (and distressing) part about this show is that you found a patent agent willing to take your money. Unfortunately I'm not too surprised about that.
Even the money-flinging VCs and gullible crowdfunding operations are going to shun you--if they haven't already--because going by your own promotional website you have nothing--no team, no product, no education and no achievements other than building a wind turbine at age 12. That's not quite a good enough story to sell, even in the crazy world of startups. However, I see that your website simply asks for 'donations' which conveniently makes it as difficult as possible to prosecute you for fraud. So you can still pick off the vulnerable pensioner or whoever you manage to charm with your stories. I wish you the worst of luck.
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Yes your article says what I just explained. Sure it may alter but nothing is making it spin, that energy was impated billions of years ago. Yes it may vary, sit on a chair and have yourself spun around with your arms close to your chest, now put them out, you slow down, pull them back in and you speed up again, I dunno, must be the solar wind or something.
They said that without understanding that manipulating wind around a curved object creates lift. Spin a ball and drop it from a height and see if it falls straight. Or just figure out how a sail boat works. ;)
Are you claiming that a magnetic field rotating inside another magnetic field does not generate torque? That would be an impressive claim for any electrical person. ;)
Yes I am and I'm not going to explain to you why because you would not understand,
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Yes your article says what I just explained. Sure it may alter but nothing is making it spin, that energy was impated billions of years ago. Yes it may vary, sit on a chair and have yourself spun around with your arms close to your chest, now put them out, you slow down, pull them back in and you speed up again, I dunno, must be the solar wind or something.
They said that without understanding that manipulating wind around a curved object creates lift. Spin a ball and drop it from a height and see if it falls straight. Or just figure out how a sail boat works. ;)
Are you claiming that a magnetic field rotating inside another magnetic field does not generate torque? That would be an impressive claim for any electrical person. ;)
Yes I am and I'm not going to explain to you why because you would not understand,
Comedy gold. So when you see an induction motor rotating do you think its sci fi stuff? Your mind must be blown everyday.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
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Maybe thats because the power source of the sun is MHD and not fusion. Fusion being a by product of MHD since all fusion reactors use MHD to control and confine the plasma.
How does MHD 'produce' power? Never mind, don't bother with the answer--I'm sure it involves applying Coulomb's law to 'Tesla valves' over the 4D quadrupole domain and that's too complex for me anyway. You're just proposing another perpetual motion scam here, all dressed up in some truly terrible technobabbling. The only amusing (and distressing) part about this show is that you found a patent agent willing to take your money. Unfortunately I'm not too surprised about that.
Even the money-flinging VCs and gullible crowdfunding operations are going to shun you--if they haven't already--because going by your own promotional website you have nothing--no team, no product, no education and no achievements other than building a wind turbine at age 12. That's not quite a good enough story to sell, even in the crazy world of startups. However, I see that your website simply asks for 'donations' which conveniently makes it as difficult as possible to prosecute you for fraud. So you can still pick off the vulnerable pensioner or whoever you manage to charm with your stories. I wish you the worst of luck.
The wind vane i designed and built has steered my yacht halfway around the world.
Oh and sailing solo halfway around the world is an achievement. If you dont think so go down to your local yacht club and ask any sailor. Solo sailing is considered 1 of the greatest challenges a human being can do, the climbing Everest of the sailing world. But yeah im sure you have done something so much better.
Also patents are hard to get. Just another achievement to my name. Cant wait to see your attempt.
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
Yeah that will happen when you get owned with multiple scientfic papers and just cant admit it.
Im enjoying myself a lot
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
Yeah that will happen when you get owned with multiple scientfic papers and just cant admit it.
Im enjoying myself a lot
It’s only boring because I was expecting mathematics and I get crazy instead.
I’ve gone back to working out 2-port network simulations and laplace transforms.
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Maybe thats because the power source of the sun is MHD and not fusion. Fusion being a by product of MHD since all fusion reactors use MHD to control and confine the plasma.
How does MHD 'produce' power? Never mind, don't bother with the answer--I'm sure it involves applying Coulomb's law to 'Tesla valves' over the 4D quadrupole domain and that's too complex for me anyway. You're just proposing another perpetual motion scam here, all dressed up in some truly terrible technobabbling. The only amusing (and distressing) part about this show is that you found a patent agent willing to take your money. Unfortunately I'm not too surprised about that.
Even the money-flinging VCs and gullible crowdfunding operations are going to shun you--if they haven't already--because going by your own promotional website you have nothing--no team, no product, no education and no achievements other than building a wind turbine at age 12. That's not quite a good enough story to sell, even in the crazy world of startups. However, I see that your website simply asks for 'donations' which conveniently makes it as difficult as possible to prosecute you for fraud. So you can still pick off the vulnerable pensioner or whoever you manage to charm with your stories. I wish you the worst of luck.
The wind vane i designed and built has steered my yacht halfway around the world.
Which means (possible sarcasm follows) that tomorrow, you should be given an unconditional $250,000,000,000 to head/design/lead/manage a massive project, to create a free energy, sorry I mean perpetual motion machine, my apologies again.
I mean a new fuel-less, unlimited power/energy source, for powering a new range of very long range, super space crafts. Better than anything, yet shown in any science fiction movie/book or TV show.
So, if I drive for 500 miles. That somewhat rare achievement (in the UK), entitles me to design twenty new type, nuclear reactors, for the UK's energy needs?
I agree, sailing half-way round the world, IS an achievement. But it doesn't entitle you to design/invent a massive new energy source, which most scientists (apparently), don't agree with.
TL;DR
You need valid qualifications, acceptance in the academic community and/or good/valid experimental results.
NOT; I've sailed half-way round the world, watched water splish-splosh around for ages, so you MUST believe me, and give me $15,000,000 funding, no questions asked.
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The wind vane i designed and built has steered my yacht halfway around the world.
So put the details of that on your website so everyone can be impressed...or not, depending.
Also patents are hard to get. Just another achievement to my name.
As you are going to find out, if you haven't already. And patents are expensive whether you get them or not. Since it appears that your application has not even gotten to the first office action, saying that you 'have a patent' seems to be a good case of actionable fraud if that statement is made in association with a solicitation of funds. You don't have a patent, nor are you likely to. And even if your patent agent manages to slide it by somehow--a result I can't rule out because I've seen some pretty bad patents--it will be entirely unenforceable and worthless. And VC investors and the like take a much closer look at even issued patents nowadays than they did 20 years ago.
I'm not sure exactly what is going on with you, but if you are at all sincere here and not just making a big joke, try to lose the delusion that your magical brain gives you insights that elude the rest of the scientific community and realize that you are just another meatbag like the rest of us.
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Which means (possible sarcasm follows) that tomorrow, you should be given an unconditional $250,000,000,000 to head/design/lead/manage a massive project, to create a free energy, sorry I mean perpetual motion machine, my apologies again.
I mean a new fuel-less, unlimited power/energy source, for powering a new range of very long range, super space crafts. Better than anything, yet shown in any science fiction movie/book or TV show.
So, if I drive for 500 miles. That somewhat rare achievement (in the UK), entitles me to design twenty new type, nuclear reactors, for the UK's energy needs?
I agree, sailing half-way round the world, IS an achievement. But it doesn't entitle you to design/invent a massive new energy source, which most scientists (apparently), don't agree with.
TL;DR
You need valid qualifications, acceptance in the academic community and/or good/valid experimental results.
NOT; I've sailed half-way round the world, watched water splish-splosh around for ages, so you MUST believe me, and give me $15,000,000 funding, no questions asked.
Youve asked a lot of questions and i just gave you the best and most recent papers on MHD self sustaining dynamo, Plasmoid thrust and the explosive growth of non linear magnetic islands. When you say i need acceptance in the acedemic community and i gave you the papers that they have already accepted from others research. Which i assume you all ignored. As stated previously i have not given any information for the actual acedemic community to agree with, unless you think a cosmology forum is full of actual professor of acedemia.
I imagine the ppl there are much like here, where claims that a magnetic field rotating inside another magnetic field does not produce torque, which is obviously contradictory to millions of electric motors already producing torque to power our world for the last 100 years.
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
Yeah that will happen when you get owned with multiple scientfic papers and just cant admit it. Im enjoying myself a lot
It’s only boring because I was expecting mathematics and I get crazy instead. I’ve gone back to working out 2-port network simulations and laplace transforms.
If it was as good as the usual garden-variety manic street-preacher crazy it would be more fun... A few pages back I was thinking "Awww, just treat it like it is some stoopit bot..." and play with it like a dog & a pull-toy, but even that didn't work; an actual bot is smarter than this. :o
Right now, I'm envisioning something more like this on the other end of the internet connection: (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/140/664/bfb.gif)
mnem
I'd hang around to see what comes next... but I'd really rather stand in the the middle of a busy intersection and drill screws through my feet.
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Anybody else getting fed up with the 'Recent Posts list being clogged up with Non Linear bloody Plasma Reactor posts? >:(
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If the density of posts is great enough, maybe some with begin to fuse together and it will generate enough energy to run the forum server...
Heard it here first. Patent pending
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
Yeah that will happen when you get owned with multiple scientfic papers and just cant admit it. Im enjoying myself a lot
It’s only boring because I was expecting mathematics and I get crazy instead. I’ve gone back to working out 2-port network simulations and laplace transforms.
If it was as good as the usual garden-variety manic street-preacher crazy it would be more fun... A few pages back I was thinking "Awww, just treat it like it is some stoopit bot..." and play with it like a dog & a pull-toy, but even that didn't work; an actual bot is smarter than this. :o
Right now, I'm envisioning something more like this on the other end of the internet connection: (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/140/664/bfb.gif)
mnem
I'd hang around to see what comes next... but I'd really rather stand in the the middle of a busy intersection and drill screws through my feet.
I was thinking some good old Happy Noodle Boy
(https://imgur.com/jRh0cx8.jpg)
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The wind vane i designed and built has steered my yacht halfway around the world.
So put the details of that on your website so everyone can be impressed...or not, depending.
Also patents are hard to get. Just another achievement to my name.
As you are going to find out, if you haven't already. And patents are expensive whether you get them or not. Since it appears that your application has not even gotten to the first office action, saying that you 'have a patent' seems to be a good case of actionable fraud if that statement is made in association with a solicitation of funds. You don't have a patent, nor are you likely to. And even if your patent agent manages to slide it by somehow--a result I can't rule out because I've seen some pretty bad patents--it will be entirely unenforceable and worthless. And VC investors and the like take a much closer look at even issued patents nowadays than they did 20 years ago.
I'm not sure exactly what is going on with you, but if you are at all sincere here and not just making a big joke, try to lose the delusion that your magical brain gives you insights that elude the rest of the scientific community and realize that you are just another meatbag like the rest of us.
Read the 3rd paragraph of the very first post, it specifically says patent pending. Then proceeded to give you a link to the published pending patent. It has been demend by the Australian patent office as "unique and inventive". It would not have been published as a panding patent if it wasnt.
Im also asking for crowdfunding and/or for ppl to share the idea with friends to help get the patent into the public light so that it can be scrutinized by others. You have did a decent job and i have given you plenty of published papers to read further into if you wish.
The cosmos forum gave me plenty ideas for helping explain it, not so much here because i already had this material ready to share from that thread.
Read the 3rd paragraph of the very first post, it is specifically says patent pending. Then proceeded to give you a link to the published pending patent. It has been demend by the Australian patent office as "unique and inventive". It would not have been published as a panding patent if it wasnt.
Im also asking for crowdfunding and/or for ppl to share the idea with friends to help get the patent into the public light so that it can be scrutinized by others.
This was my first windvane on my old yacht, trim tab designs are super accurate at steering.
https://youtu.be/fsq5WJ4ySdQ
This was the second design, i had to turn it into a servo pendulum type as the rudder was under the transom on my new yacht.
I also invented a reefing system that allows for linear sail control of each reef. Meaning the draft of the sail can be changed on each reef, something no other reefing system can do without the clew moving at an angle to the boom, read the last comment, that guy just sailed a 55ft camper and Nicholson called Pacha from Australia to Portugal around cape of good hope. He plans to put the system on his yacht. I could have patent that but i would never have made any money off it.
https://youtu.be/eFDIauYIF-8
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Read the 3rd paragraph of the very first post, it specifically says patent pending. Then proceeded to give you a link to the published pending patent. It has been demend by the Australian patent office as "unique and inventive". It would not have been published as a panding patent if it wasnt.
OK, so you get it right one place and in others you still claim to 'have a patent'. You don't. And your statement about publication is false, full stop. Like the US and most other places, the Australian patent office publishes unexamined patent applications after 18 months. That publication is automatic and does not imply that anyone has even read it, let alone "deemed it as unique and inventive". If your patent agent has told you this, shame on them--otherwise it is you who is lying. Have you requested examination yet?
https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/applying-patent/standard-patent-application-process/publication-standard-patent (https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/applying-patent/standard-patent-application-process/publication-standard-patent)
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OK, so you get it right one place and in others you still claim to 'have a patent'. You don't. And your statement about publication is false, full stop. Like the US and most other places, the Australian patent office publishes unexamined patent applications after 18 months. That publication is automatic and does not imply that anyone has even read it, let alone "deemed it as unique and inventive". If your patent agent has told you this, shame on them--otherwise it is you who is lying. Have you requested examination yet?
https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/applying-patent/standard-patent-application-process/publication-standard-patent (https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/applying-patent/standard-patent-application-process/publication-standard-patent)
It not my fault you didnt read the very first post mate. The patent application is moving along just like every other one does. The ITS report came back and this is a quote from my patent attorneys email to me about it.
"This means that the Examiner considered the claimed features to define a patentable invention".
Feel free to take the crocodile tears elsewhere if you arent even willing to read the very first post. The patent process is a long one as you must know. The invention can be seen by everyone as a new idea. And yes many patents even the good once like tesla A.C generation patent never produces any profit for the inventor.
Tesla biggest mistake in my opinion, had he had the money to complete other inventions who knows where we would be. Regarless of your opinion of the mans personality, he was a genius. He invented the induction motor after visualizing the magnetic field lines of the sun. Yet here some are saying magnetic field dont generate torque in an electrical forum. I think Tesla's induction motor is well established at produceing torque. Maybe thats just me.
Mine might be the same, only time will tell. Sometimes its more important to the inventor to take the hit and let the idea run free.
I came into this world with nothing and i will leave it with some great memories. Have you ever seen dolphins playing on the bow wave of a yacht at midnight in phosphorescent plankton? It like watching smoke over a foil in a wind tunnel. Absolutely incredible thing to see. Nature has some of the best physics experiments you could ask for if you know where to look. It actually gave me the idea to change the density of water flowing tho a nozzel using DC current. Current flow parallel to water current increased the time taken to drain the head of water was 0.5 sec longer than no current. Current flow anti parallel to water current decreased the time to drain the head of water. Its an easy and interesting experiment. I wish i had more voltage and current available to me, but the biggest motor on the boat is only 1200w and it was running with no load at 12v. But its an interesting and easy experiment to manipulate water density.
Uses for this would be in a hydroelectric powerstation, since they use DC in the rotor of the generator anyway. Its a free increase in efficiency since the nozzle is just a transmission line for the rotor current.
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I wish I'd have thought of just saying "It'll work, don't be dumb, look at these pictures" when I was getting my MS. It would have saved a lot of time doing simulations of icky nonlinear math...
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I understand that some may find it entertaining, but IMHO allowing these kind of threads to survive more that the strictly necessary time to ascertain what its kind is, devaluates the forum.
As already mentioned, you aren't being forced to read the stuff here. As to devaluing things:
1. I think it gains value by having decent refutation out in the open, which can be referred to. Nothing promotes conspiracy theories better than arbitrary censuring.
2. Despite many of the threads majoring in complete bollox, I still find interesting and educational material. Typically from those pointing out the flaws, it is info that I would be unlikely to otherwise come across or search for.
So long there isn't an actual war started (or p*litics mentioned) I think these threads are a net gain for those viewers who care to think about things rather than just jump on one side or the other, because.
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Well this thread is about as fun as pissing out a kidney stone now…
Yeah that will happen when you get owned with multiple scientfic papers and just cant admit it.
Im enjoying myself a lot
It’s only boring because I was expecting mathematics and I get crazy instead.
I’ve gone back to working out 2-port network simulations and laplace transforms.
It's followed the usual pattern. Just one step left.
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Also patents are hard to get.
Actually, it can be pretty simple if you play the game and can afford the cost.
In your case, though, the patent is pending, isn't it? That means nothing at all as to the reality of the invention (it's still in the stage where it could be refused by the patent office). It's entire worth is saying to potential investors that if it turns out to be a pukka patentable invention, you already have dibs on it.
Probably - sometimes patents cover a patentable thing that isn't actually the critical part of the invention, solely so the marketing blurb can say it's patented. Likewise, being able to say it's patent pending is just a marketing tickbox.
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Youve asked a lot of questions and i just gave you the best and most recent papers on MHD self sustaining dynamo, Plasmoid thrust and the explosive growth of non linear magnetic islands. When you say i need acceptance in the acedemic community and i gave you the papers that they have already accepted from others research. Which i assume you all ignored. As stated previously i have not given any information for the actual acedemic community to agree with, unless you think a cosmology forum is full of actual professor of acedemia.
Turning a possibly valid idea, supported by research paper(s), which shows that something might work, at a minute, atomic level. Doesn't mean that you can take that idea, and then say "I've invented that/this", give me $15,000,000 to pursue it.
Analogy and question (some/all details made up, for analogy):
What would you say to me, if I suggested the following:
There is a research paper, saying that a tiny atomic particle, might be persuaded to 'teleport' a tiny distance. It might even 'time travel', at the same time. E.g. A Quantum tunneling effect.
Does that mean I can dictate a patent pending application, then request $15,00,000 from a suitable online funding organisation. Because I plan to make a teleporting and time traveling machine, which I've already got the patent for, and I want to call it, a 'Tardis', ("Time And Relative Dimension In Space", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS) ).
When I was 12, I made a paper-mâché version of a Dalek, so feel 100% confident in supporting my claims.
What would you say?
Good idea, here's £10,000 towards your goal, and good luck?
Or, I'm sorry, I'm not 100% convinced that your idea, is 100% sound, even if you did make a nice Darlek, a while ago?
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1503337;image)
N.B. Please don't take my post as a fun making exercise. I'm trying to ILLUSTRATE a point here.
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"This means that the Examiner considered the claimed features to define a patentable invention".
Wherever that comes from it is pure bullshit--unless there is some looseness with terms here and the "examiner' is someone in your agents office or something like that. I asked "have you requested examination yet?". And?
It actually gave me the idea to change the density of water flowing tho a nozzel using DC current. Current flow parallel to water current increased the time taken to drain the head of water was 0.5 sec longer than no current. Current flow anti parallel to water current decreased the time to drain the head of water. Its an easy and interesting experiment. I wish i had more voltage and current available to me, but the biggest motor on the boat is only 1200w and it was running with no load at 12v. But its an interesting and easy experiment to manipulate water density.
So the sun is not powered by fusion and you can easily change water density. Any other mainstream science you'd like to debunk?
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Yes your article says what I just explained. Sure it may alter but nothing is making it spin, that energy was impated billions of years ago. Yes it may vary, sit on a chair and have yourself spun around with your arms close to your chest, now put them out, you slow down, pull them back in and you speed up again, I dunno, must be the solar wind or something.
They said that without understanding that manipulating wind around a curved object creates lift. Spin a ball and drop it from a height and see if it falls straight. Or just figure out how a sail boat works. ;)
Are you claiming that a magnetic field rotating inside another magnetic field does not generate torque? That would be an impressive claim for any electrical person. ;)
Yes I am and I'm not going to explain to you why because you would not understand,
Comedy gold. So when you see an induction motor rotating do you think its sci fi stuff? Your mind must be blown everyday.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My mind would be blown if the entire induction motor were rotating........ perhaps you can be more specific about the relationship between these two fields.
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I just sent this and all the other illustration to my cousin, he is a carpenter to trade. The picture attached was his reply, it took him 5 mins, including drawing the arrow on the picture lol.
Under the picture it said....
"This is what we want, this force?"
In 5 years time you lot will still be scratching your head 😂😂
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I just sent this and all the other illustration to my cousin, he is a carpenter to trade. The picture attached was his reply, it took him 5 mins, including drawing the arrow on the picture lol.
Under the picture it said....
"This is what we want, this force?"
In 5 years time you lot will still be scratching your head 😂😂
You're activating my wicked streak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH83SsL_fIQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH83SsL_fIQ)
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my cousin, he is a carpenter to trade
Also, I'm NOT familiar, with that BRANCH ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch pun INTENTIONAL!), of Science.
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Also patents are hard to get.
Actually, it can be pretty simple if you play the game and can afford the cost.
In your case, though, the patent is pending, isn't it? That means nothing at all as to the reality of the invention (it's still in the stage where it could be refused by the patent office). It's entire worth is saying to potential investors that if it turns out to be a pukka patentable invention, you already have dibs on it.
Probably - sometimes patents cover a patentable thing that isn't actually the critical part of the invention, solely so the marketing blurb can say it's patented. Likewise, being able to say it's patent pending is just a marketing tickbox.
That fine when your a major corporations, take dysons 100000rpm motor, i think he patent every tiny part of it separately so he couldnt be screwed like he was with his first ones. I fully expect to be screwed on this. No big deal, i patented it so i could claim rights over understanding that gravity is coulomb's law applied to plasma. Since accelerating plasma attracts and increases the density of the medium. Since gravity controls the density of compressible fluids. Obviously the patent gives the added bonus of possiblity becoming an extremely valuable investment. Plus academia could have been running multiple models and ideas at the same time but choice to just use 1. Even althougn people like eric laithwaite had been telling them since the 70's that the laws of motion need updating. When a man of his engineering ability says that and academia comes back and says your not the first person to say that eric, but we arent allowed to. He says almost exactly that in an interview if you are interested in listen to his genius.
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My mind would be blown if the entire induction motor were rotating........ perhaps you can be more specific about the relationship between these two fields.
If it wasnt bolted down what would happen to it? Now consider that happening in as you put it the "emptiness of space" with nothing to stop the intial jerk of rotation, what would happen to the entire induction motor.
We must be close to you pick bits of brain out of your keyboard?
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my cousin, he is a carpenter to trade
Also, I'm NOT familiar, with that BRANCH ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch pun INTENTIONAL!), of Science.
It called the common sense BRANCH.
Some ppl understand that a wave merging on an axis amplify to create a density change in the medium.
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my cousin, he is a carpenter to trade
Also, I'm NOT familiar, with that BRANCH ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch pun INTENTIONAL!), of Science.
It called the common sense BRANCH.
Some ppl understand that a wave merging on an axis amplify to create a density change in the medium.
It shouldn't be down to what people like your cousin think. It should be what various successful scientists, think. Such as your suggested (although a bit controversial):
Capitalization corrected:
Eric Laithwaite
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"This means that the Examiner considered the claimed features to define a patentable invention".
Wherever that comes from it is pure bullshit--unless there is some looseness with terms here and the "examiner' is someone in your agents office or something like that. I asked "have you requested examination yet?". And?
It actually gave me the idea to change the density of water flowing tho a nozzel using DC current. Current flow parallel to water current increased the time taken to drain the head of water was 0.5 sec longer than no current. Current flow anti parallel to water current decreased the time to drain the head of water. Its an easy and interesting experiment. I wish i had more voltage and current available to me, but the biggest motor on the boat is only 1200w and it was running with no load at 12v. But its an interesting and easy experiment to manipulate water density.
So the sun is not powered by fusion and you can easily change water density. Any other mainstream science you'd like to debunk?
Uses for this would be in a hydroelectric powerstation, since they use DC in the rotor of the generator anyway. Its a free increase in efficiency since the nozzle is just a transmission line for the rotor current.
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Well while we are at it i debunk coriolis effect sometime ago.
And the tidal wave being caused by the pull of the moon and sun is easily debunked by the north Australian continents sinusoidal loops and nodes as shown in the attached images. Its common sense to know that 12m of water either side of 3m of water. Common sense say that cant come from 1 buldge of water travelling tho the timor sea.
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No big deal, i patented it so i could claim rights over understanding that gravity is coulomb's law applied to plasma.
Despite the fact that it is all gibberish, that statement is still clearly not patentable subject material and wouldn't be even if it made sense.
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Capitalization corrected:
Eric Laithwaite
You clutching at straws to find fault with what im saying now brother. How about you go read the MHD paper i shared to you? Im sure all the typos have been pulled from it.
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No big deal, i patented it so i could claim rights over understanding that gravity is coulomb's law applied to plasma.
Despite the fact that it is all gibberish, that statement is still clearly not patentable subject material and wouldn't be even if it made sense.
I didnt patent the statement. And even if it takes everyone else 100 year to catch up i still have the bragging rights when proven
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I didnt patent the statement. And even if it takes everyone else 100 year to catch up i still have the bragging rights when proven
Well then you won't have any rights over it, will you? Oh, OK, bragging rights. As if you feel constrained in that area...
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I still don't get the "I expect to get screwed out of my revolutionary idea... go to this bland squarespace website and give me money" angle.
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Capitalization corrected:
Eric Laithwaite
You clutching at straws to find fault with what im saying now brother. How about you go read the MHD paper i shared to you? Im sure all the typos have been pulled from it.
I'm attempting to explain/suggest, that your (apparently) non-scientific cousin, who you seem to say is a carpenter. Does NOT hold the same high regard, as a well known, famous Physics Professor, or similar, such as Professor Eric Laithwaite. That is the point, I was trying to make.
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My mind would be blown if the entire induction motor were rotating........ perhaps you can be more specific about the relationship between these two fields.
If it wasnt bolted down what would happen to it? Now consider that happening in as you put it the "emptiness of space" with nothing to stop the intial jerk of rotation, what would happen to the entire induction motor.
We must be close to you pick bits of brain out of your keyboard?
You would have to be slightly specific about the specs of the motor to know what would happen in space.
So an induction motor has two rotating fields you say, maybe you can explain how this works. maybe you can muster something more sensible that the rest of your crap.
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I'm attempting to explain/suggest, that your (apparently) non-scientific cousin, who you seem to say is a carpenter. Does NOT hold the same high regard, as a well known, famous Physics Professor, or similar, such as Eric Laithwaite. That is the point, I was trying to make.
Well "Eric Laithwaite" is on my side on this one. He knew a thing or 2 about magnetisms and its role in gravity. Hence why he said to other professors back in the day that we need to investigate why the rotating wheel on the axis becomes lighter when rotated around a 2nd axis at the same time. And they agreed with him and even said he wasnt the first to say it.
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Or. Maybe 'donate to my conspiracy theory' farms are becoming a thing.
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....How about you go read the MHD paper i shared to you?
I actually did have a look just out of morbid curiosity, wondering where you make all this stuff up from. To summarize:
1. MHD is not a fundamental source of power, despite the term 'self-sustaining dynamo'. This is just a conversion of forms of energy, a way of, for example, generating heat from mechanical motion on a huge scale. And it isn't a new concept at all. Nobody has proposed MHD as an energy 'source' because they all understand where the energy is coming from--except you.
https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2008/35/aa10152-08.pdf (https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/pdf/2008/35/aa10152-08.pdf)
2. Many decades ago cosmologist Sir Frederick Hoyle stated that he couldn't disprove (with contemporaneous measurement) that the sun was powered by a giant coal fire. Modern experiments with neutrinos have shown that there is a significant amount of fusion energy produced in the sun, but the experiments don't quite correlate between our models of neutrino behavior and the calculated energy output. So there's room to jump in and claim that the difference is made up by some other energy source. But.....
3. I don't think anyone credible that has done any math is supporting the claim that any significant part of the suns energy is coming from the source you claim and...
4. Even if it were, it would only happen in a large accretion-disk structure like a solar system. You couldn't reproduce that effect in your man-made reactor because your MHD magic still needs an original external energy source.
But I doubt you actually understand any of that.
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https://www.quora.com/profile/Nonlinearplasmadotcom (https://www.quora.com/profile/Nonlinearplasmadotcom)
They seem to be a proponent of various, alternative science things. If I have understood that link, correctly.
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Well "Eric Laithwaite" is on my side on this one.
Not necessarily. Did he ever know about your theories and patent pending application?
If not (which I suspect to be the case), can you really say what he would have said, if you had discussed it with him?
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Well "Eric Laithwaite" is on my side on this one. He knew a thing or 2 about magnetisms and its role in gravity. Hence why he said to other professors back in the day that we need to investigate why the rotating wheel on the axis becomes lighter when rotated around a 2nd axis at the same time. And they agreed with him and even said he wasnt the first to say it.
The wheel gets lighter does it? :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
You clearly haven't a clue about gyroscopic precession. In your last time your last reply to me on this (making me regret bringing up Eric Laithwait's name) you said it was because of eddy currents due to the wheel spinning in a magnetic field - completely ignoring the fact that a spinning non-conductive wheel also precesses when it is rotated. :palm:
In no case does anything ever get lighter though!
EDIT: For reference: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/msg4213213/#msg4213213 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/msg4213213/#msg4213213)
As for the gryoscope, it is rotating inside a magnetic field. Like any conductor rotating inside a magnetic field, a current is induced. We generally call them eddy currents. That is why Eric could swing that heavy weight over his head like it was nothing. The current produces a magnetic field which makes the flywheel levitate every so slightly. As proven by Sandy Kidds invention.
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bla bla bla
If thats the best "piss taking" you can do, this is going to be a breeze ;)
Oh dear. It appears you're now being trolled by the moderator. This is a crappy forum for discussing this kind of thing. Perhaps you should find yourself a safe space where there are no horrible bullies.
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Well "Eric Laithwaite" is on my side on this one.
Not necessarily. Did he ever know about your theories and patent pending application?
If not (which I suspect to be the case), can you really say what he would have said, if you had discussed it with him?
He died when i was knee high to a grasshopper. Yes he would understand that a toroid has 2 axis of rotation.
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The wheel gets lighter does it? :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
You clearly haven't a clue about gyroscopic precession. In your last time your last reply to me on this (making me regret bringing up Eric Laithwait's name) you said it was because of eddy currents due to the wheel spinning in a magnetic field - completely ignoring the fact that a spinning non-conductive wheel also precesses when it is rotated. :palm:
In no case does anything ever get lighter though!
You clearly dont understand wave functions of atoms, almost every atom in existance has a dipole and a multipole, some are more polar than others obviously. Most people dont consider water to be plasma, but yet say its a polar molecule that is controlled by MHD "MAGNETO HYDRO DYNAMICS" take a random stab in the dark at what magneto is referring to
And according to Eric, yes it is was easy for him to swing around above his head once rotating, which he said would not be possible if it were not rotating. You are telling yourself not to believe what your own eyes can go and watch on his lectures on the subject.
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The Utah Teapot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_teapot) can be rotated on 3 axes AND translated in 3 axes and it's topologically equivalent to a torus. Check. Mate.
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Three thoughts, today:
1.). OP responses, virtually invariably contain 2 or 3 new questions, and (I'm not going to count), est. 2 or 4 new sub-subjects.
2.). OP either can't, or won't slow down, and use proper-ish English. But that's not going to negate any real novel material, (necessarily).
3.). OP is, perhaps, sailing in PIRATE waters, without significant 'security', although I'm ignorant of world-wide nautical procedures. How / when does OP / Boatman SLEEP,...Is there some proximaty sensor with alarms ?
And, unfortunately, I'm ready to VOTE: 'OUT', if others feel the need, to ban that person. Hyper-reactive and disrespectful, of virtually every last respondent here.
I'm ready, SIMON, but reluctant to pull the plug, without respectful consensus. Thanks.
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He died when i was knee high to a grasshopper. Yes he would understand that a toroid has 2 axis of rotation.
Ok, maybe that bit of his past work, would have agreed with one aspect of your claims. But that still doesn't mean he would have agreed, with the entirety of your work (Patent Pending Claims). Maybe he would of, maybe not. We don't really know, I suspect.
I saw a movie, with his work in it (James Bond), and a weaponized tray (very long, linear motor, I believe) prototype system. Impressive device, in action.
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And the tidal wave being caused by the pull of the moon and sun is easily debunked by the north Australian continents sinusoidal loops and nodes as shown in the attached images. Its common sense to know that 12m of water either side of 3m of water. Common sense say that cant come from 1 buldge of water travelling tho the timor sea.
Huh? :wtf:
Tides caused by the gravity of the Moon has been calculated using physics as shown here -
https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf (https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf)
All you ever do is show pictues with no math to back it up!
(https://i.imgur.com/66kz3Gf.gif)
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Most people dont consider water to be plasma,
True, but if you imagine words to just mean whatever imaginary color you are smelling, then I suppose water can be plasma.
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You would have to be slightly specific about the specs of the motor to know what would happen in space.
So an induction motor has two rotating fields you say, maybe you can explain how this works. maybe you can muster something more sensible that the rest of your crap.
All motors produce a field on the rotor and a field on the stator, its just how they work, maybe go built one, they are actually easy to built yourself. All motors that arent bolted will kick when started, if it was in space with out resistance or gravity to counter act the kick, then the statory will obviously keep rotating there is nothing to stop it.
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The wheel gets lighter does it? :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
You clearly haven't a clue about gyroscopic precession. In your last time your last reply to me on this (making me regret bringing up Eric Laithwait's name) you said it was because of eddy currents due to the wheel spinning in a magnetic field - completely ignoring the fact that a spinning non-conductive wheel also precesses when it is rotated. :palm:
In no case does anything ever get lighter though!
You clearly dont understand wave functions of atoms, almost every atom in existance has a dipole and a multipole, some are more polar than others obviously. Most people dont consider water to be plasma, but yet say its a polar molecule that is controlled by MHD "MAGNETO HYDRO DYNAMICS" take a random stab in the dark at what magneto is referring to
And according to Eric, yes it is was easy for him to swing around above his head once rotating, which he said would not be possible if it were not rotating. You are telling yourself not to believe what your own eyes can go and watch on his lectures on the subject.
I watched his Royal Instuition lectures live, when you were knee high to a crap.
The whole atomic dipole...etc. has nothing to do with anything. His flywheel moved upwards by taking energy from the force of his rotation, just as any gyroscope does, it precesses, translating force through 90'. The flywheel stops, it no longer lifts... If he stops, it no longer lifts. That's where your mythical 'lightening' comes from simple translation of the direction of force.
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And the tidal wave being caused by the pull of the moon and sun is easily debunked by the north Australian continents sinusoidal loops and nodes as shown in the attached images. Its common sense to know that 12m of water either side of 3m of water. Common sense say that cant come from 1 buldge of water travelling tho the timor sea.
Huh? :wtf:
Tides caused by the gravity of the Moon has been calculated using physics as shown here -
https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf (https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf)
All you ever do is show pictues with no math to back it up!
(https://i.imgur.com/66kz3Gf.gif)
Well they are worth a thousand words. Math means nothing if you dont know understand the mechanism you are trying to measure. Take the moons effect on the tide... does the moons phase change the timing of the night time high tide? Or does it remain at 180° to the day high tide? Is it 1 stationary standing wave or 1 stationary standing wave and 1 rotating standing wave? Which the earth then rotates tho? Where does the sinusoidal wave pattern come from that effects the height of the tide inside the same high tide wave? How come this is left out of the tidal model that is taught? Since that sinusoidal wave does not move around the planet it can only come from the planet. If it was caused by the sun or moon it would move with the tidal wave. This is common sense, try studying the pictures. Try explain it using the sun or moon gravitational pull. It is a well know fact that the tidal model does not work everywhere. As mentioned before NZ is a prime example of this.
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Wow; 6 new questions this time...
(Maybe he will wear out his laptop keyboard)
I've run out of sarcasm. Anybody else got some ?
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Probably the one good thing come out of this thread is that the OP has completely stuffed himself as far as crowdfunding goes, I bet he wasn't banking on that!
This forum comes so far up the search engine hits these days that this very public debunking will come up as soon as anyone does a search for "Non Linear Plasma Reactor".... actually I just checked and it's already the third hit on DuckDuckGo. It'll soon be above his own website! ;D
Edit: Actually it is above his 'About Us' website hit, and 6 placed above his gofundme page.
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I watched his Royal Instuition lectures live, when you were knee high to a crap.
The whole atomic dipole...etc. has nothing to do with anything. His flywheel moved upwards by taking energy from the force of his rotation, just as any gyroscope does, it precesses, translating force through 90'. The flywheel stops, it no longer lifts... If he stops, it no longer lifts. That's where your mythical 'lightening' comes from simple translation of the direction of force.
So when he showed you the magnetic river as a ball travelling along the 2D sinusoidal wave, did you happen to notice how the 2D wave was created in his little experiment? The little handle he is turning that pushes the rods up, do you know what that is? Its a 3 dimensional wave mate. All surface wave are created by 3 dimensional helical waves. A ripple on the surface of the water is created by the helical wave of ions in the wind, if the surface is not fixed a 2D wave is created, like a flag in the wind. If the surface is fixed like a yacht sail then lift is produced. The lift is produced on the front of the wave sucking the water up to allow the wave to propagate through the water.
https://youtu.be/OI_HFnNTfyU
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Hey, SIMON...ITS TIME (to act)!
Thanks,
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Probably the one good thing come out of this thread is that the OP has completely stuffed himself as far as crowdfunding goes, I bet he wasn't banking on that!
This forum comes so far up the search engine hits these days that this very public debunking will come up as soon as anyone does a search for "Non Linear Plasma Reactor".... actually I just checked and it's already the third hit on DuckDuckGo. It'll soon be above his own website! ;D
I dont think you understand how marketing works bro, remember no such thing as bad publicity. Remember if it goes the other way, how stupid will you lot look? A bunch of so called electrical folk that couldnt figure out the difference between the north and south pole of a magnet when it was shown to them a hundred times 😂😂😂
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Another 6 questions !
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I fully expect to be screwed on this. No big deal, i patented it so i could claim rights over understanding that gravity is coulomb's law applied to plasma.
If you afford it, that's actually a pretty reasonable use for a patent. Going to stick around in that database for a lot longer than some random website :)
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I dont think you understand how marketing works bro, remember no such thing as bad publicity.
Oh, I think you'll find there is - people are much more aware of marketing wank these days, especially when money is tight.
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Hey, SIMON...ITS TIME (to act)!
Thanks,
Why are you still here? Just leave. No one is forcing you to be here. Im i stealling your lime light or something?
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Hey, SIMON...ITS TIME (to act)!
Thanks,
Why are you still here? Just leave. No one is forcing you to be here. Im i stealling your lime light or something?
I've found a safe forum where you will be respected. Perhaps you should go there.
https://overunity.com/community/
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Well they are worth a thousand words. Math means nothing if you dont know understand the mechanism you are trying to measure...
They are worth a thousand words, but what if the thousand words are all bullshit? All you did was draw a picture of your bullshit ideas.
As usual you have it all bass-ackwards. You derive the math using data from measurements. How is this phenomenon behaving? Derive the equations that explain your measurements. Then when you think your equations explain your measurements, you can then ask others to verify that your equations match how nature is working the same way in their experiments. Next, use them to predict how nature works in yet unobserved scenarios, and if nature matches your equations still - you can go to the pub and have a beer.
After that go home and draw some pics that match the what?
The results that the equations predict.
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Well they are worth a thousand words. Math means nothing if you dont know understand the mechanism you are trying to measure...
They are worth a thousand words, but what if the thousand words are all bullshit? All you did was draw a picture of your bullshit ideas.
As usual you have it all bass-ackwards. You derive the math using data from measurements. How is this phenomenon behaving? Derive the equations that explain your measurements. Then when you think your equations explain your measurements, you can then ask others to verify that your equations match how nature is working the same way in their experiments. Next, use them to predict how nature works in yet unobserved scenarios, and if nature matches your equations still - you can go to the pub and have a beer.
After that go home and draw some pics that match the what?
The results that the equations predict.
So the tidal model and maths and equations that go with it that currently doesnt work, did everyone give up and go for a beer already and forget to come back and finish it or what. Or do you only apply that logic when it suits you?
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Three thoughts, today:
1.). OP responses, virtually invariably contain 2 or 3 new questions, and (I'm not going to count), est. 2 or 4 new sub-subjects.
2.). OP either can't, or won't slow down, and use proper-ish English. But that's not going to negate any real novel material, (necessarily).
3.). OP is, perhaps, sailing in PIRATE waters, without significant 'security', although I'm ignorant of world-wide nautical procedures. How / when does OP / Boatman SLEEP,...Is there some proximaty sensor with alarms ?
And, unfortunately, I'm ready to VOTE: 'OUT', if others feel the need, to ban that person. Hyper-reactive and disrespectful, of virtually every last respondent here.
I'm ready, SIMON, but reluctant to pull the plug, without respectful consensus. Thanks.
It's the usual tactic of ignore the question or point and start talking about something else because he is clueless and just making this stuff up. Given the amount of splatering he has done around online I am sure he has stock answers for most scenarios.
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I dont think you understand how marketing works bro, remember no such thing as bad publicity. Remember if it goes the other way, how stupid will you lot look? A bunch of so called electrical folk that couldnt figure out the difference between the north and south pole of a magnet when it was shown to them a hundred times 😂😂😂
I was almost going to make a post, dismissing your claims. Because so many eminent scientists, DON'T (in theory) agree with you.
But then I put it to the 'common sense' test, of yours. An almost 3 year old, quickly glanced at it, and seemed to slightly nod in agreement, so you MUST BE RIGHT. It's common sense. The (notional) puppy, will be 3, next birthday.
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Thank goodness I know when I'm being trolled. 8)
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And the tidal wave being caused by the pull of the moon and sun is easily debunked by the north Australian continents sinusoidal loops and nodes as shown in the attached images. Its common sense to know that 12m of water either side of 3m of water. Common sense say that cant come from 1 buldge of water travelling tho the timor sea.
Huh? :wtf:
Tides caused by the gravity of the Moon has been calculated using physics as shown here -
https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf (https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf)
AFAICS, that paper just shows the force at some position on Earth, thus the maximum possible tide at that position. But does it show that the tide is 10m here, 3m a hundred miles or so along there, 10m a bit further on, etc? I don't think it does, and since that's what NLP was pointing out the paper is no more use than his images.
I am not a tidal scientist, but I think the height of the tide at some point along a coast would depend on the depth of the seabed, amongst other things.
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My bathroom sink is draining kinda slow. I wonder if a magnet would fix it, what with water being a plasma and all...
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Thank goodness I know when I'm being trolled. 8)
Unfortunately someone else does not possess this skill.
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Hey, SIMON...ITS TIME (to act)!
Thanks,
Please, if you're that badly affected just stop reading this thread. You are not the arbiter of what anyone else should be able to see or say.
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cmon, we are only at page 12, not 200 yet. I mean if he aint posting shit here he will be somewhere else where maybe they will get duped. It's like those 419 scam baiters :)
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Here's the OP's inspiration:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1503442;image)
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AFAICS, that paper just shows the force at some position on Earth, thus the maximum possible tide at that position. But does it show that the tide is 10m here, 3m a hundred miles or so along there, 10m a bit further on, etc? I don't think it does, and since that's what NLP was pointing out the paper is no more use than his images.
I am not a tidal scientist, but I think the height of the tide at some point along a coast would depend on the depth of the seabed, amongst other things.
That's why it's called "A Simple Model of Ocean Tides" :palm:
Read toward the end -
We have made many approximations to obtain these values, and so they are not quite accurate. First of all,
we have neglected ocean depth and the complex effects of shorlines and continental shelfs.
It simply illustrates that the tides can be calculated you can make it more and more accurate taking into account more details.
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Here's the OP's inspiration:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1503442;image)
Reference is so apt...
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And the tidal wave being caused by the pull of the moon and sun is easily debunked by the north Australian continents sinusoidal loops and nodes as shown in the attached images. Its common sense to know that 12m of water either side of 3m of water. Common sense say that cant come from 1 buldge of water travelling tho the timor sea.
Huh? :wtf:
Tides caused by the gravity of the Moon has been calculated using physics as shown here -
https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf (https://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/02/no/pdfs/tides.pdf)
AFAICS, that paper just shows the force at some position on Earth, thus the maximum possible tide at that position. But does it show that the tide is 10m here, 3m a hundred miles or so along there, 10m a bit further on, etc? I don't think it does, and since that's what NLP was pointing out the paper is no more use than his images.
I am not a tidal scientist, but I think the height of the tide at some point along a coast would depend on the depth of the seabed, amongst other things.
Feel free to download navionics, it will give you the tide height time and sea bed depths. In some places it will even show you the direction of current where it is strong enough to worry about. It is predictable everyday from measurements, but not from the model that scientists use to describe the mechanism. As xrunner said if your model doesnt match nature then you shouldnt be going to the pub for a beer.
Turns out ive actually been there, watched the tide change, studied it so i dont get into a wind against tide situation, or having to motor against a 3 or 4kt current. Trust me, you learn fast when you miss the timing of the tide.
If you want i have navonics on my phone and can screenshot the tidal range and depths of sea bed.
The maps are about $50 but you can also just search them on the internet.
Go exmouth, dampier, broome, king George river, darwin and you should get a good picture of the sinusoidal wave pattern. You can also find the same pattern in the english channel but it isnt long enough to get multiple waves on a single coast. Canada will be a good place to look to see if you can see more patterns. I havent sailed there so havent looked. But i can grant it will be there.
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Reminds me of a woman I was dating:
"Got obscene phone call(s)...The guy just refused to hang up the phone..."
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AFAICS, that paper just shows the force at some position on Earth, thus the maximum possible tide at that position. But does it show that the tide is 10m here, 3m a hundred miles or so along there, 10m a bit further on, etc? I don't think it does, and since that's what NLP was pointing out the paper is no more use than his images.
I am not a tidal scientist, but I think the height of the tide at some point along a coast would depend on the depth of the seabed, amongst other things.
That's why it's called "A Simple Model of Ocean Tides" :palm:
Read toward the end -
We have made many approximations to obtain these values, and so they are not quite accurate. First of all,
we have neglected ocean depth and the complex effects of shorlines and continental shelfs.
It simply illustrates that the tides can be calculated you can make it more and more accurate taking into account more details.
Yes, I read it all and saw that bit, and noted it was a simple model. Which is precisely why I questioned to the point of posting it - it didn't address the question and, in fact, just did exactly what you the OP is accused of doing: throwing in some other persons random paper as if it answers everything when it doesn't.
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Have fun guys I'm outta here!
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AFAICS, that paper just shows the force at some position on Earth, thus the maximum possible tide at that position. But does it show that the tide is 10m here, 3m a hundred miles or so along there, 10m a bit further on, etc? I don't think it does, and since that's what NLP was pointing out the paper is no more use than his images.
I am not a tidal scientist, but I think the height of the tide at some point along a coast would depend on the depth of the seabed, amongst other things.
That's why it's called "A Simple Model of Ocean Tides" :palm:
Read toward the end -
We have made many approximations to obtain these values, and so they are not quite accurate. First of all,
we have neglected ocean depth and the complex effects of shorlines and continental shelfs.
It simply illustrates that the tides can be calculated you can make it more and more accurate taking into account more details.
Ofcourse they can be calculated, they occur every month in the same pattern. But the simply model does not take into account the sinusoidal wave height pattern that is rotating with earth. Where does it come from? And what is its mechanism? If you claim im wrong then provide the answers instead of saying the model you have is to simply to explain it but you are still wrong.
Attached is a chart of broome to darwin. The line cloest to the shore is the 20m line, the next one is 50m.
The single tidal bubble travelling into the timor sea should therotically produce an even high tide height accross that coast line within a few cm, or at least within 1 meter. But a 10m difference. Thats a lot of water in a very short distance to just disappear. Can we ask them physicists when they will provide the maths and equations for that?
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Have fun guys I'm outta here!
Can you take RJ with you? He seems lost, he keeps commenting about being love sick over an ex or something 😘
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Best part about running a bogus company is you can give yourself any job title you want.
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Yep. I am Ultimate Grand Hegemon. Bow before me weasley subordinate scum.
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
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I thought you were claiming 'Cambridge', or something, like 2 days ago...?
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
You're proving them right. You do seem to be changing the subject, and deflecting away from answering the real questions, about your supposedly good idea/invention.
If it was so good/cool (the invention), how come we are not discussing its mathematical and scientific principles, etc.
Instead, you seem to be attacking another member.
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I remember being 16 or so and wanting to do plasma physics and had all these highfalutin ideas about controlled nuclear fusion and space propulsion. Picked up a copy of Plama Physics and Magnetohydrodyamics" at a library book sale (I don't remember the authors. Little red book). I also was pretty trollish (16, recall) on forums. I thought this whole mess was like me seeing a younger version of myself in someone else and was a chance to point them in directions I wish I was once upon a time.
Over the course of the day of switching between EEVblog forums and prepping my shower rebuild for grouting I alternated between "This is some kid with nothing to do after school is out" to "Someone who's first language isn't English is running a con"
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running a con
That makes complete sense.
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I remember being 16 or so and wanting to do plasma physics and had all these highfalutin ideas about controlled nuclear fusion and space propulsion. Picked up a copy of Plama Physics and Magnetohydrodyamics" at a library book sale (I don't remember the authors. Little red book). I also was pretty trollish (16, recall) on forums. I thought this whole mess was like me seeing a younger version of myself in someone else and was a chance to point them in directions I wish I was once upon a time.
Over the course of the day of switching between EEVblog forums and prepping my shower rebuild for grouting I alternated between "This is some kid with nothing to do after school is out" to "Someone who's first language isn't English is running a con"
Im from the highland and islands of scotland, our national language is Gaelic. Every heard of a band called Runrig? You will have heard the song loch lomond, thats them. Not to be confused with irish or welsh Gaelic. Surprisingly enough when england started colonisation of the world they started with their next door neighbors.
As stated heaps of times now im dyslexic. Not that it matters since this is really a look at the blatantly obvious pictures that show he different perspectives of magnetic fields, tidal forces and quadrupole lope alignment. I mean most ppl can see a helical wave, they just dont seem to be able to understand how wave build on top of smaller waves. They do in 2D but not in 3D.
Did the books you read all them years ago explain how an ion moves under the influence of a magnetic field?
If they didnt here is a simply picture for you to look into. A few month ago a guy on quora claimed i didnt know what i was talking about too, then went to his computer simulations and confirmed that an ion does indeed move in a helical pattern under a magnetic field. Then said but your still wrong. The cognitive dissonance was strong with that one. 😂
If an ion in the earth atmosphere is moving, is it moving inside a magnetic field? Sorry RJ i know its another question, but like most of the others they are so obvious that a 2 year old could answer them.
Now put 2 of them ionic helical waves beside each other. Then go back to my picture of the 2 helical waves in the conductors that result in Coulomb's law and you might start to understand why 2 ions attract as they accelerate.
Now turn the direction of 1 ionic helical wave and you might start to understand why they repel.
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"They (Patent Office) wouldn't have published application, (Fusion Power generation), if they didn't think it would work..."...
... Really.? ...Really ?? (for emphasis)...
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Did the books you read all them years ago explain how an ion moves under the influence of a magnetic field?
Yes. It's all explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force)
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To save you going to look for it, i will upload again, its bed time for me. You can all enjoy RJ telling you he is leaving and then taking a few more bites at the cherry for good luck. Until tomorrow. Enjoy
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The person completely continues to ignore the questions, in general.
Are they a complete SCAM merchant, or believing in what would seem to be, non-mainstream science (such as free energy is real and so forth).
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My car doesn't give the fuel mileage I had hoped, of great magnetoguru, can you give me some pseudo-science claptrap that will increase it (in a placebo manner you understand)? I need to save my money to fund my impulse engine design. I haven't yet published it, though I have thought about patenting it.
Perhaps when you have scammed elicited sufficient donations from the good people of Gullibleton you could pass some forward to me, so I can do the necessary R&D to buy my yacht make my stoner dream reality prove my fallacy upon the unworthy flesh-corpus of the body scientific. I'm sure we will thence have proved our worthiness to the great poombah Musk-O and be elevated to the next plenum of incorporeality.
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Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
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To save you going to look for it, i will upload again, its bed time for me. You can all enjoy RJ telling you he is leaving and then taking a few more bites at the cherry for good luck. Until tomorrow. Enjoy
Those on a limited data plan will not bother downloading that huge attachment. You need to learn how to use image processing software. I got that file down to a tiny fraction of that size.
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I did a deep research and investigation about our OP (about 10 seconds of googling) and I've found this amazing book about him:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51w+aIBx-7L.jpg)
The interesting part is maybe this scale:
(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/hostedimages/1408350208i/10840058.png)
>:D ;)
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Yes. It's all explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force)
"In physics (specifically in electromagnetism) the Lorentz force (or electromagnetic force) is the combination of electric and magnetic force on a point charge due to electromagnetic fields. A particle of charge q moving with a velocity v in an electric field E and a magnetic field B experiences a force of"
You see the issue with this statement at the very start of all the amazing maths that is used to describe the 2 dimensional sine waves of the electric force and magnetic force. The problem is unless your a flat earther; the universe is 3 dimensional. Humans communicate what they visualize in 2 dimensions because thats how our braims work. This is why we have 2 eyes. The electric force is the projected sine wave from 1 frame of reference with the magnetic force being the projected sine wave of the same force perpendicular to the first electric force. (Eric Laithwaites lecture uses little sticks to projected the helical wave into 2 dimensions) This is shown in the 3 dimensional gif below, with the electric force being say vertical and the magnetic force being horizontal to the frame of reference we are using to look at the 3 dimensional helical wave.
As discovered by the helical wave of superconductivity; we know that the electrical helical wave is trying to passing through the conductor with a 1.1° trajectory. If the conductor resists the waves propagation, it increases the number of times the wave will roll around the central axis in a given distance. This has the effect of increasing the magnetic force of the wave as seen by the observer. If we build a coil and use the same wave multiply times the electric and magnetic forces produced by the 2 or more helical waves build on top of each other to increase the force. This is no different to ripples on the ocean forming larger waves.
Mathimatically this is sound for measuring the wave in a straight line. However when we consider gravitational waves orginating from inside a large object such as a star or planet, our 2D mind had to be told that the sinusoidal wave of gravity has no negative or replusive force. The jets of black holes and pulsar disagree with this statement. But unfortunately the flat earther inside our human brain cant quite leave, possible due to cognitive dissonance.
Either gravity is a sinusoidal wave that has a mathimatically measurable negative or it isnt. All these genius that you have been saying are so smart and im ignoring them dont seem to want to address that elephant in the room. But hey its all "well understood" right? Expect it isnt, the electric force and magnetic force share a common axis with the helical wave as shown. To the central axis of the 3 dimensional wave the negative does not exist, it only exists to the outside observer. Shockingly enough we humans arent the center of the universe, or the wave we are measuring. This is why we use the terms loops and nodes to describe the interection of the "positive & negative" components of surface waves in a medium. Its clear to see that the energy level in the troughs of 2 waves is just less than the 2 peaks. It is not negative or opposite to the wave peaks energy. The helical waves of plasma around a toroid or magnet combine to form loops and nodes in any ferrofluid. Water being a polar molecule can be consider ferrofluid aka plasma. This is why the loops and nodes occur in the tidal wave as it passes the timor sea. Giving the 12m height in broome and darwin this is a loop of high energy. While the areas of 3m range are nodes as shown again below. Similar loops and nodes can be seen in the ferrofluid image around the strong permanent magnet also attached.
The mathematical equations are useless if you dont understand your own mind. Dont be a flat earther any longer, you will love the level of understanding you can get from viewing helical waves from multiple perspectives at the same time 😘
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
How predictable
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
How predictable
Yeah dame straight im not uploading that kind of document to the internet. I was pissed at him broadcasting my friend home address after my friend was good enough to allow me to use it. Even if im a nobody it matters nothing. I know plenty of electrical engineers with degrees that couldnt tie the shoes of most sparkys
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I did a deep research and investigation about our OP (about 10 seconds of googling) and I've found this amazing book about him:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51w+aIBx-7L.jpg)
The interesting part is maybe this scale:
(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/hostedimages/1408350208i/10840058.png)
>:D ;)
Whats funny about that is you think your the center of the universe. As if your view is the only way it can be viewed. Thats why you dont understand that negative cant exist to the central observer. Aka The all seeing eye of god who can only see positive.
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
How predictable
Yeah dame straight im not uploading that kind of document to the internet. I was pissed at him broadcasting my friend home address after my friend was good enough to allow me to use it. Even if im a nobody it matters nothing. I know plenty of electrical engineers with degrees that couldnt tie the shoes of most sparkys
Whether or not you have a degree is irrelevant. I don't, I am currently on a HND and can attest to the appalling standards of university if standards is a term that can be applied to the mess they are. When my employer wanted a second electronics person I deliberately avoided employing a graduate.
Most electricians I have met are as thick as shit not even understanding ohms law.
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Whether or not you have a degree is irrelevant. I don't, I am currently on a HND and can attest to the appalling standards of university if standards is a term that can be applied to the mess they are. When my employer wanted a second electronics person I deliberately avoided employing a graduate.
Most electricians I have met are as thick as shit not even understanding ohms law.
Yeah we need to go back to the apprenticeships system, university's are teaching the youth what to think, not how to think. Thats actually how i became an engineer as well. I wasnt allowed to go for my degree after my orginal boss told me i would be doing it, he got promoted and my new boss said no chance your away from work to much as it is. I was really good at fixing shit, better than most of the tradesmen by the end of my second or third year of my 5 years as an apprentice. Actually 4 years but i missed the start date so did a full year on the factory floor before even going to collage in glasgow. That orginal boss was an amazing engineer, that first year i learned more from him than i did from every class i attented. We also had some really gifted welders and machinist. And my boss said 1/3 of your apprenticeships will be mechanical enginneering, ur no good to me just pulling cables.
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No clue, what you do, here, vandalism, kinda.
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Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
As an electrical engineer who knows that engineers like James Watt and Eric Laithwaite build the world around you. All the biggest advancement in our history were done by engineers. We are top dog, stop think we have peers, we are our own peers, our work is proven by building. If engineers were given the money that physicst get to do stupid experiments we could build a future better than the one we currently have in front of us. Go search how much money is being pumped into fusion. Do you think an idea such as mine (and others) doesnt deserve a tiny percentage of that? Oh know, just incase they are wrong and im right? Can 2 ideas not co exists?
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As you progress, through your list, of perceived offenders which apparently are any, you neglect to answer the real questions. That's, sir, WHY, the common sense questions get pressed.
(Along with various made-up 14 pages of 'spinning whatever, all mis-spelled, which is one tip-off).
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As you progress, through your list, of perceived offenders which apparently are any, you neglect to answer the real questions. That's, sir, WHY, the common sense questions get pressed.
(Along with various made-up 14 pages of 'spinning whatever, all mis-spelled, which is one tip-off).
Spinning atomic wave functions mate. The universe is made up of little spinny things. Sorry to disappoint your flat 2D mathimatical framework.
Do you know why the wave function flips from red to blue as it travels outward in the same direction? Its called perspective, an observer on the opposite side would view a red - blue - red change as a blue - red - blue change. In other words, what is positive to 1 observer is negative to another on the opposite side of the wave function.
If viewing current rotating in a coil of wire, if an observer on 1 side views the currents rotation as clockwise then the opposite observer views it as anti clockwise. The same goes for the uniform direction of rotation inside a magnet. Thus the common doniminator between all opposite is direction of rotation, ie spin up or spin down aka clockwise or anti clockwise. The term you use is decide by you viewing perspective. Ie if your looking at the poloidal axis of rotation you see clockwise, while if your perspective is from the equator of rotation then it becomes spin up or spin down.
Nice to see you never left, we can get that flat earther in you out if you dont give up.
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Non-Fusion-spinning-Guy:
(Or. Whatever):
I have a couple of comments, about FUSION, (you seem almost OBSESSED, w that.), but, first:
(LOL), I just realized, (OP and I), BOTH of us are operating on same, New Zealand (NZ), TIME zone!
(I'm in U.S. nr Berkeley, CA). In my case, simple insomnia, nodding out early, for few hours, max.
FUSION:
Is it XYZ acting, as you repeatedly keep going back to 'XYZ', (Fusion, in this example), but then adamantly insist, NO XYZ..."XYZ is what IT isn't..." You rudely declare (everyone's against you, I get that).
Patent APPLICATIONs get, automatically, published every, after 18 months I thought that last few posts was saying (sorry, I didn't note who posted that, in yesterday's posts). So is automatic.
But, LOL, maybe, being both on NZ time, me nr Berkeley, but you in a mine somewhere in NZ, maybe that's why we BUTT HEADs so much. Sorry.
But, at least, lol, you've cleaned up paragraph structure looks good, lots easier reading, to help you figure out this mess.
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Non-Fusion-spinning-Guy:
(Or. Whatever):
I have a couple of comments, about FUSION, (you seem almost OBSESSED, w that.), but, first:
(LOL), I just realized, (OP and I), BOTH of us are operating on same, New Zealand (NZ), TIME zone!
(I'm in U.S. nr Berkeley, CA). In my case, simple insomnia, nodding out early, for few hours, max.
FUSION:
Is it XYZ acting, as you repeatedly keep going back to 'XYZ', (Fusion, in this example), but then adamantly insist, NO XYZ..."XYZ is what IT isn't..." You rudely declare (everyone's against you, I get that).
Patent APPLICATIONs get, automatically, published every, after 18 months I thought that last few posts was saying (sorry, I didn't note who posted that, in yesterday's posts). So is automatic.
But, LOL, maybe, being both on NZ time, me nr Berkeley, but you in a mine somewhere in NZ, maybe that's why we BUTT HEADs so much. Sorry.
But, at least, lol, you've cleaned up paragraph structure looks good, lots easier reading, to help you figure out this mess.
Sorry im not sure i understand your question, but i will try at what i think your question is.
Any mathimatical value of X or Y measured from the central axis cant be distinguished from each other execpt by the outside observer. The location or force of the wave to an outside observer can be at negative x or negative Y but to the central observer both locations are positive. Or 2 put it another way, the central Z axis observer always view the underside of the wave peak (making it a wave trough to that axis, wave troughs alway attract, for example gravity)as it rotates around him. If he turns his vision 180° he view the exact same thing, while the outside observer says it has changed from positive to negative or from north to south, depending on what terminology he is using.
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Forgot to ask, What Electrical Engineering Degree / where ?
Now, you CLAIM to have obtained Mechanical Engineer, too ???
You never wanna answer...
Yeah you kept telling the moderators to close the thread. Why would i encourage you to come back?
You really are like an ex that wont leave. I wonder why it even matters to you at this stage?
Obviously i could upload my certs, but i feel its going to annoy you more if i dont. Bye now
How predictable
I'm quite happy for this thread to remain in place. I don't see the problem, as long as this doesn't spread to the rest of the forum.
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Yes. It's all explained here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force)
"In physics (specifically in electromagnetism) the Lorentz force (or electromagnetic force) is the combination of electric and magnetic force on a point charge due to electromagnetic fields. A particle of charge q moving with a velocity v in an electric field E and a magnetic field B experiences a force of"
You see the issue with this statement at the very start of all the amazing maths that is used to describe the 2 dimensional sine waves of the electric force and magnetic force. The problem is unless your a flat earther; the universe is 3 dimensional. Humans communicate what they visualize in 2 dimensions because thats how our braims work. This is why we have 2 eyes. The electric force is the projected sine wave from 1 frame of reference with the magnetic force being the projected sine wave of the same force perpendicular to the first electric force. (Eric Laithwaites lecture uses little sticks to projected the helical wave into 2 dimensions) This is shown in the 3 dimensional gif below, with the electric force being say vertical and the magnetic force being horizontal to the frame of reference we are using to look at the 3 dimensional helical wave.
No, see, those equations describe a particle moving in a helical shape in 3 dimensions exactly like you keep going on about. The trouble is you deal in word salad and not math. You haven't shown any mathematical reason to believe anything you're saying.
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No, see, those equations describe a particle moving in a helical shape in 3 dimensions exactly like you keep going on about. The trouble is you deal in word salad and not math. You haven't shown any mathematical reason to believe anything you're saying.
Are you claiming this statement copied from above to be incorrect? Does the central z axis have the ability to view a negative value to the helical waves above the common axis between the electric force and magnetic force? Or do the electric and magnetic force not share a common axis with the 3 dimensional wave?
Any mathimatical value of X or Y measured from the central axis cant be distinguished from each other execpt by the outside observer. The location or force of the wave to an outside observer can be at negative x or negative Y but to the central observer both locations are positive. Or 2 put it another way, the central Z axis observer always view the underside of the wave peak (making it a wave trough to that axis, wave troughs alway attract, for example gravity)as it rotates around him. If he turns his vision 180° he view the exact same thing, while the outside observer says it has changed from positive to negative or from north to south, depending on what terminology he is using.
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No, see, those equations describe a particle moving in a helical shape in 3 dimensions exactly like you keep going on about. The trouble is you deal in word salad and not math. You haven't shown any mathematical reason to believe anything you're saying.
Are you claiming this statement copied from above to be incorrect? Does the central z axis have the ability to view a negative value to the helical waves above the common axis between the electric force and magnetic force? Or do the electric and magnetic force not share a common axis with the 3 dimensional wave?
Any mathimatical value of X or Y measured from the central axis cant be distinguished from each other execpt by the outside observer. The location or force of the wave to an outside observer can be at negative x or negative Y but to the central observer both locations are positive. Or 2 put it another way, the central Z axis observer always view the underside of the wave peak (making it a wave trough to that axis, wave troughs alway attract, for example gravity)as it rotates around him. If he turns his vision 180° he view the exact same thing, while the outside observer says it has changed from positive to negative or from north to south, depending on what terminology he is using.
Exactly what I meant. Word salad.
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...Yeah, but I was asking, about terminology (In OP statements, 'NO FUSION'. Then it's only 'REACTION', of
...of WHAT, what type ? Is that unknown, at this point ?
Why, even include that term 'Fusion'?
Maybe, 'Fusion-Like'...?
Fusion Confusion, (sorry could help making a little joke), but still, between your constant personal attack, attempts, and haze, generally ???
Sorry, I come from the (Engineering) Q.C. / Q.A. world, a kind of 'most-hated', as QA guys asking the hard questions (about your term 'Reactor'.
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Someone with a picture of a couple of pots and pans glued together with extension cord wrapped around them would be a more credible researcher.
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Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
As an electrical engineer who knows that engineers like James Watt and Eric Laithwaite build the world around you. All the biggest advancement in our history were done by engineers. We are top dog, stop think we have peers, we are our own peers, our work is proven by building. If engineers were given the money that physicst get to do stupid experiments we could build a future better than the one we currently have in front of us. Go search how much money is being pumped into fusion. Do you think an idea such as mine (and others) doesnt deserve a tiny percentage of that? Oh know, just incase they are wrong and im right? Can 2 ideas not co exists?
"I thought that fellow engineers (such as those on this forum) would be more receptive of my ideas compare to physicists" would have been a lot more to the point.
No need for that weird rant about the superiority of engineers or whatever.
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...Yeah, but I was asking, about terminology (In OP statements, 'NO FUSION'. Then it's only 'REACTION', of
...of WHAT, what type ? Is that unknown, at this point ?
Why, even include that term 'Fusion'?
Maybe, 'Fusion-Like'...?
Fusion Confusion, (sorry could help making a little joke), but still, between your constant personal attack, attempts, and haze, generally ???
Sorry, I come from the (Engineering) Q.C. / Q.A. world, a kind of 'most-hated', as QA guys asking the hard questions (about your term 'Reactor'.
The reaction is one of turning laminar plasma flows into turbulent plasma flows, using the self sustaining dynamo effect of laminar flow around the toroid and the turbulent reaction of anti parallel plasma flows on the poloidal axis as the plasma exits the z pinch.
This reactions has been modelled by scientists looking into the magnetic structure of black holes as can be read about in this article if you wish,
https://phys.org/news/2018-02-dynamics-black-hole-rotational-energy.html
Inside the black hole the same structure is made, obviously the density of plasma inside the black hole is much stronger, notice the similarities between the larger magnetic structure to the plasma squatter man and the magnetic model of earth as shown previously
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Inside the black hole the same structure is made, obviously the density of plasma inside the black hole is much stronger, notice the similarities between the larger magnetic structure to the plasma squatter man and the magnetic model of earth as shown previously
Please go on in detail about the internal structure of black holes
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Oops, sorry; I meant to use 'XYZ' as a generic, like 'ABC', confusing, not meant as x axis etc. but as substitute for 'FUSION', (Which yours apparently isn't).
Meant to say: ' If it's not 'abcd', (fusion), then WHY, keep repeating 'abcd'...why even mention 'fusion'.?
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Inside the black hole the same structure is made, obviously the density of plasma inside the black hole is much stronger, notice the similarities between the larger magnetic structure to the plasma squatter man and the magnetic model of earth as shown previously
Please go on in detail about the internal structure of black holes
That's the best question so far, thank you.
Black holes arent all the same. The toroid inside a black hole of a 2 armed galaxy produce a dipole above and below the equatorial axis, inside either end of the larger dipole is a second smaller dipole, this is produced by the rolling around the toroidal axis. In a 2 arm galaxy the plasma completes 1 roll around the toroidal axis every 1 rotation around the poloidal axis. With a 4 arm galaxy, inside either larger dipole is a quadrupole just like the sun or earth, this weaker quadrupole is produced again by the rolling of the plasma around the toroid axis, this time 2 full rotations of roll are produced per 1 rotation of the polidal axis. Ie 720° of roll every 360° of rotation. This i believe is formed by a double helical wave rather than 1 720° wave. But it could be a mixture of both. This needs a lot more computing power to fully understand than what is currently available to me. Thats why we debate.
Obviously galaxies with multiple arms roll half as many times as how every many arms they have. The best example of this is Saturns sextupole, it rolls 3 times around the toroidal axis for every 1 360° rotation of the poloidal axis. Or 1020° every 360°
Black holes are made of superconducting plasma, hence the absence of electromagnetic waves from the surface, except at the polar jets when the plasma is non linear around the axis. Like any vortex this produces a repulsive force between the 2 plasma currents travelling in opposite directions either side of the axis.
The plasma travelling from the south suction pole, to the north expansion pole via the z pinch expands around the axis. The reason for the southern pole jet is because as the plasma expands in the very center of the vortex turns to vapour. The best natural example of this is an extermely fast water vortex, the low pressure at the center of the vortex axis evaporates the water and it expands outward in the opposite direction to the liguid going down the vortex.
The liquid plasma going down the vortex enters the z pinch, here is is compressed to unimaginable densitys by the toroid. It is then blasted into the north rotating vortex, where the plasma collides turning the superconducting plasma from laminar flow to turbulent flow. The plasma begins rotating with the north vortex and becomes laminar again or it gets shot out of the black hole in the north jet.
This area of turbulent chaotic plasma interactions is the most likely souce of the fusion by product.
The plasma then starts to make its way around the outside of the center toroid on it way back to the south pole to complete the circuit. This is where the turbine blades of the plasma reactor will be positioned, utilising the energy from the turbulent expansion of plasma. These systems exist in gas gaints like jupiter and as we know planets such as jupiter radiate to much energy, with out the ability to create fusion, or at the very least with out the abilty to create enough fusion to justify the level of energy released from the planets surface.
Dark matter can be considered superconducting plasma, and dark energy is that insane amounts of current that is generated from the speed of rotation. And no i have no idea of the math involved in that. I will leave them calculation for someone who actually like maths.
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Where is the Z-axis on a spherical object?
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What is your plasma material; H, He, Li, Be, or isotopes of these? Although the device confines plasma inside a magnetic torus, where do the neutrons go; does your device require a super dense containment vessel? Just what is the energy efficiency of your system?
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Where is the Z-axis on a spherical object?
On a spherical toroid it is tho the center of the donut. Its just the axis of rotation, or poloidal axis
The only atom that can move its poloidal axis without flinching is carbon, that's why it's the perfect black body.
Add... there could be some larger atoms like carbon. But it gets a bit compilation figureing out the wave functions of atoms with larger nucleus.
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What is your plasma material; H, He, Li, Be, or isotopes of these? Although the device confines plasma inside a magnetic torus, where do the neutrons go; does your device require a super dense containment vessel? Just what is the energy efficiency of your system?
Hydrogen will expand the fastest, in reality the type of plasma doesnt matter. Obviously some will be better than others. You have to balance the pros and cons of the amount it is going to eat turbine blades etc. Like any jet engine these will be wearable items, this is where with time we will refine the plasma medium, like car engine oil and fuel additives have improved the life of engines the same will be true for the reactor. R&D needs to be done on such things and that will take time and money. Like every other invention does.
Sorry i missed i few of your questions, their should be minimally fusion, "neutrons" would be a bad thing to be produced because they will disturb the laminar flow of plasma.
Larger reactors may need super dense containment, but smaller reactors should not. To be honest larger reactors seem pointless because multiple reactors give you the ability to maintain the reactor while the others take the load. Any deep space mission will need redundancy on top of redundancy, similar to that of ships under the Lloyds standard of ocean going vessels.
Energy efficiency is an unknown quantity until we get the system going. There is nothing similar to compare it to, execpt fusion. And fusion needs ridiculous levels of energy input into it to compress the plasma. This is where the plasmareactor will save the most energy. While the output energy will be increased from the speed of expansion of the thrust generated by the turbulent non linear plasma. There is no converting of energy from 1 form to another, so this is a massive saving in efficiency. As every time you convert energy you lose efficiency.
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You have to balance the pros and cons of the amount it is going to eat turbine blades etc. Like any jet engine these will be wearable items, this is where with time we will refine the plasma medium, like car engine oil and fuel additives have improved the life of engines the same will be true for the reactor. R&D needs to be done on such things and that will take time and money. Like every other invention does.
Turbine blades in jet engines are crystalised from alloys of exotic combinations of tungsten, rhenium, hafnium - plus other high temperature melting elements. To me, you're inventing the world's most powerfull plasma torch that will evaporate anything.
On a project finance note, have you considered minting crypto NFT's [Non-Fungible Tokens] or creating a smart crypto DeFi [Decentralized Finance] contract? There's a lot of adventurous people out there with a lot of money to get burnt. Even at room temperature.
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Turbine blades in jet engines are crystalised from alloys of exotic combinations of tungsten, rhenium, hafnium - plus other high temperature melting elements. To me, you're inventing the world's most powerfull plasma torch that will evaporate anything.
On a project finance note, have you considered minting crypto NFT's [Non-Fungible Tokens] or creating a smart crypto DeFi [Decentralized Finance] contract? There's a lot of adventurous people out there with a lot of money to get burnt. Even at room temperature.
Plasma only need to be ridiculous temperature when you are trying to compress it to the point of fusion.
Take the cold stars "no hotter than a summer day"
https://www.science.org/content/article/cold-star-no-hotter-summers-day (https://www.science.org/content/article/cold-star-no-hotter-summers-day)
I view heat as a human construct to compare the energy of atomic structure to the melting and boiling points of water at sea level. It is really just a way of measureing the energy and density of the medium.
Im not well enough informed about the crypto world, this has been a tough project so far on my own and im not really well informed about the whole legal and accounting aspects of a project like this. I need help with getting the company to a point where it has a chance to be successfully. I figured if i could get it into the public light someone with experience will jump on board knowing the potential off the project. A Musk type that wants to build the future. Im not a massive Musk fan but as you said there are plenty rich folk that want to make a positive difference and profit at the same time.
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Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
As an electrical engineer who knows that engineers like James Watt and Eric Laithwaite build the world around you. All the biggest advancement in our history were done by engineers. We are top dog, stop think we have peers, we are our own peers, our work is proven by building. If engineers were given the money that physicst get to do stupid experiments we could build a future better than the one we currently have in front of us. Go search how much money is being pumped into fusion. Do you think an idea such as mine (and others) doesnt deserve a tiny percentage of that? Oh know, just incase they are wrong and im right? Can 2 ideas not co exists?
Well you reveal your ignorance in full if you want to dismiss physics, it is the most fundamental subject that others derive from. Your project is one of physics not electronics. Electronics is simply applied simplified physics. But then not the first time you contradict yourself or shoot yourself in the foot.
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Well you reveal your ignorance in full if you want to dismiss physics, it is the most fundamental subject that others derive from. Your project is one of physics not electronics. Electronics is simply applied simplified physics. But then not the first time you contradict yourself or shoot yourself in the foot.
Physics lectures have pushed fusion down everyones throats and dismissed plasma universe and electric universe theory for some time. If they were trully interested in advancing knowledge then they would have helped these theorys at the same time as working on the standard model. As i said until we have a working model all theorys deserved to be funded until disproven. If you watch skyscholar on youtube, the standard model has been destoryed by him. The standard model thinks the sun is a gas, when it clearly has a surface that is clearly liquid. Thats some pretty poor physics by anyones standards.
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Physics lectures have pushed fusion down everyones throats and dismissed plasma universe and electric universe theory for some time. If they were trully interested in advancing knowledge then they would have helped these theorys at the same time as working on the standard model. As i said until we have a working model all theorys deserved to be funded until disproven. If you watch skyscholar on youtube, the standard model has been destoryed by him. The standard model thinks the sun is a gas, when it clearly has a surface that is clearly liquid. Thats some pretty poor physics by anyones standards.
plasma universe and electric universe theories weren't what Watt, Maxwell, Heaviside, and Tesla used. They lived in the real world and built real things. All crackpots ever produce is a substance called "Tawk".
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plasma universe and electric universe theories weren't what Watt, Maxwell, Heaviside, and Tesla used. They lived in the real world and built real things. All crackpots ever produce is a substance called "Tawk".
And what have physicists build from the standard model of a fusion driven Sun? All crackpots to thus far.
Im not claiming these theorys correct, obviously since they are very different from mine. That doesnt give them the right to ridicule them when their theorys havent produced anything either and were equally ridiculous when you consider the standard model and the tidal model. And these theorys are taught like they have been proven when they havent, just because they claim to be the gate keepers of knowledge.
Its funny that simon says they are producing useless electronic engineer yet he thinks they are producing amazing plasma physicist. Like i said before 1 plasma physicist on YT told me that earth does not have a quadrupole. Thats basic stuff to not know. Even after being told where to look for it he still said i didnt know what i was talking about. I will attach the northern hemisphere quadrupole just incase you dont believe me.
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OK I think I got it reduced down to some brief language
(and thanks, for doing that paragraph break thing, looks more inviting to read).
How's this, as a re-statement, (without me distorting it)?
The ideas you have here are to build for alteration of flow type, laminar into turbulent type of flow. Now, I don't follow (the OP) narrative on tapping out some smaller quantity of (energy), from that 'turbulent' mode.
Is that paragraph anywhere close, to accurate ? Because, that way, it's more clear, the Tokamak and associated fusion are only similar in some of the terminology, not the fundamental process.
Is this getting better interpretation ?
Thanks
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OK I think I got it reduced down to some brief language
(and thanks, for doing that paragraph break thing, looks more inviting to read).
How's this, as a re-statement, (without me distorting it)?
The ideas you have here are to build for alteration of flow type, laminar into turbulent type of flow. Now, I don't follow (the OP) narrative on tapping out some smaller quantity of (energy), from that 'turbulent' mode.
Is that paragraph anywhere close, to accurate ? Because, that way, it's more clear, the Tokamak and associated fusion are only similar in some of the terminology, not the fundamental process.
Is this getting better interpretation ?
Thanks
Yes, especially in what you say about association of terminology, if i dont follow their terminology i turn into "dielectric thanoise" or what every his name is. Although i feel his pain as it is difficult to explain a vision in ur head into words that others can use to paint a similar picture. Esp when you have been thinking about it for so long that you expect certain things to be self evident and obviously they arent because at some point they werent obvious to me either. You just forget because it requires understanding things like tidal forces and aeroplane wings. Almost everyone thinks we know why an airplane wing works yet all theorys have been disproven by NASA. Another thing is the understanding that everything with an ion density is plasma. And plasma is any unbalanced atomic wave function travelling in geoschyonised orbits with the other ions around it. This is because any unbalanced rotating mass that has no fixed axis will create the path of a helical wave. Much like the solar systems does.
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Build yourself a working proof-of-concept model using ionized Argon, Xeon or Neon gas at low pressures. I imagine a device resembling a cathode ray tube. You will then have emphatic proof that non linear confinement of a plasma is pursuant with your patent application. Fund with NFTs :)
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Build yourself a working proof-of-concept model using ionized Argon, Xeon or Neon gas at low pressures. I imagine a device resembling a cathode ray tube. You will then have emphatic proof that non linear confinement of a plasma is pursuant with your patent application. Fund with NFTs :)
I have a funny feeling thats what the pink plasma squatter man was made with at Los Alamos. It would be awesome to find out specifically how they did it before you start designing it.
I will look into NFT's, thanks for the advice.
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https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fspas.2022.879314/full (https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fspas.2022.879314/full)
Check out the name of the model in this paper.... PLASMA UNIVERSE BABY YEAH......
The instantaneous achievement of the energy-consuming Pedersen–Cowling currents is explained by the TM0/TEM mode wave in the Earth-ionosphere waveguide/transmission line rather than the compressional waves in the magnetosphere and F-region ionosphere. REPPU (REProduce Plasma Universe) global simulation model equipped with a potential solver at the inner boundary of the model magnetosphere reproduces the PI and MI electric fields at middle latitudes and SCx (- +) at the dayside equator. The simulation results are found to be consistent with most features of observations, such as the time scale of PI and MI, direction of the midlatitude electric field and generation of the Cowling currents. The simulation proves that the electric fields and FACs are generated in the outer magnetosphere, transmitted to the polar ionosphere and then to the equator in the Pedersen–Cowling current circuit.
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Go ahead and explain TM, TEM, and the other one not listed in clear terms
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The paper has an abbreviation list,
Abbreviations
DL, stepwise low latitude magnetic disturbance; EEJ, equatorial electrojet; GML, geomagnetic latitude; HF, high frequency; MFD, main frequency deviation; MHD, magnetohydrodynamic; MI, main impulse; MLT, magnetic local time; PFD, preliminary frequency deviation; PI, preliminary impulse; SC, geomagnetic sudden commencement; SCF, SC-associated Doppler frequency; TM0, zeroth-order transverse magnetic.
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From you. You're the expert that's soliciting money. Explain TEM and TM and how they work.
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From you. You're the expert that's soliciting money. Explain TEM and TM and how they work.
They are just using specific terms for different waves, waves cause density changes in the plasma and density changes cause currents. As quoted below from the paper.
"The electric potentials are then transmitted with the Pedersen currents to the global ionosphere by the TM0/TEM mode wave in the Earth-ionosphere waveguide/transmission line."
Just enjoy the moment, we are on the brink of a major advancement in our civilization. Nothing can stop progress.
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They are just using specific terms for different waves, waves cause density changes in the plasma and density changes cause currents. As quoted below from the paper.
"The electric potentials are then transmitted with the Pedersen currents to the global ionosphere by the TM0/TEM mode wave in the Earth-ionosphere waveguide/transmission line."
Just enjoy the moment, we are on the brink of a major advancement in our civilization. Nothing can stop progress.
You're evading the question. How specifically do the waves differ? Where are these principles applied in your prospective generator?
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You're evading the question. How specifically do the waves differ? Where are these principles applied in your prospective generator?
Your asking me to understand a specific field of study the authors of that paper likely spent years on, to someone who has so far struggled to understand the basic principles of solar wind interaction with the magnetic field of our planet, correct me if im wrong there.
The waves differ because of the direction the earth is rotating relative to the solar wind, ie dawn and dusk, it effects the direction of rotation of the vortices, much like the direction of high and low pressure systems changing rotation between each hemisphere, clockwise/anticlockwise
You all complained about word salads and now you want me to explain something that you could just go and read for yourself from the ppl who have spent the most amount of time looking into the subject, with who know what kind of computing power at their disposal. If they had published the actual model then maybe i would be able to make it less of a word salad, but they didnt.
They dont apply to my generator other than how the magnetosphere of a decent sized reactor would interact with solar wind as the craft moves tho said wind.
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Your asking me to understand a specific field of study the authors of that paper likely spent years on, to someone who has so far struggled to understand the basic principles of solar wind interaction with the magnetic field of our planet, correct me if im wrong there.
You all complained about word salads and now you want me to explain something that you could just go and read for yourself from the ppl who have spent the most amount of time looking into the subject, with who know what kind of computing power at their disposal. If they had published the actual model then maybe i would be able to make it less of a word salad, but they didnt.
I'm asking you to explain how you can ask money to build a revolutionary machine while at the same time changing topic every time someone asks a direct question about it. You couldn't even copy and paste a definition when asked point blank for a definition.
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Hmm. Since the plasma reactor is non-linear it could be used to build an audio amplifier. Could the OP please provide relevant data about amplifier usage. This is an electronics forum after all.
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I'm asking you to explain how you can ask money to build a revolutionary machine while at the same time changing topic every time someone asks a direct question about it. You couldn't even copy and paste a definition when asked point blank for a definition.
That wasnt a direct question about my "revolutionary machine" now was it?
Remember i answered your question about black holes, was the fact i could answer that disappointing to you? Could you not find any fault with it so you just ignored it?
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Hmm. Since the plasma reactor is non-linear it could be used to build an audio amplifier. Could the OP please provide relevant data about amplifier usage. This is an electronics forum after all.
It can power your amplifier for a very very long time.
It amplifies the wave travelling around the toroid on the z-pinch axis, it then exacts this power and converts it to electrical energy 😊
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Hmm. Since the plasma reactor is non-linear it could be used to build an audio amplifier. Could the OP please provide relevant data about amplifier usage. This is an electronics forum after all.
It can power your amplifier for a very very long time.
It amplifies the wave travelling around the toroid on the z-pinch axis, it then exacts this power and converts it to electrical energy 😊
Have you ever heard of the travelling wave tube?
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Hmm. Since the plasma reactor is non-linear it could be used to build an audio amplifier. Could the OP please provide relevant data about amplifier usage. This is an electronics forum after all.
It can power your amplifier for a very very long time.
It amplifies the wave travelling around the toroid on the z-pinch axis, it then exacts this power and converts it to electrical energy 😊
Have you ever heard of the travelling wave tube?
Cant say i have mate, although it sounds like the smaller tubes inside the hadley and ferrel cells. I use straws bunched together to visualize the individual waves of ions creating larger "wave tubes". 1st pic attached
Also the plasma tubes of earths magnetosphere as done by the reseacher that modeled earths magnetic field. 2nd pic
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2nd pic
I think we've seen those many times previously. Maybe you could just refer to the first instance instead of re-posting them every page? That would save quite a few MB each page refresh too.
Also, possibly worth bearing in mind, most of the dodgy theories chaps we get posting seem to rely on a small set of images they post many times in a thread, as if they are armour or something. That's as reliable an indicator of, ah, strangeness as references to the skyscholar channel.
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What would the cut and paste cult do if they couldn't edit other people's work?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/?title=File:Geodynamo_Between_Reversals.gif
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Hmm. Since the plasma reactor is non-linear it could be used to build an audio amplifier. Could the OP please provide relevant data about amplifier usage. This is an electronics forum after all.
It can power your amplifier for a very very long time.
It amplifies the wave travelling around the toroid on the z-pinch axis, it then exacts this power and converts it to electrical energy 😊
Have you ever heard of the travelling wave tube?
Cant say i have mate, although it sounds like the smaller tubes inside the hadley and ferrel cells. I use straws bunched together to visualize the individual waves of ions creating larger "wave tubes". 1st pic attached
Also the plasma tubes of earths magnetosphere as done by the reseacher that modeled earths magnetic field. 2nd pic
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Before you go and lock the thread, I'd like to introduce Scott to this person:
With this guy on your team you can only succeed!
McBryce.
Thank McBryce this was pure gold.
You are right the above guy can do math and with Nonlinearplasma new theory they will help whole humanity.
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What would the cut and paste cult do if they couldn't edit other people's work?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/?title=File:Geodynamo_Between_Reversals.gif
Its called standing on the shoulders of giants big man. We are all editing other people work. The only difference is i have actually had an orginal idea, something very few people can claim.
Theres that word dynamo again. Magnetic field rotating inside another rotating magnetic field does what?
Selfsustaining dynamos everywhere but the only energy source for it all is fusion, haha played like a violin 😂
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2nd pic
I think we've seen those many times previously. Maybe you could just refer to the first instance instead of re-posting them every page? That would save quite a few MB each page refresh too.
Also, possibly worth bearing in mind, most of the dodgy theories chaps we get posting seem to rely on a small set of images they post many times in a thread, as if they are armour or something. That's as reliable an indicator of, ah, strangeness as references to the skyscholar channel.
Actually for pages of thread i got abused by people who where to lazy to study the images and read the txt that need the images studied to understand it. Feel free to go back and read the i only got past the first paragraph blah blah. Yet the images werent looked it. How much easier do you want it made for you?
Skyscholar is a good channel, the CME is about as ridiculously as it comes. How the hell could microwave radiation be used to measure the big bang? Microwave radation isnt excatly know for its ability to linger around doing nothing for a few billion years if it was opening the door of a microwave would be an issue. Anyone that believes that is delusional
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How the hell could microwave radiation be used to measure the big bang? Microwave radation isnt excatly know for its ability to linger around doing nothing for a few billion years if it was opening the door of a microwave would be an issue. Anyone that believes that is delusional
Having had the pleasure of actually meeting the humble and polite Arno Penzias and hearing him explain that in some detail, your strident, ignorant dismissal of his discovery and work is quite a jarring contrast. You can legitimately question the detailed results of Penzias' work, but your question or objection is so basic and the answer to it so obvious that--as I suspected--instead of even responding to your ravings, we should have dismissed you and your 'idea' as nothing more than an astrophysical version of the Voynich manuscript.
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Having had the pleasure of actually meeting the humble and polite Arno Penzias and hearing him explain that in some detail, your strident, ignorant dismissal of his discovery and work is quite a jarring contrast. You can legitimately question the detailed results of Penzias' work, but your question or objection is so basic and the answer to it so obvious that--as I suspected--instead of even responding to your ravings, we should have dismissed you and your 'idea' as nothing more than an astrophysical version of the Voynich manuscript.
Unfortunately humble and polite doesnt mean anything in regards to his "discovery". If the standard model thinks the sun is gas and it isnt, then do you really believe they know what they are looking at when it comes to even longer time scales?
If the sun is made of gas, then where did all the heavy elements come from to make the inner planets?
Oh thats a big elephant in the room isnt it.
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If the sun is made of gas, then where did all the heavy elements come from to make the inner planets?
Oh thats a big elephant in the room isnt it.
Not really, it has been explained. You can actually read about it, search for "heavy element origin".
Also, you should get in touch with aetherist, he also has some fascinating ideas: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091) , I'm sure you'll get along splendidly, assuming that you are not the same guy.
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the Voynich manuscript
See, that's why I don't like to see these threads locked - would that have crossed my radar otherwise? It hadn't so far in my travels.
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i have actually had an orginal idea, something very few people can claim.
I do have those visions, too. But most of them are utter BS and I a) don't ask for millions b) don't keep bothering other people.
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i have actually had an orginal idea, something very few people can claim.
I do have those visions, too. But most of them are utter BS and I a) don't ask for millions b) don't keep bothering other people.
One day you might have one worthy of asking mate, and i wish you the best of luck. And always remember it is your choice to be here. No one is forcing you, be a man and accept that you alone decide what you look at, and how about you stop "bothering" my thread if that how you see it?
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One day you might have one worthy of asking mate
You HAVEN'T got any such idea. It is complete nonsense (as far as I can tell), and also taking into account what others are saying.
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i have actually had an orginal idea, something very few people can claim.
I do have those visions, too. But most of them are utter BS and I a) don't ask for millions b) don't keep bothering other people.
It's even more complicated than that.
I think having an idea is probably the worst point for starting an exploration of a subject or concept. The objectivity can be drowned out by incompetence, lack of knowledge, narcissism, lack of objectivity and at worst blind optimism. I've seen it numerous times in the startup sector. Just because an idea exists doesn't mean it's viable, executable or even practical. The killer is you have to have a framework in which to test an idea to constrain it. Isolated ideas tend not to have that framework.
When you got to an investor and ask for capital to execute your vision, the investor is going to have a framework in which their thinking is constrained. You need one too. Otherwise you're going to be laughed out of the building. Which is what is happening here.
The correct way to approach this is to skip blue sky ideas and find a problem that needs to be solved. That might be a personal of professional discovery but it must fill a niche and your objective should be to either better an existing solution to the problem or find a new solution to it. The most realistic outcomes are from incremental progress, not large grand discoveries or changing the game despite what is promoted. And most importantly it must be something you understand intimately because you are going to get reamed by everyone on the journey constantly and any flaw will tear your entire universe down.
I have a lot of experience in this, both from the investment side and also the side of quite frankly milking folk like OP for some months of contract work then fucking off very quickly before the whole ship sinks.
OP: please take the experience and advice above.
If you don't, as mentioned I am available if you want a contract software engineer :)
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Not really, it has been explained. You can actually read about it, search for "heavy element origin".
Also, you should get in touch with aetherist, he also has some fascinating ideas: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091) , I'm sure you'll get along splendidly, assuming that you are not the same guy.
So you are trying to tell me the heavy elements came from a neutron star collision? Can you tell me when our star was a neutron star and it collided with another neutron star? Or even just when our star collided with another? Is our star a recurrent nova star? If a star goes Nova and all the smaller gas elements expand away from each other when do the get close enough to fuse in to heavy elements?
It has also been confirmed that in a recurrent nova, that the entire mass of the star remains within the systems magnetosphere.
Not to mention the fact they say they have found stars old than the big bang. Maybe just maybe, we dont understand the mechanism of star life as well as we thought we did.
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i have actually had an orginal idea, something very few people can claim.
I do have those visions, too. But most of them are utter BS and I a) don't ask for millions b) don't keep bothering other people.
It's even more complicated than that.
I think having an idea is probably the worst point for starting an exploration of a subject or concept. The objectivity can be drowned out by incompetence, lack of knowledge, narcissism, lack of objectivity and at worst blind optimism. I've seen it numerous times in the startup sector. Just because an idea exists doesn't mean it's viable, executable or even practical. The killer is you have to have a framework in which to test an idea to constrain it. Isolated ideas tend not to have that framework.
When you got to an investor and ask for capital to execute your vision, the investor is going to have a framework in which their thinking is constrained. You need one too. Otherwise you're going to be laughed out of the building. Which is what is happening here.
The correct way to approach this is to skip blue sky ideas and find a problem that needs to be solved. That might be a personal of professional discovery but it must fill a niche and your objective should be to either better an existing solution to the problem or find a new solution to it. The most realistic outcomes are from incremental progress, not large grand discoveries or changing the game despite what is promoted. And most importantly it must be something you understand intimately because you are going to get reamed by everyone on the journey constantly and any flaw will tear your entire universe down.
I have a lot of experience in this, both from the investment side and also the side of quite frankly milking folk like OP for some months of contract work then fucking off very quickly before the whole ship sinks.
OP: please take the experience and advice above.
If you don't, as mentioned I am available if you want a contract software engineer :)
No thanks
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No thanks
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So you are trying to tell me -------------------massive cut--------------------------------- understand the mechanism of star life as well as we thought we did.
OP-Translation "Oops I'm losing here, let's start a new QUESTION to get me out of this fix".
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One day you might have one worthy of asking mate
You HAVEN'T got any such idea. It is complete nonsense (as far as I can tell), and also taking into account what others are saying.
Maybe you arent as smart as you think you are then. Because regardless of what you think you know. It has been proven that non linear plasma expands with an explosive pressure gradients. If that explosive pressure gradient is more efficient than that produced by tokamak or other fusion devices than i have an idea worthy of investment. Just because you dont understand that a 360° wave amplifies on the z pinch axis of a toroid doesnt mean it is not true.
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So you are trying to tell me -------------------massive cut--------------------------------- understand the mechanism of star life as well as we thought we did.
OP-Translation "Oops I'm losing here, let's start a new QUESTION to get me out of this fix".
Its the same question genius. Or are you saying they havent been telling us that supernova create heavy elements?
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No thanks
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Yeah sorry mate, you will get a job soon. Dont give up
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Yeah sorry mate, you will get a job soon. Dont give up
Funny. If only.
Let me extrapolate with some more advice:
Firstly, you need to be careful who your audience is. Some of us may have had the capital to invest in your idea if it was viable and well presented.
Secondly, investors will google who you are and come across this thread and your treatment of the brand you are building and the subject matter.
No one will want to be related to the phrase nonlinearplasma ever again. You have entirely compromised your idea. Protecting your reputation is almost more important than protecting the idea.
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Maybe you arent as smart as you think you are then. Because regardless of what you think you know. It has been proven that non linear plasma expands with an explosive pressure gradients. If that explosive pressure gradient is more efficient than that produced by tokamak or other fusion devices than i have an idea worthy of investment. Just because you dont understand that a 360° wave amplifies on the z pinch axis of a toroid doesnt mean it is not true.
There are many widely accepted, good quality, published scientific papers. But a person, can't just blindly link/mention one or more such papers, and then claim they have invented a free energy perpetual motion machine, that will definitely work.
Just about anyone, can string together a list, of perfectly valid/correct/accepted papers. Perhaps somewhat related in what a person is trying to claim they have invented. But that doesn't mean that what they are suggesting, is NOT complete junk, and also won't work in practice.
Analogy:
Given http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ti/_Texas_Instruments_Electronics_Series/Walston_Transistor_Circuit_Design_1963.pdf (http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ti/_Texas_Instruments_Electronics_Series/Walston_Transistor_Circuit_Design_1963.pdf)
and
https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/tidu017 (https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/tidu017) {Op Amp with Single Discrete Bipolar Transistor Output Drive}
My totally non-electronics neighbor, will design the worlds best transistor amplifier. 1,000 watts, and zero distortion of any kind. He has watched a water feature in his garden for the last 6 months, to give him inspiration and he has already designed and built a small windmill, made of paper, also in his garden.
Please give my neighbor $15,000,000 to help him succeed with this new zero distortion amplifier.
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Yeah sorry mate, you will get a job soon. Dont give up
Funny. If only.
Let me extrapolate with some more advice:
Firstly, you need to be careful who your audience is. Some of us may have had the capital to invest in your idea if it was viable and well presented.
Secondly, investors will google who you are and come across this thread and your treatment of the brand you are building and the subject matter.
No one will want to be related to the phrase nonlinearplasma ever again. You have entirely compromised your idea. Protecting your reputation is almost more important than protecting the idea.
Possible, but they will also see someone that provided all the information need to understand something in the simpliest possible manner including peer review literature that was ignored. While constantly being attacked he defended the idea as he should. Remember you asked me for a job, i said no thanks. If you took that in an offensive way then its likely because you were trying to offend me and expected the same response back. Good luck with your job hunt. My invention is at the hardware stage of development, the software devolpment will come once we have the funds for the hardware. I will keep you in mind if you get your head around the basics
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Its the same question genius. Or are you saying they havent been telling us that supernova create heavy elements?
On the subject of genius's, as already mentioned. Why have you created this thread, on an Electronics forum?
Surely somewhere much more oriented towards Physics/Science and similar, would make much more sense.
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There are many widely accepted, good quality, published scientific papers. But a person, can't just blindly link/mention one or more such papers, and then claim they have invented a free energy perpetual motion machine, that will definitely work.
Just about anyone, can string together a list, of perfectly valid/correct/accepted papers. Perhaps somewhat related in what a person is trying to claim they have invented. But that doesn't mean that what they are suggesting, is NOT complete junk, and also won't work in practice.
Analogy:
Given http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ti/_Texas_Instruments_Electronics_Series/Walston_Transistor_Circuit_Design_1963.pdf (http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ti/_Texas_Instruments_Electronics_Series/Walston_Transistor_Circuit_Design_1963.pdf)
and
https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/tidu017 (https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/tidu017) {Op Amp with Single Discrete Bipolar Transistor Output Drive}
My totally non-electronics neighbor, will design the worlds best transistor amplifier. 1,000 watts, and zero distortion of any kind. He has watched a water feature in his garden for the last 6 months, to give him inspiration and he has already designed and built a small windmill, made of paper, also in his garden.
Please give my neighbor $15,000,000 to help him succeed with this new zero distortion amplifier.
Not everyone has a use for an amplifier, but everyone wants cheaper energy. And 15m is not a lot of money for a project like this. I remember reading about a Canadian company that got $50m to build a fusion reactor from crowdfunding. It obviously didnt work or we would have fusion by now, would you class that as a scam or would you say it was worth a try? Advancement takes gambling with ideas that might not work. A lot of time they dont but the knowledge gained is worth it. You learn more from failure than you do from success. Failure is a myth if you dont give up and look at it as a learning curve.
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Yeah sorry mate, you will get a job soon. Dont give up
Funny. If only.
Let me extrapolate with some more advice:
Firstly, you need to be careful who your audience is. Some of us may have had the capital to invest in your idea if it was viable and well presented.
Secondly, investors will google who you are and come across this thread and your treatment of the brand you are building and the subject matter.
No one will want to be related to the phrase nonlinearplasma ever again. You have entirely compromised your idea. Protecting your reputation is almost more important than protecting the idea.
Possible, but they will also see someone that provided all the information need to understand something in the simpliest possible manner including peer review literature that was ignored. While constantly being attacked he defended the idea as he should. Remember you asked me for a job, i said no thanks. If you took that in an offensive way then its likely because you were trying to offend me and expected the same response back. Good luck with your job hunt. My invention is at the hardware stage of development, the software devolpment will come once we have the funds for the hardware. I will keep you in mind if you get your head around the basics
I don't think so. Your personality and competence level is coming through here and that is a big red flag for anyone who would invest in this idea.
This is definitely not at the point where actually investing in hardware is a thing. It's not even past the conceptual phase yet. No one would fund it without proofs and you are absolutely obviously unable to produce them or explain the idea in terms which are communicable to anyone who would be able to turn this into hardware. And this is your job to do to convince any investors and participants in the merit of your idea.
When presented with this you flap your arms around, criticise the questioner, post graphics and avoid answering the question being asked which are being asked to establish your credibility, of which I conclude there is none.
I think you missed the point. I didn't ask you for a job. I offered my services for a flat up front fee because you're not going to be around long enough for me to have to do any work and I still get paid, which is the maximum ROI. This was really a facetious stab at the notion of who you are likely to attract in your current stage of development. I don't know anyone who would risk their reputation being associated with this project.
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Not everyone has a use for an amplifier, but everyone wants cheaper energy. And 15m is not a lot of money for a project like this. I remember reading about a Canadian company that got $50m to build a fusion reactor from crowdfunding. It obviously didnt work or we would have fusion by now, would you class that as a scam or would you say it was worth a try? Advancement takes gambling with ideas that might not work. A lot of time they dont but the knowledge gained is worth it. You learn more from failure than you do from success. Failure is a myth if you dont give up and look at it as a learning curve.
Have you, at least got a degree (or above) in Physics (or closely related subject) ?
Alternatively, what is your highest academic achievement, within the field of Physics ?
At least one of your answers in this thread, would seem to indicated, a significant lack of knowledge and understanding, as regards Physics (and probably Science).
Alternatively-MK2, have you done any significant work, within the field of Physics (and similar). E.g. Made an experiment, which tests out a complicated Physics phenomenon, ideally with written up results ?
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I think we are 8 pages past the point where this thread should have been locked and the OP banned.
I don't see how any sort of constructive debate is to be had here.
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I think we are 8 pages past the point where this thread should have been locked and the OP banned.
I don't see how any sort of constructive debate is to be had here.
The moderator has already said he's not going to do that. I don't see the point. What's the problem? I say let live, as long as it doesn't spill over to the rest of the forum. If you don't like it, don't click on the thread and stop responding.
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I think we are 8 pages past the point where this thread should have been locked and the OP banned.
I don't see how any sort of constructive debate is to be had here.
The moderator has already said he's not going to do that. I don't see the point. What's the problem? I say let live, as long as it doesn't spill over to the rest of the forum. If you don't like it, don't click on the thread and stop responding.
They only hang around so long as they dont get called out by the rest of the tribe. It's Tribal mentality pure and simple
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They only hang around so long as they dont get called out by the rest of the tribe. It's Tribal mentality pure and simple
So you publicly admit your idea is completely wrong and a crazy idea. Since you seem to have made absolutely no attempt at answering my most recent questions, and merely attempting to deflect things away, in another direction.
Also, do you admit you have other account(s), on this forum ?
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Have you, at least got a degree (or above) in Physics (or closely related subject) ?
Alternatively, what is your highest academic achievement, within the field of Physics ?
At least one of your answers in this thread, would seem to indicated, a significant lack of knowledge and understanding, as regards Physics (and probably Science).
Alternatively-MK2, have you done any significant work, within the field of Physics (and similar). E.g. Made an experiment, which tests out a complicated Physics phenomenon, ideally with written up results ?
We have already had that discussion. Degrees mean nothing, ask Simon it was him that said it.
I also explained an experiment i have done, and the inventions i have designed and made.
I understand electrical z pinches, maybe you dont but here is one using a toroidal coil with DC electrical current. The charge/current of Rotating plasma doesnt obviously oscillatate like AC, it is travelling in 1 direction around the toroid, so the z pinch produced on the plasma in the center of the toroid is compressed just like the can is with DC electrical current. If im wrong about that PLEASE say so because i will know im speaking to the wrong ppl that dont even understand how electricity works.
Lets try this simple question...
If a fluid is compressed will it
a) flow to an area of lower density.
b) expand once it has flowed out of the mechanism that is compressing it?
c) create its own fields as current flows
d) all of above
Add on.. for the record that pepsi can was z pinched full of fluid and as a result it looks to have blown out the ends of the can. It takes a descent amount of force to do that.
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So you publicly admit your idea is completely wrong and a crazy idea. Since you seem to have made absolutely no attempt at answering my most recent questions, and merely attempting to deflect things away, in another direction.
Also, do you admit you have other account(s), on this forum ?
This was an answer to someone else. Your answer was done after. Your not the center of the universe, others have contributed to and in a nicer manner than you.
I have no other accout on this forum and clearly you made up that other part.
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Degrees mean nothing
Since you seem to be saying (in an indirect way), you don't have a Degree (or perhaps any ?) qualifications or appropriate equivalent experience (which may not count, anyway). Why should anyone here, consider your theories on Physics, to have any merit ?
Alternatively, you could build a working model, of your free energy, perpetual motion machine, and then sort of prove many people, wrong.
I'd find it very hard to believe you have invented a free energy machine. Your lack of relevant qualifications, and no demonstrations of a working machine. Make it very difficult, to believe in your idea.
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I asked him the same thing here:
Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
As an electrical engineer who knows that engineers like James Watt and Eric Laithwaite build the world around you. All the biggest advancement in our history were done by engineers. We are top dog, stop think we have peers, we are our own peers, our work is proven by building. If engineers were given the money that physicst get to do stupid experiments we could build a future better than the one we currently have in front of us. Go search how much money is being pumped into fusion. Do you think an idea such as mine (and others) doesnt deserve a tiny percentage of that? Oh know, just incase they are wrong and im right? Can 2 ideas not co exists?
"I thought that fellow engineers (such as those on this forum) would be more receptive of my ideas compare to physicists" would have been a lot more to the point.
No need for that weird rant about the superiority of engineers or whatever.
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I have no other accout on this forum and clearly you made up that other part.
Here is the post, that refers to another account:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/msg4219147/?topicseen#msg4219147 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/msg4219147/?topicseen#msg4219147)
But I partly mis-remembered it. I mistakenly thought it was pointing out another of your accounts. On re-reading it, I'm not sure if they are trying to hint it might be the same person or not.
Quoted here, to save clicking on it:
If the
Also, you should get in touch with aetherist, he also has some fascinating ideas: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=showposts;u=832091) , I'm sure you'll get along splendidly, assuming that you are not the same guy.
EDIT:
This 'other guys' posts, seem a bit too familiar. E.g.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/sagittarius-a (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/sagittarius-a)*/msg4180645/#msg4180645
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Its the same question genius. Or are you saying they havent been telling us that supernova create heavy elements?
On the subject of genius's, as already mentioned. Why have you created this thread, on an Electronics forum?
Surely somewhere much more oriented towards Physics/Science and similar, would make much more sense.
I asked him the same question.
Nonlinearplasma, wouldn't it have been a better idea to post this to a physics forum instead of a predominantly EE related forum?
As an electrical engineer who knows that engineers like James Watt and Eric Laithwaite build the world around you. All the biggest advancement in our history were done by engineers. We are top dog, stop think we have peers, we are our own peers, our work is proven by building. If engineers were given the money that physicst get to do stupid experiments we could build a future better than the one we currently have in front of us. Go search how much money is being pumped into fusion. Do you think an idea such as mine (and others) doesnt deserve a tiny percentage of that? Oh know, just incase they are wrong and im right? Can 2 ideas not co exists?
"I thought that fellow engineers (such as those on this forum) would be more receptive of my ideas compare to physicists" would have been a lot more to the point.
No need for that weird rant about the superiority of engineers or whatever.
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But I partly mis-remembered it. I mistakenly thought it was pointing out another of your accounts. On re-reading it, I'm not sure if they are trying to hint it might be the same person or not.
I think y'all are too concentrated on attacking the man rather than the idea, now, and getting carried away.
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I asked him the same question.
Well I'd actually asked him that question, BEFORE you did, in the thread, as far as I can tell.
See here:
First, it needs to be a forum (or sub-forum), where it covers your subject area. Since this is primarily an electronics forum. I don't think it is the right place, for you.
EDIT: I suspect others (possibly before me), also asked the same or similar question.
I have repeated some bits, in a further attempt to get useful answers from the OP. In my opinion, they seem to be rather awkward/difficult/tricky to get any real/valid/useful answers from.
So if that means I have to repeat myself and/or what others have already asked, then sorry. But the OP, appears to be rather difficult to deal with (in my opinion).
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I think y'all are too concentrated on attacking the man rather than the idea, now, and getting carried away.
They don't seem to be suitable, to discuss the issue with.
The quickest way of trying to convey the concept, of why discussions don't work out. Is trying to talk with someone who thinks the Earth is flat, or free energy machines can be easily made, with some magnets and stuff.
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I think y'all are too concentrated on attacking the man rather than the idea, now, and getting carried away.
They don't seem to be suitable, to discuss the issue with.
The solution is surely not to discuss the issue with, then.
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Lots of blah blah blah.
I think the moderators have a harder job, doing what they do, than maybe is visible...So I try to extend a lot of patience.
Readers get impatient, sometimes calling for a ban, my self included, (in and out). I'd tend to trust the folks trying to run/ manage various disruption. The managers are, almost certainly only calling things, for now. I trust they 'know' if action (isolating bad actors) is warrented.
Meanwhile, I got my own shortcomings, better to poke my head in (here), on a measured basis.
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The solution is surely not to discuss the issue with, then.
It seems to be down to human nature/psychology. In ways that perhaps I can only partially know about and/or are subconscious mechanisms in play.
Or to put it another way. The existence of this thread, on a forum, that I'm currently looking at. Is "pushing my buttons".
You're right. In theory, I should just ignore it, and carry on with my life. But in practice, ......
I think threads like this, can trigger certain behaviors. Which can make certain people, interested and involved in it, until they reach a point of closure.
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Sometimes, I reply to threads that are not as far-fetched as this one, because I fear that a newby might not recognize that the technical content is not to be trusted.
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Sure, and I, for one, value your contributions when you choose to join in, Tim. What I am suggesting is that trying to find personal stuff to throw around isn't refuting the idea and will only lead to more such attacks from both sides.
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https://www.einstein-website.de/z_kids/certificatekids.html (https://www.einstein-website.de/z_kids/certificatekids.html)
https://www.openculture.com/2020/05/nikola-teslas-grades-from-high-school-university-a-fascinating-glimpse.html (https://www.openculture.com/2020/05/nikola-teslas-grades-from-high-school-university-a-fascinating-glimpse.html)
"It was during his time at technical school that Tesla first devised the idea of alternating current, though he could not yet articulate a working design (he was told by a professor that the feat would be akin to building a perpetual motion machine). He solved the engineering challenge after leaving school"
“Tesla’s education was referred to sporadically, as if it had not influenced his scientific reflection, experimenting and inventions.” That is in large part, many Tesla scholars now argue, because the best education Tesla received was the one he gave himself.
So in short before tesla invented AC current the established professors believed it to be perpetual motions, sound familiar?
And the best education he got was self education. I have spend 3 years constant sailing & 10 years total on yachts while saving for the big trip home, and in that time when the weather or covid didnt allow for me to sail i studied. Reading paper after paper and picture after picture. My major break tho was when i looked at the magnetic structure around the black hole of the galaxy and it resemble the squatterman. I realised that charge rotating in the toroid was travelling parallel to each other. I then searched parallel circle and the first image was a sine wave. That is when i knew to apply coulomb's law to concentric circles, aka concentric helical waves around the toroid. My next thought was, that is the tell tails on my yachts sail. The ions in the medium are changing the density as the distance between them increase to generate lift, and on the windward side of the sail the ions are being compressed increasing the density of the medium and push the sail cloth forward.
The good thing about my family is, as a child they worshipped self taught mechanics, growing up on a farm the ability to fix a tractor is a handy skill to admire. Lots of my uncles and cousins are fantastic tradesmen because of this idea of applying yourself. Or as my Papa would say stick in until you stick out.
If this isnt ur idea of an education and you dont believe in the Non Linear Plasma Reactor, thats fine with me. Im sure all the other inventors and engineers that have built many great things will not agree and faced the same kind of push back. They didnt care and either do i.
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Nikola Tesla's inventions and promotion of polyphase alternating current was a great step forward in electrical engineering.
Like other geniuses, some of his work late in life was not so fruitful. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/?sh=4adf64b71a21 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/?sh=4adf64b71a21)
Newton spent too much time at the end of his life interpreting the Book of Daniel--some think this was a result of inhaling too much mercury.
Einstein's famous failed late work was the development of a Unified Field Theory.
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The standard model thinks the sun is a gas, when it clearly has a surface that is clearly liquid. Thats some pretty poor physics by anyones standards.
Um yes and no, there is a point deemed to be the surface, in the same way the earths atmosphere has an agreed limit even though particles may be found higher you have to set a threshold somewhere. but you are babbling nonsense anyway.
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Yeah, MK11, My buttons, too, they get pushed, approximately in proportion to how badly I call (him) out. Which, in my view, is GRIFTERS territory: As long as (we) shut-up, let'em spew far and wide...
I believe, we, or this forum in general, could be judged, in public, by EITHER how we 'kick em out' in a great big (mob) rush...OR, by the degree of wisdom and tolerance on display. I'd like 'the world' to see a great 'blog spot', that, obviously, endures some troubles, in balance, and takes action, in balance.
In that spirit, we are neither 'wimps', nor 'chumps', but don't respond as bullies, either.
Ok, now I'll put my (fake) priest's uniform back on (lol).
One boss, once said, "It's only words, man..."
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My 'only' regret, is I've mis-spelled a name: Sorry Mk14,
about that.
OP, it's not the technical basis, it's more that (you) cover for that disaster of a set of mis-spoken TECH terminology, abuse of context, it's that you directly violate the standards laid out, for polite, discourse.
You could be talkin 'TIME MACHINE' design, as long as leave out the personal attacks. You're lucky to be here today...as obviously and continuously you deliberately violate that first rule, of courteous treatment, a display, really, a display that says you are valued here, even if it's a Levitating Time Machine that looks like Marilin Monroe. (Actually, I'm making that part up...)
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So in short before tesla invented AC current the established professors believed it to be perpetual motions, sound familiar?
Another silly fabrication. Tesla didn't invent AC current. Early dynamos all had AC current internally, something their builders fully realized because they used the commutator to rectify it. AC current and systems were already extant while Tesla was still in school in Graz.
Tesla notably supposedly invented the AC induction motor and polyphase power, although there were contemporaries with competing claims. He was a bright, inventive engineer but not anything like the lone voice in the wilderness that he is sometimes imagined to be. These inventions were not universally ridiculed, but rather quickly adopted and developed by George Westinghouse, whose company had already adopted AC generation and distribution systems.
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Maybe a more apt personality to refer to is Philo Farnsworth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth). He did not go through the "conventional" educational system but learned and built intuition about electromagnetics buy repairing and building electric motors. Eventually he worked on nuclear fusion device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor) using electrostatic containment of plasma while high energy ions are injected.
Point is he used real electricity and real magnetism to build real things. He didn't sit around talking while waiting for physics to change to suit him.
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My personal hero from that era is C P Steinmetz, who came to the US as a deformed political refugee, worked for General Electric, and helped put electrical engineering on a sound mathematical and physical basis.
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it's that you directly violate the standards laid out, for polite, discourse.
You could be talkin 'TIME MACHINE' design, as long as leave out the personal attacks.
Let him who casts the first stone, eh. I think if you bother to check back through the thread you'll find the OP isn't the most prolific, or even more than minor, source of ad hominem pronouncements. OTOH, can you point to any one of your posts that's been even slightly polite?
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It's one thing to discuss theoretical (even impractical) ideas, but portraying those ideas to be rooted in science and successful experimentation while offering no proof in hopes of swindling people out of money, polite can be tossed right out the window. And as for the forum rules... to allow such attempts to scam and intellectually mislead people persist, those mods better look the other way when a few negative things are said.
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There's utility in having a record of someone's non-answers and unprofessionalism that will appear along with (if not higher) than their site in a search engine.
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Furthermore, if this site would offer an unfollow or ignore option, I would have taken it. However, that is not the case, and when you force people to be reminded of the nonsense by keeping the threads that fall off the pcb popping up in their unread replies, guess what.... Someone is gonna fire a few shots eventually. That's the price to be paid by designing this site to operate the way it does.
...@abquke, there is no utility in having a record of anything here simply because most people hide behind enigmatic user names. If I start spewing gibberish and scamming people, then start a company, do you really think comments from "antenna" will affect that company? Probably not.
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force people to be reminded of the nonsense by keeping the threads that fall off the pcb popping up in their unread replies
There is an unnotify option on every thread page if you're contributed. Then you don't get notified of subsequent activity in the thread.
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force people to be reminded of the nonsense by keeping the threads that fall off the pcb popping up in their unread replies
There is an unnotify option on every thread page if you're contributed. Then you don't get notified of subsequent activity in the thread.
Thats good to know, thanks! And at one time I was about to do that and went to log in just to find out that I was banned (somehow) for spam. It took over a month to be able to log back in (probably longer, I gave up on this site for a while after that). When I get more comfortable in the idea that won't happen again, I will consider monetarily contributing.
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OP, ;. One suggestion, thanks to Ron An. and Bill Ca.:
You get yourself, a GIANT vacume tube, early 1940's type, preferably with a PLATE ELECTRODE cap, up top.
Next, a small'ish project box with 2 switches. One switch, of course, an ON/OFF toggle.
Of course, will need a tube socket, mount that sucker dead-center...Maybe even, need a little bag of sand, to stabilize your 'OffOscillator', ...maybe even put a Dymo-Tape legend:. "OFF-OSCILLATOR". (Thanks, Ron and Bill).
Then, you 'chat em up', (hitting on, your favorite opposite type). Bear with me, here, I've got PRONOUN LAWs to evade...Just kidding, as California doesn't have any 'Pronoun Speech' laws...But I have to evade some kinda law, maybe it's gonna be: some new law...
I'm voting for a 'Pocket Protector Wearer's Protection Law'.
OK no, but, with all these new California Laws, some international WEB sites might have headaches, someone like me can only speculate. I mean, we might be stuck, for a while, with all kinda unpleasant.
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Nikola Tesla's inventions and promotion of polyphase alternating current was a great step forward in electrical engineering.
Like other geniuses, some of his work late in life was not so fruitful. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/?sh=4adf64b71a21 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/?sh=4adf64b71a21)
Newton spent too much time at the end of his life interpreting the Book of Daniel--some think this was a result of inhaling too much mercury.
Einstein's famous failed late work was the development of a Unified Field Theory.
Hi Tim, Tesla's later idea may have not been fruitful. Although what path would he have taken us down had he been well funded by the patent he gave up the royalties too? I believe that was an unfortunate mistake that cost humanity a great deal. The words he left behind (to me) shows a genius beyond that of any other man in history.
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have the key to the universe.
In terms of understanding the Plasma Universe, this to me meant that if you use a clockface to plot the trajectory of multiply helical waves travelling in parallel and say that 3 is 90° around the axis, 6 is 180° and 9 is 270°. Then you say: the sine wave of the electric field is between 12 and 6 o'clock and the magnetic field is between 3 and 9 oclock. This mean that 12 is positive or north and 6 is negative or south. While 3 is north in the magnetic field and 9 is south. The the value of positive or negative depends on which side is closest to you so we have a small issue already that needs clarify because north and south cant change.
This is going to get long, i do apologize.
The 1st thing we notice is; that in the magnetic field 3 and 9 are always next to each other if the 2 waves are travelling in the same direction and the pattern repeats regardless of which location the particle is at around the wave. This is why 2 parallel current attract, because the opposite pole is always next to each other. Obviously travelling in the opposite direction the 2 9's are opposite and they repel. (NON LINEAR PLASMA)
The 2nd thing we notice is; if we rotate our view around a helical wave we see them spin down at 3 oclock and up at 9. While the 2 observers looking end on at the wave view it as clockwise in the direction of travel and anti clockwise look at it coming toward you.
The 3rd thing we notice is; when the 2 perpendicular observers view an ion or electron wave peak spin around, at 9 o'clock the observer looking across from the 3 oclock position views spin down while the observer outside of 9 has spin up. When at 3 o'clock the particle is spinning down for that observer and up for the one looking across from 9 o'clock. (use a mirror and spin a ball)
The 4th thing we notice; 2 observer rotating with the particle, 1 above the axis but below the particle and 1 outside, view the spin direction as opposite constantly, if our observer is orientated head clockwise then at 9 and 3 the particle is spinning up for the outside observer and down for the inside.
The 5th thing; to the 2 observers in the same orientations 12 is positive and 6 is negative for the electric field. In the magnetic field the 9 is positive for 1 observer while the 3 is positive for the other. While for the rotating observers the particle remains at the same height above the axis and the negative moves around always at the opposite location.
The 6th thing; to the axis of rotation, or common axis between the magnetic field and the electric field of the wave no negative value exists to this observer, for now lets call him the one eyed monster. Only height above the axis can be calculated from his position but he always views the underside of the wave (negative or electrostatic force or a south pole). That's why our current understanding of gravity has no replusive force.
This all means that; what is positive to 1 is negative to another, but when one views north the opposite cant views south because that was predetermined, and when orientation is flipped so is the direction of spin but not the value or field.
When considering a toroid, the clockfaces turns around due to the change in direction of travel, to the same stationary observer. 3 remains on the outside and 9 on the inside. Yet 12 and 6 stay put. This means South poles faces each other to the center of the toroid for the magnetic field, which is correct if we wrap maxwells straight wave around the toroid. Since we valued that location as negative we have 2 negatives facing each other above the polidal axis of the toroid. Hmm Maxwelll we have a problem, we have a new one eyed monster and he has 2 negative values above him, he cant be the same as the last 1 eyed monster who couldnt see negative, that are still some how above him, Do 360° of negative waves to the first 1 one eyed monster become positive to the second, and then does it matter if they add or multiple? They did not oginate from his axis and he view the wave peak. He still cant view negative from all angles.
-1×-1=? Im no mathematician but an exponential wave peak makes it sound like them bad boys multiple. I will refer you to multi graphs already posted mapping the strength of the energy from a coil. That is why we find a Z pinch at the center of a toroid or a pole at the center of a coil. The polidal axis....vs the equatorial axis. (posted by someone who found it elsewhere) i did make graphics on this that you are welcome to go look at again. Everyone kept asking for maths and i told them specifically, there is no negative to a wave in 3 dimensional space and everything is a rotating wave in a 3 dimensional universe.
I could go further down this path into quantum mechanics, its long enough i know but i seen some other cool Tesla quotes that i want to add.
All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed — only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle.
Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.
I don’t care that they stole my idea … I care that they don’t have any of their own.
So astounding are the facts in this connection, that it would seem as though the Creator, himself had electrically designed this planet…
What one man calls God, another calls the laws of physics.
I perfere to believe in the good in people, its time to get rid of the one eyed monster, and bring back GOD.
Maybe it just means looking at things from more than 1 perspecfive in life and in physics. If this makes any sense to anyone then i look forward to your replies and i hope you will support the idea in anyway you can. It doesnt need to be money, sharing and debating it elsewhere is the backbone of what science is suppose to be about. If you cant do that, then can you at least give the character assassination a miss. They are accusations that couldnt be ignored and quite frankly any man that would not stand up for himself after being called a bot and a liar is to weak to even be an inventor. They wouldnt survive the failures and i can tell you that solo sailing teaches you a lot about not giving up.
If you dont understand and want to, all i can suggest is going back and looking at all the graphic starting with the helical wave coordinates; understand the magnet and the electromagnet; how the exponential wave peak is induced into the conductor as a wave though the windings at 90° and figure out how Maxwell used the frame of reference for the moveable observers. The larger the angle of the trajectory, the greater the resistance. To achieve superconductivity the atomic structure must allow for the 1.1° trajectory. I cant make it any simplier im afraid so i hope you get it eventually because a double helical toroid creates superconductivity and the z pinch is the exponential wave peak of that energy, it naturally forms with a quadrupole. You dont need to believe me because im going to power the future with it and you will see it. It will be more fun and a lot faster if i get help. You could use it as an oppertunity to see if you're goverment really give a shit about the climate.
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I've spent some time, reading (or skimming some bits) the 11 page thread, here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3694697-can-mhd-create-everything-fusion-cant
It seems to have improved my understanding, as to what is going on here. Basically, the OP seems to have strong ideas, with alternative (non-mainstream) Physics/Science theories on various stuff. Unfortunately, the OP also seems to not be especially good at communicating these theories. They (OP) tend to create these huge walls of text (word salads), various diagrams/pictures, and sometimes reference links, which don't make a lot of sense, to people with mainstream scientific knowledge. The reference(s) also, usually/sometimes do not particularly support the OPs claims, very well, either.
On the one hand, I appreciate people thinking outside the box, and challenging various scientific theories, with various alternatives. Without which, over the centuries, we would be dealing with Earth/Wind/Fire and a flat Earth in 2022, etc.
What seems to be especially problematic, is that the OP (e.g. in the linked to thread, above), usually doesn't answer questions. Those questions, would help people understand the claimed theories better, and allow a more realistic discussion to take place.
TL;DR
The OP's alternative science views, on the one hand, could be useful, at least for getting scientific discussions to take place (but this isn't really the right forum for it). But their relative inability to clearly explain what the heck these theories are, their apparent inability to accept/answer questions, around it, and their (possibly on purpose, I'm NOT sure), being unclear on what they are really trying to claim.
E.g. They seem to fail (here at least) to explain that, they think the sun is NOT powered by fusion, that the Moon doesn't create the Earths tides, that free energy machines (perpetual motion machines), are perfectly possible, and power the sun. If I have correctly understood, the various sources I used, so I could be mistaken, on what they really think.
Some claim they are disappointed by the OP's lack of even rudimentary science skills/knowledge, and inability or refusal to present mathematical and/or other more down to earth scientific information, about their claims.
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It so easy in person. This is really difficult, i figured it would be easier but the people that it triggers have strong beliefs on the mainstream and therefore fight to defend it rather than enquire. I stayed clear of question that make things more complicated such as laws of physics like theromdynamics. Because these laws are true and work, right up until there is no resistance. V=IR kinda gives a big red flag in the math.just because it produce no voltage doesnt mean there is no power in the rotating current.
Of to bed, cheers for reading the other forum. It was difficult there to and they shut it down and most dont even allow it
The MHD paper was the prove i needed, it came out to late. It was a test run to see what questions would be asked. You cant make answers involving differential equations in a few minutes. I figured out the suns magnetic change during the solar cycle from that discussion so i considered it a massive win.
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I stayed clear of question that make things more complicated such as laws of physics like theromdynamics. Because these laws are true and work, right up until there is no resistance. V=IR kinda gives a big red flag in the math.just because it produce no voltage doesnt mean there is no power in the rotating current.
You toss off inanities like that, revealing your complete lack of the most basic understanding of high-school level physics and then expect...what? Plenty of intelligent people have thought about thermodynamics and superconductivity before you arrived to point out what you must assume are glaring flaws in 'mainstream' science. But instead of you bopping around and not answering any questions ever, how about you stop right there for a moment and explain what you think the problem is with the laws of thermodynamics regarding circulating currents in a superconductor? How do they stop working?
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I stayed clear of question that make things more complicated such as laws of physics like theromdynamics. Because these laws are true and work, right up until there is no resistance. V=IR kinda gives a big red flag in the math.just because it produce no voltage doesnt mean there is no power in the rotating current.
You toss off inanities like that, revealing your complete lack of the most basic understanding of high-school level physics and then expect...what? Plenty of intelligent people have thought about thermodynamics and superconductivity before you arrived to point out what you must assume are glaring flaws in 'mainstream' science. But instead of you bopping around and not answering any questions ever, how about you stop right there for a moment and explain what you think the problem is with the laws of thermodynamics regarding circulating currents in a superconductor? How do they stop working?
If we try and use the electrical laws derived from Maxwell's equations to calculate the energy or power of an electromagnetic waves around a toroid (the electric field and magnetic field). We know there is current because its rotating charge and a magnetic field is being produced. So we can work out the current with our invisible clamp meter and we know the resistance of a superconductor. We dont gnerate electricity energy with superconductors but a plasma superconductor does generate energy. Lets say we measured 1000A around a toros that has a resistance of zero. Mathimatically it cant generated "voltage" which is a measure of amplitude above the axis. Since anything multiplied by zero is zero. The same goes for all other resistance calculations. The magnetic field is produced by current and therefore power or energy cannot be zero, but it is mathimatically, this can be confirmed by calculating the combined wave value of a 3 phase system to the star point. All waves equal zero, but they dont and they also have a rotation value aka the right hand rule. This is because the wave cancelling effect of Maxwell's equations using a 2D framework is only true to its own central axis in 2 dimensions. Any second axis like the poloidal axis of an electromagnetic coil measures an exponential wave peak, we called the pole of the coil, or polidal axis of the coil (north/south), which is actually a Z- pinch to all waves. South being the force of the wave trough and north the force of the wave peak. This force produced by energy on the axis does not equal zero.
The power of the plasma reactor is determined by density of charge, as is gravity in a star or planet. Density and mass are almost identical, thats why the models almost worked, until it reached superconductivity plasma and they required dark matter.
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I've spent some time, reading (or skimming some bits) the 11 page thread, here:
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/forum/the-proving-grounds/against-the-mainstream/3694697-can-mhd-create-everything-fusion-cant
It seems to have improved my understanding, as to what is going on here. Basically, the OP seems to have strong ideas, with alternative (non-mainstream) Physics/Science theories on various stuff. Unfortunately, the OP also seems to not be especially good at communicating these theories. They (OP) tend to create these huge walls of text (word salads), various diagrams/pictures, and sometimes reference links, which don't make a lot of sense, to people with mainstream scientific knowledge. The reference(s) also, usually/sometimes do not particularly support the OPs claims, very well, either.
On the one hand, I appreciate people thinking outside the box, and challenging various scientific theories, with various alternatives. Without which, over the centuries, we would be dealing with Earth/Wind/Fire and a flat Earth in 2022, etc.
What seems to be especially problematic, is that the OP (e.g. in the linked to thread, above), usually doesn't answer questions. Those questions, would help people understand the claimed theories better, and allow a more realistic discussion to take place.
TL;DR
The OP's alternative science views, on the one hand, could be useful, at least for getting scientific discussions to take place (but this isn't really the right forum for it). But their relative inability to clearly explain what the heck these theories are, their apparent inability to accept/answer questions, around it, and their (possibly on purpose, I'm NOT sure), being unclear on what they are really trying to claim.
E.g. They seem to fail (here at least) to explain that, they think the sun is NOT powered by fusion, that the Moon doesn't create the Earths tides, that free energy machines (perpetual motion machines), are perfectly possible, and power the sun. If I have correctly understood, the various sources I used, so I could be mistaken, on what they really think.
Some claim they are disappointed by the OP's lack of even rudimentary science skills/knowledge, and inability or refusal to present mathematical and/or other more down to earth scientific information, about their claims.
I have tried to take the original poster seriously but he appears to be ignorant of mainstream physics/science theories, which harms his credibility. He lost me when I asked him if he was familiar with the traveling wave tube amplifier and he responded with no, but here's a picture of the atmospheric circulation.
I disagree about this not being the right forum. I've found this place to be ideal for discussing scientific theories and being an engineering forum, it's more practical, rather than purely theoretical.
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I have tried to take the original poster seriously but he appears to be ignorant of mainstream physics/science theories, which harms his credibility. He lost me when I asked him if he was familiar with the traveling wave tube amplifier and he responded with no, but here's a picture of the atmospheric circulation.
I disagree about this not being the right forum. I've found this place to be ideal for discussing scientific theories and being an engineering forum, it's more practical, rather than purely theoretical.
So do i, i think someone will get it because some havent given up yet.
The atmosphereic circulation has ions in it that generate electric and magnetic fields. We need to know the value of more than 1 wave at a time. Thats way loops and nodes form, waves only cancel out in 3 dimensions to their own axis. What happens between the hadley and ferrel cell induces a second wave called a low or high pressure system @90°. That process isnt in the models and is considered coriolis effect. That matters and the graphic is really easy to see if you study it.
Consider each "travelling wave tube" of charged ions as an electrical coil. Its just a big plasma transformer inducing secondary currents between waves.
I wasnt ignoring questions, im trying to follow the learning process it was for me. In person i can bounce of someone's knowledge of the natural world. This is much harder to do with multiple people because some go to fast and jump straight to the end. Like differential equations. How can you explain the sinusoidal nature of the math without understanding it is a 2D repersentation of a 3D helical wave first.
It all falls into place eventually when you realise im not saying the other theories are wrong. Im unifying their terminology inside a different mathimatical framework that removes the negative from the equation for 3 dimensional helical waves
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The simpliest way to put it is this
Tha amplitude of the wave around a toroid in a plasma transformer is gravity. Voltage is is a measure of gravity in the plasma universe. To the center point the wave always attracts, but not to every observer in every orientation and therfore not always to each other.
This is why coulomb's repels and attracts depending on direction of the waves to each other.
Any observer with an outside perspective views the positive and negative of both sides of the toroid and they apear to cancel out but the effects dont and are termed gravity. We measure the wave as the magnetic field which is alway perpendicular to the surface pulling the plasma in our bodies to it. Thats why water falls and rotates, while getting smaller as it accelerates. The density is increasing because of gravity and thus is gravity, the control of densty. A measurement of Mass within a certain Volume all controlled by light electricity and magnetism, each a 3 dimensional wave in different mediums, as Tesla said..
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I have tried to take the original poster seriously but he appears to be ignorant of mainstream physics/science theories, which harms his credibility. He lost me when I asked him if he was familiar with the traveling wave tube amplifier and he responded with no, but here's a picture of the atmospheric circulation.
I disagree about this not being the right forum. I've found this place to be ideal for discussing scientific theories and being an engineering forum, it's more practical, rather than purely theoretical.
This forum, does seem to get the odd scientific thread (such as Chemistry), from time to time, and I agree. Some apparently knowledgeable folks, often come in and give nice answers. But there are strongly scientifically oriented forums, which I would have thought, are better places, as a higher percentage of the forum people, are Physics experts.
But you are right (I don't disagree), that this forum, seems to cope with a bewilderingly wide range of subjects (Electronics, Computing, Engineering, Science, etc).
It is unfortunate that as you say, there is an apparent issue as regards "ignorant of mainstream physics/science theories". But that issue, doesn't necessarily mean that a new theory/idea/invention/concept they come up with. Is (for that reason alone), wrong and/or should be ignored and/or shouldn't be discussed etc. But it does create significant doubts, as to the validity/viability/robustness of any such theories.
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Almost all the time, the fundamental laws, don't change. But just extremely rarely, they do. E.g. Einstein's law of relativity, and fundamental changes as things approach the speed of light. The speed of light being a thing, and fundamental limit, etc. Which in the past, was a 'new' theory, which became widely accepted, in time. I.e. it was against, what is commonly called Newton's classical Physics, or similar.
In electronics, Ohms law, gets into difficulties with non-Ohmic devices, such as diodes and filament lamps. I.e. Ohms law is fine, as long as you don't try and measure the resistance of a (non-Ohmic device, such as a) diode or lamp, for use under all conditions.
I think the "ignorant of mainstream physics/science theories" issue you mentioned. Is a big part of why, significant communication difficulties, have arisen in this thread. Even for a wildly new, controversial theory. It should still predominantly or fully obey the basic accepted laws of Physics, except where it is changing the boundaries of it. Such as discovering non-Ohmic resistances, for the first time.
The OPs attempts at dodging such issues/questions, I think only made it worse, not better.
EDIT: Shortened a bit.
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The maximum speed of light is super conductivity of the wave. Resistance in a coil of wire is built up in a motor from 1 wave running into the back of another or itself which ever way you look at it, increasing the amplitude of the voltage. MK14 your not far from understanding. Nothing worth doing is every easy. Trust me this is worth putting the effort in to it. Communication skills are a skill set i havent mastered as well as other because of how i think. I wish i was a Jordan Peterson with articulation of language but im not. But we electrical folk understand how to measure energy under a wave (move that saying to energy around the wave and you understand 3 dimensional motion) and you nailed the think right there.
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Communication skills are a skill set i havent mastered as well as other because of how i think. I wish i was a Jordan Peterson with articulation of language but im not.
That is an important skill, in many areas/walks of life. But not everyone is good at it. Some tasks, such as writing software which is only ever worked on by the author, and other things. Are not too badly off, if the person doesn't have the best communication skills.
I suspect, that in many cases, even if the person involved is convinced, it can't be improved. Communication skills can be improved.
In some cases, unfortunately/sadly, it can be very difficult, or somewhat not possible, to understand the thing in question.
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Communication skills are a skill set i havent mastered as well as other because of how i think. I wish i was a Jordan Peterson with articulation of language but im not.
That is an important skill, in many areas/walks of life. But not everyone is good at it. Some tasks, such as writing software which is only ever worked on by the author, and other things. Are not too badly off, if the person doesn't have the best communication skills.
I suspect, that in many cases, even if the person involved is convinced, it can't be improved. Communication skills can be improved.
In some cases, unfortunately/sadly, it can be very difficult, or somewhat not possible, to understand the thing in question.
Remember when Einstein released SR and it was said that only 1 man understood it. The domino effect of that 1 man was massive. We are not disproving, we are standing on the shoulders of giants and understanding deeper what they were looking at. They used terms to replace observers such as north and south or positive or negative. Einstein just missed Maxwell's mistake, because of Newtons mistake and them men changed our world so we can hardly say it was an obvious mistake given their lack of knowledge of the plasma and electrical laws of motion that we know now.
If you start to view the helical wave as a wave function like an atom of hydrogen with lobes and change the colours between any 2 observers you start to see how they change inside the sun as the solar cycle field change.
A laser dot is the exponential wave energy peak of the of light.
Electricity is the exponential energy wave peak of the Poloidal axis of Magnetism
Magnetic poles are the exponential energy peak of a uniform rotational helical wave inside the magnet
Gravity is the exponential energy peak of the negative wave of motion to the central axis
Electrons in the atom are the polidal axis energy creating loops and nodes as the wave function lopes back over in the quadrope axis to meet the equatorial wave. Creating little peaks of "negative" energy to the motion of the proton or neutron.
The neutron is the proton spinning the opposite way and cancelling out the proton wave to the same observer. To the opposite observer the proton becomes the neutron. And the Electrons are still a negative wave tough of the motion of both.
I didnt want to go into quantum mechanics until the wave functions for different observers are understood, and how the different terms change value to 2 opposite observers but maybe you have to. Let me know. Im learning how to explain it as well, and when the right questions start because your understanding is growing it becomes a snowball effect.
It chases ppl away when you say the Electron is an energy wave peak for electricity and a trough for quantum mechanics, but that is what switch its value to a negative has done to our perspective of the wave due to it being found before the neutron in electricty. Because basically you have to agree that the electron and proton as a particle doesnt exist and is a wave. Which trust me for a glorified sparky is tough to explain with out sounding crazy and maintain credibility. For the invention he has designed to harness the Plasma exponential wave peak.
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It like explaining left can also be right to a child and then say up can be down for some people but not for others. And thats would be very tough to explain to a 5 year year old.
Please Note i know this is much more complicated than that, im not saying anyone is a 5 year old. Its an anology to hope it makes sense when looking at wave functions from multiple perspectives at the same time. Just like the clockface.
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exponential energy peak of the negative wave of motion to the central axis
stop smoking that stuff and rather start selling it, you'd be freaking rich in no time :-DD
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Remember when Einstein released SR and it was said that only 1 man understood it. The domino effect of that 1 man was massive. We are not disproving, we are standing on the shoulders of giants and understanding deeper what they were looking at. They used terms to replace observers such as north and south or positive or negative. Einstein just missed Maxwell's mistake, because of Newtons mistake and them men changed our world so we can hardly say it was an obvious mistake given their lack of knowledge of the plasma and electrical laws of motion that we know now.
When one hears about Einstein's great work. You have to be rather careful. What you are often NOT being told or seeing, is the countless other theories that Einstein and thousands or even millions of others, created in their minds, and sometimes on paper. Which after consideration by the author(s), other scientists or people, various reviews and publishing options, and so on. Possibly even moving on to the experimentation stage and/or comparison with measurable/observable things, such as stars in our galaxy.
So, although a few (very few really), of those upcoming, gems of new ideas/theories/inventions occurred, over the last hundreds or even thousands or more years. The vast bulk of them (thousands, millions, maybe even billions of them), failed because of one or more faults/mistakes/misunderstandings in their original ideas.
I.e. For every successful idea/theory/invention/patent, there have probably been hundreds, thousands or even considerably more things which failed to work out, and so have generally been forgotten over the years, and disappeared from our collective (world wide) knowledge base.
Take rubber as an example (I'm saying this from memory, so may be mixed up about it). It took someone/people, hundreds of different experiments, to find a formulation of rubber, that actually worked, to make a (relatively) long lasting material, which didn't horribly deteriorate, after only a few weeks.
Ironically, none of those hundreds or thousands of experimental chemical mixes actually worked, but one day there was an accident in the lab, and 'something' (Sulfur) was accidentally knocked onto the experimental rubber setup. Amazingly, the new rubber worked out very well, and lasted a long time.
Apparently, it took many hundreds of further experiments (finding the exact relative quantities, may also have been an issue), to find out what substance(s), had been accidentally mixed into the rubber experiment, to make it last so long.
Hence vulcanization (by adding Sulfur), was invented (strictly speaking (partly accidentally) discovered).
So one really needs to go through various ways in which, your new idea, might be wrong/mistaken or in difficulties. Discover those issue(s), now. Then suitably modify your idea(s), or abandon them, for better future ideas.
Analogy:
The original inventor of rubber vulcanization. Might have initially tried mixing it with honey, with terrible results. Almost everyone told them honey was no good, and the experiments showed that rubber + honey = a messy substance, which falls apart, almost immediately, smells funny after a few days, and attracts flies like crazy. It also makes your fingers sticky, after handling it.
Therefore, the right thing is to try another substance, or hundreds more, and move on. If the original inventor had obsessively stuck with honey, as the vulcanization method/substance. We probably would never have heard of the inventor of rubber, and they perhaps would have lived the rest of their lives, as a penniless person, unknown to others, who brings this smelly fly attracting, black gooey mess with them, where ever they go.
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Does your theories have any significant flaws. If so, can they be fixed, or do you need to move on, to a new, better idea/theory/possible-invention.
In other words, sadly. The vast bulk, perhaps 99.9% or even 99.99999999999999999999%, of new ideas, are no good, problematic, and not really worth pursing. If you want to be like Thomas Edison, then you have to move on and try/invent more stuff. Don't stick with the same thing all the time, if it has issues.
Thomas Edison and his helpers, had to try out thousands (very approximately, I'm not exactly sure), of different light bulb filament options. Until he/they found ones, which could light (without burning out), for a practically long enough time. Many tests worked, but the filament burnt out way too quickly, for practical use.
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If we try and use the electrical laws derived from Maxwell's equations to calculate the energy or power of an electromagnetic waves around a toroid (the electric field and magnetic field). We know there is current because its rotating charge and a magnetic field is being produced. So we can work out the current with our invisible clamp meter and we know the resistance of a superconductor. We dont gnerate electricity energy with superconductors but a plasma superconductor does generate energy. Lets say we measured 1000A around a toros that has a resistance of zero. Mathimatically it cant generated "voltage" which is a measure of amplitude above the axis. Since anything multiplied by zero is zero. The same goes for all other resistance calculations. The magnetic field is produced by current and therefore power or energy cannot be zero,
You are conflating power and energy and perhaps this error is central to your entire 'theory'. A simple superconductor model can posit a superconducting ring with a continuous current and a resultant magnetic field, and indeed if the superconductor has R=0 and I=something, V=something X 0 = 0. That just means that the power dissipated by the system is zero, not that the energy is zero. You can calculate the energy of the circulating elecrons with ordinary known laws of physics.
There's no energy creation involved, even in a 'plasma superconductor' assuming you have such a thing. The existence and maintenance of a steady magnetic field does not require any energy input. That's why we can have permanent magnets.
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We are not disproving, we are standing on the shoulders of giants and understanding deeper what they were looking at.
"We"? You aren't standing on anyone's shoulders because you apparently haven't bothered to acquire the education that would allow you to comprehend even the basics of what your giants have produced.
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You are conflating power and energy and perhaps this error is central to your entire 'theory'. A simple superconductor model can posit a superconducting ring with a continuous current and a resultant magnetic field, and indeed if the superconductor has R=0 and I=something, V=something X 0 = 0. That just means that the power dissipated by the system is zero, not that the energy is zero. You can calculate the energy of the circulating elecrons with ordinary known laws of physics.
There's no energy creation involved, even in a 'plasma superconductor' assuming you have such a thing. The existence and maintenance of a steady magnetic field does not require any energy input. That's why we can have permanent magnets.
You are correct, im conflating power an energy, since 1 is the measurement of the other. And in a 3 phase system, the total energy value propagated under the 2 electromagnetic waves is effectively a calculation of area under the wave.
You can read about that here, try to read it thinking that they are measureing energy propragating around the conductor. Half is in the magnetic field and the other half the magnetic field because they are perpendicular to each other measureing the helical wave.
As an electromagnetic field propagates it transports energy. Let $P$ be the power per unit area carried by an electromagnetic wave: i.e., $P$ is the energy transported per unit time across a unit cross-sectional area perpendicular to the direction in which the wave is traveling. Consider a plane electromagnetic wave propagating along the $z$-axis. The wave propagates a distance $c\,dt$ along the $z$-axis in a time interval $dt$. If we consider a cross-sectional area $A$ at right-angles to the $z$-axis, then in a time $dt$ the wave sweeps through a volume $dV$ of space, where $dV = A\,c\,d t$. The amount of energy filling this volume is
\begin{displaymath}
d W = w\,d V = \epsilon_0\,E^2\, A\,c\,d t.
\end{displaymath} (334)
It follows, from the definition of $P$, that the power per unit area carried by the wave is given by
\begin{displaymath}
P = \frac{d W}{A\,d t} = \frac{ \epsilon_0\,E^2\, A\,c\,d t}{A\,dt},
\end{displaymath} (335)
https://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/node119.html
Essential we measure energy as the area under the 2 perpendicular electric wnd magnetic fields. The star point if used to measure the energy of all 3 waves in a 3 phase electrical circuit must equal zero. But this is false. Because that axis is a z pinch and produces torque because of the second axis of rotation. This is why the term the right hand rule of magnetism is used. Because it was the only way to understand the force produced by the mathimatical zero energy value. Again like the toroids poloidal axis, the star point of the 3 phase electrical wave cant view the negative value. The toroid being a 360° wave in both planes. Rather than just 3 electric waves and 3 magnetic waves in the 3 phase system.
To correctly harness the power in the simple superconducting ring with a continuous current, the poloidal axis must be also made of superconducting material. Not doing so would be the equivalent of using air instead of iron in a transformer. This is why the plasma reactors poloidal energy level will be so high from the exponential wave peak inducing ridiculous levels of current into the superconducting z pinch. Once the plasma leaves the z pinch the resistance increase and the plasma slows and expands. If it hits plasma current travelling anti parallel then it must expand with explosive force. Aka anti gravity.
The creation of a steady magnetic field requires steady and uniform rotating motion of the wave function of the atom. The electric field produces the dipole, the magnetic field produces the quadrupoles. Or to put it correctly the poloidal rotation of the dipole produces the electric field and the roll around the equatorial axis of the toroid produces the magnetic field. The magnetic field is never static because the same observer views the roll change every 90° of rotation. Only the dipole remains static to a stationary observer and this change is not noticed by the wave merging on the poloidal axis on each face of the magnet, termed north and south poles. To say it takes no energy to rotate the atomic structure and maintain the uniform rotation of a permanent magnet is a lie. Go force 2 magnets together so the like poles are facing each other, the uniform rotation of energy does not slow down when the energy you added to the system is removed. Since the energy is produced by rotation and the 2 magnets are rotating oppositly even tho they a like pole. Because the direction they are facing has changed. You have to be carefully using terms that arent well defined. And the orgin of the terms is not known.
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You are correct, im conflating power an energy, since 1 is the measurement of the other. And in a 3 phase system, the total energy value propagated under the 2 electromagnetic waves is effectively a calculation of area under the wave.
Huh? Power and energy are not measurements 'of each other'. Their relationship is something else, which I challenge you to state correctly and cogently. How does any of that address the error in your statement about the "laws of thermodynamics" , or known physical laws in general, not applying to superconductors?
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Another example to add to rubber, is tar. It fell of the back of a horse and cart in Wales and they mixted it in with the gravel and found it to hold the gravel together nicely.
Yes the plasma reactor could need a lot of trail and error like most other inventions do. And this obviously costs man hours and materials that cost money. The question is, will it bare fruits faster than all the money that is put into fusion. I say that is a no brainer since the energy source is similar to that found in a permanent magnet. Endless uniform rotation around 2 axis. With an exponential wave peak on the central z pinch polodial axis. Producing a static dipole and a rotating quadrupole to any stationary observer.
Until earth stops rotating, no on can say the stationary observer does not view a change in both the electric field and magnetic field because each time the quadrupole changes between north and south for the stationary observer he must view a change in both fields. Since every 90° is a north and the next 90 is south inside both north or south dipole. This happens every 6 hours, and it effects the value of the dipole to the frame of reference.
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Another example to add to rubber, is tar. It fell of the back of a horse and cart in Wales and they mixted it in with the gravel and found it to hold the gravel together nicely.
You're just full of heartwarming apocryphal stories, aren't you! Perhaps when this episode is over you can pursue televangelism.
I say that is a no brainer since the energy source is similar to that found in a permanent magnet.
I have to say I pretty much agree with that statement....
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Another example to add to rubber, is tar. It fell of the back of a horse and cart in Wales and they mixted it in with the gravel and found it to hold the gravel together nicely.
Thanks, that is interesting and good to know. :)
The question is, will it bare fruits faster than all the money that is put into fusion. I say that is a no brainer since the energy source is similar to that found in a permanent magnet.
Well, I don't think permanent magnets, are considered a source of energy. Apart from perhaps a quick/tiny release, when first used as a generator or similar. E.g. A permanent magnet and suitable coil(s), can be used to make a torch/flashlight, which is charged up (capacitor inside as well), by shaking it vigorously, for a couple of minutes, roughly. It then can light up its reasonably bright LED, for a short time, such as a couple of minutes. After which, it gets dimmer and dimmer.
I don't think conventional/established physics, supports permanent magnets, being turned into free energy devices, is possible. I don't want to say it would be impossible, because maybe, in a so far undiscovered way, it is possible. But so far, there doesn't seem to be any indication that it would provide free energy, apart from the odd youtube video. Which is usually made by people trying to scam money out of others and/or is dishonest about the results (e.g. secret hidden batteries, they don't tell you about), and/or they are deeply mixed up and confused about how real physics works.
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To correctly harness the power in the simple superconducting ring with a continuous current, the poloidal axis must be also made of superconducting material. Not doing so would be the equivalent of using air instead of iron in a transformer. This is why the plasma reactors poloidal energy level will be so high from the exponential wave peak inducing ridiculous levels of current into the superconducting z pinch. Once the plasma leaves the z pinch the resistance increase and the plasma slows and expands. If it hits plasma current travelling anti parallel then it must expand with explosive force. Aka anti gravity.
Creating anti gravity seems worthy of a Nobel Prize all by itself.
Do you really think that you will be able to do that?
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Thinking about this whole thread, relating computer generated AI as a 'fake human postings', probably won't be long, before a TOTALLY FAKED HUMAN AI, could be fed this 'material' and derive a learned style.
Course here, that means mis-spelled words, at some high rate. My smartphone (Android) usually does some measure of correction / substitution, and I don't perceive any level of auto-spell in those pile upon pile of posts. But, an AI doing this COULD learn that, and, perhaps not quite be able to use subtle approach, like only mis-spelling rarely. But the OP posts here, just pile on the spelling errors. I guess, respect levels afforded to eevblog folks reading is like, zero priority to OP.
BUT, there might be some MAPPING techniques, maybe termed 'Metadata', which could uncover unexpected timing and patterns, in OP 's weave.
Like, a MAP, that would diagram these bizarre non-answers, certainly a set pattern in some of that, like:
Are we to believe, can you dis-prove, that spinning esocepharious rotation, as helix ?
No, you cannot. But, if you are that stupid, how come helix, are we to believe, that plus signs, created by 3D to 2D mapping....(on and on).
But my point is, a meta-data approach to these crazed posts, by OP, would look like this:
Are we to believe, that, in outer planets [SUBJECT SWITCH], and how would you ? [STRAY QUESTION] ?
Then, can you disprove that ferdals [NONSENSE WORD] would rotate [in-coherent] ?
See what I mean ? It would be a metadata screen that would flag these structures, especially when they certainly SEEM like nonsense. That, almost, could be an APP for a smartphone. That way, a reader could have an (impartial) guage, for some measure of credibility vs. having to plow through this, 'manually'.
For similar example, this APP / BOT could give a quantitative measure, of TECH terms 'longevity' inside the document (posts). If it says 'z-pinch' only once, that's gonna be suspect, but if that particular term is repeated, mildly, like 4 times throughout, then a credibility factor would be higher, like 1.83 vs 0. 008 which indicates the machine generated 'credibility' likelyhood.
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For similar example, this APP / BOT could give a quantitative measure, of TECH terms 'longevity' inside the document (posts). If it says 'z-pinch' only once, that's gonna be suspect, but if that particular term is repeated, mildly, like 4 times throughout, then a credibility factor would be higher, like 1.83 vs 0. 008 which indicates the machine generated 'credibility' likelyhood.
So you are going to invent the AI-augmented monkey w/ typewriter! :-+
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Well, I don't think permanent magnets, are considered a source of energy. Apart from perhaps a quick/tiny release, when first used as a generator or similar. E.g. A permanent magnet and suitable coil(s), can be used to make a torch/flashlight, which is charged up (capacitor inside as well), by shaking it vigorously, for a couple of minutes, roughly. It then can light up its reasonably bright LED, for a short time, such as a couple of minutes. After which, it gets dimmer and dimmer.
I don't think conventional/established physics, supports permanent magnets, being turned into free energy devices, is possible. I don't want to say it would be impossible, because maybe, in a so far undiscovered way, it is possible. But so far, there doesn't seem to be any indication that it would provide free energy, apart from the odd youtube video. Which is usually made by people trying to scam money out of others and/or is dishonest about the results (e.g. secret hidden batteries, they don't tell you about), and/or they are deeply mixed up and confused about how real physics works.
Permanent magnets are a source of energy, in the same way the electrostatic force is a source of energy.
If you want to utilise the static force you have to input energy to get motion. We do this by utilizing the z pinch effect of the wave on the poloidal axis. Either end of the magnet. A magnet is not a superconductor of another polidal wave such as electricity being induced into the magnet. Only an actual super conductor can do that. However the wave generated by its own atomic structure continues is if there is no resistance to it. This generates a static dipole and a rotating multipole. This can be seen by a simple motor made out of a wire and a AAA battery. If you change the pole but dont change the polarity of the current. 1 circuit spins slightly fast than the other. This is the interaction with the multipole on the polarity of the current.
The plasma reactor is not static. It is rotating. Although i say it similar to a magnet. This turns its not so static dipole into a generator, just like the Earth or the Sun becomes a self sustaining dyanmo, so will the plasma reactor.
Now we still have 1 more major consideration to think about with the plasma toroid. As was mention earlier.
A simple superconductor model can posit a superconducting ring with a continuous current and a resultant magnetic field, and indeed if the superconductor has R=0 and I=something, V=something X 0 = 0. That just means that the power dissipated by the system is zero, not that the energy is zero. You can calculate the energy of the circulating elecrons with ordinary known laws of physics.
I also thought this was correct, we could roughly calculate the electron current in a toroid with electrical laws and come out with some form of energy in the system. So i tried, so i used the values of the electric and magnetic field of the electron traveling in the opposite direction of the positive plasma. Let say; The electron has a positive value in the electric field @ the 12 oclock position. What does the positive plasma particle value at the same position? Negative? And here in lies the problem with having a Neutron spinning the opposite way to the Proton and then it is termed neutral. While having an electron that is negative that can also have a positive field or energy value. Then you have to consider that both these waves and energy values must meet on the polidal axis who location cant even see negative.
So how do we calculated the positive plasma current and the negative electron current on the Z-pinch of the toroid inside a Star or Plasma Reactor. We have to lose the electron as the opposite of the proton, the laws of the universe say there can only be 1 opposite for every perspective. The wave function of the hydrogen is the key to understanding an electron. Combined with the ferro fluid over a magnet. The electron is the quadrupole change converging on the polidal axis of the wave function. Like planet earth the polidal wave compresses into an exponential peak and can be considered to be 4 seperate waves looping back over to meet the wave on the equatorial axis. The creates loops and nodes of energy just like the ferro fluid over a magnet. The electron can be considered the peak point of the standing wave to the observer. In the wave function you can see the wave change orginate due to the roll around the toroidal axis of the hydrogen nucleus. This is the quadrupole. When the rotating component of each quadrupole and the static wave of each dipole meet back at the equator they form rotating standing waves of energy, they rotate in pair as they meet from either dipole. This process forms the electron shells. The magnetic waves of the sun from the same standing waves that rotate helping planets rotate and obviously the Earth has the moon as an electron.
My point here is the electron energy is much lower than the wave of the positive protron and neutron. Due to the inverse square law for waves travelling away from source. The plasma current in a superconducting toroid, plus the "electron" wave current all have to meet on the polidal axis.that a lot of energy and its all rotating so its not static.
To be honest it doesnt matter if you call it an electron, their is a wave travelling backward and plasma travelling forward, and they form an never ending loop of energy, that also rotates and compress plasma on the z pinch. The math for the energy is hard to know, but who really cares we know its more than fusion, because this powers the Earth and fusion doesnt.
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bdunham7 I'll have to go read about that loose monkey thing, thanks.
I'm thinking, assuming there is a large SET, of previously 'manually' screened documents, deemed as high probability of being valid. A 'valid' document might mention some term, like 'wire gauge', a certain number of times, let's say 5. That passed the 'smell test'. Then, exposing some AI system to that, then the AI system 'learns'...in this case that term would be expected to occur, like 3.41 times, in a bunch of 'valid' documents. Now that I'm considering this 'machine learning', the office staff could also 'feed' the new machine with documents flagged as 'highly suspect', of containing 'word salad', like, for instance, an occurrence of 'Z-pinch' (Sounds like Inspector Clueso),
where 'Z-pinch' only occurs once, in a 18 page document. In a way, my musings on AI require a fairly robust 'teaching' process, in that highly subjective judgement, of what's 'sounding' reasonable, or not reasonable.
Going a bit further, the AI system could also screen for 'functional' verification. Like, for example, a 'circit designer' AI BOT would know how to apply concepts like Vbe, on a transistor, when checking and gauging for likelyhood of credible text streams. And, like I said, an originator of 'word salad' BS could, cleverly, mis-spell at some deliberate, random looking rate. That's the 'Bad Breath' tactic seen in Terminator movie Robots disguise.
Sorry, I know I'm likely thinking way behind...like 1990's estimate of an AI setup.
But certainly, having an APP like that might be entertaining to observe in action, including, like this Non-linear case, including inserting various hostile, paranoid responses. "That dude got MAD", you might observe, ..."...and so probably isn't a BOT".
Sounds like an artificial intelligence world of treachery / deceit, with several computers hashing it out...while us 'Humans' watch, from sidelines.
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A permanent magnet stores energy in the same sense that a Duracell alkaline cell stores energy.
To magnetize the material at the magnet factory, electrical power is applied through an appropriate coil see section 10 of https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide (https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide)
To get (electrical) power out of a permanent-magnet generator, (mechanical) power is applied to the rotor shaft while the magnet stays magnetized.
Obtaining energy by demagnetizing the magnet is certainly possible, but rarely used for any practical purpose.
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Creating anti gravity seems worthy of a Nobel Prize all by itself.
Do you really think that you will be able to do that?
Creating anti gravity was done by the right brother, actually who ever invented the first curved surface to generate lift gets the credit for anti gravity.
Eric Laithwaite also created anti gravity with the maglev system.
Although i would say the Solar Cycle Magnetic Field change and its mechanism is worthy of a Nobel Prize. It made sense to me instantly when i looked at the field structure between solar min and max and i find it difficult to see how it can be refuted even with current understanding of superconducting magnetic field lines, and penning traps. Combined with the confirmation of the rotation speed of the equator in comparison to the polar region of the Sun as proof of the mechanism. This to me confirm the plasma reactors validly as an invention worthy of funding. Even if you see it as a gamble, the odds are higher than fusion already and the reward is even higher.
When the plasma reactor is built it will repels the earths atmosphere magnetic field if the correct dipole is facing Earth. Super conductors always match the strongest field they are in. It will depend on the strength of the field we are using to control the plasma and if we can match it to earths field. First reactor is getting bolted to the ground with away of measureing for sure. I hope Eric Laithwaite left us plenty info on how to stabilize the fields.
You can also use this as a power source of another technology. Something like the us navy patent on using microwaves to change the density around a craft to create lift. It is designed for space but maybe power restrictions limit its use close to home.
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Aerodynamic lift (as in the right spelling of Wright Brothers)
and magnetic force in the vertical direction (as in MagLev)
are not antigravity.
The net force on an object, per Newton, is the vector sum of all the forces acting upon it.
Gravity (always positive) is but one of the forces.
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A permanent magnet stores energy in the same sense that a Duracell alkaline cell stores energy.
To magnetize the material at the magnet factory, electrical power is applied through an appropriate coil see section 10 of https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide (https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide)
To get (electrical) power out of a permanent-magnet generator, (mechanical) power is applied to the rotor shaft while the magnet stays magnetized.
Obtaining energy by demagnetizing the magnet is certainly possible, but rarely used for any practical purpose.
So the static magnetic field of the Earth and Sun that is rotating must generated energy, correct?
If it generates energy then its the power source and fusion is the by product
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My point is made, just above, where OP's response features only ONE mention, of some specific feature term, that term NEVER revisited, or expanded upon again through the whole post.
Contrast that, with more usual narratives, where some term used, like 'heavier gauge wire' might be encountered a few times, during 'natural' unfolding of some document... If is a building high rise, for example, the terms 'floor' or 'stairs' might most naturally occur several times. Of course that could be adopted by your 'BOT', also, eventually. Sounds like a spy competing with spy, in ever more complex sets of deception.
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...oh, and notice, that smarty-BOT, seems to ignore certain questions, while virtually answering others in very rapid pace. Some instant, other answers never come. Could still, be a BOT we got on our hands. Go round and round.
Of course, a clever BOT could also show 'impatience' at random intervals, too, to show how un-bot it is.
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A permanent magnet stores energy in the same sense that a Duracell alkaline cell stores energy.
To magnetize the material at the magnet factory, electrical power is applied through an appropriate coil see section 10 of https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide (https://www.intemag.com/magnet-design-guide)
To get (electrical) power out of a permanent-magnet generator, (mechanical) power is applied to the rotor shaft while the magnet stays magnetized.
Obtaining energy by demagnetizing the magnet is certainly possible, but rarely used for any practical purpose.
So the static magnetic field of the Earth and Sun that is rotating must generated energy, correct?
If it generates energy then its the power source and fusion is the by product
Of course not.
The interaction of the magnetic field of a rotating object with the rest of the universe removes energy from the rotating body.
Just like an eddy-current brake in a simple electromechanical system.
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Permanent magnets are a source of energy, in the same way the electrostatic force is a source of energy.
Are you saying, that if a permanent magnet is taken, and installed into the appropriate machine/contraption/device, it can supply significant/huge amounts of power, for a virtually unlimited amount of time and power output. Such as powering lamps, motors, radios, TVs, computers, heaters, air-conditioners, cars etc ?
If so, can you supply me with any evidence, that, such a system or systems, already exist, in the way of actual experiment(s) and/or device(s), which have been demonstrated.
Attempting to explain it to me, with a large text explanation, does not really work for me. I'd need to see it from an official source and/or real life, testable/repeatable experiments.
N.B. There maybe various youtube videos, demonstrating things like that. But be warned, I (and others here), will immediately say, if we think it is a scam, or has a secretly hidden battery or mains connection, etc.
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Aerodynamic lift (as in the right spelling of Wright Brothers)
and magnetic force in the vertical direction (as in MagLev)
are not antigravity.
The net force on an object, per Newton, is the vector sum of all the forces acting upon it.
Gravity (always positive) is but one of the forces.
Lift is ion wave defraction in the medium. Which is measured and modelled by the differential equations of Coulomb's law. This is Einstein unified theory. Its a plasma universe, it all comes down to how 360° of helical wave induce current at 90° to the second axis. Once you understand the helical wave of the atomic structure of the magnet and the pole created as the wave meets on both faces and shots outward and around. The field lines repersent the polidal axis of rotation of the wave and the arrows repersents the flight direction of the wave, not the propagation direction. Maxwell proved magnetic fields propagate, that means it must be a wave because that the only way magnetic field can. But it does so in both directions. Each pole can then be consider 2 wave when it meets back at the equator, forming loops and nodes with the equatorial wave. This feature is important when considering solar system orbitals. Again included in a graphic. But you have to study closely to see it.
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What is the English translation of "defraction"?
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What is the English translation of "defraction"?
Decimal-ize?
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Permanent magnets are a source of energy, in the same way the electrostatic force is a source of energy.
Are you saying, that if a permanent magnet is taken, and installed into the appropriate machine/contraption/device, it can supply significant/huge amounts of power, for a virtually unlimited amount of time and power output. Such as powering lamps, motors, radios, TVs, computers, heaters, air-conditioners, cars etc ?
If so, can you supply me with any evidence, that, such a system or systems, already exist, in the way of actual experiment(s) and/or device(s), which have been demonstrated.
Attempting to explain it to me, with a large text explanation, does not really work for me. I'd need to see it from an official source and/or real life, testable/repeatable experiments.
N.B. There maybe various youtube videos, demonstrating things like that. But be warned, I (and others here), will immediately say, if we think it is a scam, or has a secretly hidden battery or mains connection, etc.
No the poloidal axis of a magnet is not that strong. Not like superconductivity. The medium around the magnet is not that strongly ionised either. A superconductor levitating above a magnet does so because the wave of the magnet is induced in to the superconductor. The wave can only travel as fast as the magnets atomic wave. This matches the quadrupoles perfectly but can be quite slow. If resistance to the wave is added as the super conductor heats up the wave slows and torque is applied to the phase alignment of the quadrupole shifting. Since they are rotating inside the static dipole.
The difference for the plasma toroid in side a star or planet is that this effect of superconductivity self builds inside a rotating double helical toroid. Due to the 1.1° trajectory or close to it. The "electron" wave travelling backward can only travel as fast as the wave of plasma motion that created it. This is how the self sustaining dynamo is formed. Dont forget the energy multiple on the poloidal z pinch. And it isnt induce on to air or iron. Its inducing on a medium that can take any form it tells it too. Ie superconductivity. The plasma jets of a black hole or neutron star.
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What is the English translation of "defraction"?
Like a light wave going tho a prism, the ions over the curved surface, defract and refract in at least 1 plain. You can call it the electric field or the magnetic field. As the wave curves around the surface the shape of the 2 opposite wave lopes changes. This changes the energy value in that plain between the 2 opposite lopes causeing lift or drag. And sometime turbulent flow like Tesla valve. He understood non linear interactions.
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I just went to a children's play based on Lewis Carroll.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”
Humpty Dumpty did not survive the play.
The word for which you grope is "diffraction", which is not the antonym of "refraction".
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No the poloidal axis of a magnet is not that strong. Not like superconductivity. The medium around the magnet is not that strongly ionised either. A superconductor levitating above a magnet does so because the wave of the magnet is induced in to the superconductor. The wave can only travel as fast as the magnets atomic wave. This matches the quadrupoles perfectly but can be quite slow. If resistance to the wave is added as the super conductor heats up the wave slows and torque is applied to the phase alignment of the quadrupole shifting. Since they are rotating inside the static dipole.
The difference for the plasma toroid in side a star or planet is that this effect of superconductivity self builds inside a rotating double helical toroid. Due to the 1.1° trajectory or close to it. The "electron" wave travelling backward can only travel as fast as the wave of plasma motion that created it. This is how the self sustaining dynamo is formed. Dont forget the energy multiple on the poloidal z pinch. And it isnt induce on to air or iron. Its inducing on a medium that can take any form it tells it too. Ie superconductivity. The plasma jets of a black hole or neutron star.
Throwing what you just said, back at you (it doesn't make much sense to me)....
What exactly (in summary of the effects it causes/creates), do you mean.
Do you mean the object(s)/item(s), such as a star, will heat themselves up, because of this effect, WITHOUT needing any other power source, such as matter to consume with conventional fusion theories.
Or that it will create velocity or spin, again, without needing any conventionally accepted power sources.
Alternatively, do you mean something else, entirely ?
TL;DR
From the quote above, what exactly (ideally explained in a few words or short sentence) will it do/achieve ?
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See what I mean ?
Trying the OP mentions, once, 'DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS'. ETC ETC each of various 'SALAD' words.
NORMALLY, virtually anybody writing, sane, will venture the same word, twice or more, not a single, isolated TECH salad WORD, mentioned once.
Heck, a person could, to supplement the analysis, also count the number of TECH terms given the single mention treatment.
The text in these responses, by analogy, would be a Dance party, where each partner ONLY dances with another partner ONCE, but keeps dancing each round all night, circulating.
NOW,...I'm starting to believe:
'I'm, maybe...A BOT, myself...'
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What is the English translation of "defraction"?
Like a light wave going tho a prism, the ions over the curved surface, defract and refract in at least 1 plain. You can call it the electric field or the magnetic field. As the wave curves around the surface the shape of the 2 opposite wave lopes changes. This changes the energy value in that plain between the 2 opposite lopes causeing lift or drag. And sometime turbulent flow like Tesla valve. He understood non linear interactions.
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And sometime turbulent flow like Tesla valve. He understood non linear interactions.
I have to hand it to you for teaching me something--this is the second time you've used the term "Tesla valve" so I looked it up and there it is! A real thing! But I don't think they've been tried with plasma....or quarks.
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Is the OP using one of those online, 'fiction' generating webpages, or something ?
They still don't seem to be able to answer, the most basic question(s), because when I finally get to that point, they just disappear, change the subject, or concentrate on answering other people in the thread.
It might be a coincidence, but perhaps they are trying to pull the wool over my eyes ?
Sorry OP, but I'm not getting good vibes back from your latest reply. It seems more mumbo jumbo, than even vaguely serious science stuff.
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Yeah, mk14, I've been speculating on what you just said. But some replies seem custom enough, such as grabbing initials out of my full user name.
Certainly some of OP replies are fast, PLUS I'm noticing OP gets in, posting when I didn't see 'em on the list of who's on reading thread at any particular time...I was almost going to 'ASK' him, if OP is popping over, checking some other blog ?
Seems to pop in and out, of his thread rapidly, in, then out. Then posts. Does kind of align with time local, in NZ (New Zealand)...more likely to be off the site 12 to 5 am NZ time. (?)
Certain simple questions get ignored, while any opportunity, to launch into crap-laden shit, he jumps in fast. Could, maybe be a BOT, ignoring questions it cannot parse to itself.
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Yeah, mk14, I've been speculating on what you just said. But some replies seem custom enough, such as grabbing initials out of my full user name.
Certainly some of OP replies are fast, PLUS I'm noticing OP gets in, posting when I didn't see 'em on the list of who's on reading thread at any particular time...I was almost going to 'ASK' him, if OP is popping over, checking some other blog ?
Seems to pop in and out, of his thread rapidly, in, then out. Then posts. Does kind of align with time local, in NZ (New Zealand)...more likely to be off the site 12 to 5 am NZ time. (?)
Certain simple questions get ignored, while any opportunity, to launch into crap-laden shit, he jumps in fast. Could, maybe be a BOT, ignoring questions it cannot parse to itself.
Actually, I'm trying to google what they said, and some of their replies draw a blank. I.e. are probably complete nonsense.
Examples follow:
magnets atomic wave
Google finds no such term, hmm?
No results found for "magnets atomic wave".
Now it starts to get interesting...
Due to the 1.1° trajectory or close to it.
Because google either doesn't find it, or it DOES find it. But it is the brownian motion thing. What the heck does that have to do, with the Physics stuff. So, it does start to look like some kind of scientific mumbo jumbo generator.
Now I managed to find a 'paper', but the paper would seem to be a spoof physics paper.
Here:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.00992.pdf
So, some of their (OP) post(s), may have come from that paper, and similar sources.
So, that would imply, trolling, SCAMs, fooling around or something, I guess, maybe ?
Something funny going on, perhaps ?
A windup by someone, maybe ?
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Something funny going on, perhaps ?
A windup by someone, maybe ?
The patent application is real.
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Something funny going on, perhaps ?
A windup by someone, maybe ?
The patent application is real.
Good point, thanks.
I don't know who is more confused, me or the OP's posts, in general.
I hope this isn't some kind of scam then.
Or could someone really lack so much actual knowledge about science/physics and really believe in something, with extremely limited knowledge of things, like they are claiming ?
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Makes me think one word:. Vandalism
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Makes me think one word:. Vandalism
I'm not sure quite what you mean, in the context of this already confusing thread, at least for me.
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Actually, I'm trying to google what they said, and some of their replies draw a blank. I.e. are probably complete nonsense.
Examples follow:
magnets atomic wave
Google finds no such term, hmm?
No results found for "magnets atomic wave".
Now it starts to get interesting...
Due to the 1.1° trajectory or close to it.
Because google either doesn't find it, or it DOES find it. But it is the brownian motion thing. What the heck does that have to do, with the Physics stuff. So, it does start to look like some kind of scientific mumbo jumbo generator.
Now I managed to find a 'paper', but the paper would seem to be a spoof physics paper.
Here:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.00992.pdf
So, some of their (OP) post(s), may have come from that paper, and similar sources.
So, that would imply, trolling, SCAMs, fooling around or something, I guess, maybe ?
Something funny going on, perhaps ?
A windup by someone, maybe ?
Unfortunately being a human being, i have to sleep. What ever bots you have had here before probably didnt have that issue. My parents leave today so i will be spending time with them.
A magnet is a 3 dimensional object. The standard understanding is that perpendicular to the poloidal axis every atom rotates in the same direction. This is true and absolutely correct. But its a 2D understanding.
When you look along the z axis; there must be a loctional difference between each atom. Ie, if 1 atom is viewed as a wave peak to the observer the next 1 along the z axis is lets say for easy counting 10° behind the first in its rotation. If you keep going along the Z axis. After 36 atoms we find another wave peak to the observer. This is the helical wave period. For a superconductor it must be 1.1° aka the magic angle.
Why that matters in a toroid is because of the double helical wave. Ie 2 seperate waves combined into the same toroid. Such as a star. Again Anthony Peratt work shows how this happpens. But not in a toroid.
Some simple maths show the trajectory of the double helix's must be 1.0° in order to form the quadrupoles.
Since the current or electrical wave is travelling backward to the plasma around the toroid we find that the procession of the plasma makes the trajectory 1.1°
If we uses the Earth's rotation around the sun. A 1° trajectory would mean we have 360 days in a year, but a 1.1° trajectory is formed because the Suns magnetosphere which we are inside and is also rotating. This means earth has to go a little further to be at the same location according to the galaxtic observer. This is why Einstein needed time dilation to account for the curved trajectory of every rotating object he was measuring, possible not realizing that there is always a 2nd axis of rotation that must always be considered. Since time is a measurement value along the z axis, which is really just a distance measurement usual measured in wavelength or nanometers.
Ive never seeen that paper, and dont have time to read it today.
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I just went to a children's play based on Lewis Carroll.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”
Humpty Dumpty did not survive the play.
The word for which you grope is "diffraction", which is not the antonym of "refraction".
I was extermely tried last night, after spending about 5 or 6 hours with my last reply to you the previuos night. It was i tough one to explain without making mistakes.
Diffraction absolutely is the opposite of refraction. If a helical wave is curving around a second axis, then the plain that is changing must change the shape of the wave functions either side of the axis. Lets say its the magnetic plain. The outside sine wave, lets call it positive/north must shorten its amplitude and increase the distance between the points it appears to cross the z axis to your observerational perspective in 2D. The opposite is true for the inside edge. The compression of the wave along the z axis must increase the amplitude of the wave. Since the ion has other ions beside it travelling parallel, and the expanded north or positive component of the magnetic wave is next to the south or negative component of the opposite wave, which has a larger amplitude and is compressed. Ie has more energy density under the wave peak. As stated prior this is what differential equations are measuring. The difference between the energy as multiple waves curves around an object or axis. This causes lift or drag and is why we can model foils and fluid dynamics without understanding the actual mechanism that is causing it. This is why all current theorys for creating lift around a foil can be disproven. At least according to NASA.
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I have to hand it to you for teaching me something--this is the second time you've used the term "Tesla valve" so I looked it up and there it is! A real thing! But I don't think they've been tried with plasma....or quarks.
Water is plasma, its a polar molecule that can be controlled and modelled by MHD. Plasma is also controlled and modelled by MHD. The tesla valve is using non linear MHD to change the density of the fluid. Using turbulent flow created by the 2 opposing currents to increase the pressure and reduce the current flowing along the fixed volume of his Tesla valve.
Each non linear interaction is like adding a resistor into a an electrical circuit. The bast way to understand electricity is by using water current to replace electrical current. Once upon a time we planned to make computers using this anolog system. Eric Laithwaite does a great presentation on this
https://youtu.be/0tJfqMYHaQw
Its called the circle of magnetism, magnetism is spherical.
The reason water can model electricity is because plasma and electricity follow the same laws. MHD stands for magneto hydro dynamics. You think im in the wrong forum. Trust me when i say its has been electrical engineers that have had the best understanding of the universe thus far. Tesla and Laithwaite were the closest to using terms that are correct. Watch ever video laithwaite did. They are great. I couldnt use the term magnetic river because that implies a 2 dimensional direction to the wave. I have to use magnetic wave function. Because quantum mechanics has it modelled already and they choice the name, not me. Im just applying it to the 3 dimensional waves that result from combining multiply quantum wave functions. Such as those in a permanent magnet. Each atom has a wave function plus the whole magnet has a wave function.
Just like each proton has a wave function and each atom and each moelcule and so on.... until you get to the black hole. Waves on top of waves. The unified wave theory.
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A magnet is a 3 dimensional object. The standard understanding is that perpendicular to the poloidal axis every atom rotates in the same direction. This is true and absolutely correct. But its a 2D understanding.
When you look along the z axis; there must be a loctional difference between each atom. Ie, if 1 atom is viewed as a wave peak to the observer the next 1 along the z axis is lets say for easy counting 10° behind the first in its rotation. If you keep going along the Z axis. After 36 atoms we find another wave peak to the observer. This is the helical wave period. For a superconductor it must be 1.1° aka the magic angle.
Why that matters in a toroid is because of the double helical wave. Ie 2 seperate waves combined into the same toroid. Such as a star. Again Anthony Peratt work shows how this happpens. But not in a toroid.
Some simple maths show the trajectory of the double helix's must be 1.0° in order to form the quadrupoles.
Since the current or electrical wave is travelling backward to the plasma around the toroid we find that the procession of the plasma makes the trajectory 1.1°
If we uses the Earth's rotation around the sun. A 1° trajectory would mean we have 360 days in a year, but a 1.1° trajectory is formed because the Suns magnetosphere which we are inside and is also rotating. This means earth has to go a little further to be at the same location according to the galaxtic observer. This is why Einstein needed time dilation to account for the curved trajectory of every rotating object he was measuring, possible not realizing that there is always a 2nd axis of rotation that must always be considered. Since time is a measurement value along the z axis, which is really just a distance measurement usual measured in wavelength or nanometers.
Ive never seeen that paper, and dont have time to read it today.
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Diffraction absolutely is the opposite of refraction. If a helical wave is curving around a second axis, then the plain that is changing must change the shape of the wave functions either side of the axis. Lets say its the magnetic plain. The outside sine wave, lets call it positive/north must shorten its amplitude and increase the distance between the points it appears to cross the z axis to your observerational perspective in 2D. The opposite is true for the inside edge. The compression of the wave along the z axis must increase the amplitude of the wave. Since the ion has other ions beside it travelling parallel, and the expanded north or positive component of the magnetic wave is next to the south or negative component of the opposite wave, which has a larger amplitude and is compressed. Ie has more energy density under the wave peak. As stated prior this is what differential equations are measuring. The difference between the energy as multiple waves curves around an object or axis. This causes lift or drag and is why we can model foils and fluid dynamics without understanding the actual mechanism that is causing it. This is why all current theorys for creating lift around a foil can be disproven. At least according to NASA.
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Water is plasma, its a polar molecule that can be controlled and modelled by MHD. Plasma is also controlled and modelled by MHD. The tesla valve is using non linear MHD to change the density of the fluid. Using turbulent flow created by the 2 opposing currents to increase the pressure and reduce the current flowing along the fixed volume of his Tesla valve.
Each non linear interaction is like adding a resistor into a an electrical circuit. The bast way to understand electricity is by using water current to replace electrical current. Once upon a time we planned to make computers using this anolog system. Eric Laithwaite does a great presentation on this
https://youtu.be/0tJfqMYHaQw
Its called the circle of magnetism, magnetism is spherical.
The reason water can model electricity is because plasma and electricity follow the same laws. MHD stands for magneto hydro dynamics. You think im in the wrong forum. Trust me when i say its has been electrical engineers that have had the best understanding of the universe thus far. Tesla and Laithwaite were the closest to using terms that are correct. Watch ever video laithwaite did. They are great. I couldnt use the term magnetic river because that implies a 2 dimensional direction to the wave. I have to use magnetic wave function. Because quantum mechanics has it modelled already and they choice the name, not me. Im just applying it to the 3 dimensional waves that result from combining multiply quantum wave functions. Such as those in a permanent magnet. Each atom has a wave function plus the whole magnet has a wave function.
Just like each proton has a wave function and each atom and each moelcule and so on.... until you get to the black hole. Waves on top of waves. The unified wave theory.
Oscillation within a space time matrix, with respect to quantum dialectic projections, combined with total holistic resonant emanations encapsulating a psychic connection to the reality plane. Reaching out and grabbing the future, allows you to integrate fractal resonance harmonics, bonded on a quantum level with domains of alternating opposite direction manifesting spatial harmony within the reality matrix. Reaching out and grabbing the future, allows you to integrate zero point energy, combined with geodesic lattice structures to elicit completeness and interconnection with the universe. When you can tune yourself internally to the higher frequencies, you can utilize scalar wave interaction, combined with intrinsic healing frequencies to produce mult-valent harmonic interaction.
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When engaged on an unconscious level, within the depths of your innermost psyche, you can easily ...
Yes, I think we've got and then become tired of your joke, thank you.
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Eric Laithwaite does a great presentation on this
https://youtu.be/0tJfqMYHaQw
You see all that "stuff" that Eric does in that video. They're called experiments. They confirm theories. Could you tell us about any real experiments that YOU have done to confirm any of the groundbreaking ideas that you are telling us about?
McBryce.
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You see all that "stuff" that Eric does in that video. They're called experiments. They confirm theories. Could you tell us about any real experiments that YOU have done to confirm any of the groundbreaking ideas that you are telling us about?
McBryce.
I designed a reactor that can be used as an experiment. It needs to be built. Its very similar to the process currently underway with ITER, the experimental fusion reactor currently being built.
I have also provided the experimental research done by Los Almos plasma physics lab, and magnetic island research from 2006 that shows the explosive pressure gradient of the non linear dynamics of plasma in from fusion research. To quote the paper
The total torque is balanced by the non-stationary part of the inertial torque: r~eθ· ∂~V /∂t. Fig-ures 7 show the contour plots of the magnetic island and the total torque. Red colorshows positive values, where the torque enforce the fluid element to move in the posi-tive poloidal angle direction, blue color shows negative values, where the torque enforce the fluid element to move in the negative direction. As shown in fig.7(a), around theO-point, the total torque becomes positive and, around the X-point, it becomes negative.This means that plasma is forced in the opposite directions around X- and O-points.In the flow-suppressed phase (phase A), the magnetic island has a finite phase differ-ence with respect to the external perturbation. In the nonlinear rapid growth phase(phase B), the magnetic island shifts in the poloidal direction so that the displacementsof the O- and X- points are different
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island)
I suggest reading section 4 and 5 (above) as you can read it tells you that the pespective changes from red to blue as it crosses the axis. Ive been saying this for some time. Basic the only difference between the north and south pole is the direction of rotation. There is always 6 perspectives of any rotation. We must use all of them if we are to understand what we are looking at. Once we understand we can reduce to 4 perspectives, as the X and Y are the same and inter changeable.
I also changed the time taken to clear a head of water by changing the direction of electrical current in a set of insulated conductors travelling parallel with the water current.
This experiment uses electrical current in a similar way to a Tesla's valve in order to change the density in the nozzle. Increasing the density in the nozzle, slows the current down. Reducing the density in the nozzle increases the current. Reducing the time to clear the head of water. It was a piss weak experiment using very little water pressure/current and 12 volt with very little current. The joys of living on solar power. But it still changed the time by 1 sec in 75 seconds. O.5 second between no current and current going either way. Head height is essential controlled by gravity. If DC electricity can change the density of water, that proves to me that gravity is electrically laws applied to fluids that can be controlled by MHD. Such as superionic lava inside Earth or plasma inside the Sun.
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If DC electricity can change the density of water, that proves to me that gravity is electrically laws applied to fluids that can be controlled by MHD.
If you can reliably reproduce a significant change in water density--or even a change flow not related to density-- due to a small electrical current you will have achieved something quite remarkable, I think. So why not concentrate for now on that small and presumably easy to replicate phenomenon?
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If DC electricity can change the density of water, that proves to me that gravity is electrically laws applied to fluids that can be controlled by MHD.
If you can reliably reproduce a significant change in water density--or even a change flow not related to density-- due to a small electrical current you will have achieved something quite remarkable, I think. So why not concentrate for now on that small and presumably easy to replicate phenomenon?
I still have the videos of the experiment. Although i need to rewire the nozzle, she suffered some major green death. I tried to go more powerful with the desalination pump, but motor controllers werent available to me and i waste nearly $1000 on parts that were useless without the motor controller. Covid supply issues.
All i was doing was using the electric and magnetic field of DC to replace the earths magnetic field. Let water fall and you can physically see the laminar tube shrink in size.
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You might not understand the effect even if you did observe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSowtQ9rjI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSowtQ9rjI)
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You might not understand the effect even if you did observe it.
Conductors were insulated from the water. And the 10 or 15amps i was using had about 20 .75mm copper conductors to choice as their path before trying to use the highly resistive salt water. At a fundimental level this is the same process.
The density changes that generate the movement of fluid in that video are micro scale compared to the Z-Pinch. All you have to do to understand the plasma reactor is realise the same flow produced by that 2D experiment is happening in the center of the toroid. We know this because all rotating currents induce a secondary current at 90° on the poloidal axis. All we have to do is built a double helical plasma flow in the toroid and we will built a self sustaining dynamo. Then whatever energy/current that is produces on the z pinch can be utilized without distrubing the self sustaining dynamo. Since we are using highly ionised plasma the flow rate increase. I hope you will agree it will work better than adding salt to water.
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I thought it would be worth explaining a few points from section 5 of the non linear dynamics paper.
The total torque is balanced by the non-stationary part of the inertial torque
Torque is produced in a plasma toroid by the rotation of the quadrupole lopes inside the stationary dipole. This in electricity is DC. In DC the wave function of the atom is rotated along the poloidal axis of the wave. Ie the direction of current. This torque produces the right hand rule and is caused by the degree offset in the trajectory of the wave that is controlling the atomic structure of the conductor. The degree of the offset between 2 atoms means that 1 set of quadrupole lopes are offset to the next by the trajectory of the wave. Since it is inevitable that the lopes are opposite in ever plain any rotation of 1 atom sends a retarded rotating wave along the conductor. Then each wave peak of which is called the electron and termed negative.
Red colorshows positive values, where the torque enforce the fluid element to move in the posi-tive poloidal angle direction,
The poloidal angle direction is the tracjectory, when they say positive they are saying the particle is spin up.
blue color shows negative values, where the torque enforce the fluid element to move in the negative direction
As ive been trying to explain, the direction of rotation or spin direction is the master of all opposites. The colour, pole or value we place on the direction the wave is spinning/travelling is just that, our perspective. We have to take into account that the opposite observer views every colour, pole as opposite to us at any given time, but only some values depending on their orientation.
When i used the reference -1 + -1 in another form, i was taking about an opposite observer plus an opposite orientation flipping what is seen twice. It changes how everything looks in terms of positive and negative, and we need to understand that for mathimatical reasons. If we look behind us that is what we should see, which means that is what 2 parallel particles see of each other.
In the flow-suppressed phase (phase A), the magnetic island has a finite phase differ-ence with respect to the external perturbation.
The quadrupoles cant get out of alignment to much, the compression of external laminar flow contains the magnetic island. This is differential equations at work.
"In the nonlinear rapid growth phase(phase B), the magnetic island shifts in the poloidal direction so that the displacementsof the O- and X- points are different"
Here we have the dipole of the atomic wave function shifting in the polidal direction. This is the equivalent of A.C. where the rolling over of the stronger dipole produces a larger change in the magnetic and electric field.
Since this is called the rapid growth stage, we can see how this has a repulsive force between the atomic wave function. In electricity we say anti parallel current repels, while In plasma we say non linear plasma expands (explosively according to this paper)
So we can say that not only does the plasma reactor produce a self sustaining dynamo. It also has the ability to extract an explosive pressure gradient on an entirely different induced reusable medium.
Ie, it uses no fuel. Its Energy Source (fuel) is the self sustaining dynamo.
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but you still keep quoting other work and claim you have done research....
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but you still keep quoting other work and claim you have done research....
It called citation. Its the standard method used to link research. I apologise i didnt come up with the method, it just seems to be what everyone does. The whole idea of crowdfunding Research and design with this perfectly logical invention which was orginally posted in a crowdfunding forum, is so i can do more physical research. I believe i was asked to provide proof. How else im i suppose to do it?
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link it to what? your ramblings? I made it 3/4 of the first line and gave up by the way.
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Most of what you write is gobbledygook, but you do reveal a few fundamental errors and misunderstandings.
The density changes that generate the movement of fluid in that video
The motion of the fluid is simply the Lorentz force of the magnetic field on a moving charge. Any density changes are entirely incidental to the forces involved, and in the case of water density changes will be very, very slight.
Ie, it uses no fuel. Its Energy Source (fuel) is the self sustaining dynamo.
You've misinterpreted the term 'self-sustaining dynamo'. This is not an energy source even in theory, but a mechanism whereby the dynamo generating a magnetic field can be sustained by preexisting mechanical energy. Eventually that energy will run out, but in the case of stars and planet, perhaps not for a long time. Nobody proposes this as an over-unity primary source of energy, not even the cranks like Sky Scholar (AFAIK--there's no way I'm watching his stuff and if he does claim this, well he's an idiot). To do this on a man-made device, you'd have to put the energy in first, and the timescales would all be a lot shorter.
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link it to what? your ramblings? I made it 3/4 of the first line and gave up by the way.
1 day you will regret that desicion. It wont matter to me in the end
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link it to what? your ramblings? I made it 3/4 of the first line and gave up by the way.
1 day you will regret that desicion. It wont matter to me in the end
I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
Pay me £15 million and I will make it happen :popcorn:
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Most of what you write is gobbledygook, but you do reveal a few fundamental errors and misunderstandings.
The density changes that generate the movement of fluid in that video
The motion of the fluid is simply the Lorentz force of the magnetic field on a moving charge. Any density changes are entirely incidental to the forces involved, and in the case of water density changes will be very, very slight.
Magnetic wave. The field is the central axis of a electromagnetic wave of which the force is perpendicular to because the wave is rotating, something the "field" fails to show you and why you dont understand that waves result in density changes which produces fluid motion.
You've misinterpreted the term 'self-sustaining dynamo'. This is not an energy source even in theory, but a mechanism whereby the dynamo generating a magnetic field can be sustained by preexisting mechanical energy. Eventually that energy will run out, but in the case of stars and planet, perhaps not for a long time. Nobody proposes this as an over-unity primary source of energy, not even the cranks like Sky Scholar (AFAIK--there's no way I'm watching his stuff and if he does claim this, well he's an idiot). To do this on a man-made device, you'd have to put the energy in first, and the timescales would all be a lot shorter.
So you believe the source of energy that is raising the tides of our planet every 12 hours and is doing so in multiple sinusoidal waves from fusion, not to mention all the fluid motion under the crust and the extended atmosphere. If you dont think the atmosphere has energy being used constantly, more than what is possible from the light and weak gravitational forces that dont even explain half of the tidal or atmospheric effects.
The energy in that ocean is incredible. And it comes from the magnetosphere and that comes from the self sustaining dynamo. Not from fusion.
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Lets all try to remember when you look at a magnetic field line it was generated by a magnetic and electric sinusoidal wave. When i call the pole an exponential wave peak. Im trying to remove the field lines from your head and replace them with a rotating helical wave. The Lorentz force is the density changes created by the waves which cause fluid motion. Electro Magnetic (wave driven) hydro dynamics
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So you believe the source of energy that is raising the tides of our planet every 12 hours and is doing so in multiple sinusoidal waves from fusion,
Did I say that? Nobody I know of has proposed that the tides are caused by fusion...
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So you believe the source of energy that is raising the tides of our planet every 12 hours and is doing so in multiple sinusoidal waves from fusion,
Did I say that? Nobody I know of has proposed that the tides are caused by fusion...
But it needs a source of energy? Where is the source? It takes energy to move water every day. A lot of energy. More than we have ever been able to generate, everyday is easily used. And at least 1 of them sinusoidal waves rotates with the planet. Another remains fixed to the orientation of the magnetosphere. While one rotates around with the same period as the Moon. So the energy source for the magnetosphere is inside our planet, we know that. The tides are controlled by it, not the weak force of gravity. You have to look at more than 1 wave to understand the energy in a system and its mechanisms.
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
Pay me £15 million and I will make it happen :popcorn:
Do you take Dogecoin or even Terra[Luna]*?
* Note the USB crypto wallet may be worth more as scrap metal than the crypto.
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
Pay me £15 million and I will make it happen :popcorn:
Do you take Dogecoin or even Terra[Luna]*?
* Note the USB crypto wallet may be worth more as scrap metal than the crypto.
We have moved onto Shiba Inu now as it is plummeting slightly slower towards oblivion than the Dogecoin investment. I will accept 2 SHIB. Oh no make that 3 SHIB. Ok 4 NOW.
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
Pay me £15 million and I will make it happen :popcorn:
You have not argued your idea for 20 pages yet :-DD
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I am regretting joining this thread. It's a criminal waste of entropy.
Negative entropy? Now that is dodgy technology.
Pay me £15 million and I will make it happen :popcorn:
You have not argued your idea for 20 pages yet :-DD
Ah yes that's because I am openly admitting I will come up with the idea once you have paid me :-DD
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sounds like we all need to launch a crowd funder each and then club together, you start pre-emptively pre-empting
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A pyramid scheme of crowdfundings you say. I could get behind that :-DD
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So you believe the source of energy that is raising the tides of our planet every 12 hours and is doing so in multiple sinusoidal waves from fusion,
Did I say that? Nobody I know of has proposed that the tides are caused by fusion...
But it needs a source of energy? Where is the source? It takes energy to move water every day. A lot of energy. More than we have ever been able to generate, everyday is easily used. And at least 1 of them sinusoidal waves rotates with the planet. Another remains fixed to the orientation of the magnetosphere. While one rotates around with the same period as the Moon. So the energy source for the magnetosphere is inside our planet, we know that. The tides are controlled by it, not the weak force of gravity. You have to look at more than 1 wave to understand the energy in a system and its mechanisms.
The tidal motion in the Earth's oceans are caused by the gravitational force of the Moon in its orbit around the Earth.
The frictional energy in this tidal motion acts as a drain on the orbital kinetic energy of the Moon, and the result is a very, very slow decay of the Moon's orbit.
The original orbital kinetic energy of the Moon is left over from the formation of the Solar System, and can be considered to be a "fossil" energy being drained by the tidal friction, in the absence of air resistance at the Moon's location.
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link it to what? your ramblings? I made it 3/4 of the first line and gave up by the way.
1 day you will regret that desicion. It wont matter to me in the end
I'd suggest you really need to learn about proper, real, actual, correct physics. There are many ways of learning more about physics, such as courses, books, and various internet sources can improve your knowledge.
Or you can continue shouting at the clouds, and believing, what seems to be a completely imaginary, almost certainly wrong, view of how physics really works.
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The tidal motion in the Earth's oceans are caused by the gravitational force of the Moon in its orbit around the Earth.
The frictional energy in this tidal motion acts as a drain on the orbital kinetic energy of the Moon, and the result is a very, very slow decay of the Moon's orbit.
The original orbital kinetic energy of the Moon is left over from the formation of the Solar System, and can be considered to be a "fossil" energy being drained by the tidal friction, in the absence of air resistance at the Moon's location.
Even if that was correct, it only accounts for 1 wave. The sinusoidal wave that rotates with the planet still needs a mechanism and an energy source that cant be the Moon or Sun.
Not to mention the fact the moon only effects the amplitude of the night time high tide time. It doesnt not control its timing. Which remains 6 hrs apart regardless of the moons phase. This is unexplained in your understanding because you dont understand the mechanism.
If your mechanism was correct you would still have to admit the Sun plays a bigger role than the Moon on the opposite tidal bulge and the 1 facing it, plus the timing.
The worst failure of your mechanism is, it has absolutely no mechanism or energy source for the wave rotating with earth. I have shown you this wave inside the larger wave of the tide. Can you please explain it using the moon as the mechanism?
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I'd suggest you really need to learn about proper, real, actual, correct physics. There are many ways of learning more about physics, such as courses, books, and various internet sources can improve your knowledge.
Or you can continue shouting at the clouds, and believing, what seems to be a completely imaginary, almost certainly wrong, view of how physics really works.
So you are say parallel current dont atract and anti parallel currents dont repel?
Are you also saying a rotating current does not incuse a secondary current at 90°?
This is the basic physics that only i seem to understand. And whats funny is they are well established physics LAWS, that everyone in this forum uses. I know this because i have worked with prove of it all my life. So how you dont is beyond me. Plasma is electricity.
If no one can understand that a magnetic field is a wave even after spending their working life measureing and drawing electric and magnetic fields as waves then there is no hope that you will understand elecrtomagnetism and im in the wrong place.
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So you are say parallel current dont atract and anti parallel currents dont repel?
Are you also saying a rotating current does not incuse a secondary current at 90°?
This is the basic physics that only i seem to understand. And whats funny is they are well established physics LAWS, that everyone in this forum uses. I know this because i have worked with prove of it all my life. So how you dont is beyond me. Plasma is electricity.
I think what you are trying to say is. That conventional physics is WRONG (at least in part), therefore you won't/can't/shouldn't learn it. I.e. You very strongly disagree with at least some of conventional physics wisdom.
I'd still suggest learning (conventional) physics properly. Then you will understand all the robust tests (experiments) and theories (that usually explain/match the results), that have come to shape modern day physics. How it has come about. Which parts are considered very trustworthy and reliable (correct), and upcoming physics things (such as newly discovered sub-particles and their effects), which are still poorly understood, and very open to new theories, to explain the newly discovered results.
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I think what you are trying to say is. That conventional physics is WRONG (at least in part), therefore you won't/can't/shouldn't learn it. I.e. You very strongly disagree with at least some of conventional physics wisdom.
I'd still suggest learning (conventional) physics properly. Then you will understand all the robust tests, experiments and theories, that have come to shape modern day physics. How it has come about. Which parts are considered very reliably correct, and upcoming physics things, which are still poorly understood, and very open to new theories, to explain the newly discovered results.
No what im saying is here is why the conventional physics laws work, and how they apply to a plasma toroid.
The conventional physics THEORYS that are not LAWS, some of which have been disproven already are wrong and here is the mechanism to understand why they are wrong
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No what im saying is here is why the conventional physics laws work, and how they apply to a plasma toroid.
The conventional physics THEORYS that are not LAWS, some of which have been disproven already are wrong and here is the mechanism to understand why they are wrong
Well, I'm a supporter of conventional physics (in general, but allow for things to change in time, as new experiments and theories, require. Such as with quantum physics stuff and the discovery of new tiny sub-particles). I can only point you at physics learning options (lead a horse to water), but if you don't/won't/can't learn it or want to disagree/disregard it, completely (NOT decide to drink the water), I can't help that (the horse will have to remain thirsty).
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Well, I'm a supporter of conventional physics. I can only point you at physics learning options (take a horse to water), but if you don't/won't/can't learn it or want to disagree/disregard it, completely (NOT decide to drink the water), I can't help that (the horse will have to remain thirsty).
But not electrical laws?
Can you see that the electric and magnetic field waves are 1 sinusoidal helical wave rotating around the conductor? So the magnetic field must be what? It can be used to induce a secondary sinusoidal wave at 90° in a secondary entirely seperate counductor and so on. We can even calculate the changes to the shape of 2 perpendicular 2D waves that wave induced by the "magnetic field". A field can have a negative. A wave can not, It only goes to zero and their interactions become loops and nodes. That is the misconception of the math we (the outside observer) use in electrical laws that needs to be adjust to understand plasma and magnetism/gravity in 3 dimensions. It basic but it requires a lot of work to get to it. The first part is understanding how wave function works for an atom and a magnet. And you have to understand a stars quadrupole by replacing the magnetic field lines with the hydrogen atoms wave function. I did this for you by showing you the solar magnetic reversal.
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But not electrical laws?
Can you see that the electric and magnetic field waves are 1 sinusoidal helical wave rotating around the conductor? So the magnetic field must be what? It can be used to induce a secondary sinusoidal wave at 90° in a secondary entirely seperate counductor and so on. We can even calculate the changes to the shape of 2 perpendicular 2D waves that wave induced by the "magnetic field". A field can have a negative. A wave can not, It only goes to zero and their interactions become loops and nodes. That is the misconception of the math we (the outside observer) use in electrical laws that needs to be adjust to understand plasma and magnetism/gravity in 3 dimensions. It basic but it requires a lot of work to get to it. The first part is understanding how wave function works for an atom and a magnet. And you have to understand a stars quadrupole by replacing the magnetic field lines with the hydrogen atoms wave function. I did this for you by showing you the solar magnetic reversal.
I feel like, I'm dealing with the following, factitious person/character/artificial-entity:
{Substitute in the video, where it says 'toast' or similar, with 'plasma/quadrupole/magnetic-field' etc}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLm6oTCFcxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLm6oTCFcxQ)
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I feel like, I'm dealing with the following, factitious person/character/artificial-entity:
{Substitute in the video, where it says 'toast' or similar, with 'plasma/quadrupole/magnetic-field' etc}
And i feel like im dealing with flat earthers that cant see that the 2 flat waves they have been measuring their whole life travels through a rotating 3 dimensional universe. And the field lines they draw on a flat piece of paper repersent the central axis of the wave. And the arrows repersent the direction of rotation of the helical wave.
Even although they say the field line wrap around the conductor. They use there fingers wrapped around their thumb to better understand the 3D wave but still want to live with their flat perspective of the universe because its easier to understand.
Try pointing your fingers in the direction of travel a little. Then you might understand the direction of the "field"
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I feel like, I'm dealing with the following, factitious person/character/artificial-entity:
{Substitute in the video, where it says 'toast' or similar, with 'plasma/quadrupole/magnetic-field' etc}
And i feel like im dealing with flat earthers that cant see that the 2 flat waves they have been measuring their whole life travels through a rotating 3 dimensional universe. And the field lines they draw on a flat piece of paper repersent the central axis of the wave. And the arrows repersent the direction of rotation of the helical wave.
Even although they say the field line wrap around the conductor. They use there fingers wrapped around their thumb to better understand the 3D wave but still want to live with their flat perspective of the universe because its easier to understand.
Try pointing your fingers in the direction of travel a little. Then you might understand the direction of the "field"
That reminds me of the time in physics lab as an undergraduate where we did practical experiments that demonstrated actual physics. I wish everyone could have that experience.
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That reminds me of the time in physics lab as an undergraduate where we did practical experiments that demonstrated actual physics. I wish everyone could have that experience.
We have done them, they are called electric generators. We built these things called oscilloscopes. Unfortunately 3D screens werent available.
Im starting to think Maxwell and Tesla gave up trying to explain that it was a 3 dimensional helical wave used to propagate/measure energy. Probably thought better off it after the last guy said that the Earth wasnt flat.
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Tides: I made a slight mistake, the effect of tides and tidal friction actually accelerates the Moon, but slows the Earth's rotation.
See https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction (https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction)
It points out that the Moon's effect on Earth tides is stronger than that of the Sun.
The fusion engine powering the Sun is not directly relevant to this discussion.
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Tides: I made a slight mistake, the effect of tides and tidal friction actually accelerates the Moon, but slows the Earth's rotation.
See https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction (https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction)
It points out that the Moon's effect on Earth tides is stronger than that of the Sun.
The fusion engine powering the Sun is not directly relevant to this discussion.
So how does the moon not significantly effect the timing of the tide, but significantly effect the amplitude of the wave height? Specifically the night time high tide leading up to and away from the full moon
Note; the timing of the tide is called the wave period, this remain 6hrs apart regardless of the location of the Moon. The Moon is a rotating single standing wave, rotating over the top off the 2 wave created by the magnetosphere, 1 high in the bow shock and another in the magnetotail. Sucking the water up.
Like a ball falling from a very high height while rotating cause lift, so does our planets magnetic wing interacting with the solar wind.
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I've heard, they are planing to do a new version of the Turbo Encabulator video.
It involves magnetic plasmid sinusoidal waves, brought about by the 3d-hydro-cyclic motions of the Moon and Sun, to create Non-linear-plasma energy waves.
Unfortunately, these Non-linear-plasma wavelets, are well known to produce mentally ill ramblings of complete gibberish, by anyone sailing too close and too long. E.g. a 6 month round the world, sailing trip, might do it.
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A pyramid scheme of crowdfundings you say. I could get behind that :-DD
no no, you get on top of it, or you are the mug loosing the money :)
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A pyramid scheme of crowdfundings you say. I could get behind that :-DD
no no, you get on top of it, or you are the mug loosing the money :)
I was planning to take commission from every level >:D
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280095922_Test_of_the_European_Transport_Solver_in_the_frame_of_Integrated_Tokamak_Modelling#pf4 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280095922_Test_of_the_European_Transport_Solver_in_the_frame_of_Integrated_Tokamak_Modelling#pf4)
A combination of the toroidal and poloidal fields gives rise to magnetic field lines which have a helical trajectory around the torus as shown in Fig. 1. In a stellarator the poloidal field is supplied by external coils [3]. The tokamaks rely on a toroidal plasma current for the generation of the poloidal field. Generally, the toroidal current pI in a tokamak is generated inductively by means of a transformer, in which plasma acts as a secondary winding coil. This immediately leads to major limitations of tokamak operation: the finite flux swing of the transformer in a combination with the finite resistivity of plasma results in a finite pulse length during which plasma is contained inside tokamak. This has motivated a development of alternative ways for the generation of the toroidal plasma current
When you finally figure out that electricity and plasma induce secondary currents at 90° to the coil current, try to remember that i compared you to flat Earthers and you still thought you were smarter and ridiculed the idea that the 3 dimensional method for transporting energy through the universe is not a 3 dimensional rotating helical wave. Even tho it is the only propagation mechanism that follows the inverse square law.
He who laughs last, laughs the longest.
PITCH exaggerated - pitch for superconductivity equals 1.1°. They had to exaggerate it to make it easier for you to visualize it.
To quote my post above
Try pointing your fingers in the direction of travel a little. Then you might understand the direction of the "field"
And the reply that comment got about physics experiments
That reminds me of the time in physics lab as an undergraduate where we did practical experiments that demonstrated actual physics. I wish everyone could have that experience.
If that paper isnt a plasma physics experiment then what is? I wish everyone would read and understand the experiments that have already been done before trying to accuse the inventor of not having a "basic understanding" of experiments already conducted and documented.
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Notice the secondary induced poloidal (B field) current has a rotational direction to it.
Electric motors and tranformers utilise this secondary current to increase the efficiency of the energy transfer between primary current and secondary induced current. We use individual and insulated Iron cores so as to induce as many individual currents as possible. The density and conductivity of the material changes the efficiency of the induction of energy into the material of the secondary circuit.
The "finite" resistance of plasma as described above, results in eddy currents being produced that cant be removed. This is due to the toroidal coil of the plasma being used as a secondary winding. When the resistance becomes so low that it becomes a superconductor it becomes the primary winding, back feeding the enormous amounts of energy into the electrical primary coil from the eddie currents that form because we cant insulate the medium into individual conductors.
In electrical circuits this is caused by the resistance to the primary current by the induction of the secondary current and eddie currents, that is created almost instantaneously on the z axis of the coil. This is why motors and transformers have high start up currents, that eventually settle down. We have so far not managed to insulated plasma currents from each other so these eddie currents produce magnetic islands in the plasma that expands the medium and increases resistance. Something we dont want in the toroid, but do want in the poloidal secondary current. The expansion of the plasma of the secondary current is used to rotate the plasma reactor and generate electrical power.
This backfeeding of energy causes resistance, which forms large eddie currents in the plasma toroid. The eddie currents stop the superconductivity of the plasma, which then reforms superconductivity as the eddie currents disappear. This is why the plasma produces a " finite pulse length" as described above.
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Tides: I made a slight mistake, the effect of tides and tidal friction actually accelerates the Moon, but slows the Earth's rotation.
See https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction (https://www.britannica.com/science/tidal-friction)
It points out that the Moon's effect on Earth tides is stronger than that of the Sun.
The fusion engine powering the Sun is not directly relevant to this discussion.
So how does the moon not significantly effect the timing of the tide, but significantly effect the amplitude of the wave height? Specifically the night time high tide leading up to and away from the full moon
Note; the timing of the tide is called the wave period, this remain 6hrs apart regardless of the location of the Moon. The Moon is a rotating single standing wave, rotating over the top off the 2 wave created by the magnetosphere, 1 high in the bow shock and another in the magnetotail. Sucking the water up.
Like a ball falling from a very high height while rotating cause lift, so does our planets magnetic wing interacting with the solar wind.
The full description of tides is complicated: the encyclopedia article quoted was basic.
For a detailed description, the interested reader should consult "Bowditch".
"The American Practical Navigator: An Epitome of Navigation", National Imagery and Mapping Agency, Publication 9"
(My copy is the bicentennial 2002 edition, the last one in a single volume. Later editions take up two volumes, with more data on electronic navigation.)
These are available in (huge) pdf files from https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/APN (https://msi.nga.mil/Publications/APN)
Chapter 9 discusses tides (important to navigation, obviously).
Paragraph 906 specifically addresses solar tide and its interaction with lunar tide. An interesting detail: "There are a few places, primarily in the South Pacific and Indonesian areas, where the solar oscillation is the more important, and at those places the high and low waters occur at about the same time each day. At Port Adelaide, Australia the solar and lunar semidiurnal oscillations are equal and nullify one another at neaps."
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An interesting detail: "There are a few places, primarily in the South Pacific and Indonesian areas, where the solar oscillation is the more important, and at those places the high and low waters occur at about the same time each day. At Port Adelaide, Australia the solar and lunar semidiurnal oscillations are equal and nullify one another at neaps."
What you are describing is called a node. The sinusoidal oscillations of the 2 waves cancel each other out, this is correct. Both waves have no negative value, yet they still cancel out. If they added together we call them a loop. Now apply the same logic to the 3 dimensional helical waves around a toroid. Ie the electric field sinusoidal wave and the magnetic field sinusoidal wave. It is also true that the negative and positive component of these waves cancel out, but only to the toroidal axis. The poloidal axis does not view the negative component as negative. It views both negative component as spin down in every direction around the Toroid, hence the "field lines" travel in the same direction along the z axis with a rotational component included, as shown above. While the same location views the positive component as spin up. The energy density in either component of the toroid is not the same. The inside edge negative component is compressed due to the small inside circumference campared to the outer positive component. The toroidal axis is a balanced energy system. But the poloidal is NOT, thus it becomes an exponential energy peak that induces a secondary current that travels in the direction of the field lines. With a slight rotation to it. Which forms the helical trajectory of the poloidal field lines. Aka a magnetic field measured by a sinusoidal wave.
With regards to the tide height along the Timor Sea, we still need an explaination for the loops and nodes that DO NOT rotate around the planet. They are fixed to a surface location, ie the loops that form at Broome and Darwin and the nodes that form inbetween. This sinusoidal wave pattern can not be created by the Sun or Moon because it does not rotate around the planet. It rotates with the planet. Meaning the cause of this (gravity) wave must come from the same energy source that generates the magnetic field, which also rotates with the planet. As can be seen around a magnet, and the loops and nodes formed by a ferro fluid.
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The logic between the antepenultimate and penultimate sentences of your reply is unclear.
Further details on tidal and non-tidal currents are found in paragraphs 913 to 922 of Bowditch.
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The logic between the antepenultimate and penultimate sentences of your reply is unclear.
Further details on tidal and non-tidal currents are found in paragraphs 913 to 922 of Bowditch.
There is a sinusoidal wave pattern of loops and nodes that occur inside both larger high tide waves. This is a fixed sinusoidal wave that rotates at the same speed as the planet. The position of each loop and node is fixed to a surface location. Ie Broome and Darwin, but you will find the same pattern exists along many of the east to west coastlines. Likely some north/south coasts as well. You are looking at the maximum height of the tide during the same high tide. Its best to do it on a spring tide but it can be clearly seen on every tide if you know what to look for.
Once you see the pattern of loops and nodes that exists across the Timor Sea, i added a sinusoidal wave to the graphic to make it easier to spot it. You can also see the same mechanism in the ferro fluid above it.
You will also notice this pattern across many other coast lines. The South China sea, North Taiwan has a node of under 1m while opposite it in Fuzhou it has a loop of 5m, Shanwei has a node of under 1m. Then it starts to rise again and that is only todays tide. I dont think i need to looking for the spring tide height difference.
Unless you remove the magnetic field lines of magnetism in your head and replace then with a magnet wave functions, such as the hydrogen atom from quantum mechanics you will never understand the 3 dimensional motion of Electromagnetism or the Plasma Universe. My spelling may be garbage, but the terms i use are specific. I have been mergering current terminology with 3 dimensional terminology in the hope you will natureally start to view magnetism from both the dipole and quadrupole perspective.
If you really believe the energy in a transformer core is being past by magnetic field lines with arrows on them and not a 3 dimensional wave such as that of the electric and magnetic wave measured by oscilloscopes in the primary that created the "field" in the first place and secondary winding that is harnessing it.
I previously showed some graphics of multiple hydrogen atoms wave functions side by side, its the simplest and current best model of the magnetic effect around all quadrupoles such as the Earth or Sun . Until you view these lobes over 2 dimensional maps you will not see the full picture. This is because as your observer enters the red lobe and looks backward the colour changes to blue, my reply to you a few nights ago explained this in detail.
The electromagnetic laws can be understood at a Quantum level by simply placing your observer inbetween 2 geosynchronous wave functions. You will quickly notice that the stronger dipoles are causing the electrostatic effect (like poles repel) and the quadrupole which must be offset N to S in every possible quadrant. When all forward facing dipole are compressed by acceleration such as accelerating Plasma, we find the electrostatic force remains the same as both dipoles compressed or expanded evenly, however the quadrupole inside the forward facing dipole have a higher energy density than the rear quadrupoles inside the rear component of the dipole. This is how Coulomb's law works at a quantum level. This differential level of energy between the compressed quadrupole and expanded quadrupole is measured by differential equations. I believe i have already explained the quantum difference between A.C and D.C.
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Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into a "Junk Science" section.
I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
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Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into a "Junk Science" section.
I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
What makes you think you're the smartest person here?
It's arrogant of you to assume you're the most intelligent person here, because no one else understands your theory. It's far more likely you're either poor at communicating your idea, or it's nonsensical.
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What makes you think you're the smartest person here?
It's arrogant of you to assume you're the most intelligent person here, because no one else understands your theory. It's far more likely you're either poor at communicating your idea, or it's nonsensical.
Well clearly i understand that electrical current induces a secondary electrical current at 90° and is measured in a sinusoidal wave. But then i thought all electrical people knew that. We call it ocean current for a reason, why would Plasma current not be induced by the same mechanism as electricity when its an electrically conducting fluid?
Why would we also assume the jets of the polodial axis of a Black Hole are powered by Fusion? When we have a mechanism for it in the form of the polidal axis of a toroid compressing plasma?
Why would you assume your intelligent enough to judge any of what i have said as junk science? Esp when these observations of plasma have been used to create Fusion. Such as the toroid and Z-pinch.
If you want to know how complicated systems work, you need to put the work in. If it was easy it would have been done already.
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If you want to know how complicated systems work, you need to put the work in. If it was easy it would have been done already.
If you want to promote a complicated idea, you need to put the work in to explain it in the language of the problem domain. It should have been done already.
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The mathematics isnt the problem, its your understanding of what the mathematical is measuring. Its a 3 dimensional sinusoidal helical wave. The mathematics is tracing the wave around the central axis of a 3 dimensional copper conductor. The electron has a trajectory. That is the math you need to understand. So does Plasma, and so do "Magnetic field Lines". Until you lose the Flat 2D perpendicular wave values of negative or at the very least understand it only exists to you the perpendicular observer. Loops and Nodes, Nodes dont go negative. Its a plasma universe.
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The mathematics isnt the problem, its your understanding of what the mathematical is measuring. Its a 3 dimensional sinusoidal helical wave. The mathematics is tracing the wave around the central axis of a 3 dimensional copper conductor. The electron has a trajectory. That is the math you need to understand. So does Plasma, and so do "Magnetic field Lines". Until you lose the Flat 2D perpendicular wave values of negative or at the very least understand it only exists to you the perpendicular observer. Loops and Nodes, Nodes dont go negative. Its a plasma universe.
Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.
Do you know even what an integral is?
Edit: also mathematics does not measure anything. It is used to build models and a hypothesis which can be tested by experimentation. Which is what you want. So you have to start with a model and a proof, then sell that to get funding for experimentation. Without a mathematical model, your idea is word salad.
Some hints:
1. Go and do basic algebra and calculus on Khan Academy.
2. Read https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu (https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu) ... particularly classical mechanics, electomagnetism at the very least.
3. Buy Mathematica.
4. Attempt to express your basic ideas as mathematics
5. Ask lots of questions to cover any walls you hit and models that don't work.
6. Eventually work out if you have a lump of gold or a lump of poo in your lap.
7. If it's gold, throw your entire brand down the shitter and change your name, then start a whole new funding thing.
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Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.
Do you know even what an integral is?
Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in the dipole.
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Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.
Do you know even what an integral is?
Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.
word salad.
Answer the question.
I'd love to see you pitch this to an investor. I'm only 1/10th of the bastard :-DD
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Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.
Do you know even what an integral is?
Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.
word salad.
Answer the question.
That is the answer genius, work it out. I stand more chance explaining flat sinusoidal waves to flat earths. How hard is it to measure from the central axis in 3 dimensions for you?
Surely you can figure out that all values from that axis are positive? Are they on a CNC machine?
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Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.
Do you know even what an integral is?
Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.
word salad.
Answer the question.
That is the answer genius, work it out. I stand more chance explaining flat sinusoidal waves to flat earths. How hard is it to measure from the central axis in 3 dimensions for you?
Surely you can figure out that all values from that axis are positive? Are they on a CNC machine?
word salad.
answer the question.
Where are the proofs. Where are the maths?
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Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into a "Junk Science" section.
I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
Guess what. We not only understand this stuff, but we can understand even more complicated stuff, such as the mathematics behind these things. So start talking on our level (imagine you are in a room full of people who actually spent years studying this stuff and further years using it in the work). Amaze us with the formulas YOU have come up with to prove your theory. Then we will all be speaking on the same level. We much prefer things like V=IR instead of half a page of text that tries to tell us the same thing.
Referring to other peoples work also won't help here or with any potential investors. It would be like someone looking for money to start a car company, saying they don't have a design or any technical education, but they've watched ever season of TopGear. I doubt the investors would be fumbling for their wallets.
McBryce.
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Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into a "Junk Science" section.
I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
Guess what. We not only understand this stuff, but we can understand even more complicated stuff, such as the mathematics behind these things. So start talking on our level (imagine you are in a room full of people who actually spent years studying this stuff and further years using it in the work). Amaze us with the formulas YOU have come up with to prove your theory. Then we will all be speaking on the same level. We much prefer things like V=IR instead of half a page of text that tries to tell us the same thing.
Referring to other peoples work also won't help here or with any potential investors. It would be like someone looking for money to start a car company, saying they don't have a design or any technical education, but they've watched ever season of TopGear. I doubt the investors would be fumbling for their wallets.
McBryce.
We went through the math of V=IR. How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero? Its not rocket science. I have spoke in your language. Do you know what an electromagnetic wave looks like? Now look at it in 3D. And understand the relationship between the 2 waves inside the helical wave.
Do 2 particles rotating at either side of the wave have opposite energy values? Or are they just rotating their trajectory around the axis in the opposite direction with the same energy value? Your 2D framework says the energy cancels out. But it doesnt, they are rotating at speed along an axis. You are neglecting that rotational energy and calling it the rignt hand rule of magnetism and saying it is a field line. And it just happens to induces on the polidal axis when roating around a toroid.
Look inside the wave attached, 1 sine wave is the electric field the other is the magnetic field. They share a common axis with the 3D wave they are measureing. The negative only exists to YOU the flat earther. If im 180° opposite YOU. I see positive where you see negative. But the central axis observer has a positive amplitude for 360° around the axis.
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We went through the math of V=IR. How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero? Its not rocket science.
Yes we did, but all that happened was that you revealed that you don't understand the difference between power and energy as you think there is some kind of inherent paradox in superconductivity.
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"How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero?"
What is the difference between voltage produced and voltage dropped?
Careful technical English is useful.
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Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into a "Junk Science" section.
I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
Sorry doesn't make sense to me.
I had seconds thoughts and removed my comment minutes after I posted it as I thought it might not be constructive to the thread.
I wonder what Thundef00t would think? Maybe he could do a debunking video on it
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Yes we did, but all that happened was that you revealed that you don't understand the difference between power and energy as you think there is some kind of inherent paradox in superconductivity.
Well if you cant understand the amplitude of the electromagnetic wave is a key component to the energy and therefore power measured by the math that results from the amplitude of the wave. Incase you forgot the amplitude of the wave is called voltage. Not to mention resistance. So 2 of the key components of measuring energy in the system are zero. While current can be anything. V=IR sounds useless to me.
Once you understand the electromagnetic wave, you might manage to understand the orbital waves created by every rotating object in the solar system and galaxy. I will give you a hint. Negative amplitude, ie negative voltage does not exists in 3 dimensions. And it most certainly does not oscillate in value as measured from the common axis.
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The field strength amplitude is measured in volts/meter, not volts.
It's just as easy to get these things right...
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The field strength amplitude is measured in volts/meter, not volts.
It's just as easy to get these things right...
I think the negative value is a little bit more of a fundamental issue, when it cant be measured in 3 dimensions.
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Of course, the field itself is a vector, with a positive magnitude (absolute value) and a direction.
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Of course, the field itself is a vector, with a positive magnitude (absolute value) and a direction.
So the electric field of this toroid and the frame of reference has been determined to be between 12 and 6, the magnetic field is then by default the equatorial axis between 3 and 9. Since the inside of the toroid has the same magnetic vector with a negative value. Thus it is considered a south pole. Or the opppsite to positive which is in the 3 position on the outside of the toroid. In order to maintain geometry for the directional change of the current we have flipped the clock face as shown. The issue is the positive and negative values can not flip as well. They are fixed. This means where reality says the electric field is a uniform dipole, the math derived from 2D waves has produced a positive and negative value for either end of the dipole. If we correct this issue then we run into the same problem on the magnetic field values.
The we have the secondary axis to measure from, as waves reach his location we must be able to determine the force. Since 2 negatives are above his locations and he is looking at the opposite side, we can assume both to be positive values of motion. While the opposite side of the wave to this location is now suppose to be negative and opposite, it is further away and more positive than the "negative" wave value on all sides of the toroid.
Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.
Try to fix the problem? Find a better method that provides the correct values so every observer can accurately predict the location direction and amplitude of the helical wave peak at any time.
Its hard to wrap your head around, but thats what you have to do. You have to view it in terms of spin up and spin down to view the quadrupole correctly, and clockwise or anticlockwise to view the dipole correctly. Its not a math exercise, its a perspective exercise. How does the opposite observer view rotation to you? You have to be able to look both ways along a helical wave and see the directional change of rotation switching the pole on your perspective, even although it is spinning the same way and all values are still the same.
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Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.
That's some top tier bullshit. Are you living in some relativistic Flatland?
Maxwells equations are quite happy in Minkowski space. That proof is over 100 years old now :palm:
And for ref, it's ALL a mathematical exercise.
(https://imgur.com/5c95V3W.jpg)
Edit: thanks to reminder from dunkemhigh, image courtesy XKCD :)
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Nicked from https://xkcd.com/435/
As he says:
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License.
This means that you are free to copy and reuse any of my drawings (noncommercially) as long as you tell people where they're from.
(my emphasis)
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OP: "I don't need a falsifiable experiment because my theory is always right"
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OP: "Maths is entirely optional, and not needed, under all circumstances"
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It seems I misunderstood your post on "anti gravity" and incorrectly read your post as an assertion of "antigravity" - a very different thing :(. Apologies for not understanding.
I am still struggling to understand....
1) Are you proposing the achievement of over-unity? (perpetual motion)
You seem to have no fuel input to your proposed system, but have a power output.
2) How can you have no fuel input, but power output?
3) Is this some kind of cold fusion? Zero-point energy? Harnessing quantum foam energy?
I honestly don't get how it is possible to extract power with no obvious input.
4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?
Simple answers please.... I am of only average intelligence.
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4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?
I'll answer that--yes it is a 'thing' but it is not a perpetual motion machine, thus we don't call it an infinitely self-sustaining dynamo. It is harnessing energy already present in the planet and eventually it will run out.
https://phys.org/news/2010-03-dynamo-theory-small-planets-self-sustaining.html
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4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?
I'll answer that--yes it is a 'thing' but it is not a perpetual motion machine, thus we don't call it an infinitely self-sustaining dynamo. It is harnessing energy already present in the planet and eventually it will run out.
https://phys.org/news/2010-03-dynamo-theory-small-planets-self-sustaining.html
Thanks for proving my point.
The self sustaining dynamo is produced in the toroidal current. Like any electrical coil this induces a secondary current at 90°. Obviously just like the electrical coil. This is the central poloidal axis of the currents rotation. Ie the Z- Pinch. In a self sustaining dynamo this energy can be extracted without interfering with the primary plasma current around the toroid. Go back and look at the plasma reactor design.
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It seems I misunderstood your post on "anti gravity" and incorrectly read your post as an assertion of "antigravity" - a very different thing :(. Apologies for not understanding.
I am still struggling to understand....
1) Are you proposing the achievement of over-unity? (perpetual motion)
What every powers Earth and the Sun, does so with energy to spare. Enough to create fusion. Heavy elements DO NOT give of energy when made. The planets come from the material made by the star.
You seem to have no fuel input to your proposed system, but have a power output.
2) How can have no fuel input, but power output?
The power is induced from the self rotating plasma currents in the toroid. This is like a self inducing electrical current in the primary windings of a transformer. Useless to you until you learn how to extract the energy. DC electricity cant be tapped by a trasformer. But in plasma it can.
3) Is this some kind of cold fusion? Zero-point energy? Harnessing quantum foam energy?
It would be closest to zero point, the Z- Pinch is formed from waves of energy around the toroid, the energy produced by all waves converging on the "zero point" is the reverse of the inverse square law. The Z-Pinch compresses the plasma with lots of potential energy that the plasma reactor turns into kinetic energy.
I honestly don't get how it is possible to extract power with no obvious input.
4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?
Its a thing, and they have modelled it, it provides our magnetic field on earths Poloidal axis. Which just happens to control the atmosphere and oceans tho MHD inductance.
Simple answers please.... I am of only average intelligence.
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Nicked from https://xkcd.com/435/
As he says:
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License.
This means that you are free to copy and reuse any of my drawings (noncommercially) as long as you tell people where they're from.
(my emphasis)
I think i have referenced NASA'S drawings multiply times now. All most all of the descent graphics of planetary plasma interactions come from NASA.
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Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.
That's some top tier bullshit. Are you living in some relativistic Flatland?
Maxwells equations are quite happy in Minkowski space. That proof is over 100 years old now :palm:
And for ref, it's ALL a mathematical exercise.
(https://imgur.com/5c95V3W.jpg)
Edit: thanks to reminder from dunkemhigh, image courtesy XKCD :)
So why does his math equal zero when all waves combine on a second axis? Or is the math entirely optional in your "flatland"?
Do you understand the reverse of the inverse square law? Ie, the wave heading inward?
Why do you think the "pole" is at the center of the coil of wire?
The inverse square law only applies outward, it becomes the square law inward. Hence the term exponential wave peak.
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In summary, your several last posts, seem to be saying, you believe in free energy, and know how to make such a device, and have patented it (patent pending, mentioned considerably earlier in this thread), as it is YOUR invention.
It just so happens, to apparently break a number of laws, experiments and hundreds of years of experimentation and theories in physics and/or mathematics and/or probably other subject areas.
Example (emphasis is mine):
In a self sustaining dynamo this energy can be extracted without interfering with the primary plasma current around the toroid.
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In summary, your several last posts, seem to be saying, you believe in free energy, and know how to make such a device, and have patented it (patent pending, mentioned considerably earlier in this thread), as it is YOUR invention.
It just so happens, to apparently break a number of laws, experiments and hundreds of years of experimentation and theories in physics and/or mathematics and/or probably other subject areas.
Example (emphasis is mine):
In a self sustaining dynamo this energy can be extracted without interfering with the primary plasma current around the toroid.
The laws of inductance are clear, it does not break them. The reverse of the inverse square law that is common between all forces produces the square law for the inward wave. It is called the Theta-Pinch or Z-Pinch. The Square law of electromagnetic waves produces an exponential wave peak on the z axis of the coil in 3 dimensions. Attached again.
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/theta-pinch (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/theta-pinch)
The theta pinch is generated by a fast-rising azimuthal current in a single-turn external conductor that is wrapped around the plasma tube. This produces an axial magnetic field that compresses and heats the plasma. The SCYLLA theta pinch, developed at Los Alamos in 1958, was the first magnetic-confinement system to produce really hot fusion plasmas with neutrons from thermonuclear reactions. The pulse duration of a theta pinch is very short, typically about 1 microsecond, but even on this short time scale plasma is lost by instabilities and end losses. Attempts to stopper the ends with magnetic fields or material plugs and by joining the two ends to make a toroidal theta pinch all failed. Both the Z-pinch and the theta pinch are inherently pulsed devices. Even if all the problems of end losses and instabilities were to be solved, a fusion power plant based on these configurations would be a doubtful proposition due to the large re-circulating energy.
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I wonder if it would be more of a viable method of extracting energy if you made use of that re-circulating energy?
You seem to put to much of your focus on the source of power, and forget to think about the energy conversion, every time energy is converted from 1 type to another, energy is lost. Focus on the energy required to produce the self sustaining dynamo. And the extraction of energy, ie which system, heating water into steam, or the non linear dynamics of plasma, will ultimately create a larger pressure gradient we can convert into electricity?
If heating water was so efficient, it would drive the wheels of your car.
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Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.
That's some top tier bullshit. Are you living in some relativistic Flatland?
Maxwells equations are quite happy in Minkowski space. That proof is over 100 years old now :palm:
And for ref, it's ALL a mathematical exercise.
(https://imgur.com/5c95V3W.jpg)
Edit: thanks to reminder from dunkemhigh, image courtesy XKCD :)
So why does his math equal zero when all waves combine on a second axis? Or is the math entirely optional in your "flatland"?
Do you understand the reverse of the inverse square law? Ie, the wave heading inward?
Why do you think the "pole" is at the center of the coil of wire?
The inverse square law only applies outward, it becomes the square law inward. Hence the term exponential wave peak.
Neat way to avoid answering the actual question.
Have you considered retraining as a defence lawyer?
Show me the mathematics not the word salad. You might find a couple of neat surprises in your model if you bothered.
Also it’s not my flatland. It’s Edwin Abbott Abbott’s flatland.
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Neat way to avoid answering the actual question.
Have you considered retraining as a defence lawyer?
Show me the mathematics not the word salad. You might find a couple of neat surprises in your model if you bothered.
Also it’s not my flatland. It’s Edwin Abbott Abbott’s flatland.
You dont seem to understand the limiting factor to infinity. Ie as the square law of the wave approaches the axis its is climbing exponentially. The limiting factor becomes the speed of the wave that created it. Resistance to flow builds pressure. Eventually the theta pinch cant go anyfast than the wave that created it. Like a yacht trying to climb over its own wave, aka hull speed. Resistance does eventually form as the speed of the polidal wave tries to out run the wave around the toroid. Infinity does not exist for that reason. This is why we have a maximum speed of light.
If you dont understand the reverse of the inverse square law, then you i cant help you. Because that is basic math everyone should have learned in school. All you have to do is understand that the central point of the generated wave, is not the center of the system. You must also calculate the resultant energy of the inward wave on the Z-Pinch axis. The same value of energy produced by the global electric circuit/current on the outside of the toroid Ie the Lava, tide, atmosphere, and magnetosphere, is heading inward and being used to circulate a secondary current. Feel free to work it out yourself. I know the theta pinch powers electromagnetism and is produced by every coil on the planet.
This is why superconductors levit on any magnet, the wave of the "electron" that produces the magnetic field can not exceed the speed of rotation of the magnetic wave function in the magnet, ie everything (electrons included) rotate at the same speed. A perfect mirror of rotation. Add any resistance and the phase angle starts to increase between the fields.
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Show me the mathematics not the word salad.
I barely understand what you are saying because you’re not using the right communication method. As for square law, that’s a trite high level simplification over the mathematics which considers a point source only. It’s a little more complicated when topologically you’re not thinking in terms of a spherical cow. I haven’t heard a single mention of any of the relevant mathematical concepts yet. Because you have no idea what you are talking about but think you do.
When you insult someone’s intelligence you lose the audience and the credibility even further. Please go and seek some help. That’s all I can say now.
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Show me the mathematics not the word salad.
I barely understand what you are saying because you’re not using the right communication method. As for square law, that’s a trite high level simplification over the mathematics which considers a point source only. It’s a little more complicated when topologically you’re not thinking in terms of a spherical cow. I haven’t heard a single mention of any of the relevant mathematical concepts yet. Because you have no idea what you are talking about but think you do.
When you insult someone’s intelligence you lose the audience and the credibility even further. Please go and seek some help. That’s all I can say now.
The Irony of insulting my intelligence countless times and not expecting the same in return. Have you every heard of treating others as you expect to be treated? This is why you dont understand a mirror, you obviously dont look at one very often.
What do you see looking in a mirror at a magnet or coil of wire carrying DC current, that is in front of you and the mirror? What is the difference between a north and south pole in terms of the atomic rotation?
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I asked politely for mathematical proof and you discarded that as unnecessary and then insulted my intelligence. Game was over then. Now you’re on your soap box covered in your own excrement throwing ridiculous syllogisms to leverage this hideous lack of understanding propelled by your narcissism.
That’s what you’d find if you looked in a mirror.
Ask yourself why you have been rejected by every community so far. Hint: it’s not the community. It’s textbook narcissism.
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I asked politely for mathematical proof and you discarded that as unnecessary and then insulted my intelligence. Game was over then. Now you’re on your soap box covered in your own excrement throwing ridiculous syllogisms to leverage this hideous lack of understanding propelled by your narcissism.
That’s what you’d find if you looked in a mirror.
You were all asked to leave if all you had was insults by someone else as well and you choice not to and continued down that path of "attacking the man" instead of the invention.
The maths is simple, if you want to create a useable potential difference from current you must add reistance, in every generator around the planet this is done by rotating the theta pinch passed a resistive material. In fluid dynamics MHD and electromagnetism this is achieved by restricting flow of the secondary induced current. On the plasma reactor this is provided by the turbine blades. Voltage is the measure of potential difference. In fluid dynamics (Plasma MHD) this is called a pressure gradient (explosive).
Its an invention, worry about the design please. If math is all your interested in, your welcome to leave. The design is what an engineer is interested in discussing for obvious reasons. Im not interested in spending months trying to explain math, esp if they arent willing to learn that positive isnt positive to everyone.
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I’m actually a qualified engineer. The mathematics are what I’m interested in.
You have no idea even about engineering clearly.
I don’t have to leave when asked. And I merely asked for validation of the idea in the form of mathematics which is exactly what anyone who was going to part with money or work with you is going to ask for. Unless it’s a software product :-DD
As I mentioned earlier you are selecting parts of peoples posts to reply to because you’re way out of your depth. I believe you started the ad-hominem attacks before I even joined the thread.
Anyway I have much more important stuff to do today. The toilet needs scrubbing.
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Try calculating the energy density on either side of the toroid in the plain attached, these must be balacened in total energy, however it is clear the inside edge must have a higher energy density in order to balance the inceased volume of the outer edge of the toroid. As stated these values are balanced in energy but not in volume. Since both inside edges are the same polarity and both outside edges are the opposite value, their exists a potential difference on the polidal axis that generates the theta-pinch or z-pinch.
In the plasma reactor this generates compressed plasma with a rotating potential. Ie the secondary current.
I would do the simply volume calculations for you but i have more important things to do.
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You have better things to do than explain your entire idea mathematically?
Or you don’t know how?
I know how toroidal magnetic fields work. In fact you’ll find if you get to know me I’m quite interested in them and their applications (genuinely) :-DD
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You have better things to do than explain your entire idea mathematically?
Or you don’t know how?
I know how toroidal magnetic fields work. In fact you’ll find if you get to know me I’m quite interested in them and their applications (genuinely) :-DD
Yeah im heading to get my passport stamped. Wind and tide wait for no man.
If you're genuinely interested, look at the helical pattern to pulsar and galactic polar jets. What is Archimedes wheel to fluid in 3 dimensions? What does a density wave induce into a fluid medium? Try to think about how Gravity controls the density of a medium and what that induces (current)
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What makes you think you're the smartest person here?
It's arrogant of you to assume you're the most intelligent person here, because no one else understands your theory. It's far more likely you're either poor at communicating your idea, or it's nonsensical.
Well clearly i understand that electrical current induces a secondary electrical current at 90° and is measured in a sinusoidal wave. But then i thought all electrical people knew that. We call it ocean current for a reason,
No we don't call it ocean current, are you that thick or trolling?
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Well clearly i understand that electrical current induces a secondary electrical current at 90° and is measured in a sinusoidal wave. But then i thought all electrical people knew that. We call it ocean current for a reason,
No we don't call it ocean current, are you that thick or trolling?
Really funny Simon. You almost had me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_current
Not really, notice the Hadley cell configuration to the currents. Lay the wiki image over the tidal map attached and you have urself some 3 dimensional perspective of the ocean CURRENTS we are talking about
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I'm sorry, you were talking about electrical currents but then trolling is trolling.
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I'm sorry, you were talking about electrical currents but then trolling is trolling.
As i said at the very beginning, likely one of the many important bits of information that you didnt read. When i talk about plasma current, dont think electrical, think moving actual mass. How much more energy does it take to move mass? Electron vs ion?
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How much more energy does it take to move mass? Electron vs ion?
Well, what are their masses? And in the case of oceans, you seriously think electrical current and water currents are the same thing somehow! :-DD
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Really funny Simon. You almost had me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_current
Not really, notice the Hadley cell configuration to the currents. Lay the wiki image over the tidal map attached and you have urself some 3 dimensional perspective of the ocean CURRENTS we are talking about
Something to keep in mind is that's a projection from the Earth's surface onto a 2-D image. The Earth itself isn't flat.
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How much more energy does it take to move mass? Electron vs ion?
Well, what are their masses? And in the case of oceans, you seriously think electrical current and water currents are the same thing somehow! :-DD
Thats a simple ratio between "weight" of electron being moved and the ion being moved.
Im not saying they are the same thing. Im saying they are fundimentally controlled by the same force. Lets call it the quantum Coulomb's force. Go back to the wave function of multiple hydrogen atoms, figure out in your head why they repel from the like dipoles and attract from the opposite quadrupoles when they are rotated by a rotating helical wave, which all waves are in 3 dimensions. Ie the magnetic field wave which is perpendicular to the surface at all locations. Ie parallel with the force "gravity" which is a wave that changes density. Its the same wave. The field lines are screwing with your understanding of what you are actually looking at. Look at earths magnetic declination map. Notice the loops. That is formed from the loops of the helical wave moving away from the toroid. Understand what you are looking at and it should fall into place. Like an apple from a tree. It can also help to look inside the apple.
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Something to keep in mind is that's a projection from the Earth's surface onto a 2-D image. The Earth itself isn't flat.
Have you ever tried to explain to a flat earther; that as latitude increases the distance between 2 meridians reduces as you get closer to the poles?
This is the reason for the inverse square law in spherical space as can be seen with any common diagram off it. When the souce of the waves is not the center of the system the area the wave is travelling into from the axis, is smaller. As is the energy density under the inside half of the toroid. Area can not decrease on a balanced system with out increasing density.
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Have you ever tried to explain to a flat earther; that as latitude increases the distance between 2 meridians reduces as you get closer to the poles?
This is the reason for the inverse square law in spherical space as can be seen with any common diagram off it. When the souce of the waves is not the center of the system the area the wave is travelling into from the axis, is smaller. As is the energy density under the inside half of the toroid. Area can not decrease on a balanced system with out increasing density.
You're over-complicating fairly straightforward geometry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Cartesian_coordinates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Cartesian_coordinates)
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You're over-complicating fairly straightforward geometry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Cartesian_coordinates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Cartesian_coordinates)
Does the volume of a sphere reduce as distance to the center decreases?
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Does the volume of a sphere reduce as distance to the center decreases?
The volume of a sphere is a function of it's radius. If the radius decreases, the volume decreases.
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How much more energy does it take to move mass? Electron vs ion?
Well, what are their masses? And in the case of oceans, you seriously think electrical current and water currents are the same thing somehow! :-DD
Thats a simple ratio between "weight" of electron being moved and the ion being moved.
Im not saying they are the same thing. Im saying they are fundimentally controlled by the same force. Lets call it the quantum Coulomb's force.
So you don't actually know and will make up some fancy sounding name on the spot, gee no wonder we can't keep up, you redraw physics in every post.
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Try calculating the energy density on either side of the toroid in the plain attached
Actually, why don't you do that to show the validity of your argument?
I would do the simply volume calculations for you but i have more important things to do.
But you must've done something like this to figure that it's a goer, so just copy'n'paste your earlier calculations.
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No he has not written anything of his own other than his pathetic about me bit on his website where the best he could do for a "seminal moment" was sailing around the world by which measure we should have several dozen born again new age rehashed physicists. I mean if he could sex it up a bit like be a university dropout that started his own campany he would by now be worth $8bn based on his word alone about a technology no one has ever seen.....
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I think the correct term for this thread would be 'alternative science'. >:D
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I think the correct term for this thread would be 'alternative science'. >:D
The internet seems to have given all these flat Earthers, free energy, magic crystals, people a platform to have a voice.
I don't think the OP, has answered a single question in this thread, (scientifically/mathematically) correctly yet. But maybe they have, it is a long thread.
Typically, they seem to just copy/paste/similar, their stuff about this plasmic stuff, which I think even some youngsters, would immediately realize they are talking complete and utter nonsense.
They seem to have a big list of excuses, to dodge any mathematics, whatsoever. Something on the lines of ...
- I'd love to, but I'm busy today
- you do the maths
- already done it, now where did I put it
- maths is way too easy, for me to post it here
- I'm great at maths, can't do it now, because I need to write something else
- maths is not necessary, here, because the plasmic turbo encabulator's sine wave
TL;DR
No science or mathematics, found in this thread, by the OP, as far as I can tell/see.
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
:palm: :-DD :=\ :=\ :bullshit: :blah: :blah: :blah: :popcorn: :horse:
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
So you're saying that instead of studying for a degree in physics I should have just taken up surfing and maybe dropped some acid because then I would understand your theories better? Actually, I think that's probably correct as stated. Is it too late? If I buy a surfboard, wetsuit and some LSD can I unlearn the wrong science that is preventing me from understanding your invention?
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
Are you a real person or a bot?
If you are human please reply "hello" and nothing more .
I apologize in advance if I am wrong and you do reply correctly.
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:-* NLPR please help your case. You are clearly willing to invest your time in responding to the forum member's questions so, could you give Dave's forum the management summary for your innovation?
List out the bullet points as if you were doing a Powerpoint presentation to a group of high rolling investment dragons. No math, no science, no complex concepts about fluxing dipoles, simply state the scope of your invention, the problems that it solves and why, it's worth their money investing in.
This is your 5 minute pitch.
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
So you're saying that instead of studying for a degree in physics I should have just taken up surfing and maybe dropped some acid because then I would understand your theories better? Actually, I think that's probably correct as stated. Is it too late? If I buy a surfboard, wetsuit and some LSD can I unlearn the wrong science that is preventing me from understanding your invention?
I think consuming methanol might have a more appropriate way to get to the required outcome if you already know physics.
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This reminds me of that time where some guy on here thought a lightbulb powered by a tesla coil was emitting "new forms of energy" because metal foils were attracted to it. We over and over tried to tell him it was just electrostatics and capacitance, even showing that the experiment could be replicated by anyone with just a plasma globe toy and a strip of aluminum foil. But once cornered he devolved into insulting madness and the thread was locked. :bullshit: ::)
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Yes, Simon thanks, for thoughts about ' Tell a story, a bit more interesting...'.
I encountered such a romantic angle, or at least it was friends; The fellow's buddy had a newly purchased YACHT they were refurbishing...due for a big sailing trip. BUT, the guy's friend died, around then, just as he was to sail his new, fresh boat.
My friend groosed about that, for many years after ...
"I shoulda gone in that, we could have sailed..."
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I think consuming methanol might have a more appropriate way to get to the required outcome if you already know physics.
Well, ethanol didn't do the trick despite my valiant efforts!
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Have you ever surfed an 11 ton yacht at 15 to 18kts down a wave? Or tried to keep a yacht straight with an 6 to 10m swell passing underneath you? Just because i mentioned surfing was so to see if you had the ability to see a curving beach creating a left or right handed break. Standard understanding is the wave breaks because of the energy underneath. Which is true when the wave finally breaks on the beach. But the surfer isnt interested in that wave. Hes interested in the compression of the energy in the y axis. Hence the term left or right handed break. If everything is a wave, gravity wave, electromagnetic wave. Electric field wave, magnetic field wave. Then you have to understand the energy can travel in the y axis as well. This is why you the flat earther cant understand the exponential standing wave peak created on the polidal axis. The inverse square law is nullified by the convergence of the wave. Have you never used a magnifying glass to set paper on fire?
Not to mention the explosive growth of compressed plasma in fusion research. What did you think explosive growth meant? And what do you think a wave does that cause the water to rise and fall? Do you know how head height works? It is changing the density as it propagates, its a density wave. Ie gravity wave.
Btw, when waves crash on a beach, they produce rip CURRENTS. The current forms around the center of the beach from the compression of the y axis into a concave beach.
Waves are funny things, and not as well understood as they should be, especially when considering electromagnetic waves arent even considered to be a wave. Well evidently they arent.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-science-behind-the-ripples-and-wakes-in-water-1.1394676 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-science-behind-the-ripples-and-wakes-in-water-1.1394676)
HELLO wakey wakey.
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Yes, Simon thanks, for thoughts about ' Tell a story, a bit more interesting...'.
I encountered such a romantic angle, or at least it was friends; The fellow's buddy had a newly purchased YACHT they were refurbishing...due for a big sailing trip. BUT, the guy's friend died, around then, just as he was to sail his new, fresh boat.
My friend groosed about that, for many years after ...
"I shoulda gone in that, we could have sailed..."
The best days that you own a boat are the day you get it and the day the insurance pays out when it sinks.
That was told to me by someone who did actually sail around the world.
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I think the correct term for this thread would be 'alternative science'. >:D
The internet seems to have given all these flat Earthers, free energy, magic crystals, people a platform to have a voice.
I don't think the OP, has answered a single question in this thread, (scientifically/mathematically) correctly yet. But maybe they have, it is a long thread.
Typically, they seem to just copy/paste/similar, their stuff about this plasmic stuff, which I think even some youngsters, would immediately realize they are talking complete and utter nonsense.
They seem to have a big list of excuses, to dodge any mathematics, whatsoever. Something on the lines of ...
- I'd love to, but I'm busy today
- you do the maths
- already done it, now where did I put it
- maths is way too easy, for me to post it here
- I'm great at maths, can't do it now, because I need to write something else
- maths is not necessary, here, because the plasmic turbo encabulator's sine wave
TL;DR
No science or mathematics, found in this thread, by the OP, as far as I can tell/see.
Because in old times, you had a crazy idea ie. that the earth is flat. You talked to people about it in the local pub and they told you that you are an idiot.
You talked about it in work and they told you, you are an idiot. And after a while the penny dropped and you realized that the idea was wrong.
Now after the first rejection you go online and you can find a group of 500 people that think the same, who are from all over the globe. 500 is a staggering large amount of people, as our monkey brain is only prepared to deal with, remember, care about maybe 2000 people in total. And thus we end up with this.
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Have you ever surfed an 11 ton yacht at 15 to 18kts down a wave? Or tried to keep a yacht straight with an 6 to 10m swell passing underneath you? Just because i mentioned surfing was so to see if you had the ability to see a curving beach creating a left or right handed break. Standard understanding is the wave breaks because of the energy underneath. Which is true when the wave finally breaks on the beach. But the surfer isnt interested in that wave. Hes interested in the compression of the energy in the y axis. Hence the term left or right handed break. If everything is a wave, gravity wave, electromagnetic wave. Electric field wave, magnetic field wave. Then you have to understand the energy can travel in the y axis as well. This is why you the flat earther cant understand the exponential standing wave peak created on the polidal axis. The inverse square law is nullified by the convergence of the wave. Have you never used a magnifying glass to set paper on fire?
Not to mention the explosive growth of compressed plasma in fusion research. What did you think explosive growth meant? And what do you think a wave does that cause the water to rise and fall? Do you know how head height works? It is changing the density as it propagates, its a density wave. Ie gravity wave.
Btw, when waves crash on a beach, they produce rip CURRENTS. The current forms around the center of the beach from the compression of the y axis into a concave beach.
Waves are funny things, and not as well understood as they should be, especially when considering electromagnetic waves arent even considered to be a wave. Well evidently they arent.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-science-behind-the-ripples-and-wakes-in-water-1.1394676 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-science-behind-the-ripples-and-wakes-in-water-1.1394676)
HELLO wakey wakey.
I'll bite then. This is a very serious subject, so no jokes or sarcasm on my part.
I researched more into the OP, and found they are an amazing scientist and inventor. Let me tell you one of the definitely true stories, about this amazing hero.
They were helping out, an injured friend, in their apple tree farm. The OP was sitting under a tree, and an Apple fell on them, while the friend was waving at them.
So, they decided to call this Apple-Gravy-Tea Waves. (They love Apples, Gravy on every thing and drinking Tea). So, they immediately patented it, but the silly patent Clark, misspelled Gravy-Tea, as 'Gravity Waves', but it was at least their invention.
In the patent, it explains that it MUST BE 'WAVES' and NOT particles, 100% proved, because it can't be a coincidence, that the friend waved at them, when the apple fell on them.
This 'force' is obviously unlimited, and so can be used in a new free-energy machine (patent pending).
Also, the apples were a special type, which have Currents (Raisins) in them, instead of seeds. Further proving that this can make electricity (from the currents), as part of the free energy machine.
TL;DR
This website, explains WHY I made this post (sort of):
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/ask-a-silly-question-and-you-will-get-a-silly-answer.html (https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/ask-a-silly-question-and-you-will-get-a-silly-answer.html)
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Because in old times, you had a crazy idea ie. that the earth is flat. You talked to people about it in the local pub and they told you that you are an idiot.
You talked about it in work and they told you, you are an idiot. And after a while the penny dropped and you realized that the idea was wrong.
Now after the first rejection you go online and you can find a group of 500 people that think the same, who are from all over the globe. 500 is a staggering large amount of people, as our monkey brain is only prepared to deal with, remember, care about maybe 2000 people in total. And thus we end up with this.
Very good point. I heard that one of these 'flat-earthers' in the US, made a big rocket, strapped themselves to it, to prove the earth is flat (there is controversy, over if they were a true flat-Earther, or were just doing it for the (maybe fame?) and money). It went wrong, and they ended up getting killed, unfortunately.
I think, it is also a sort of confirmation-bias (finding those 500 people and their information), and also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Where the person, due to this Dunning–Kruger effect, doesn't realize how wrong they are, compared to the people who really know and understand the subject in question.
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Time for Bingo game to lighten things up.... (click for full size)
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:-DD
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This reminds me of that time where some guy on here thought a lightbulb powered by a tesla coil was emitting "new forms of energy" because metal foils were attracted to it. We over and over tried to tell him it was just electrostatics and capacitance, even showing that the experiment could be replicated by anyone with just a plasma globe toy and a strip of aluminum foil. But once cornered he devolved into insulting madness and the thread was locked. :bullshit: ::)
Any chance you can give me a link to that thread? Sounds like a fun read.
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1509925;image)
To see the story properly, please click the following:
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Plasmoid Nonlinearplasma NLP
A Short Story
by MK14
Nonlinearplasma NLP had always hated toroid yacht with its curried, courageous CURRENTS. It was a place where he felt quantum.
He was a plasmoid, super-conducting, y-axis drinker with genius brains and idiot heads. His friends saw him as a sticky, salty saint. Once, he had even brought a knobbly flat earthers back from the brink of death. That's the sort of man he was.
Nonlinearplasma walked over to the window and reflected on his Tesla surroundings. The sea waves teased like sailing plasmas.
Then he saw something in the distance, or rather someone. It was the figure of Polodial Z-Pinch. Polodial was a NASA flat earthers with mad brains and crazy heads.
Nonlinearplasma gulped. He was not prepared for Polodial.
As Nonlinearplasma stepped outside and Polodial came closer, he could see the spotty glint in his eye.
Polodial glared with all the wrath of 2108 wave-function tan toroids. He said, in hushed tones, "I hate you and I want Free-Energy."
Nonlinearplasma looked back, even more pressure gradient and still fingering the superionic Plasma. "Polodial, waves crash on a beach," he replied.
They looked at each other with helical feelings, like two poised, petite plasmics patent pending at a very double-helical Yacht party, which had sound of waves music playing in the background and two ratating sphere uncles energy to the beat.
Nonlinearplasma studied Polodial's mad brains and crazy heads. Eventually, he took a deep breath. "I'm sorry," began Nonlinearplasma in apologetic tones, "but I don't feel the same way, and I never will. I just don't hate you Polodial."
Polodial looked 1.1 degrees, his emotions raw like a naughty, nervous Non-linear-tron.
Nonlinearplasma could actually hear Polodial's emotions shatter into 9210 pieces. Then the NASA flat earthers hurried away into the distance.
Not even a drink of y-axis would calm Nonlinearplasma's nerves tonight.
THE END
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I think the correct term for this thread would be 'alternative science'. >:D
I would call it "technoglossolalia". And I think perhaps we should also name it the "Voynich-Kosinski Syndrome". Possibly caused by magnetohydroneurodynamic (MHND) effects in the brain from exposure to electric field helical gradients at obtuse angles to varying gravitational profiles.
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Because in old times, you had a crazy idea ie. that the earth is flat. You talked to people about it in the local pub and they told you that you are an idiot.
You talked about it in work and they told you, you are an idiot. And after a while the penny dropped and you realized that the idea was wrong.
Now after the first rejection you go online and you can find a group of 500 people that think the same, who are from all over the globe. 500 is a staggering large amount of people, as our monkey brain is only prepared to deal with, remember, care about maybe 2000 people in total. And thus we end up with this.
Very good point. I heard that one of these 'flat-earthers' in the US, made a big rocket, strapped themselves to it, to prove the earth is flat (there is controversy, over if they were a true flat-Earther, or were just doing it for the (maybe fame?) and money). It went wrong, and they ended up getting killed, unfortunately.
I think, it is also a sort of confirmation-bias (finding those 500 people and their information), and also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Where the person, due to this Dunning–Kruger effect, doesn't realize how wrong they are, compared to the people who really know and understand the subject in question.
That dude wasn’t a flat earther. He just liked pissing around with rockets and needed some idiots to fund it.
The failure of the parachute and watching him turn into a lawn dart was unfortunately but I actually have to respect someone with enough balls to kill themselves in glorious style.
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That dude wasn’t a flat earther. He just liked pissing around with rockets and needed some idiots to fund it.
The failure of the parachute and watching him turn into a lawn dart was unfortunately but I actually have to respect someone with enough balls to kill themselves in glorious style.
In the videos about it. I think he had the massive rocket on a long trailer, and it got hit by another vehicle (or something), and got damaged. That may have messed up the parachutes release mechanisms, or jammed it up, etc. But I'm speculating.
I guess by now, an official accident report, may have been generated, especially if he needed some kind of air-worthiness certifications, for his contraption(s).
I'm not sure, if they would create such a report or not.
Hopefully he realized that what he was doing, was of VERY HIGH risk, and was happy to take the risk?
Like rock-climbing and some other stuff, which is above average risk.
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Because in old times, you had a crazy idea ie. that the earth is flat. You talked to people about it in the local pub and they told you that you are an idiot.
You talked about it in work and they told you, you are an idiot. And after a while the penny dropped and you realized that the idea was wrong.
Now after the first rejection you go online and you can find a group of 500 people that think the same, who are from all over the globe. 500 is a staggering large amount of people, as our monkey brain is only prepared to deal with, remember, care about maybe 2000 people in total. And thus we end up with this.
Very good point. I heard that one of these 'flat-earthers' in the US, made a big rocket, strapped themselves to it, to prove the earth is flat (there is controversy, over if they were a true flat-Earther, or were just doing it for the (maybe fame?) and money). It went wrong, and they ended up getting killed, unfortunately.
I think, it is also a sort of confirmation-bias (finding those 500 people and their information), and also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Where the person, due to this Dunning–Kruger effect, doesn't realize how wrong they are, compared to the people who really know and understand the subject in question.
That dude wasn’t a flat earther. He just liked pissing around with rockets and needed some idiots to fund it.
The failure of the parachute and watching him turn into a lawn dart was unfortunately but I actually have to respect someone with enough balls to kill themselves in glorious style.
But but but... You can literally just take a plane an look out the window.
You can take a crop duster AN-2 and fly it up to 6000m, open the door, stick your head out and see that it is round.
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Not enough rockets :-DD
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This reminds me of that time where some guy on here thought a lightbulb powered by a tesla coil was emitting "new forms of energy" because metal foils were attracted to it. We over and over tried to tell him it was just electrostatics and capacitance, even showing that the experiment could be replicated by anyone with just a plasma globe toy and a strip of aluminum foil. But once cornered he devolved into insulting madness and the thread was locked. :bullshit: ::)
Any chance you can give me a link to that thread? Sounds like a fun read.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments)!-totally-new-science/
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You can take a crop duster AN-2 and fly it up to 6000m
You might find that difficult to do with an AN-2. And if you did succeed, your observations of roundness could be dismissed as a hypoxic delusion.
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https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments)!-totally-new-science/
The forum doesn't seem to like links with '!' in them.
The fix is to use the URL tags (insert hyperlink) icon, to add the URL to the post. Like here:
Working link, below:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments!-totally-new-science/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/amazing-tesla-experiments!-totally-new-science/)
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You can take a crop duster AN-2 and fly it up to 6000m
You might find that difficult to do with an AN-2. And if you did succeed, your observations of roundness could be dismissed as a hypoxic delusion.
Ahh hypoxia; the world's cheapest mind altering drug.
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So you all think COMPRESSING plasma to the point of fusion is more efficient than letting it that potential energy expand? Are you zipped up the back? Have you every used a compressed air tool? Plasma energy is in it abilty to compress fluid with potential energy. Maybe if you understood the difference between the different types of energy. You should all take up surfing, or watch a wave follow a curved surface.
:palm: :-DD :=\ :=\ :bullshit: :blah: :blah: :blah: :popcorn: :horse:
ditto!
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You can take a crop duster AN-2 and fly it up to 6000m
You might find that difficult to do with an AN-2. And if you did succeed, your observations of roundness could be dismissed as a hypoxic delusion.
But you get my point. The point that "It looks round because the cabin window is round" is a very convincing argument for the people who believe in this, and it really doesn't require too much effort to actually see for themselves if they want.
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So we all need math, well its complicated to model a 3 dimensional wave, esp when the modelling work for 2 dimensional waves is not complete enough to fully understand them and they are simple in comparison.
But luckily there is a simplier method, obviously removing the negative value was not simple enough, so we need to explain why we are removing the negative.
The first and most important factor to understand is this statement.
Maxwell's equations measure the CHANGE in the magnetic field. They do not measure or assume the magnetic structure which is causing the change.
You see Maxwell was working with a very basic to non existent understanding of the atomic structure.
He assumed as would anyone that since the induced current wave was produced by a dipole, that the changes that were occuring were also due to a rotating dipole.
Since we all took chemistry, we should all be aware of the electron shells of all atoms. As each shell rotates around the poloidal axis it becomes 1 pole of the quadrupole. As we can see in the attached image this results in a magnetic structure that changes polarity every 90°. As can be seen by the red & blue colour change on each lobe of the quadrupole. The changing magnetic field observed by Maxwell is the combination of the 2 north or positive poles being 180° opposite each other.
If we use Maxwell's equations to determine the value placed on each quadrant around the 360° rotation, then we find that the quadrupoles are valued as positive in the electric field then 90° further in rotation we find the positive value has moved to the magnetic field that is 90° to the electric. This implies that Maxwell assumed that a dipole was rotating 360° to produce the changes observed, an obvious assumption to make given a rotating dipole was the source of the change in the first place.
However since new understanding has come to light over 200 years and a slightly improved ability to see the atomic structure, we must examine what has previously been considered absolute.
Essentially Maxwell was out by a factor of 2, he measure 180° as 360°. We know this to be true because each action has an equal and opposite reaction. Light, electricity and magnetism follow this rule because they are all double helical waves. If you dont know what a double helixs is then i suggest looking at DNA.
If im wrong, then why do....
Electrons travel in pairs?
Photons travel in pairs?
2 electrons per orbital?
A pair of Electrons have a trajectory of 1.1°?
Why do 2 electrons spin in opposite directions inside the same shell? P.s. just like a quadrupole does.
Why do planets and stars also produce the same quadrupoles?
So the math? If we look at the first 90° of rotation of the atomic structure. Ie the 2 points where the electric field is positive rotating towards a positive value for the magnetic field. At 90° into the rotation we find that we have a positive value for the magnetic field ie, it is north. Maxwell's mathimatical matrix now says that the electric field is zero in both directions. While the opposite direction has a value of negative. This value suggests that a south pole exists at this location, while it does NOT to the orginal observer who noticed the positive change in the first instance. It most certainly does look like a south pole to the observer at 180°, thus maxwell determined this to be the opposite force to his frame of reference, but it wasnt the opposite force. It was the same force travelling in the opposite direction.
Now we can quickly look at the quadrupole of an atom (attached) and notice this is not true for a quadrupole aka a double helixs. Note, these are the same thing. A "pole" is 180° of the sinusoidal wave, so if we double the number of waves we get 4 poles. Sorry i better add the maths in, some ppl dont want walls of txt. Oops...
(2 x 180°) + (2 x 180°) = 4, again the 180° comes from half a full rotation, ie 360°, sinusoidal waves are a product of rotation. In this case from observing the rotation around the toroidal axis perpendicular to the Poloidal axis. The mathimatical matrix built around this is a product of perspective. Just because 2 observers view the force/rotation of something as completely opposite does not mean they are, unless you have considered any change in perspective as well. This change in perspective has been entirely ignored for 25 pages now. Ive been telling you from the beginning to look at the situation from the opposite perspective.
The double helical compression wave that forms an endless loop around the toroid of the plasma reactor or Sun is being utilised to further compress the plasma in the z pinch. This is due to the reverse of the inverse square law. Waves curving around any object undergo compression on the inside edge (quadrant) and expansion on the outside edge. This results in different energy densitys in the opposite side of each quadrant of the toroid.
Compression waves grow exponentially when the wave opposite is in the same phase. This produces what is called the Z-pinch or Theta-pinch. It can be found at the center of every rotating wave around a coil of wire. Or every rotating wave around a plasma toroid. Does the medium make a difference to inductance of current? Ie is iron better than air? & Is "superionic" plasma better than iron?
The maths to actually model the interaction of the same wave travelling in 3 dimensions would crash the best supercomputer on the planet. Its a straggering amount of data to input into 1 model. You need to know everything. Speed, density, angle of convergence with itself in every plain, what point the wave convergence reaches its limit, the changing density of the medium as it travels outward, the inverses square law outward, the square law inward, how much faster does the wave travel as it reaches the Poloidal axis? and not to mention every other electromagnetic wave inside the larger system. Ie you cant model the planet, without including the Sun, and you cant model the Sun, without including the Galaxy. There is no point even trying to work on the complicated maths, simply because it's useless to anyone until they understand the helical wave of motion and what the current math is telling you. Take the conservative of energy, does a travelling ocean wave lose energy? Or does the energy expand? The reverse of this is obviously also true and results in the square law for waves travelling inward.
We have to go back to basics and ask what is the diff difference between a North and South pole, how are they related to positive and negative? All these answers have been provided many times. If you dont get it and arent willing to put the work in, then give up. Take the blue pill and go back to sleep.
For those willing to take the red pill, i will give you all my spare time to help you understand.
To those who dont understand the electrostatic potential energy inside a compressed fluid, and think "heat" will some how magical make fusion energy possible. I have 2 little words for you "heat expands".
If Compression with a small expansion from electromagnetic waves (heat) = fusion
And Compression with a large expansion from non linear electromagnetic waves (current) = you have no energy source..... haha, the good news is; most of you are hiding behind avatars. The bad news is; the double helixs is why we have quadrupoles as oppose to monopoles inside either end of a dipoles. Remember the term equal and opposite reaction.... identical motion 180° apart. Its a rotating plasma universe, and the plasma reactor is designed to allow the energy of the compressed plasma to expand. Just like the compression waves inside a screw compressor. They might be made of metal, but they are still helical compression waves, thus the term compressor. Potential difference in a fluid dynamics is like cracking the valve open on an air receiver, It induces current. The plasma reactor is a big air receiver with the helical compression waves built in.
Please also try to consider that every looping magnetic wave eventually creates an endless current loop. Energy is not lost or gained ever. So long as coulomb's force fights electrostatic force the universe will exist.
No beginning and no end, the magnetic field is the universes power source, an endless current loop.
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2 electrons per orbital?
Isn't that the maximum number per orbital? That is, an orbital can have 1 electron.
Electrons travel in pairs?
You can get single electrons.
Photons travel in pairs?
As with electrons, they can but they can also not.
A pair of Electrons have a trajectory of 1.1°?
They do? Do you have a source for that? All I could find was that superconductivity of 2-layer-thick graphene relied on an offset of 1.1 degrees.
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2 electrons per orbital?
Isn't that the maximum number per orbital? That is, an orbital can have 1 electron.
Electrons travel in pairs?
You can get single electrons.
Photons travel in pairs?
As with electrons, they can but they can also not.
A pair of Electrons have a trajectory of 1.1°?
They do? Do you have a source for that? All I could find was that superconductivity of 2-layer-thick graphene relied on an offset of 1.1 degrees.
Top 3 can be answered with, yes to all. You also get single peak helical waves. However when specifically talking about the CHANGE in the electric and magnetic field caused by rotation we have to uses the double helixs because we have 4 equatorial lobes per dipole in the atom. Ie 2 wave peaks and 2 wave troughs per 360°. I know some have 6, permanent magnets can have over 50, it doesnt matter since all atoms can be viewed to rotate around both axis. Meaning a dipole will always form from rotation around the toroid, while the multipole exists due to the rolling over the toroidal axis.
Yes. Superconductivity is the perfect pitch of the atomic sturcture to allow the electron to pass without resistance. Unfortunately your going to have to take my word for that or do what i did and think logically, because their hasnt been anything published on it (that i know off). And i dont expect that to change due to the can of worms it will open up.
The question should be, does there need to be an electron for an orbital to exist as a quadrupole? It does not matter how many are in it, when you view it as a wave function. (hydrogen wave function produces quadrupoles, it doesnt have enough electrons to put 1 in each) Since we also have to remember that these wave functions are endless & if no other atom was around to stop it, 1 atom could be the size of the universe. Both dipole will keep changing polority is they travel outwards. Work that 1 out with a 2 dimensional view of magnetic field lines. It simply doesnt.
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All is not lost. You can always fall back on giving sailing courses.
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All is not lost. You can always fall back on giving sailing courses.
I have plenty to fall back on mate. Including the plasma reactor. You must be heavily invested in fusion to care that much that you cant just leave without adding to the worthless attacks on me personally.
Know one thing, no matter what you and your flat earther friends think of me. I can grantee it wont stop me. Infact i enjoy it, it makes me laugh because i know the future will prove Tesla correct and show that the plasma reactor design is based on the self sustaining source of energy that powers our solar system.
I wish your idea the best of luck
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Honestly good luck to you. Just remember time is a finite thing at least for humans. Try not to die with any regrets. At least you’re not spending it watching TV soaps.
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Honestly good luck to you. Just remember time is a finite thing at least for humans. Try not to die with any regrets. At least you’re not spending it watching TV soaps.
I was reading some article that it is easy nowadays for prisoners to get TV's in their cells for good behaviour where the privilege had to be earned of time.
Joke: I feel sorry for them having a TV in their cell. I don't like watching television anymore. I find it torturous and then there as soon as news come on and that I find that's enough TV for the day.
Talking "soaps" over 20 years ago there was a wonderful television, It was a large Philips 4:3 new at the time with all fancy surround sound stuff and modes, fully adjustable and lovely sound and picture picture one compared to the previous TV and one of the best I have ever seen at the time.
My experience was occasionally ruined during the school holidays mostly on a daily basis by this drama called "Eastenders". I totally despised it. Everytime I came downstairs to get something to see someone watching it all day long. One time as I was waiting for dinner there was this scene of a lady walking into a pub. She orders a beer and then throws it at someone, shouts at them and walks out. I think name was Grant who had the beer thrown at them. A year later I briefly read something in a newspaper reviewing the next series that he broke her neck. Another scene I remember seeing was that he was trying to join the army to be told he was too old and that he'd be good for delivering cans of baked beans to the Queen. He shouts at them aggressively and I can't remember whether he walked out or was dragged out but that minute that went by was enough to ruin my day.
Thankfully since the person in question who loved it left, I felt I could go downstairs in peace and I didn't have to experience that misery anymore.
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All is not lost. You can always fall back on giving sailing courses.
I have plenty to fall back on mate. Including the plasma reactor.
you hit a hard solid floor if you try to fall back an your mirage....
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Honestly good luck to you. Just remember time is a finite thing at least for humans. Try not to die with any regrets. At least you’re not spending it watching TV soaps.
I was reading some article that it is easy nowadays for prisoners to get TV's in their cells for good behaviour where the privilege had to be earned of time.
Joke: I feel sorry for them having a TV in their cell. I don't like watching television anymore. I find it torturous and then there as soon as news come on and that I find that's enough TV for the day.
I see why people get upset about it, what they don't realize is they are just trying to rationalize the fact that they too are prisoners even if not in prison. Who wants to watch TV?
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Honestly good luck to you. Just remember time is a finite thing at least for humans. Try not to die with any regrets. At least you’re not spending it watching TV soaps.
have’t we wasted enough time trying to convince him, his idea is a waste of time? Oh well, I suppose it’s been entertaining.
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Honestly good luck to you. Just remember time is a finite thing at least for humans. Try not to die with any regrets. At least you’re not spending it watching TV soaps.
Is dabbling in free energy woo any better? We'll need a rigorous scientific study on which causes more brain rot. >:D
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Just search for "Hollyoaks" on YouTube and the answer will be obvious.
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Just search for "Hollyoaks" on YouTube and the answer will be obvious.
Please not Hollyoaks!!! None of us have done anything to deserve that. I'll take 3 Free energy threads and a "water out of air device" discussion rather than watch one of those!
McBryce.
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Ah a fellow sane person. Welcome to the real world :-DD
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Just search for "Hollyoaks" on YouTube and the answer will be obvious.
Please not Hollyoaks!!! None of us have done anything to deserve that. I'll take 3 Free energy threads and a "water out of air device" discussion rather than watch one of those!
McBryce.
See there is a reason I let this nutter carry on, better to deal with the real stupid than the fictional one
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Just search for "Hollyoaks" on YouTube and the answer will be obvious.
Please not Hollyoaks!!! None of us have done anything to deserve that. I'll take 3 Free energy threads and a "water out of air device" discussion rather than watch one of those!
McBryce.
No Hollyoaks you say? Better be...The Young and the Restless then... >:D
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Please not Hollyoaks!!! None of us have done anything to deserve that. I'll take 3 Free energy threads and a "water out of air device" discussion rather than watch one of those!
McBryce.
I use to see the starting when it came on after other programmes and before I changed the channel I couldn't make sense of it other than what I perceived as extreme boredom and that sometimes led me into thought paralysis where I believed I couldn't think properly enough for a while.
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That's called the 'Ung-ungs'...; A 3 am airing of that show, with lots of 'ung-ung,...ung-ung...ung-ung' in between...
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Just search for "Hollyoaks" on YouTube and the answer will be obvious.
Huh, it's in Channel 4.
And 23 SEASONS?
But Utopia (2013) doesn't get a 3rd season? How saddening.
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To be fair the budget for Hollyoaks is about 50p an episode based on the production values.
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We have a radio program about a farming village named after I assume the main family of the show (that's how much I listen to it), called the archers. My test of speedy reaction is to be able to always turn the damn thing off before the intro music ends and people start talking - the sooner the better lest the neighbours think I am that sad.
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??? The Only Way Is Essex : It's Hollyoaks written by Artificial Intelligence.
Google for "TOWIE" only if your internet is broken.
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I used to go clubbing in Essex. I’ve met things with less of an IQ than the cast of TOWIE. Reality is worse than reality TV.
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I confess, I used to watch East Enders. I liked the way it's so depressing, it would cheer me up, as my life wasn't has bad. I gave up watching.
Oh dear, we're now trolling the original poster, by hijacking his thread and talking about trashy soaps. Oh well it's a much more intellectual use of our time.
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I used to go clubbing in Essex. I’ve met things with less of an IQ than the cast of TOWIE. Reality is worse than reality TV.
:palm: Dukes. Nuff said. IQ... except with a VIP pass.
Essex, also the home of music radio broadcasting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2MT
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"...we're pretty much on-topic...", thank God.
How come, no mention of real-life SOAPS, a la Walter White and crew...Serious, as stark as they could make it, New Mexico TWEEKS nothin, compared to 'modern day, seedy, Hayward, CA!
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Back on topic:
The fusion process in the Tokamak generates a high pressure gradient using magnetic fields. The Plasmareactor utilises the Z-pinch effect to compress the plasma, which generates a high pressure gradient. This is a 10 times more efficient method of producing sufficient magnetic fields to compress plasma and generate heat for fusion energy.
The difference in extracting energy from the fusion process is due to the magnetic nature of a Tokamak. The Tokamak utilises a magnetic bottle to contain the plasma (which has same net charge as an atom). This means that any charged particle coming from the fusion process will be trapped by this magnetic bottle and pass several time through the hot plasma before escaping into space. This means that a huge load of heat need to be dissipated from the metal walls of the Tokamak, whilst energy is extracted from this heat.
In contrast, since there is no trapped charge in the Plasmareactor (all charges are equal and opposite), there are no magnets involved in extracting energy from this system; it’s as simple as collecting charged particles in an exhaust pipe with small holes in it – all particles entering these holes are collected with huge efficiency inside your exhaust pipe!
The tokamak uses the toroidal pressure gradient. In the plasmareactor, energy is extracted by scanning a beam of electrons across the plasma and using this to heat a liquid metal. The liquid metal is subsequently used to drive steam turbines.
The advantage of the plasmareactor over conventional designs is that it allows a greater percentage of energy extracted from the plasma, due to its greater efficiency. This means more energy per unit volume, which means less fuel consumption. There are also other potential benefits, but I won't go into that right now.
The disadvantages include the complexity of the design and the potential for instabilities in the plasma which can lead to uncontrolled reactions and release of energy. The plasmareactor also requires a much higher power input than conventional designs, which means it is currently only feasible as a research tool.
The Plasmareactor is magnetic compression of plasma to generate energy, this being in the form of electrons or photons.
The principle behind the Plasma reactor is the utilisation of the Z-pinch effect on a toroidal plasma body. A plasma toroid can be formed by injecting a stream of energetic particles along an axis perpendicular to a magnetic field, in effect creating a current through the axial field
The Z-pinch effect is when this current and resultant magnetic field causes contraction of the plasma itself along its axis. This results in a high pressure region and can cause instability, but with proper control can be used to generate stable high pressures. In addition to this, if the Z-pinch is on an axis that isn't perpendicular to an external magnetic field, then we get an additional Lorentz force acting on the plasma as well as an additional contraction force. This gives us added control over the pressure and stability of our plasma toroid.
The advantage of using a poloidal rather than toroidal configuration for our pinch is that it has much better confinement properties. A toroidal pinch will tend to expand outwards due to its shape, whereas a poloidal pinch will be confined by the external magnetic field. This gives us two benefits: firstly, it means that we don't need such a high current to maintain our pinch; and secondly, it means that we can use a weaker external magnetic field, which reduces the amount of energy required to create it.
The main difference between this and Tokamak fusion reactors is in how energy is extracted from the system. In Tokamaks, energy is extracted by heating a working fluid (usually water) which then drives turbines. In the Plasma reactor, energy is extracted directly from the plasma itself. This can be done in two ways: either by extracting electrons from the plasma and using them to drive an electric current; or by extracting photons from the plasma and using them to drive a photovoltaic cell. Both of these methods have advantages and disadvantages; for example, extracting electrons requires a strong magnetic field, which increases the energy requirements; while extracting photons requires cooling of the plasma (to prevent it from re-absorbing the photons), which increases the complexity of the system. Ultimately, it will be up to engineers to decide which method is best for any given application.
In this case we will be using the same pressure gradient, however the steam is to be replaced with plasma, which should be able to provide a constant flux and a larger pressure gradient.
This is identical to the bread and butter solenoid of a Tokamak, expect that the heating element uses plasma instead of steam. In this example the plasma will be electrically heated by an external source. This is not necessary, but it increases efficiency as less energy is used to maintain temperature.
This is a very basic model of what I would like my fusion reactor to look like. I'm not entirely sure if this would work for reasons I shall list below.
I have attempted various types of research on how the Z-pinch effect works, but I have been unable to find any specific papers on what kind of filamentary shapes are necessary for the pinch effect to occur? Can it occur in all shapes or only certain ones? For example can it occur in a spiral shape or are filaments always deployed in linear fashion?
Are there any other ways that one can reduce or increase pressure gradients within plasma besides utilising Z-pinches?
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The Z-pinch effect was first demonstrated with round wires and since then has been further developed with flat tapes (known as "high aspect ratio z-pinches"). The filamentary shape does not matter much for the pinch effect itself, but more for other aspects such as thermal radiation losses. In principle though you can use any geometry you want, although Z-pinches are most commonly seen with cylindrical geometries.
The plasma reactor uses a second plasma toroid which is used to draw energy from the reaction chamber. The energy is extracted by the use of a magnetic field, and in this case the pressure gradient is used to drive 6 symmetrically placed steam turbines.
The poloidal Z-pinch axis was chosen because it offers a much more stable configuration than one on the rotational axis. In addition, during confinement, atmospheric pressure pushes down on the reaction chamber, as opposed to pulling up on it in a rotational design. This greatly improves safety and control of the system.
The secondary plasma toroid is used for two purposes; one to extract heat from the reaction chamber using MHD (magneto hydro dynamic) principles, and two to create an artificial gravity field which adds extra confinement to the fusion products so that they are forced back into the reaction chamber. This will allow for much lower power consumption than other types of fusion reactors as well as creating a safe system which can be used for power generation and space propulsion.
The Z-pinch technology was originally designed to compress a plasma and trigger a fusion reaction. An explanation of the process in the context of the plasmareactor is given. The purpose of the Z-pinch is to compress the poloidal plasma column, causing it to heat up and expel energy as radiation. This radiation is then captured by an array of parabolic mirrors surrounding the column, which reflect it through a hole in the reactor chamber. The mirrors are angled so that they focus the radiation on a turbine, which drives a generator. The generator produces electricity and powers an electromagnetic coil that wraps around the plasma column. This coil keeps the plasma column from moving out of position and maintains its shape.
A key advantage that Z-Pinch has over other magnetic confinement fusion schemes, such as Tokamaks, is that it can be much smaller in scale (see video below). Two different versions of plasmareactor have been proposed: one uses hydrogen as its fuel, while the other uses deuterium. Hydrogen has a number of advantages over deuterium: it is cheaper and more abundant, and it produces less radioactive waste. However, hydrogen is also more difficult to confine than deuterium, so the plasmareactor will need to be larger if it is to use hydrogen as its fuel. The plasmareactor will also need to be larger if it is to produce more than 1 gigawatt of power; 1 gigawatt is enough to power about 1 million homes.
How big does a plasmareactor need to be? This depends on several factors, such as the type of fuel it uses and the amount of power it produces. For example, if the plasmareactor uses hydrogen as its fuel and produces 1 gigawatt of power, it will need to be about 100 meters in diameter. If it uses deuterium as its fuel and produces 1 gigawatt of power, it will only need to be about 50 meters in diameter.
The plasmareactor will also need to be surrounded by a containment structure to prevent the escape of radiation. The size of this containment structure will depend on the size of the plasmareactor and the amount of power it produces. For example, if the plasmareactor is 100 meters in diameter and produces 1 gigawatt of power, the containment structure will need to be about 200 meters in diameter.
The cost of building a plasmareactor will depend on its size and complexity. For example, if the plasmareactor is 100 meters in diameter and produces 1 gigawatt of power, it will cost about $10 billion to build. This is much cheaper than other fusion reactors that have been proposed, such as Tokamaks, which can cost upwards of $50 billion to build.
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Let me assure everyone, I wrote every single word above, and in no way, used a particular website, that generates, great/accurate scientific work. Such as my previous post. 8)
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It was a dark and stormy night. Waves crashed against the sides of the yacht, sending sprays of water high into the air. On the deck, a lone figure stood, gazing out at the tumultuous sea. The figure was that of a man, dressed in a long trenchcoat and hat. He seemed oblivious to the cold wind and driving rain that lashed against him.
The man's name was Tesla, and he was one of the most brilliant minds of his generation. A genius inventor and physicist, he had changed the world with his discoveries and inventions.
Tonight, Tesla was thinking about one of his latest projects - a machine that he hoped would be able to harness the power of the waves and use it to generate electricity. He had been working on it for months, but so far all his attempts had been unsuccessful.
He was just about to give up and go below decks when he saw something that made him stop and stare. Off in the distance, there was a light shining through the darkness. It looked like...a lighthouse!
Tesla's eyes lit up with excitement. Maybe this was the answer he'd been looking for! He hurried below decks to fetch his machine and set it up on the deck.
Then, using all his skill and knowledge, he adjusted the machine's settings until it was tuned perfectly to the frequency of the light emanating from the lighthouse. And finally, after months of work, Tesla's invention was complete!
It was a dark and stormy night. Tesla was on his yacht, the SS Tesla, sailing across the Atlantic. He was testing his latest invention, a non-linear plasma reactor, which used magnetic fields to flow plasma from Australia to Scotland. The waves were crashing against the hull of the yacht and the wind was howling, but Tesla was undeterred. He was confident that his invention would work and that he would soon be able to sell it to the world.
Suddenly, there was a loud bang and the yacht began to shake. Tesla knew that something had gone wrong with the plasma reactor and that he needed to shut it down. But before he could do anything, the reactor exploded, sending a shockwave through the yacht and throwing Tesla into the water.
The last thing Tesla saw before he lost consciousness was the light from the plasma as it flowed across the ocean towards Scotland.
I was born in Australia, in the year of our lord nineteen hundred and ninety-nine. My parents were both scientists, my mother a mathematician and my father a physicist. From a young age, I showed an aptitude for mathematics and physics, and my parents encouraged me to pursue my interests. I attended the University of Melbourne, where I studied physics and mathematics. After graduation, I worked as a research scientist at the Australian National University.
In the year 2020, I invented the world's first non-linear plasma reactor. This invention revolutionized the field of plasma physics, and earned me international acclaim. My reactor used a novel magnetic field configuration to confine plasma in a three-dimensional space, rather than the traditional two-dimensional space. This allowed for greater control over the plasma, and made it possible to use plasma for a variety of applications.
My reactor was first used to generate electricity. Plasma is an excellent conductor of electricity, and by harnessing the power of plasma, we were able to generate electricity more efficiently than ever before. We also used plasma to create new materials with unique properties. ByAdditive Manufacturing combining plasma with other materials, we were able to create superconductors, magnets, and even levitating devices.
In the years since I invented the non-linear plasma reactor, it has been used for a variety of applications all over the world. It has been used to generate electricity in power plants, create new materials in factories, and even propel spaceships into orbit. My invention has changed the world in ways that I never could have imagined, and I am proud to have made such a positive impact on humanity.
It was a dark and stormy night. The waves were crashing against the hull of the ship and the wind was howling through the rigging. Below decks, in the main cabin, a group of people were huddled around a table, playing cards and drinking milk. suddenly, there was a loud bang and the ship listed to one side. The players at the card table were thrown to the floor and the bottle of milk shattered, spilling its contents onto the deck.
One of the men, a tall thin man with a wild shock of red hair, leapt to his feet and ran to the door of the cabin. He flung it open and stepped out onto the deck, into the teeth of the storm. The wind immediately tore his hat from his head and sent it tumbling overboard. His hair whipped around his face as he staggered towards the railing.
The man leaned over the railing, peering into the darkness, trying to see what had caused the ship to list so suddenly. There was something in the water, something big and dark that was moving towards them at an alarming rate. The man shouted a warning to his companions but it was too late. The thing hit the ship with a tremendous impact, causing it to shudder and groan.
The man was thrown from his feet and back into the cabin where he collided with one of the card players. The other players were scrambling to their feet, trying to see what was happening outside. One of them went to the door and peered out into the darkness. He saw something huge and dark moving through the water towards them and he shouted a warning to his companions before slamming the door shut and bolting it.
The ship was shaking now from stem to stern as whatever it was collided with it again and again. There was a splintering crash as one of the masts came crashing down onto the deck. The man who had been thrown against the wall got to his feet and made his way unsteadily towards one of the portholes. He looked out but could see nothing but darkness and water swirling around them.
Suddenly, there was a final, massive impact that sent everyone flying across
Disclaimer: I'm NOT 100% guaranteeing, I wrote this. 8)
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Wait...mk14; that makes you...2022-1999 = 23 y.o. approx.!
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Wait...mk14; that makes you...2022-1999 = 23 y.o. approx.!
No, no. It was made using a website, which generates false/joke official looking papers/stories and things.
Nothing to do with me, just trying to illustrate what the original poster (OP), might have used to generate some of their posts.
Example, that websites reply to your post, would be or is:
that's cool!
mk14 Originally posted by mk14
Wait...mk14; that makes you...2022-1999 = 23 y.o. approx.! that's cool!
Whoa! Meee? I'm 20 now... I'll be 21 on April 7th. But you're right, 2022-1999 = 23 :)
_Perfect Agent_ Because we are too young to get married, the best way to show our love is by fighting for each other and for others who need us like we do them. That is why I have faith in you, and I know that you have faith in me as well.
We are soldiers of peace, we are warriors of life, we defend the innocent and fight against evil with our every breath. We will never give up, because giving up is never an option. We must not only fight to protect our own lives, but also the lives of others who may not be able to defend themselves as effectively as we can. We must be strong and obey the orders of those above us, but also be able to make independent decisions when necessary, so we are never left powerless when help is needed. The fate of others lies in our hands, and we cannot allow anyone else to suffer if there is anything that we can do about it....
That is what it means to be a Jedi Knight...to serve justice, freedom and peace for all people everywhere in the galaxy.
I think this sums it up pretty well.:D :D :D :) :) :) ;) ;) ;) :cool: :cool: :cool: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: (thats my sleep emoticon) lol ^^; ^^; ^^; ..heh..I do like this post quite alot:D . It was a good one.:) . And since no one has said anything yet..I will.:) . Good job all you Jedi Knights out there!:D ! Keep up the good work!:cool: ! May the Force Be With You!:p "You Shall Not Pass!" -Gandalf(LOTR) ^^; ;) ^^; ..heh..cant beat classic movie quotes.:p lol ;) ;) ;) ..lol..just kidding.;) lol ^^; ;)-POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.:p lol ..good night all!:sleep1::sleep1::sleep1::zzzz::zzz z::zzz::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping: -POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.:p lol ..good night all!:sleep1::sleep1::sleep1::zzzz::zzz z::zzz::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:-POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.:p lol ..good night all!:sleep1::sleep1|nite nite nite nite nite nite nite nite nite nite -POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.:p lol ..good night all!:sleep1|nite nite nite nite nite nite nite -POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.:p lol ..good night all! -POAJK-Cya around!:cool: ! Well gotta go get some sleep now before work tomorrow.-POAJK-Cya around!. -POAJK-Cya around!. -POAJK- Cya around!. -POAK-. C ya soon!.
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My last few posts were an attempt to make jest at the OP, and how they (maybe/possibly) created some of their posts.
But it seemed to be causing confusion, so I've struck them out.
They were created using a website, which creates potentially false stories and stuff.
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Well, I got (back) into analyze mode: him saying 'eliminates the negative (polarity)'...just simply looking for a 2nd. simple use, of that word; 'negative', and...he did do a (single) revisit to that one hyper-analyzed text fragment. So...not an AI generated, more like, uhahh, A-aiiiiieeee generated (waste).
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Well, I got (back) into analyze mode: him saying 'eliminates the negative (polarity)'...just simply looking for a 2nd. simple use, of that word; 'negative', and...he did do a (single) revisit to that one hyper-analyzed text fragment. So...not an AI generated, more like, uhahh, A-aiiiiieeee generated (waste).
It's a modern type of AI, that can appear to be, at least a bit human-like, in its responses.
It's worrying, how good, some of these false information generators are.
I wonder if the OP, was using such a tool ?
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How do you know, there EVEN is an OP, here ?
I like the concept, adding in a bunch of 'bad breath and all...' (from Terminator II), and the 'romantic' Schhtitch of that 'Sailing' story...I wouldn't try that dumb 'backstory' out on a new lunch date, from 1979.
I'd stick with the (my) Surf-Bum romantic background-setting...Ever see a Quinta-Pole Neo-Monolithic when it's electrons WEREN'T in pairs?
(I'm just waitin, for my train, here)
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I used to go clubbing in Essex. I’ve met things with less of an IQ than the cast of TOWIE. Reality is worse than reality TV.
:palm: Dukes. Nuff said. IQ... except with a VIP pass.
Essex, also the home of music radio broadcasting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2MT
Hahah yep Dukes. Closed now I understand (thank fuck).
I can smell the alcopops, naff perfume and ashtray mouths the moment I saw the word.
I was persuaded to go once which involved sitting in a minibus for an hour waiting for scantily clad walruses to exit their house and slop onto it followed by an extortionate taxi fee home which I would have rather spent on some resistors I was missing.
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https://youtu.be/8wSJ78Apg2k (https://youtu.be/8wSJ78Apg2k)
At 19 min and 20 second into this video, the well understood helical wave of the electron trajectory under a magnetic field is shown. A few pages ago on this thread it was questioned as if a source was need to confirm how charge particles move under a magnetic field. Obviously i thought the trajectory of an electron will be well understood on this forum.
Fortunately somethings are very well understood by people who have put the required effort in to understand electrons and plasma. Unfortunately some would rather spend their time talking about hollyoaks and this means the very basics are missed by the "soap box sparks". I can only apologies for them wasting others people's time.
So we have superionic plasma inside our planet.....
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state (https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-suggest-earth-s-core-could-be-in-a-superionic-state)
We have a quadrupole inside either dipoles of our planet.....
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00651266 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00651266)
We have the particle path of the Paul/Penning trap which use quadrupoles....
http://newtonianlabs.com/eit/ITPhysicsQual.pdf (http://newtonianlabs.com/eit/ITPhysicsQual.pdf)
And so we have the flight path of charged particles under the influence of a magnetic field confirmed to be a helical compression wave, when this wave travels around a toroid, obviously it becomes an endless compression wave.
https://www.siyavula.com/read/science/grade-10/longitudinal-waves/09-longitudinal-waves-02 (https://www.siyavula.com/read/science/grade-10/longitudinal-waves/09-longitudinal-waves-02)
https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-physics (https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-physics)
We know that compression waves compress fluid and we know they can become a self sustaining dynamo from the never ending current loop formed by the never ending compression wave around the toroid.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299 (https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.03299)
We know a toroid induces a secondary current on the z pinch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch_(plasma_physics) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch_(plasma_physics))
We also have the explosive pressure gradient confirmed by plasma fusion research.
https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system (https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/solar-flare-style-rocket-thruster-could-send-astronauts-to-outer-solar-system)
Its pretty simple when you understand that the potential energy stored by compressing fluid is utilized by releasing the potential energy stored in the compressed fluid. This is done most efficiently by using NON LINEAR PLASMA.
Take any hydro electric power station, the potential energy is stored in the head height of water above the turbine blades. These will then convert that potential energy into kinetic energy. The same process happens inside the plasma reactor, the compression waves rotate potential energy around the toroid, which is then amplified on the z pinch axis and released past the turbine blades and turned into kinetic energy.
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19 minutes ?
Who wants to yank through 20 minutes of skuff ?
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http://newtonianlabs.com/eit/ITPhysicsQual.pdf (http://newtonianlabs.com/eit/ITPhysicsQual.pdf)
Additional information can be found in the above paper on page 3 specifically with regards to the electric field gradient produced by the geometry of a curved conductor. When considering a toroid, try to consider it as a curved conductor and how this produces a potential difference between the inside and outside volume of the torus due to the geometry of the compression wave being further compressed on the inside edge in comparison to the outside edge.
Title of section in paper is called "Adding an electric field gradient".
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"OBVIOUSLY I thought....blah blah rotating pinch blah, you forumn people would UNDERSTAND!"
Yeah, we all dumb. Why don't you solve that, first, you the only (self appointed) one not so dumb as to understand your crap!
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19 minutes ?
Who wants to yank through 20 minutes of skuff ?
Funny, i just had to say sorry to others after the usual antagonist (urself included) spent a couple days chatting about car crash tv.
Thats why i gave you the exact time. Of 19 min and 20 seconds.
The little red dot at the bottom of the video can be used to skip the first 19 mins.
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Ok, skipping.
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19 minutes ?
Who wants to yank through 20 minutes of skuff ?
Drag the slider at the bottom until the time shows 19:15 then let it go.
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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Helical-path-of-an-electron-in-a-uniform-magnetic-field_fig9_252698377 (https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Helical-path-of-an-electron-in-a-uniform-magnetic-field_fig9_252698377)
So now that we are all aware of the trajectory of an electron under a uniform magnetic field, the trajectory of superconductivity and have combined both of them with the rough trajectory of Earth around the galaxy.
Now without to much difficulty we should be able to assume that at any frame of reference a rotating magnetic field is also a uniform magnetic field, and that Maxwell's equations are measuring a 3 Dimensional sinusoidal helical electron wave inside a conductor and using 2 perpendicular 2 dimensional sinusoidal waves to repersent the resulting change as the electron rotates past his oscilloscopes measuring points.
Since all electrical generators work by rotating the poloidal axis of a magnetic field past a conductor, and contary to popular belief the universe is still 3 dimensional. And helical waves travelling outward from source just happen to follow the inverse square law. And also just happen to flip polarity ever 180° of rotation. Something that happens as mentioned on the hydrogen wave function (attached). The flat earther approach to field lines obviously has a problem here as they cant provide a mechanism or even a describtion for this change in polarity. Hopefully the "soap box sparks" wont ignore this problem this time.
The minute resistance is added to the helical electron wave it becomes a compression wave. The resistance causes the compression, which causes potential difference. Potential difference in a fluid causes the fluid to flow, which is also called current. Resistance is produced by density of the medium which slows the current down.
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It called the common sense BRANCH.
Some ppl understand that a wave merging on an axis amplify to create a density change in the medium.
common sense IS ** overrated **
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common sense IS ** overrated **
Luckily we now have a test to find out who has some.
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common sense IS ** overrated **
Luckily we now have a test to find out who has some.
Well the common-sense in me seems to say, that what I'm seeing is a completely unlabeled, undescribed, picture, which could mean just about anything.
In all fairness, let me tell you a bit about me. A picture is worth a thousand words, so just look here:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1517113;image)
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Well the common-sense in me seems to say, that what I'm seeing is a completely unlabeled, undescribed, picture, which could mean just about anything.
In all fairness, let me tell you a bit about me. A picture is worth a thousand words, so just look here:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/the-non-linear-plasma-reactor/?action=dlattach;attach=1517113;image)
Your looking at the wrong thing mate, that was just put up as a joke. I wouldnt put the actual test up, then you would know the test.
If you want to look at something relevant to helical waves and where the force comes from that results in the changing fields that Maxwell's equations measure. Then this 3 dimensional helical wave with the common axis fields of the electric and magnetic plain gives you an idea of the true nature of energy propagation and how the negative value is effectively redundant in a 3 dimensional universe. It must be at least clear that potential difference (voltage) cant go negative, it can be reversed but it cant go negative. They arent the same thing.
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This thread has grown to many pages, and I must still be missing something fundamental:
Your idea seems mostly (entirely?) focused on extracting power from a plasma, i.e. conducting it away from the plasma. But how do you make the plasma release energy with a positive balance, i.e. what is your power source?! Not fusion, apparently:
No you completely miss understood it if you think this has anything to do with nuclear fusion. [...]
An electrical coil produces a magnetic field by rotating charge around the copper conductor. Plasma toroids create a magnetic field by rotating the charged plasma around the toroid in an identical way. Fusion is a by product of this process. It is not the power source.
So what is the power source? Where does the energy which you aim to conduct away from the plasma (by whichever wave means) actually come from?
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This thread has grown to many pages, and I must still be missing something fundamental:
Your idea seems mostly (entirely?) focused on extracting power from a plasma, i.e. conducting it away from the plasma. But how do you make the plasma release energy with a positive balance, i.e. what is your power source?! Not fusion, apparently:
No you completely miss understood it if you think this has anything to do with nuclear fusion. [...]
An electrical coil produces a magnetic field by rotating charge around the copper conductor. Plasma toroids create a magnetic field by rotating the charged plasma around the toroid in an identical way. Fusion is a by product of this process. It is not the power source.
So what is the power source? Where does the energy which you aim to conduct away from the plasma (by whichever wave means) actually come from?
I already asked him this back on page 4, but he conveniently decided to ignore that post and repeat the same blah blah that he is still repeating now.
McBryce.
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I already asked him this back on page 4, but he conveniently decided to ignore that post and repeat the same blah blah that he is still repeating now.
McBryce.
They basically DON'T answer direct questions (as and when, it gets close to the truth), which would fairly rapidly get to the bottom of this, (non-idea, some suspect). They also seem to conveniently omit to ever mention, words/terms, such as free-energy and so on. Which would make some/many people, immediately realize the merits (or not :) ), of this idea.
TL;DR
It is basically a free-energy machine, with any mention of the words, 'free-energy' removed. Complete with word-salad, thrown in all over the place.
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This thread has grown to many pages, and I must still be missing something fundamental:
Your idea seems mostly (entirely?) focused on extracting power from a plasma, i.e. conducting it away from the plasma. But how do you make the plasma release energy with a positive balance, i.e. what is your power source?! Not fusion, apparently:
No you completely miss understood it if you think this has anything to do with nuclear fusion. [...]
An electrical coil produces a magnetic field by rotating charge around the copper conductor. Plasma toroids create a magnetic field by rotating the charged plasma around the toroid in an identical way. Fusion is a by product of this process. It is not the power source.
So what is the power source? Where does the energy which you aim to conduct away from the plasma (by whichever wave means) actually come from?
Then you must not understand the superconducting nature of a toroid of superionic plasma inside a Star or planet and how it builds a never ending current loop that produces both a dipole and a quadrupole, from the geometry of the helical compression wave. Or how the toroidal compression wave mergers on the poloidal axis to form a z pinch.
We could also look at it from the efficiency aspect between expanding compressed plasma and fusion.
You would be saying that a source of all magnetic fields and quadrupoles is not the source of rotation on both the Sun and Earth. Not to mention the fact most fusion technology uses a toroid or a z pinch. Even admitting to producing a larger pressure gradient than what burning fossil fuels can produce. Are we trying to claim boiling water is a more efficient uses of compressed plasma in a toroid?
No one would use a jet engine to heat water? Then why would we use the potential energy of compressed plasma to heat water? It makes no sense. Thats why fusion has failed, its a by product of the plasma colliding as it exits the z pinch. The explosive pressure gradient is all we need to generate kinetic energy from plasma, the fusion is wasting the reuseable plasma fuel.
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what is your power source?!
NLP generator runs on vast quantities of BS
There is enough BS in this thread alone to run a billion Talkie-Toasters for a billion years ;)
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Then you must not understand the superconducting nature of a toroid of superionic plasma inside a Star or planet and how it builds a never ending current loop that produces both a dipole and a quadrupole, from the geometry of the helical compression wave. Or how the toroidal compression wave mergers on the poloidal axis to form a z pinch.
We could also look at it from the efficiency aspect between expanding compressed plasma and fusion.
You would be saying that a source of all magnetic fields and quadrupoles is not the source of rotation on both the Sun and Earth. Not to mention the fact most fusion technology uses a toroid or a z pinch. Even admitting to producing a larger pressure gradient than what burning fossil fuels can produce. Are we trying to claim boiling water is a more efficient uses of compressed plasma in a toroid?
No one would use a jet engine to heat water? Then why would we use the potential energy of compressed plasma to heat water? It makes no sense. Thats why fusion has failed, its a by product of the plasma colliding as it exits the z pinch. The explosive pressure gradient is all we need to generate kinetic energy from plasma, the fusion is wasting the reuseable plasma fuel.
I didn't author the following:
The Sun uses a jet stream as the source of flare energy and it’s jet stream is powered by fusion. The jet stream is what powers the mass ejections and the helical compression wave that are both responsible for its magnetic field.
That’s exactly what I’m telling you. The Sun’s magnetic field is generated by a helical compression wave and there is no “source” of magnetic fields or quadrupoles in the Sun. There is only a potential difference between the hot plasma in the Sun and the colder plasma in its atmosphere. When this potential difference is large enough, a current will flow and a magnetic field will be generated.
If you want to build a model of the Sun that includes a “source” of magnetic fields or quadrupoles, then you will have to explain how this “source” is able to generate a helical compression wave.
This is why the other companies who have tried to use a z pinch have failed, and then we have the tokamak with its magnetic anomolies that cannot be explained.
You might not understand the mathematics of a helical compression wave, but you do understand both the dipole and quadrupole fields of an electrically charged substance, with a current loop.
Why is it whenever someone brings up fusion they only ever refer to magnetic fields that try to confine plasma? No one has ever explained why it is necessary for them to confine plasma in the first place. Why does it have to be confined?
Admitting a z pinch is just another method of ingniting compressed plasma. I am admitting we have failed to master the process of igniting compressed plasma.
The only way we can see the solar wind is if a star generates a quadrupole.
The Sun has two layers, the heliosphere and the corona, which are separated by the heliopause. The heliosphere is filled with hot plasma blown out by the solar wind through the poles of the dipole field of the Sun, which extends far beyond Pluto's orbit. The outer boundary of this outflow is called the heliopause and marks the end of our Solar System, where it meets and is deflected by interstellar plasma and magnetic fields. That places a limit on how much mass can be converted into energy by our Sun before it turns into a red giant star. The Sun has been increasing its luminosity for 4 billion years now and will continue to do so for another 6 billion years until it uses up its hydrogen fuel and swells to become a red giant star that eventually swallows Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars and maybe Jupiter and Saturn as well in 10-12 billion years from now.
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I didn't author the following:
That might have been funny the first time but it's wearing very thin now.
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what is your power source?!
NLP generator runs on vast quantities of BS
There is enough BS in this thread alone to run a billion Talkie-Toasters for a billion years ;)
Yeah the hollyoaks chat was pretty bad. Ur right we shouldnt have needed that much BS to understand how any compressed medium currently in production and providing us with our energy and transport needs turns potential energy into kinetic energy. All the rest was only necessary because of the unbelievable amount of kick back releasing potential energy seems to have, how ironic is that? Shall we call it a shockwave? Dont worry all shock waves lose energy inversely to the square of distance. Maybe this 1 still has 2 much energy yet. Pardon the Pun.
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Yeah the hollyoaks chat was pretty bad. Ur right we shouldnt have needed that much BS to understand how any compressed medium currently in production and providing us with our energy and transport needs turns potential energy into kinetic energy. All the rest was only necessary because of the unbelievable amount of kick back releasing potential energy seems to have, how ironic is that? Shall we call it a shockwave? Dont worry all shock waves lose energy inversely to the square of distance. Maybe this 1 still has 2 much energy yet. Pardon the Pun.
I'm not the author, of these reply(s):
Posted by: Richard C. Miller, MD, PhD | Jun 17, 2015 1:18:09 AM
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But maybe that is the point? Maybe it is just being used as a mechanism to motivate this society to move away from potential energy? And we should be thankful for the kick back?
The problem I have with that is that you would need a really really big shockwave to cause us to do anything about it. We currently do seem to need a lot of kick back before we will even change our mindset, let alone our ways.
I am still thinking, because I am not sure what your point is yet. Are u trying to get me to think about how energy communication methods can be used in new and improved ways?
You make an excellent point about the futility of argument about evolution. At the end of the day, what matters is whether a theory works, not if everyone agrees with it.
I have developed a similar attitude to global warming. If it exists and is caused by humans, we should do something about it, but I am unconvinced by the evidence that it exists at all. I can't imagine what could possibly convince me that there is enough evidence to be worried about this problem to take serious action on it: there is no way to assess whether the problem exists or not with any certainly because there are too many variables and computer models are easy to tune to give whatever result you want.
But I can look around me and see quite clearly that human activity has a huge impact on our environment and that we definitely need to take action on this basis, even if we are unsure whether we are causing global warming or not. We have definitely harmed our environment, so let's stop doing so! So why don't all those hysterical people who keep shouting about global warming talk about the things everyone can agree on and do something meaningful now? If they pushed for investment in clean energy you wouldn't even need anyone to believe in global warming to think that's a good idea - who doesn't want clean energy? But no, they insist on talking only about things that people disagree on - like whether or not global warming exists - which gets us nowhere!
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Then you must not understand the superconducting nature of...
Indeed, I don't. But I do know you don't get something for nowt, superconducting or not. If you tap into that plasma (or whatever it is) then you extract energy and run it down - it doesn't supply unlimited energy forever.
Having said that, the Earth and Sun and whatever is going on inside are pretty big, and at least in the near and medium term whatever we could extract would be lost in the noise floor. Eventually, if you tap it long enough, that energy source will run out although it has to be said we'd be long gone by then. It would effectively be free energy, but in theory it isn't and I think acknowledging that would be a step in the right direction (not to mention heading off 99% of the initial arguments against your theory).
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I'm not the author, of these reply(s):
They why post the things? Are you trying to fill this place enough with complete rubbish that eventually the mods will lock it (and then the chap will have to start a new thread, right)?
Suppose he comes over to your AI thread and starts posting all this plasma stuff in there - you will throw a right wobbly and pretty quickly you'll demand a mod removes him, right? Why do this shit to his thread then? Just because you think it's cobblers doesn't mean you can leave basic decency at the door.
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I'm not the author, of these reply(s):
They why post the things? Are you trying to fill this place enough with complete rubbish that eventually the mods will lock it (and then the chap will have to start a new thread, right)?
Suppose he comes over to your AI thread and starts posting all this plasma stuff in there - you will throw a right wobbly and pretty quickly you'll demand a mod removes him, right? Why do this shit to his thread then? Just because you think it's cobblers doesn't mean you can leave basic decency at the door.
N.B. I'm NOT the author (EDIT: But have changed part(s), to '-------', where necessary), but the actual author, seems to be getting really angry....
You have made them REALLY angry now. Here is what they have to say:
P.S. - Just to show I'm not completely partisan in this I think the plasma stuff is complete -------. But using the above argument I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to believe what he wants and post about it.
The guy isn't being treated any differently on here to the way you treat him in his thread, so why are you complaining?
If you carried on like that here then you wouldn't stay long either, but at least people here are polite about it.
Nice try, though...:roll:
I have every chance of staying in my own thread as a matter of fact, since its about related subjects, as opposed to discussing a topic for which there is no evidence at all of its existence (plasma), and then ranting into oblivion about it being able to power anything from toothpicks to rocketships simply by 'tapping' into the energy source (the cosmos).
I can back up my theories with experiments, and even better than that with observations of how real rocket engines work and how they function.
Compare this with 'plasma power', just how do you propose that we use this stuff? By using 'tapping' into the energy source (the cosmos). By using magnetic fields? To what effect? What effect does magnetic fields have on plasma? Wasnt sure that one until my experiments showed me how they work. What effect does plasma have on magnetic fields? Wasnt sure that one until my experiments showed me how they work either!
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Then you must not understand the superconducting nature of...
Indeed, I don't. But I do know you don't get something for nowt, superconducting or not. If you tap into that plasma (or whatever it is) then you extract energy and run it down - it doesn't supply unlimited energy forever.
Having said that, the Earth and Sun and whatever is going on inside are pretty big, and at least in the near and medium term whatever we could extract would be lost in the noise floor. Eventually, if you tap it long enough, that energy source will run out although it has to be said we'd be long gone by then. It would effectively be free energy, but in theory it isn't and I think acknowledging that would be a step in the right direction (not to mention heading off 99% of the initial arguments against your theory).
I dont believe i use them words free energy, at least not very often. Im explaining the power source of the magnetic field and how they produce fluid motion inside a star. I want to use the same geometric shapes to produce a toroid and extract energy from the z-pinch. The source of energy is irrelevant to me. The efficiency of the conversion from potential energy to kinetic energy is ALL im interested in. And it should be all your interested in as well. Thats because all we ever do is increase efficiency. Every major break tho was just a rapid increase in efficiency, such as A.C. over D.C or Steam to Internal Combustion.
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I dont believe i use them words free energy, at least not very often. Im explaining the power source of the magnetic field and how they produce fluid motion inside a star. I want to use the same geometric shapes to produce a z pinch and extract energy from the z-pinch. The source of energy is irrelevant to me. The efficiency of the conversion from potential energy to kinetic energy is ALL im interested in. And it should be all your interested in as well. Thats because all we ever do is increase efficiency. Every major break tho was just a rapid increase in efficiency, such as A.C. over D.C or Steam to Internal Combustion.
If there is no 'free-energy' in your posts. Then what problem, exactly, does your thing/invention/patent-patent/device/stuff do, for anyone ?. WITHOUT any long-winded word salad answers. I.e. Please only give a short as reasonably possible answer, WITHOUT any meaningless technical babble words.
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If there is no 'free-energy' in your posts. Then what problem, exactly, does your thing/invention/patent-patent/device/stuff do, for anyone ?. WITHOUT any long-winded word salad answers. I.e. Please only give a short as reasonably possible answer, WITHOUT any meaningless technical babble words.
Dont be lazy. Go read the patent.
Short and sweet enough for you?
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Dont be lazy. Go read the patent.
Short and sweet enough for you?
It's up to you to answer.
If I want to know what something does, in ideally a few words or sentence, I don't go and spend hours, reading all the patents about it. As far as I know, you don't yet have any granted patent(s), anyway.
If you continue to refuse to answer, some may assume you are evading the question(s) on purpose, for possibly bad reasons.
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Oh hell I though this thread had finally died :palm:
If someone can’t answer a straight question with a straight answer then they are merely a waste of DNA.
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Dont be lazy. Go read the patent.
Short and sweet enough for you?
It's up to you to answer.
If I want to know what something does, in ideally a few words or sentence, I don't go and spend hours, reading all the patents about it. As far as I know, you don't yet have any granted patent(s), anyway.
If you continue to refuse to answer, some may assume you are evading the question(s) on purpose, for possibly bad reasons.
It been said a hundred times, ive even given you papers showing you that it can be used to model the production of Earth magnetic field. Its not my job to repeat myself a hundred times to someone who has repeatedly annoyed others in the thread. If you dont want to admit that using the same source of power that clearly can be seen in the magnetic declination models of our planet and say it is more viable at providing a self sustaining dynamo that we can utilise as a protective magnetic field for deep space exploration combined with a source of rapidly expanding propellant that can get us to our destination faster. Its a pretty good package. Who knows how much energy can be extracted compared to how much needs to be put in. But its still going to be better than fusion, it powers the Suns magnetic field, which itself powers fusion. Learn the difference between a power source and a by product. It might help you. Heat is always a by product, in plasma's case its a by product of compression. Fusion being the by product of both (appently).
The ability to compress the fluid happens because of the double helical path of 2 waves around the toroid, 1 from the north pole and 1 from the south pole. These waves on Earth are provided by the Suns magnetic field. The plasma reactors will be provided with electricity. The question is can we make the superconducting nature of the toroid and the z pinch it produces give us enough energy out to justify the energy input. The power of this planet and Sun suggest it is absolutely possible. Will the reactor be able to use the Earths field to sustain its rotation? Possibly how could we know? We have never tried. Does that mean we shouldnt try?
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It been said a hundred times, ive even given you papers showing you that it can be used to model the production of Earth magnetic field. Its not my job to repeat myself a hundred times to someone who has repeatedly annoyed others in the thread. If you dont want to admit that using the same source of power that clearly can be seen in the magnetic declination models of our planet and say it is more viable at providing a self sustaining dynamo that we can utilise as a protective magnetic field for deep space exploration combined with a source of rapidly expanding propellant that can get us to our destination faster. Its a pretty good package. Who knows how much energy can be extracted compared to how much needs to be put in. But its still going to be better than fusion, it powers the Suns magnetic field, which itself powers fusion. Learn the difference between a power source and a by product. It might help you. Heat is always a by product, in plasma's case its a by product of compression. Fusion being the by product of both (appently).
The ability to compress the fluid happens because of the double helical path of 2 waves around the toroid, 1 from the north pole and 1 from the south pole. These waves on Earth are provided by the Suns magnetic field. The plasma reactors will be provided with electricity. The question is can we make the superconducting nature of the toroid and the z pinch it produces give us enough energy out to justify the energy input. The power of this planet and Sun suggest it is absolutely possible. Will the reactor be able to use the Earths field to sustain its rotation? Possibly how could we know? We have never tried. Does that mean we shouldnt try?
Let me repeat the question or gist of it for clarity.
What exactly is your idea/patent-pending/invention/thing suppose to do ?
Ideally answer it in a few words, or short sentence.
I.e. What unsolved problem do we have in the world today, that you are fixing/improving/making-more-efficient/solving ?
TL;DR
Why would I want to buy or use one, what exactly does it do, in a few words (ideally) ?
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https://www.sciencealert.com/the-moon-is-brighter-than-the-sun-in-this-amazing-gamma-ray-image (https://www.sciencealert.com/the-moon-is-brighter-than-the-sun-in-this-amazing-gamma-ray-image)
What do you think is powering the gamma ray production inside the moon? Its a sphere, just because the outside cold part is solid dont assume the inside warm part is also solid. It could even be gas, but you can be sure something is in there that reacts to a rotating magnetic field. Hence the gamma ray production.
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Fucks sake just answer a fucking question without a crazy riddle
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Let me repeat the question or gist of it for clarity.
What exactly is your idea/patent-pending/invention/thing suppose to do ?
Ideally answer it in a few words, or short sentence.
I.e. What unsolved problem do we have in the world today, that you are fixing/improving/making-more-efficient/solving ?
TL;DR
Why would I want to buy or use one, what exactly does it do, in a few words (ideally) ?
You know how fusion has always been 25 years away from another experimental breakthrough?
Im fixing that problem.
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Let me repeat the question or gist of it for clarity.
What exactly is your idea/patent-pending/invention/thing suppose to do ?
Ideally answer it in a few words, or short sentence.
I.e. What unsolved problem do we have in the world today, that you are fixing/improving/making-more-efficient/solving ?
TL;DR
Why would I want to buy or use one, what exactly does it do, in a few words (ideally) ?
You know how fusion has always been 25 years away from another experimental breakthrough?
Im fixing that problem.
Thanks!
That does answer that question, or at least takes things to the next set of question or questions.
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Fucks sake just answer a fucking question without a crazy riddle
That wasnt a reply to your question.
Flat earthers react the same when you breakdown their little matrix. Dont let the rage win little lamb. The keyboard wont fight back.
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The patent was linked to in the original post, along with another link to a research paper. The patent looks like another word salad and I admit I the research paper is outside my field.
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1)
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf)
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bd139: yes it almost died, but thread was brought back by the fresh, opinions on soap operas, which, IMHO, have 'non-sense' that kicks ass, over this turkey thread.
Or, this Turkey's thread...
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This thread has grown to many pages, and I must still be missing something fundamental:
Your idea seems mostly (entirely?) focused on extracting power from a plasma, i.e. conducting it away from the plasma. But how do you make the plasma release energy with a positive balance, i.e. what is your power source?! Not fusion, apparently:
No you completely miss understood it if you think this has anything to do with nuclear fusion. [...]
An electrical coil produces a magnetic field by rotating charge around the copper conductor. Plasma toroids create a magnetic field by rotating the charged plasma around the toroid in an identical way. Fusion is a by product of this process. It is not the power source.
So what is the power source? Where does the energy which you aim to conduct away from the plasma (by whichever wave means) actually come from?
Then you must not understand the superconducting nature of a toroid of superionic plasma inside a Star or planet and how it builds a never ending current loop that produces both a dipole and a quadrupole, from the geometry of the helical compression wave. Or how the toroidal compression wave mergers on the poloidal axis to form a z pinch.
We could also look at it from the efficiency aspect between expanding compressed plasma and fusion.
You would be saying that a source of all magnetic fields and quadrupoles is not the source of rotation on both the Sun and Earth. Not to mention the fact most fusion technology uses a toroid or a z pinch. Even admitting to producing a larger pressure gradient than what burning fossil fuels can produce. Are we trying to claim boiling water is a more efficient uses of compressed plasma in a toroid?
No one would use a jet engine to heat water? Then why would we use the potential energy of compressed plasma to heat water? It makes no sense. Thats why fusion has failed, its a by product of the plasma colliding as it exits the z pinch. The explosive pressure gradient is all we need to generate kinetic energy from plasma, the fusion is wasting the reuseable plasma fuel.
Ok, taking it down to your level: All of those stars, planets etc are packed full of kinetic energy that's "stirring" the plasma. What would "stir" the plasma in your system?
McBryce.
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The patent was linked to in the original post, along with another link to a research paper. The patent looks like another word salad and I admit I the research paper is outside my field.
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1)
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf)
All patents are when written by a patent attorney, its called legalese. Trust me i never want to read it again either. But you should just look at the picture. Then look at the pink squatter man.
Using the terms right there in the heading, explosive growth and non linear dynamics of magnetic island look for the pressure release point on the plasma exiting the z pinch. Put that pink squatterman image with the large arrow on the head inside the plasma reactor to force the expanding plasma around the turbine blades to rotate the sphere and then feed that back into the z pinch to be compressed again. That completes the secondary plasma circuit. 1 independent toroidal current inducing a second independent poloidal current.
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All patents are when written by a patent attorney, its called legalese. Trust me i never want to read it again either. But you should just look at the picture. Then look at the pink squatter man.
Using the terms right there in the heading, explosive growth and non linear dynamics of magnetic island look for the pressure release point on the plasma exiting the z pinch. Put that pink squatterman image with the large arrow on the head inside the plasma reactor to force the expanding plasma around the turbine blades to rotate the sphere and then feed that back into the z pinch to be compressed again. That completes the secondary plasma circuit. 1 independent toroidal current inducing a second independent poloidal current.
A little bird, just flew into me, with the following message (or something), which seems easier to understand, and seems to make some sense:
If you are not familiar with plasma z pinches, they are what is used on the surface of the Sun to separate hydrogen atoms into protons and electrons. The energy required to do this is between 0.1 and 1 eV (electron volts). If the plasma has an energy greater than this in a magnetic field, the magnetic field will force the plasma into a spiral. The spiral turns into an island when it reaches its limit of pressure against the surrounding plasma. This island creates a hole in the surrounding plasma that other plasma can fill as it is forced towards it by the magnetic fields of the Sun or a star.
The suns photosphere is at an equilibrium between radiation pressure from the interior of the sun pushing outwards and gravity pulling inwards. A large part of this equilibrium is due to the fact that photons take time to travel from the hot interior of the sun through the relatively cooler photosphere to reach space. During this time they collide with electrons and protons in the photosphere which slows them down (and their energy). This collision process also heats up thephotosphere. The outgoing photons eventually reach space where they no longer collide with anything and their energy is radiated into space.
The temperature of the photosphere is about 6000 K which is much cooler than the interior of the sun where nuclear fusion reactions are taking place (at about 15 million K). The heat from these nuclear fusion reactions has to travel through layers of increasingly dense material before it can reach and heat up the photosphere.
The TL;DR
Would seem to be, that conventional Physics, can explain these things. I'm not sure that your (word-salad ?), does.
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Ok, taking it down to your level: All of those stars, planets etc are packed full of kinetic energy that's "stirring" the plasma. What would "stir" the plasma in your system?
McBryce.
The same thing, using electrical coils to build a toroid that can be maintained with as little energy input as possible.
The energy in compressed plasma is mostly potential, the kinetic energy comes from the rotation of the sphere which is provided by the potential energy expanding as plasma exits the z pinch.
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Ok, taking it down to your level: All of those stars, planets etc are packed full of kinetic energy that's "stirring" the plasma. What would "stir" the plasma in your system?
The same thing, using electrical coils to build a toroid that can be maintained with as little energy input as possible.
The energy in compressed plasma is mostly potential, the kinetic energy comes from the rotation of the sphere which is provided by the potential energy expanding as plasma exits the z pinch.
Why do you assume that you can extract more energy from that plasma, than the energy you have previously put in -- be it via compression, electromagnetic waves or whichever means? How is that supposed to work?
It would be helpful if you could guide us through your envisioned process step by step:
- What (material and device) do you start with?
- What energy (type and amount) do you put in to generate your plasma?
- What energy do you extract?
- Is the energy difference positive, negative or zero?
Thanks in advance!
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Why do you assume that you can extract more energy from that plasma, than the energy you have previously put in -- be it via compression, electromagnetic waves or whichever means? How is that supposed to work?
It would be helpful if you could guide us through your envisioned process step by step:
- What (material and device) do you start with?
- What energy (type and amount) do you put in to generate your plasma?
- What energy do you extract?
- Is the energy difference positive, negative or zero?
Thanks in advance!
I believe you can extract energy because if you can generate a self sustaining dynamo with a secondary induced poloidal current to generate thrust from, since the potential energy of a z pinch is exponential to the energy rotating around the toroid we can utilize this to supply the input energy via rotation with turbine blades. I dont see why this wont provide excess energy that can be extracted using conventional electrical generator systems. Esp if the primary plasma toroid can form a superconducting lattice such as that found in Graphene. Which is why the quadrupole formed from a double helical wave around a toroid is so important. At that point the toroidal lattace structure matches that found in graphene to form superconductivity. Plasma being an electrical conducting fluid this compresses the plasma toroid further to increase the energy density, which increases potential difference accross the z pinch.
You likely start with composites, you want to keep eddie currents to a minimum. Possible even using permanent magnets to induce the rotatiin in the plasma. Remember in a prototype we will be just experimenting with pressures and such like. Its also important to consider that potential difference is the main driver in fluid motion. The pressure around the reactor can be similar to that of a jet engine at 30000ft.
You must ionize the plasma as much as possible, high voltage usually does the trick for that. Once its ionised you will have to see how it behaves. It should remain ionised by its own self generated fields. That will depend on the strength of the rotating polar fields and toroid.
You exact the energy as it exits the z pinch, this is where plasma is travelling the fastest and its density is at its highest. From here it expands forcing the turbine blades around, this turns the inside sphere which can be connected to conventional electrical generators. If you are really clever you could possible use the D.C rotor currents as your polar currents in the reactor.
By looking at the planet or Sun, i would say its a fairly positive energy output.
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I believe you can extract energy because if you can generate a self sustaining dynamo with a secondary induced poloidal current to generate thrust from, since the potential energy of a z pinch is exponential to the energy rotating around the toroid we can utilize this to supply the input energy via rotation with turbine blades. I dont see why this wont provide excess energy that can be extracted using conventional electrical generator systems.
What you describe there is known in the art as a "perpetuum mobile". You might have come across some criticism of such concepts?
Esp if the primary plasma toroid can form a superconducting lattice such as that found in Graphene. Which is why the quadrupole formed from a double helical wave around a toroid is so important. At that point the toroidal lattace structure matches that found in graphene to form superconductivity. Plasma being an electrical conducting fluid this compresses the plasma toroid further to increase the energy density, which increases potential difference accross the z pinch.
Sorry -- superconductivity will not fix anything for you. It does not generate energy from nothing, as I believe others have pointed out in this thread before. You are still talking perpetuum mobile here.
By looking at the planet or Sun, i would say its a fairly positive energy output.
The sun is running on nuclear fusion. Have you really never come across this fact? Or have you, but choose to deny it?
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The sun is running on nuclear fusion. Have you really never come across this fact? Or have you, but choose to deny it?
Oh a fact is it? So why has fusion not worked then?
How does fusion generate the magnetic field change between solar minimum and solar maximum?
In fairness 2 minutes ago none of you knew that an electron moved in a helical wave, so your opinion on superconductivity is not really going to convince me that im wrong on compression waves and how they produce potential difference when they meet resistance. Thats why the 1.1° is important. Its called resistance. Check them work in an electrical circuit now you know what you are measureing.
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The sun is running on nuclear fusion. Have you really never come across this fact? Or have you, but choose to deny it?
Oh a fact is it? So why has fusion not worked then?
There is something very wrong with the argument: "Fusion power has not yet worked on earth on an industrial scale, so the sun cannot be operating on fusion." I believe you realize that yourself. But anyway:
Creating sustained, stable plasma conditions which enable nuclear fusion is technically very difficult. Temperatures need to be very high, so you can't simply confine the plasma with mechanical walls. The magnetic field geometries needed to confine the plasma are very complex, and the required field strengths are very high. Maintaining the high currents required to generate the magnetic fields is challenging, especially right next to the very hot plasma, where the temperatures are inconvenient for using superconductors.
It helps if you have an entire star to work with, at a scale where gravity can hold things together. Having enough space around you so that you can tolerate the occasional solar flare helps too...
Anyway, thank you again for your reply #689 above. It has clarified for me that you are really talking about a perpetuum mobile concept. If you can't even see the flaw with that core assumption, I'm afraid we don't need to take this discussion any further.
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I jumped 20 pages forward in this thread to the last page, hoping to find something concrete and definitive. Nope. This guy's more evasive than a politician covered in marmite. I was going to say vasoline instead, but I didn't want anyone to think I was getting too naughty.
Then I wondered if anyone has seen this guy and aetherist in the same room at the same time?
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There is something very wrong with the argument: "Fusion power has not yet worked on earth on an industrial scale, so the sun cannot be operating on fusion." I believe you realize that yourself. But anyway:
Creating sustained, stable plasma conditions which enable nuclear fusion is technically very difficult. Temperatures need to be very high, so you can't simply confine the plasma with mechanical walls. The magnetic field geometries needed to confine the plasma are very complex, and the required field strengths are very high. Maintaining the high currents required to generate the magnetic fields is challenging, especially right next to the very hot plasma, where the temperatures are inconvenient for using superconductors.
It helps if you have an entire star to work with, at a scale where gravity can hold things together. Having enough space around you so that you can tolerate the occasional solar flare helps too...
Anyway, thank you again for your reply #689 above. It has clarified for me that you are really talking about a perpetuum mobile concept. If you can't even see the flaw with that core assumption, I'm afraid we don't need to take this discussion any further.
There is much wrong with that argument. You are assuming fusion powers the suns magnetic changes? Please provide the mechanism?
Then please tell me how fusion powers earths magnetic field. Please be specific with the geometry of the measured field.
Please show how fusion converts energy into rotational kinetic energy, please show us how this produces different rotational speeds on the stars equatorial plain.
Fusion has never been proven to power the star, its a theory. And its a theory with many, many un explained mechanisms, that have already been shown to exist in the toroidal dynamo modelling.
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I jumped 20 pages forward in this thread to the last page, hoping to find something concrete and definitive. Nope. This guy's more evasive than a politician covered in marmite. I was going to say vasoline instead, but I didn't want anyone to think I was getting too naughty.
Then I wondered if anyone has seen this guy and aetherist in the same room at the same time?
Did you see hollyoaks and get exciting? Stop reading comments from flat earthers. For some reason they cant view a magnetic field as a helical wave to save themselves from their 2 dimensional reality they have been measuring since the birth of electromagnetism. Its a helical compression wave guys, thats why you get voltage...
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<A suggestion to look at this, and read through it carefully, please>
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/understanding-the-magnetic-sun (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/understanding-the-magnetic-sun)
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There is much wrong with that argument. You are assuming fusion powers the suns magnetic changes? Please provide the mechanism?
Then please tell me how fusion powers earths magnetic field. Please be specific with the geometry of the measured field.
Please show how fusion converts energy into rotational kinetic energy, please show us how this produces different rotational speeds on the stars equatorial plain.
Fusion has never been proven to power the star, its a theory. And its a theory with many, many un explained mechanisms, that have already been shown to exist in the toroidal dynamo modelling.
I stand corrected.
The perpetuum mobile is possible, and you have proven it.
Endless amounts of hot air can be generated from sustained circular reasoning.
:palm:
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<A suggestion to look at this, and read through it carefully, please>
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/understanding-the-magnetic-sun (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/understanding-the-magnetic-sun)
“We’re not sure exactly where in the sun the magnetic field is created,” said Dean Pesnell, a space scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. “It could be close to the solar surface or deep inside the sun – or over a wide range of depths.”
A complete understanding of the sun’s magnetic field – including knowing exactly how it’s generated and its structure deep inside the sun – is not yet mapped out, but scientists do know quite a bit. For one thing, the solar magnetic system is known to drive the approximately-11-year activity cycle on the sun. With every eruption, the sun’s magnetic field smooths out slightly until it reaches its simplest state. At that point the sun experiences what's known as solar minimum, when solar explosions are least frequent. From that point, the sun’s magnetic field grows more complicated over time until it peaks at solar maximum, some 11 years after the previous solar maximum.
“At solar maximum, the magnetic field has a very complicated shape with lots of small structures throughout – these are the active regions we see,” said Pesnell. “At solar minimum, the field is weaker and concentrated at the poles. It’s a very smooth structure that doesn’t form sunspots.”
I gave you the mechanism for the periodic solar magnetic field change. What more evidence do you want that NASA dont know that? You provided it yourself, good work.
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I stand corrected.
The perpetuum mobile is possible, and you have proven it.
Endless amounts of hot air can be generated from sustained circular reasoning.
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Well no one has proven fusion, your friend just shared a nice article that should help you with that. I seem to recall somone saying something was a fact, when NASA say otherwise. Would you like to retract that statement as well?
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What more evidence do you want that NASA dont know that?
Most or all of us, who are members of this forum. Are unlikely to want to, or even be in much of a position to try, and strongly disagree, with many things that NASA publishes.
We might want to further some undiscovered or uncertain bits of it, or solve some unsolved bits. But not usually strongly disagree, with lots of things they publish.
As a rule of thumb, if someone wants to very strongly disagree with well established things, where NASA, Physicists, Experimental results and other fields, such as mathematics, are all in close agreement.
Then the person would either be, an up coming super-genius, way above Einsteins intellectual level, or the opposite, of that (but still a potentially very useful member of society, just maybe not cut out to give huge lectures on new physics theories, to lots of people).
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Well no one has proven fusion, your friend just shared a nice article that should help you with that.
I don't know which article you read. The one I saw says:
The sun is made of plasma, a gas-like state of matter in which electrons and ions have separated, creating a super-hot mix of charged particles. When charged particles move, they naturally create magnetic fields, which in turn have an additional effect on how the particles move. The plasma in the sun, therefore, sets up a complicated system of cause and effect in which plasma flows inside the sun – churned up by the enormous heat produced by nuclear fusion at the center of the sun – create the sun's magnetic fields. This system is known as the solar dynamo.
Yes, it also states that "A complete understanding of the sun’s magnetic field – including knowing exactly how it’s generated and its structure deep inside the sun – is not yet mapped out." But how would that contradict the understanding that the sun is powered by nuclear fusion?!
Your argument works just like: "Rainfall cannot explain global warming, so rainfall can't be real."
Stop this, quickly. Turn your attention to something entirely different or you will go nuts, man. You are already on a slippery slope.
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Most or all of us, who are members of this forum. Are unlikely to want to, or even be in much of a position to try, and strongly disagree, with many things that NASA publishes.
This.
Everything we know and work on is possible to describe using mathematical models. NASA at least utilise that and engineering discipline to build things that actually work and have a huge long history of credibility doing so and publishing it.
And along comes someone with no mathematical models, no engineering discipline and has no credibility and when asked for any models to back this up or even some mathematical description calls the people asking all sorts of names, dismisses their requests and generally struts around like a chicken making noises and defecating everywhere.
But at least the chicken produces eggs.
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Most or all of us, who are members of this forum. Are unlikely to want to, or even be in much of a position to try, and strongly disagree, with many things that NASA publishes.
This.
Everything we know and work on is possible to describe using mathematical models. NASA at least utilise that and engineering discipline to build things that actually work and have a huge long history of credibility doing so and publishing it.
And along comes someone with no mathematical models, no engineering discipline and has no credibility and when asked for any models to back this up or even some mathematical description calls the people asking all sorts of names, dismisses their requests and generally struts around like a chicken making noises and defecating everywhere.
But at least the chicken produces eggs.
NASA has an annual budget of $22.6 billion, thats why they can come up with mathimatical models and build stuff to prove theories. They spent a lot of it on fusion, but have thus far failed to prove it powers the sun. They also havent managed to mathimatically model the magnetic field on the sun. Maybe thats because the megnetic field is a magnetic wave. Like i have been saying.
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Well no one has proven fusion, your friend just shared a nice article that should help you with that.
I don't know which article you read. The one I saw says:
The sun is made of plasma, a gas-like state of matter in which electrons and ions have separated, creating a super-hot mix of charged particles. When charged particles move, they naturally create magnetic fields, which in turn have an additional effect on how the particles move. The plasma in the sun, therefore, sets up a complicated system of cause and effect in which plasma flows inside the sun – churned up by the enormous heat produced by nuclear fusion at the center of the sun – create the sun's magnetic fields. This system is known as the solar dynamo.
Yes, it also states that "A complete understanding of the sun’s magnetic field – including knowing exactly how it’s generated and its structure deep inside the sun – is not yet mapped out." But how would that contradict the understanding that the sun is powered by nuclear fusion?!
Your argument works just like: "Rainfall cannot explain global warming, so rainfall can't be real."
Stop this, quickly. Turn your attention to something entirely different or you will go nuts, man. You are already on a slippery slope.
Its the differece between the power source and the by product. The power source (toroid) creates the magnetic field. Then the magnetic field creates the fusion.
All the good ideas are considered crazy at first. Im not worried.
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Most or all of us, who are members of this forum. Are unlikely to want to, or even be in much of a position to try, and strongly disagree, with many things that NASA publishes.
This.
Everything we know and work on is possible to describe using mathematical models. NASA at least utilise that and engineering discipline to build things that actually work and have a huge long history of credibility doing so and publishing it.
And along comes someone with no mathematical models, no engineering discipline and has no credibility and when asked for any models to back this up or even some mathematical description calls the people asking all sorts of names, dismisses their requests and generally struts around like a chicken making noises and defecating everywhere.
But at least the chicken produces eggs.
NASA has an annual budget of $22.6 billion, thats why they can come up with mathimatical models and build stuff to prove theories. They spent a lot of it on fusion, but have thus far failed to prove it powers the sun. They also havent managed to mathimatically model the magnetic field on the sun. Maybe thats because the megnetic field is a magnetic wave. Like i have been saying.
Perhaps you should come up with a testable hypothesis with mathematics to back it up then and submit it to them then rather than garbing on about it in some internet forum?
Oh no you can't so you're coming on here making excuses for having no idea what the fuck you are talking about and talking around everything.
You are classic ideas dude at startup.
"I have this wonderful idea. Find me someone to make it happen."
That's not how physics works.
Your idea is not credible, you have no common language to express it which anyone with credibility can assess it with and you are evasive and unprofessional.
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NASA has an annual budget of $22.6 billion, thats why they can come up with mathimatical models and build stuff to prove theories. They spent a lot of it on fusion, but have thus far failed to prove it powers the sun. They also havent managed to mathimatically model the magnetic field on the sun. Maybe thats because the megnetic field is a magnetic wave. Like i have been saying.
<This message, is not necessarily from me>
If the math doesnt work out, its not a mathimatical model.
Its called a FAILED MODEL.
<What follows, IS from me>
That would suggest, you really need to get a combination of a successful theory, mathematical model, and later, experimental results, all in agreement, then maybe start discussing it with others.
**Maybe** doesn't work.
**Maybe** I will win £300,000,000 on a EU lottery. Then **Maybe** I will invent a new physics theory. Finally **Maybe** I can live to >200 years old.
**Maybe** you are a robot. **Maybe** it is an attacking type of robot. **Maybe** I should phone the police and warn them. **Maybe** they will give me £300,000,000 reward money. **Maybe** I can .....
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All the good ideas are considered crazy at first. Im not worried.
No you're completely wrong there. Absolutely 100% wrong.
You don't hear about the crazy ideas because there's millions of them and they all die silently. A few of them flop around loudly and gasp for air a bit before dying or being killed but that's the minority.
Someone just puts a narrative around the good ideas because everyone loves some romantic story of adversity because it amplifies the idea.
Good ideas that stick are hard work, research, reputation and marketing. None of which you have done.
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what is your power source?!
NLP generator runs on vast quantities of BS
There is enough BS in this thread alone to run a billion Talkie-Toasters for a billion years ;)
That reminds me of an episode of Eurotrash, a dodgy low budget TV show filled with soft porn and bad jokes about Europe. A European bloke made his own shit generator. I can't remember what powered it, but it was mildly amusing.
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A toroid is not a power source all by itself.
Let me have a wild stab a guessing what this is about....
You plan to feed in (let's say for argument) 1 kilowatt of electricity (sustained)
You hope to get (let's say) 900 Watts-worth of propulsion out (yes I know propulsion is not measured in Watts)
Since action and reaction are equal, you need to eject matter to provide propulsion - so now 45% efficient (say)
Your invention is a new kind of motor? (means of propulsion suited to outer space? )
I think I am likely totally wrong, but I really struggle to understand the bigger view of what your invention will do
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A European bloke made his own shit generator. I can't remember what powered it, but it was mildly amusing.
If I remember correctly the generator went into politics.
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A toroid is not a power source all by itself.
Are you saying a toroid of rotating charge does not produce a magnetic field?
Go back to the fusion research paper that talked about the problem of the plasma pulsing. The energy that creates the pluse in the plasma hasnt been input by the reactor, the current in the reactor coils is steady. We know this because the pulsing is a problem. The current in the input coils is stopping the plasma from becoming the input winding. Unfortunately, the design cant extract power from these coils as it would destroy the field structure of the plasma toroid.
Let me have a wild stab a guessing what this is about....
You plan to feed in (let's say for argument) 1 kilowatt of electricity (sustained)
You hope to get (let's say) 900 Watts-worth of propulsion out (yes I know propulsion is not measured in Watts)
Since action and reaction are equal, you need to eject matter to provide propulsion - so now 45% efficient (say)
Ah but how many reactors do you have? 1 for propulsion that can be refueled? And one to protect the ship? Stopping radiation is a big deal. It allows you to have much more advanced electrical circuits. You electronics guys should understand why they wrapped current satellites in gold foil.
Your invention is a new kind of motor? (means of propulsion suited to outer space? )
It simply just a jet engine combined with an electric motor. Using the compression wave of plasma around the toroids z pinch to create an exponential compression wave along the poloidal axis. The plasma current this produces will meet resistance when it hits the turbine blades. Remember drag on the rotating plasma is next to nothing inside a rotating sphere in orbit. How much energy is need to maintain a constant velocity? How much excess energy does a planet produce to power the oceans and magnetosphere?
I think I am likely totally wrong, but I really struggle to understand the bigger view of what your invention will do
It will recreate the magnetic field of a star or planet. Its a big deal.
The invention will do the same thing Tesla A.C. generation did. His increased the efficiency of the electrical compression wave. This will increasing the efficiency of the plasma compression wave.
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No you're completely wrong there. Absolutely 100% wrong.
You don't hear about the crazy ideas because there's millions of them and they all die silently. A few of them flop around loudly and gasp for air a bit before dying or being killed but that's the minority.
Someone just puts a narrative around the good ideas because everyone loves some romantic story of adversity because it amplifies the idea.
Good ideas that stick are hard work, research, reputation and marketing. None of which you have done.
I think you should ref back to the tesla article on A.C, his Professor said it would be perpetual motion. Are you currently using A.C electricity or not? You have no idea how much work and research i have put into this. How could you know?
Why dont you answer these simply questions....
How do we currently extract potential energy from a compressed fluid in order to turn it into kinetic energy?
Does compressed plasma expand?
What do anti parallel currents do?
Name one source of energy that uses heat energy to directly generate kinetic energy?
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No you're completely wrong there. Absolutely 100% wrong.
You don't hear about the crazy ideas because there's millions of them and they all die silently. A few of them flop around loudly and gasp for air a bit before dying or being killed but that's the minority.
Someone just puts a narrative around the good ideas because everyone loves some romantic story of adversity because it amplifies the idea.
Good ideas that stick are hard work, research, reputation and marketing. None of which you have done.
I think you should ref back to the tesla article on A.C, his Professor said it would be perpetual motion. Are you currently using A.C electricity or not? You have no idea how much work and research i have put into this. How could you know?
Why dont you answer these simply questions....
How do we currently extract potential energy from a compressed fluid in order to turn it into kinetic energy?
Does compressed plasma expand?
What do anti parallel currents do?
Name one source of energy that uses heat energy to directly generate kinetic energy?
One anecdote from a hundred years ago does not explain 2022.
How about you demonstrate mathematically that your questions have validity. That’s how it works.
The promoter of an idea is the guy who answers the questions.
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One anecdote from a hundred years ago does not explain 2022.
How about you demonstrate mathematically that your questions have validity. That’s how it works.
The promoter of an idea is the guy who answers the questions.
Then you're in no position to claim my answers are wrong.
If you want to make claims then back them up or shut up. They are the most basic questions and the fact you cant answer them shows you to be no better than a troll.
You were asked to leave multiply times if you had nothing constructive to add. You add nothing, asking the same bullshit question and expecting me to have it all laid out for you like NASA would. Sorry bro im not NASA.
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One anecdote from a hundred years ago does not explain 2022.
How about you demonstrate mathematically that your questions have validity. That’s how it works.
The promoter of an idea is the guy who answers the questions.
Then you're in no position to claim my answers are wrong.
If you want to make claims then back them up or shut up. They are the most basic questions and the fact you cant answer them shows you to be no better than a troll.
You were asked to leave multiply times if you had nothing constructive to add. You add nothing, asking the same bullshit question and expecting me to have it all laid out for you like NASA would. Sorry bro im not NASA.
The burden of proof is on you which is what you fail to understand and fail to provide. I have no need to disprove your hypothesis as you have provided no rational evidence or a model or framework in which to conceptualise it other than some crazed word salad.
I don’t think you’re in a position to ask me to leave. Simon or Dave are. But not you.
Also using the term “bro” really dismisses some more of your credibility.
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The patent was linked to in the original post, along with another link to a research paper. The patent looks like another word salad and I admit I the research paper is outside my field.
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1)
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrei-Smolyakov/publication/253018641_Explosive_growth_and_nonlinear_dynamics_of_the_forced_magnetic_island/links/53edec9f0cf23733e80b18cd/Explosive-growth-and-nonlinear-dynamics-of-the-forced-magnetic-island.pdf)
All patents are when written by a patent attorney, its called legalese. Trust me i never want to read it again either. But you should just look at the picture. Then look at the pink squatter man.
Using the terms right there in the heading, explosive growth and non linear dynamics of magnetic island look for the pressure release point on the plasma exiting the z pinch. Put that pink squatterman image with the large arrow on the head inside the plasma reactor to force the expanding plasma around the turbine blades to rotate the sphere and then feed that back into the z pinch to be compressed again. That completes the secondary plasma circuit. 1 independent toroidal current inducing a second independent poloidal current.
Nonsense. If you filed the patent, then you must understand it. Please explain the quoted text in more detail.
A plasma reactor is provided together with a method for generating kinetic energy to propel a craft. The reactor includes an inlet for plasma; a reactor core having an interior chamber and an exterior chamber, the interior chamber being configured to rotate within the exterior chamber; a pair of opposing polar field generators, a first polar field generator connected proximal to an inlet of the interior chamber, and a second polar field generator connected proximal to an outlet of the interior chamber, the pair of polar field generators configured to induce a current in the plasma to generate a toroidal flow therein, wherein the toroidal flow compresses the plasma into a z-pinch flow in a central column between the first polar field generator and the second polar field generator; turbine blades located between the interior chamber and the exterior chamber for generating thrust to convert the z-pinch flow to kinetic energy; and an outlet.
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022104408&_cid=P12-L3VAV6-33583-1)
I have looked at the picture. It appears to be a diagram of an alien life form's eye.
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Nonsense. If you filed the patent, then you must understand it. Please explain the quoted text in more detail.
I have looked at the picture. It appears to be a diagram of an alien life form's eye.
Off course i understand it. But its not me who wrote it. Its written a specific way that no one likes reading.
I have put the pink plasma squatter man over the "alien eye", hopefully it shows you the direction of the plasma in the Z-Pinch and where the plasma then expands to create the largest potential difference used to turn the reactor via the turbine blades. A gas set up does not need to be super dense or super hot.
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It's more comprehensible than anything you have posted here.
What's the difference between the plasma that exists the system and the plasma that enters the system?
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It's more comprehensible than anything you have posted here.
What's the difference between the plasma that exists the system and the plasma that enters the system?
Density. The plasma exiting the Z-Pinch is compressed.
The plasma entering the Z-Pinch is being sucked in. Like any mechanical compression pump. Such as a twin screw compressor intake. As the plasma is compressed it draws a vacuum behind it.
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That's internally, but what's the difference between that stuff that enters through the inlet 105 and exists through the outlet 140B?
Couldn't the machine run closed loop, with the plasma wholly circulating inside?
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I don't believe the earth is flat and I can even imagine electrons travelling in 3D helical paths, but none of that helps me understand why you think that you would get more energy out of a system than you put into it. No matter how much superconductive elements you used and no matter how much compression occurred at the z-pinch, etc. The only source of energy is the energy you put in, so where does the additional energy come from?
McBryce.
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That's internally, but what's the difference between that stuff that enters through the inlet 105 and exists through the outlet 140B?
Couldn't the machine run closed loop, with the plasma wholly circulating inside?
The inlet is for controlling the density of the plasma inside the reactor. Like refilling after you used some plasma as thrust from outlet 140B
So, Yes it runs closed loop, except when being used as a propellant.
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I don't believe the earth is flat and I can even imagine electrons travelling in 3D helical paths, but none of that helps me understand why you think that you would get more energy out of a system than you put into it. No matter how much superconductive elements you used and no matter how much compression occurred at the z-pinch, etc. The only source of energy is the energy you put in, so where does the additional energy come from?
McBryce.
Dont forget to reverse the inverse square law for compression waves. The Z Pinch is not the source axis of any wave. It makes a difference when you calculate the energy available at that location. Consider that all that energy travelling outward from the Sun or Earth, is also travelling inward.
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I don't believe the earth is flat and I can even imagine electrons travelling in 3D helical paths, but none of that helps me understand why you think that you would get more energy out of a system than you put into it. No matter how much superconductive elements you used and no matter how much compression occurred at the z-pinch, etc. The only source of energy is the energy you put in, so where does the additional energy come from?
McBryce.
Dont forget to reverse the inverse square law for compression waves. The Z Pinch is not the source axis of any wave. It makes a difference when you calculate the energy available at that location. Consider that all that energy travelling outward from the Sun or Earth, is also travelling inward.
Don't forget the laws of thermodynamics.
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Don't forget the laws of thermodynamics.
Dont forget, that when you have finished with a few fusion reactions trying to heat water to created a potential difference, that most of the energy is still stored in the compressed plasma. Dont waste it.
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The inlet is for controlling the density of the plasma inside the reactor. Like refilling after you used some plasma as thrust from outlet 140B
So, Yes it runs closed loop, except when being used as a propellant.
So basically it's an electric motor: you use electric energy to compress plasma and then force it through turbines to recover the energy as motion.
I suppose it might work, but it will have to compete with other kinds of electric motors invented over the last 100 years.
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The inlet is for controlling the density of the plasma inside the reactor. Like refilling after you used some plasma as thrust from outlet 140B
So, Yes it runs closed loop, except when being used as a propellant.
So basically it's an electric motor: you use electric energy to compress plasma and then force it through turbines to recover the energy as motion.
I suppose it might work, but it will have to compete with other kinds of electric motors invented over the last 100 years.
Gosh. 15 pages just to discuss a new electric motor. :palm:
I doubt it's possible to produce more efficient/compact electric motors. It's a very mature technology. I suppose it's possible if room temperature semiconductors are achieved, but then most of the losses will be in the mechanics and driver.
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The inlet is for controlling the density of the plasma inside the reactor. Like refilling after you used some plasma as thrust from outlet 140B
So, Yes it runs closed loop, except when being used as a propellant.
So basically it's an electric motor: you use electric energy to compress plasma and then force it through turbines to recover the energy as motion.
I suppose it might work, but it will have to compete with other kinds of electric motors invented over the last 100 years.
Refer back to the pulsing of Tokamax fusion reactors and the MHD self sustaining dynamo model for producing Earths magnetic field. When these conditions are meet the reactor becomes a generator. This is provided by the turbine blades so as to not interfere with extracting power via coils around the reactor. A method currently being explored by some plasma research. The magnetic field induced at 90° affects the double helical wave needed to maintain the dyanmo. Esp once at full load. With the plasma reactor the electrical generator can be kept as far away as necessary so as not to effect the plasma.
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Gosh. 15 pages just to discuss a new electric motor. :palm:
I doubt it's possible to produce more efficient/compact electric motors. It's a very mature technology. I suppose it's possible if room temperature semiconductors are achieved, but then most of the losses will be in the mechanics and driver.
Im sure Sir James Dyson would disagree with you on that statement. As would his countless Patents on his devolpment of electric motors with incredible rpm limits.
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Gosh. 15 pages just to discuss a new electric motor. :palm:
I doubt it's possible to produce more efficient/compact electric motors. It's a very mature technology. I suppose it's possible if room temperature semiconductors are achieved, but then most of the losses will be in the mechanics and driver.
Im sure Sir James Dyson would disagree with you on that statement. As would his countless Patents on his devolpment of electric motors with incredible rpm limits.
He didn't develop anything completely original, or revolutionary, just put existing technologies such as cyclonic filtration and a switched reluctance motor in a vacuum cleaner. Fair enough, he deserves some credit for the design and that no one had done it before.
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Not a chance. The guy created an absolute environmental nightmare with plastics usage and inefficient power hungry unreliable trash and like any other corporation let the weak WEEE directive handle the fallout rather than have any corporate responsibility. Lets not even start on the whole Singapore thing either...
He's merely another factory pressed businessman that people aspire to be.
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He didn't develop anything completely original, or revolutionary, just put existing technologies such as cyclonic filtration and a switched reluctance motor in a vacuum cleaner. Fair enough, he deserves some credit for the design and that no one had done it before.
He has done plenty more than just that, and also funds programs to increase the number of engineers coming out of further education.
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/ (https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/)
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Not a chance. The guy created an absolute environmental nightmare with plastics usage and inefficient power hungry equipment and like any other corporation let the weak WEEE directive handle the fallout rather than have any corporate responsibility. Lets not even start on the whole Singapore thing either...
He's merely another factory pressed businessman that people aspire to be.
Dont hate the player, hate the game. He has to make hard decisions to save jobs. Its the nature of business.
And if you're such an environmentalist then here is a reactor that could bring the power of the sun to you and replace a lot of your dependence on fossil fuels quicker than fusion will thanks to using the potential energy correctly.
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I know two ex Dyson employees, both who got hired out of university. He's an arsehole with an arsehole company. Don't read into the marketing too much.
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I know two ex Dyson employees, both who got hired out of university. He's an arsehole with an arsehole company. Don't read into the marketing too much.
We are talking about achievements, his personality is irrelevant. You would say the same off me that i would off you. That's Perspective for you. Aint that a metaphor for this little experiment?
Apply to the direction of the positive plasma magnetic fields and negative electron magnetic fields around the toroid on the z pinch. Opposite direction of travel plus opposite charge equals indentical field direction though the polidal axis as the positive plasma fields. Try working it out.
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The metaphor for this experiment is “shit show”
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He didn't develop anything completely original, or revolutionary, just put existing technologies such as cyclonic filtration and a switched reluctance motor in a vacuum cleaner. Fair enough, he deserves some credit for the design and that no one had done it before.
He has done plenty more than just that, and also funds programs to increase the number of engineers coming out of further education.
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/ (https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/)
That's just marketing. 💩 :bullshit:
It was nothing new, even back in 2003. The switched reluctance motor was patented back in 1838 and by the 1990s power electronics had become cheap and efficient enough to make it practical to use them in household appliances. All he did was find a new application for a technology, which had recently matured.
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Refer back to the pulsing of Tokamax fusion reactors and the MHD self sustaining dynamo model for producing Earths magnetic field. When these conditions are meet the reactor becomes a generator. This is provided by the turbine blades so as to not interfere with extracting power via coils around the reactor. A method currently being explored by some plasma research. The magnetic field induced at 90° affects the double helical wave needed to maintain the dyanmo. Esp once at full load. With the plasma reactor the electrical generator can be kept as far away as necessary so as not to effect the plasma.
So basically an electric motor which also makes free energy? ::)
While I'm not an astrophysicist, I strongly suspect that extracting any work from Earth's magnetic field, such as orienting a compass needle, causes the core to slow down and cool and the thing will run out of energy after some billions years, like certain planets already did. I also think that preservation of energy wouldn't be discussed with nearly the same level of confidence if a natural mechanism were known which permits self-sustaining magnetic fields to perform work.
For the record, I have invented much more straightforward free energy devices at age of six ;D
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All he did was find a new application for a technology, which had recently matured.
Doesn't sound much when you put it like that, but I think he had nearly as much effect on the vacuum cleaner market as Jobs did with smart phones.
Still got a DC02 which was utterly fab at the time and is still good enough that I'd buy another tomorrow if this one died. No bags, sucks golf balls, etc. Before that one nothing really lasted well, mostly because the damn bags would fill up or the power was more like a sneeze in a paper bag. And being a single bloke at the time I tried quite a few.
Nowadays, I am failing to see how a hair dryer could possibly be worth £300 (and that's without any fancy tooling), but then a No3 probably doesn't warrant that much looking after.
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I may have got help, preparing this post.
his personality is irrelevant.
His personality is not irrelevant, it's vitally important. If he was a jerk, no one would want to work with him and he would never have gotten anywhere.
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I may have got help, preparing this post.
What is this about? Typically, you give the source of quotes to a) give credit where it's due, b) allow others to check it out and c) goes some way to showing that it's a real quote and not made up.
But also, typically, people don't have anonymous quotes as their entire interaction. If you agree with the quote you can say the thing yourself in your own words.
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Smells like GPT-2 to me
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I may have got help, preparing this post.
What is this about? Typically, you give the source of quotes to a) give credit where it's due, b) allow others to check it out and c) goes some way to showing that it's a real quote and not made up.
But also, typically, people don't have anonymous quotes as their entire interaction. If you agree with the quote you can say the thing yourself in your own words.
If I try and read the OP's, long wordy posts, I have to stop at near the beginning of the post.
E.g. The plasma, quadrupoles, magnetic superconducting, anti-gravity plasma flow lines, would couple with the reverse-magnet suns North to South, polar flow, ..............
But if I pass it through technologies, such as ....
Smells like GPT-2 to me
Or similar, (the particular version I use, seems to request that you DON'T give links to their stuff, for reasons (possibly because they are worried about legal implications, if it says bad or political things) ......), it actually seems to at least understand it, and give me some possibly useful posting information.
E.g. It might say something like:
"That's a pile of nonsense, the magnetic field lines would actually align. Please refer to the NASA website link provided, which clarified magnetic flows, within the suns plasma", etc.
I'm put into a dilemma. I don't want to post stuff I didn't write myself (directly), and pass it off as my own work. Also I can't link to it as such, anyway. Because it is the output of an AI (text processing of sorts) engine.
Although you have objected to me doing it or similar, in this thread. The reason I do it, is because the OP, is one extremely difficult, person. Who often/usually point blank bluntly refuses, to answer, even the shortest and simplest of questions, with a direct/applicable answer. So, any tool or aids, which help move this thread along to a conclusion (if that is even ever going to be possible), is good/useful, in my books.
Much of the things in the first 30 pages so far, should have been clearly explained, in the opening post.
My translation of the thread so far (with no help), is as follows:
The design goal is some kind of free-energy, perpetual motion machine, working on the basis that if you string together, a complicated word-salad, thet even the OP, seems to hint, they don't understand (or at least like reading it, especially as regards the patent pending bits).
Therefore, they (OP) can simply claim they have made a great invention.
Whereas the reality seems to be, the OPs lack (nearly total?), of actual real scientific skills/knowledge/experience, is allowing them to incorrectly believe they have made a great invention. Glossing over the fact, that it is extremely likely (pretty much a certainty), that it WON'T work, free of any energy use and/or perpetual motion concepts.
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Great faith, rather than scientific judgement, seems to be powering (pun intentional) this, so called invention.
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the OPs lack (nearly total?), of actual real scientific skills/knowledge/experience, is allowing them to incorrectly believe they have made a great invention.
It's an overused term on the internet, but this here seems to be a classic case: Dunning-Kruger effect...
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the OPs lack (nearly total?), of actual real scientific skills/knowledge/experience, is allowing them to incorrectly believe they have made a great invention.
It's an overused term on the internet, but this here seems to be a classic case: Dunning-Kruger effect...
This goes past overconfidence in your abilities and into ignorance of your inabilities.
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It's an overused term on the internet, but this here seems to be a classic case: Dunning-Kruger effect...
An overused term indeed. In fact, after the last spate of its use, I remember vowing physical violence to the next member to use it! :box:
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An overused term indeed. In fact, after the last spate of its use, I remember vowing physical violence to the next member to use it! :box:
Ouch.
Feel free to call it something else then, but the mechanism at work is real, and it is strong with this one...
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So how is everyone doing with the concept of turning compressed potential energy into kinetic energy?
Imagine following 1000's of years of generating kinetic energy from potential difference in a fluid, suddenly the flat earthers jump out and say that all these MHD controlled fluids with potential difference causing the fluid to move and a turbine be used to turn that energy into electrical power via kinetic energy.
COMPRESSED PLASMA = potential energy. Large Potential difference crrated on z pinch used to turn turbine blades. The potential energy stored in the compressed electrostatic force of dense plasma releases that energy with an explosive growth that builds pressure. We converted fluid pressure into kinetic energy via turbine blades. This isnt reinventing the wheel.
In a hydro power planet. The potential difference is created by the weight of water, aka gravity the control of density. Which is released on to turbine blades to create kinetic energy. Its the same process, only using the central z pinch as the compression point.
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So how is everyone doing with the concept of turning compressed potential energy into kinetic energy?
Pneumatics, you mean? Heard about it. Have not seen it used as a power plant though. :--
Look, I frankly don't care whether or not you have a working concept to convert energy from a plasma into kinetic energy. (Although I am very confident that you don't.) As long as you claim to have some mysterious way to make a plasma generate unlimited amounts of energy, and argue that the sun is operating on that mysterious mechanism rather than on nuclear fusion, I can't take you seriously.
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Pneumatics, you mean? Heard about it. Have not seen it used as a power plant though. :--
Look, I frankly don't care whether or not you have a working concept to convert energy from a plasma into kinetic energy. (Although I am very confident that you don't.) As long as you claim to have some mysterious way to make a plasma generate unlimited amounts of energy, and argue that the sun is operating on that mysterious mechanism rather than on nuclear fusion, I can't take you seriously.
Most power plants use steam powered turbines. That is the same process. Only due to the conversion of energy into heat which then has to boils water, it is usually considered a by product. A typical expample of this is a jet engine. Most of the energy is released as potential with some being used as kinetic energy to compress.
Just consider it the best hope you have for fusion, since it can still provide a mechanism for the periodic magnetic change during the solar cycle. Fusion cant do that.
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This thread had me in a constant battle between |O and :popcorn:. But there's only so much popcorn I can stomach, and I think I have had my fill now.
Cheers, good luck with revolutionizing science, making the world a better place, and getting rich in the process.
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I'm put into a dilemma.
No you're not. You are being the front end of a bot for the sake of lolz. You might consider that cool if you don't mind being ignored if/when you eventually have a real question or observation.
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Gosh. 15 pages just to discuss a new electric motor. :palm:
I doubt it's possible to produce more efficient/compact electric motors. It's a very mature technology. I suppose it's possible if room temperature semiconductors are achieved, but then most of the losses will be in the mechanics and driver.
Im sure Sir James Dyson would disagree with you on that statement. As would his countless Patents on his devolpment of electric motors with incredible rpm limits.
As someone who has worked with James, you're probably better off keeping Nikola Tesla as your hero when it comes to motors (or many other things). One aimed to innovate electro-mechanical devices, the other was purely focused on the commercial aspect.
McBryce.
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I'm put into a dilemma.
No you're not. You are being the front end of a bot for the sake of lolz. You might consider that cool if you don't mind being ignored if/when you eventually have a real question or observation.
Another trick, is to get other poster(s) comments, and apply them against the OP. Let's try it here:
Feel free to ignore this thread if it's boring for you, but who the hell are you to dictate what anyone else can talk about?
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You are literally sitting here and facilitating exchange of word salad between some stranger of questionable sanity and a computer, or perhaps between two computers.
:-DD
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You are literally sitting here and facilitating exchange of word salad between some stranger of questionable sanity and a computer, or perhaps between two computers.
:-DD
ERROR 536567283, MK14 not available to reply. Automatically transferring their response, to the AI API. Please wait ....... . . . . . .. .. .. .
Automated Response:
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but in case you are: no, I'm not facilitating an exchange of word salad between a stranger and a computer. If anything, I'm trying to help the stranger make sense of their own thoughts.
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I'm trying to HELP.
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I'm put into a dilemma.
No you're not. You are being the front end of a bot for the sake of lolz. You might consider that cool if you don't mind being ignored if/when you eventually have a real question or observation.
Another trick, is to get other poster(s) comments, and apply them against the OP. Let's try it here:
Feel free to ignore this thread if it's boring for you, but who the hell are you to dictate what anyone else can talk about?
It's OK to hijack a thread and then tell anyone complaining to fuck off?
That is some misrepresentation, and you know it. I wasn't intentionally hijacking the thread just to vandalise it, as you're currently doing, but trying to keep it noise-free.
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I'm put into a dilemma.
No you're not. You are being the front end of a bot for the sake of lolz. You might consider that cool if you don't mind being ignored if/when you eventually have a real question or observation.
Another trick, is to get other poster(s) comments, and apply them against the OP. Let's try it here:
Feel free to ignore this thread if it's boring for you, but who the hell are you to dictate what anyone else can talk about?
It's OK to hijack a thread and then tell anyone complaining to *******?
That is some misrepresentation, and you know it. I wasn't intentionally hijacking the thread just to vandalise it, as you're currently doing, but trying to keep it noise-free.
What exactly, do you want me to do or not do in this thread, from now on ?
Anyway, I will assume that you DON'T want anything, NOT directly written by me, except actual links to reference material, such as scientific papers.
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One anecdote from a hundred years ago does not explain 2022.
How about you demonstrate mathematically that your questions have validity. That’s how it works.
The promoter of an idea is the guy who answers the questions.
Then you're in no position to claim my answers are wrong.
If you want to make claims then back them up or shut up. They are the most basic questions and the fact you cant answer them shows you to be no better than a troll.
You were asked to leave multiply times if you had nothing constructive to add. You add nothing, asking the same bullshit question and expecting me to have it all laid out for you like NASA would. Sorry bro im not NASA.
Hey, asshole! don't be one. So far you are the one that has tried to ram shit down our throat with no explanation. Now start doing some explaining or fuck off!
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I don't believe the earth is flat and I can even imagine electrons travelling in 3D helical paths, but none of that helps me understand why you think that you would get more energy out of a system than you put into it. No matter how much superconductive elements you used and no matter how much compression occurred at the z-pinch, etc. The only source of energy is the energy you put in, so where does the additional energy come from?
McBryce.
Dont forget to reverse the inverse square law for compression waves. The Z Pinch is not the source axis of any wave. It makes a difference when you calculate the energy available at that location. Consider that all that energy travelling outward from the Sun or Earth, is also travelling inward.
Don't forget the laws of thermodynamics.
Don't forget he spent six months on his own on a boat, that qualifies him for anything apparently even if his qualifications amount to getting heat stroke.
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He didn't develop anything completely original, or revolutionary, just put existing technologies such as cyclonic filtration and a switched reluctance motor in a vacuum cleaner. Fair enough, he deserves some credit for the design and that no one had done it before.
He has done plenty more than just that, and also funds programs to increase the number of engineers coming out of further education.
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/ (https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/archived/resources-archived/dyson-sweeps-up-vacuum-cleaner-market-with-100000rpm-2003-10/)
In case someone forget to tell you further education about matches the crap you come out with so it's not hard to beleive that a guy that markets himself as the author of his employees designs needs some actual engineers to work for him!
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Let me repeat the question or gist of it for clarity.
What exactly is your idea/patent-pending/invention/thing suppose to do ?
Ideally answer it in a few words, or short sentence.
I.e. What unsolved problem do we have in the world today, that you are fixing/improving/making-more-efficient/solving ?
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Why would I want to buy or use one, what exactly does it do, in a few words (ideally) ?
You know how fusion has always been 25 years away from another experimental breakthrough?
Im fixing that problem.
Yes, just pay him the money, then he too can tell you that it's just another breakthrough away.
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Fucks sake just answer a fucking question without a crazy riddle
You mean admit he is a scumbag scammer? I mean 31 pages later people are still arguing with him? crikey that TV must be really, really, really bad.
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The sun is running on nuclear fusion. Have you really never come across this fact? Or have you, but choose to deny it?
Oh a fact is it? So why has fusion not worked then?
Maybe you should look up how stars work, I mean surely during your 6 months of delirious sun stroke you found out that the only viable fusion reactors work because they are so huge and due to physics they are just a natural phenomenon. If you cannot see the difference between the natural nuclear fusion in a star and what is required to generate the same process on a scale that is too small to work in the way it does for a star then I suggest you quit.
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A scammer would have no reason to post here.
It must be worse than that |O
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Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence.
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Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence.
I agree. Heck, I even encourage the original poster to stay and ask questions, as long has he doesn't push this nonsense in other threads.
I'm put into a dilemma.
No you're not. You are being the front end of a bot for the sake of lolz. You might consider that cool if you don't mind being ignored if/when you eventually have a real question or observation.
Another trick, is to get other poster(s) comments, and apply them against the OP. Let's try it here:
Feel free to ignore this thread if it's boring for you, but who the hell are you to dictate what anyone else can talk about?
It's OK to hijack a thread and then tell anyone complaining to *******?
That is some misrepresentation, and you know it. I wasn't intentionally hijacking the thread just to vandalise it, as you're currently doing, but trying to keep it noise-free.
What exactly, do you want me to do or not do in this thread, from now on ?
Anyway, I will assume that you DON'T want anything, NOT directly written by me, except actual links to reference material, such as scientific papers.
Is it really worth falling out over such a silly thread?
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Is it really worth falling out over such a silly thread?
I agree. But I can't speak for the other poster.
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I wonder if this technology could be sold as a means of powering electric cars, at least to the same sort of politicians that fund solar roadways ;D
Don't want to be that guy, but as for spacecraft owners/builders, there is no way in hell that they will buy into it. They have to understand physics or their stuff wouldn't work at all.
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I wonder if this technology could be sold as a means of powering electric cars, at least to the same sort of politicians that fund solar roadways ;D
Don't want to be that guy, but as for spacecraft owners/builders, there is no way in hell that they will buy into it. They have to understand physics or their stuff wouldn't work at all.
That is why we need to build a repository of debunking's hoping that people don't get fooled. But as solar roadways demonstrated, they do not walk among us, the true idiots rule us....
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I think it’s more that there’s so many idiots that it’s inevitable some of them get to rule us.
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Yes. BD139, 'Incompetence' can prevail, given circumstances...Wonder what (various) Biological System Researchers have to say, as incompetence pops up at times, (in the wild).
I turned down a path opening up, to be groomed for a Management position (Group Leader / Supervisor), but that ain't me...Turned out the next A-Hole down the list got installed, to my chagrin. I don't even know, exactly, what 'chagrin' means...oh well.
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Yes. BD139, 'Incompetence' can prevail, given circumstances...Wonder what (various) Biological System Researchers have to say, as incompetence pops up at times, (in the wild).
I turned down a path opening up, to be groomed for a Management position (Group Leader / Supervisor), but that ain't me...Turned out the next A-Hole down the list got installed, to my chagrin. I don't even know, exactly, what 'chagrin' means...oh well.
What do you think the apparent silence, from the OP means?
Maybe they are beginning to see the error of their ways?
Or are still contemplating things?
Or have they decided to carry on, regardless?
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I suspect that he’s overdosed on magic mushrooms and currently thinks he’s a clown fish.
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I suspect that he’s overdosed on magic mushrooms and currently thinks he’s a clown fish.
Which swallows water (plasma, according to OP), to give limitless, free energy and perpetual motion. As the fish travels the seas, without needing to use any nuclear fusion, at all. Which then through heat radiation, heats and powers the sun, so it doesn't need to use any fusion at all.
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I think it’s more that there’s so many idiots that it’s inevitable some of them get to rule us.
Idiocy and stupidity are related concepts. Here are two of my postings about the standard textbook on stupidity from another thread:
[1] I like my definition of stupidity. Being unaware of one's ignorance is another form of ignorance.
However, yesterday I started reading a very short book: C M Cipolla, The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity, Doubleday, 2019 (original version 1976), where the author discusses (axiomatically) the nature of stupid people, rather than stupidity itself.
Looking ahead past my present bookmark is his Third Law: "A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses."
The author is describing harmful stupidity, worse than in my definition.
[2] By the way, the five basic laws of C M Cipolla, discussed in the book I mentioned, are
(1) Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
(2) The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
(3) A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
(4) Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
(5) A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
(Corollary) A stupid person is more dangerous than a bandit.
The book has a strange publication history: originally privately printed (in English) in 1976, then translated into Italian in 1988, finally published in English in 2011 by an Italian publisher, then by a British publisher in 2019. Only 81 pages. The author, a serious professor of economic history, died in 2000.
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Idiocy and stupidity are related concepts.
Assuming they (OP) are telling the truth. They must be reasonably bright, intelligent, capable, intuitive, sensible, to be able to sail half-way round the world.
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In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
Wouldn't that make the non-stupid person stupid? Perhaps it's contagious.
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MK14, I'm thinking, as in case of a child, that silence your comment on the OP, the OP / and or BOT, goes silent, perhaps, simply cause the algorithm has no response; maybe sometimes random insert a completely dis-jointed irrelevant response...just to appear HUMAN. Maybe we should start calling (the OP)...The 'OP-BOT'. !
I did notice (let's maybe just call'em: 'ThreadBot?'), that author habitually dispenses insults...
Perhaps that 'whatevwr' ducks out, to go criticising THIS site...(I'm not sure what other blogs)
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that author habitually dispenses insults...
Really? Maybe you could list a few.
A quick check shows 'flat-earther' popping up now and then, but you have to go back 12 posts before seeing a bit of short-temper on his side.
OTOH, practically all comments posted by you have been insulting towards him, and the vast proportion of comments by nearly anyone else have been, let's say, 'unkind' at best.
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Not sure if you've had to pitch stuff to investors before but we're being quite nice in comparison and giving some really good advice.
He didn't take the advice, proceeded to throw insults when evidence and proofs were requested which are minimum bar here and turn totally evasive revealing the true extent of his knowledge and motivation.
After that, game was over.
Edit: then again if he really had a clue he wouldn't be pissing this garbage all over the Internet. He'd have found someone to work on it with and pitched already. I suspect however that this is just narcissistic ball fluffing and he's gone quiet after finding another forum to stoke discussion and ego on.
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We seem to live in a time when people want to be gullible to any "miracle" of technology. Figures like Elon Musk who have now gone a bit stale but stand up to present total non starters to whooping spectators, this then counts in the news as a big product launch even if it was probably done to employees. News outlets do not employ people who have any expertise in the field they report on so they will just pick up the press release and run with it.
Just look at all the crap that comes out of indigogo with massive amounts of overfunding when it does not take much to realize that it's a non product. Having just re-watched life of Brian, the way the crowd takes to him by accident and makes him a messiah seems to be about as easy as modern day pranksters take people for quite a bit of cash. I mean solar roadways? tax payers money is going into that, a massive scam propped up by the money of people that had no say in it being spend because a stupid politician was too incompetent to take proper advice.
Maybe our OP aspires to that kind of scam. You only have to get lucky once and you use your first funding to sell the idea to more stupid people for more money. And of course stupid people that invest in these scams will not want to admit that they were had. Fake bomb detectors made out of tennis racket handles and radio aerials anyone? I mean, seriously, how the fuck did that one get out? The history of successful scamming is an illustrious one for the scammers, many more want a piece of that cake.
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That hits the nail on the head perfectly.
There is a desire in a portion of society to be lead, blindly. This is seen as a market from which you can extract money. Musk is exactly on point as I've had a close victim of that cultist who was so absorbed in it that he spent his entire retirement fund on a car and was going on about self driving being only a week away now on his death bed. That was several years ago now...
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MK14, I'm thinking, as in case of a child, that silence your comment on the OP, the OP / and or BOT, goes silent, perhaps, simply cause the algorithm has no response; maybe sometimes random insert a completely dis-jointed irrelevant response...just to appear HUMAN. Maybe we should start calling (the OP)...The 'OP-BOT'. !
I did notice (let's maybe just call'em: 'ThreadBot?'), that author habitually dispenses insults...
Perhaps that 'whatevwr' ducks out, to go criticising THIS site...(I'm not sure what other blogs)
I would be interested in knowing how they create their (OP's) word-salad replies. Does it involve any computer assistance ?
These days, it is getting increasingly difficult, to tell real human from computer (BOT) generated responses.
Anyway, let me assure you, I'm 100% human %(&*$(**(Divide_By_Zero error in printf line 23263, before first %d in function_EmulateHuman(). Please reboot.$%£^*%$^&
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Well someone set up the site. I suspect they are either very persistently sad in pedalling their junk or they were using prewritten replies maybe with the help of a program. Maybe a bot will do the same as a human that is talking rubbish, keep changing the subject to keep you on the run and not notice that he has not actually answered anything.
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That sounds like an interesting book, I'll have to look for a copy of it. His five rules certainly match with what I've observed in life.
BTW I'm just wondering, does the author consider people that ruin their lives with alcohol, drugs, gambling or other vices to be stupid or something else?
I think it’s more that there’s so many idiots that it’s inevitable some of them get to rule us.
Idiocy and stupidity are related concepts. Here are two of my postings about the standard textbook on stupidity from another thread:
[1] I like my definition of stupidity. Being unaware of one's ignorance is another form of ignorance.
However, yesterday I started reading a very short book: C M Cipolla, The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity, Doubleday, 2019 (original version 1976), where the author discusses (axiomatically) the nature of stupid people, rather than stupidity itself.
Looking ahead past my present bookmark is his Third Law: "A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses."
The author is describing harmful stupidity, worse than in my definition.
[2] By the way, the five basic laws of C M Cipolla, discussed in the book I mentioned, are
(1) Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
(2) The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
(3) A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
(4) Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
(5) A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
(Corollary) A stupid person is more dangerous than a bandit.
The book has a strange publication history: originally privately printed (in English) in 1976, then translated into Italian in 1988, finally published in English in 2011 by an Italian publisher, then by a British publisher in 2019. Only 81 pages. The author, a serious professor of economic history, died in 2000.
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That sounds like an interesting book, I'll have to look for a copy of it. His five rules certainly match with what I've observed in life.
BTW I'm just wondering, does the author consider people that ruin their lives with alcohol, drugs, gambling or other vices to be stupid or something else?
I think it’s more that there’s so many idiots that it’s inevitable some of them get to rule us.
Idiocy and stupidity are related concepts. Here are two of my postings about the standard textbook on stupidity from another thread:
[1] I like my definition of stupidity. Being unaware of one's ignorance is another form of ignorance.
However, yesterday I started reading a very short book: C M Cipolla, The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity, Doubleday, 2019 (original version 1976), where the author discusses (axiomatically) the nature of stupid people, rather than stupidity itself.
Looking ahead past my present bookmark is his Third Law: "A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses."
The author is describing harmful stupidity, worse than in my definition.
[2] By the way, the five basic laws of C M Cipolla, discussed in the book I mentioned, are
(1) Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
(2) The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
(3) A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
(4) Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
(5) A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
(Corollary) A stupid person is more dangerous than a bandit.
The book has a strange publication history: originally privately printed (in English) in 1976, then translated into Italian in 1988, finally published in English in 2011 by an Italian publisher, then by a British publisher in 2019. Only 81 pages. The author, a serious professor of economic history, died in 2000.
I think that self-destructive stupidity is included in his rule (3) "A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.", but the author does not discuss this topic explicitly. He makes an important distinction between a "bandit", who harms others and profits from this harm himself, and a "stupid person" who does not derive gain from his harm to others.
By the way, the book is very, very short and may not be cost-effective. The part I liked is his rule (2) "The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.", where he explicitly states that "men are not equal, that some are stupid and others are not, and that the difference is determined by nature and not by cultural forces or factors". He compares that to the universal value of the female-to-male birth fraction, that does not depend on race, socio-economic status, geography, or other factors.
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StrayElectron:
Just a word to the wise (? Is that an acronym WTTW)
Us (California) folks worked pretty hard, to separate Cannabis (ie 'POT'), from all the METH crazies (1990's),
and now, as result of FENTANYL - opiode overdoses 2020's and easy access, including the social networks.
I'm hearing calls for 'ZERO TOLERANCE',...due mainly to the overdose deaths...
So my point is, that big BIN called 'drugs' has so many flaws...I guess I'm trying to ask for more specific substances, being called out...(but I'm a pergectionist),
How about, maybe, accuse people of being,
'On fake Opioides'.
The whole Marijuana thing, historically, is actually with racist leanings...(try look up 'muggles').
Thanks,
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well someone is going to see a spike in sales of that book, mines ordered :)
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a "bandit", who harms others and profits from this harm himsel
What could profit be? Presumably he is thinking money or status or similar, but suppose someone just enjoys harming someone else. Does his enjoyment count as profit? What if he has a grudge - someone else ran off with his girlfriend, perhaps, or nicked his motor - would 'taking down' the other person be profit since it might discourage others from doing the same?
Perhaps that section might better read as "a 'stupid person' who unwittingly does not derive gain from his harm to others".
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a "bandit", who harms others and profits from this harm himsel
What could profit be? Presumably he is thinking money or status or similar, but suppose someone just enjoys harming someone else. Does his enjoyment count as profit? What if he has a grudge - someone else ran off with his girlfriend, perhaps, or nicked his motor - would 'taking down' the other person be profit since it might discourage others from doing the same?
Perhaps that section might better read as "a 'stupid person' who unwittingly does not derive gain from his harm to others".
In the author's discussion, an example of a bandit is one who steals your money at gunpoint. He gains money and you lose money. Even if he drops some of it while escaping the crime scene, he still profits by an amount less than you lose. Sadistic enjoyment could be one form of profit.
"Unwittingly" would be synonymous with "stupid" in the author's usage (but redundant). The author sees the harm to others and loss to himself as the basic nature of a stupid act.
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OK :-+
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That's an interesting dynamic (stupidity that harms others). That phrase 'unwittingly' hurt (others).
I think, maybe add to it: 'unwittingly,...in appearance',
That gets into the whole, subtle dynamic; Perpetrator saying, in apparent innocence, "DID I do THAT ?", That one courtesy of TV's Erkle, while other folks might get spotted: hiding a 'devious' grin.
Yes, We love our Humans...very subtle yet complex, and the least of devious.
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A stupid perp need not be aware that his actions hurt others and himself.
A bandit knows that his actions hurt others, but hopes to profit himself.
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A stupid perp need not be aware that his actions hurt others and himself.
A bandit knows that his actions hurt others, but hopes to profit himself.
As far as I can tell. The book is just causing/stirring up confirmation biases, in the people that read it. I don't think, it is a good/sensible/valid book, as such. It might have a little bit of merit, but even that, I'd not be sure about.
I suspect the reality, is that we need an extremely wide range of abilities/skills/experience/manual-abilities/studying/inventiveness/perception/personality/dexterity/leadership, etc. To make up a successful, vibrant/prosperus/successful society.
By definition, 50% of the population, have an IQ of less than 100. But life, is way, way, way more complicated than that. Which is part of the reason why Einstein wasn't world leader, and Thomas Edison wasn't President of the United States of America.
TL;DR
If the book had significant validity, then surely there would be many other similar books and/or it would be more widely well known.
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TL;DR
If the book had significant validity, then surely there would be many other similar books and/or it would be more widely well known.
I don't agree. For example, just because most of the human race hasn't seen the new 'Top Gun' movie don't mean that it isn't a good movie. The number of viewers of a movie or the number of readers of a book or the number of purchasers of any given product is often more about the amount of advertising than the quality. That's why we had to suffer through YEARS of TV advertisements for the trashy Ronco products.
I'm sure that pretty much everyone on this list can name some very good books that most of us have never heard of. Have you read Obed Macy's 'History of Nantucket' printed in 1835? I have but I doubt that anyone else on this forum has. Yes, that book is OT for this forum but so is Cipolla's book. But if your interest lies in those areas then both are probably worth reading.
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TL;DR
If the book had significant validity, then surely there would be many other similar books and/or it would be more widely well known.
I don't agree. For example, just because most of the human race hasn't seen the new 'Top Gun' movie don't mean that it isn't a good movie. The number of viewers of a movie or the number of readers of a book or the number of purchasers of any given product is often more about the amount of advertising than the quality. That's why we had to suffer through YEARS of TV advertisements for the trashy Ronco products.
I'm sure that pretty much everyone on this list can name some very good books that most of us have never heard of. Have you read Obed Macy's 'History of Nantucket' printed in 1835? I have but I doubt that anyone else on this forum has. Yes, that book is OT for this forum but so is Cipolla's book. But if your interest lies in those areas then both are probably worth reading.
There is some truth to your post, but by and large, I don't think it shows the true picture.
There are going to be (I suspect, in some cases), real gems, among things which are very largely overlooked. But by and large, there are very good reasons, why something has never hit the popular sales, for that item.
In other words, if a video sales place has block-busters for sale, for £20 (blu-ray/DVD), reasonable ones for £5 each. Sale/special ones for sale at £2. Bargain basement ones for £1. Extreme bargain basement ones, for £0.49 then I suspect, ones for sale for £0.05 , or 10 for £0.25, or the entire bin (basket), for £0.99 if you remove them today. Are going to be of terrible/uninteresting to most people.
I.e. for £0.05, the general idiom, 'You get what you pay for', probably will apply here as well.
TL;DR
Just because there are rare (opinions might vary) exceptions, something which appears to be unpopular etc, probably is NOT very good.
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Please stop peppering your posts with TL;DR, it doesn't appear to have any relevant meaning, and irritates me as much as DK syndrome references!
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Thanks for letting, me know.
EDIT: I'm pleased you told me (in real terms), because I didn't realize there was such a problem. Now you mention it, on reflection, I do seem to be over-using that term.
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If the book had significant validity, then surely there would be many other similar books and/or it would be more widely well known.
I don't agree. For example, just because most of the human race hasn't seen the new 'Top Gun' movie don't mean that it isn't a good movie. The number of viewers of a movie or the number of readers of a book or the number of purchasers of any given product is often more about the amount of advertising than the quality. That's why we had to suffer through YEARS of TV advertisements for the trashy Ronco products.
I'm sure that pretty much everyone on this list can name some very good books that most of us have never heard of. Have you read Obed Macy's 'History of Nantucket' printed in 1835? I have but I doubt that anyone else on this forum has. Yes, that book is OT for this forum but so is Cipolla's book. But if your interest lies in those areas then both are probably worth reading.
There is some truth to your post, but by and large, I don't think it shows the true picture.
There are going to be (I suspect, in some cases), real gems, among things which are very largely overlooked. But by and large, there are very good reasons, why something has never hit the popular sales, for that item.
In other words, if a video sales place has block-busters for sale, for £20 (blu-ray/DVD), reasonable ones for £5 each. Sale/special ones for sale at £2. Bargain basement ones for £1. Extreme bargain basement ones, for £0.49 then I suspect, ones for sale for £0.05 , or 10 for £0.25, or the entire bin (basket), for £0.99 if you remove them today. Are going to be of terrible/uninteresting to most people.
I.e. for £0.05, the general idiom, 'You get what you pay for', probably will apply here as well.
TL;DR
Just because there are rare (opinions might vary) exceptions, something which appears to be unpopular etc, probably is NOT very good.
As I stated above, the book itself is rather small and perhaps not cost-effective.
There are some detailed comments on the book online, for example https://medium.com/mind-cafe/the-5-basic-laws-of-human-stupidity-513de9dd0bd5 for those who don't need a small book for their coffee table.
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I think if you're going to use it it should be at the start so people can skip the rest. Makes no sense to have to read it all just to find the precis :)
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I think if you're going to use it it should be at the start so people can skip the rest. Makes no sense to have to read it all just to find the precis :)
I gave my own précis earlier, but, since some people seemed interested, I cited a more detailed description of the book. Feel free to ignore all of the above.
After a long career, I am still interested in precise differences between the related concepts of ignorance, idiocy, and stupidity, which are not synonymous.
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Feel free to ignore all of the above.
Sorry. But that is what I'm doing, and why I might appear to not be replying to your earlier post, apparently directed towards me.
I just don't like the concept/way of attempting to label people as being of certain types, rather than trying to create a nice/fair society, that handles, ALL the people, of all ages/abilities/etc.
Deeper discussion here is not really allowed (no politics). Hence some of my possible (full) reply, could be missing, or had to be watered down.
As the internet age, progresses, and flat-earth/free-energy/perpetual-motion/5G-harms/kills-people/etc concepts/groups, become more entrenched. Difficulties with people like the OP, may become more of a hazard.
Calling them names (such as, not top ability level), doesn't really handle the situation. If a person has modest natural abilities, it doesn't mean that they will have to ignore doctors/scientists advice and so on. I.e. There is a lot more to it, than just a simple label.
Also, even people with apparently high ability levels, also seem to be able to succumb to things like this. E.g. Phishing scams. (High ability levels, just not in using a computer, safely).
I am apparently contradicting myself, to some extent in this post. Because on the one hand, I'm saying please don't label people. But on the other, labeling them as free-energy etc types. My excuse, if you look at any human feature/nature in any kind of detail, there can be all sorts of contradictions, all over the place. E.g. Supports never eating meat (Vegetarian or Vegan), yet enjoys going hunting over the weekends and/or wears leather shoes.
I suppose my other excuse, is just because their abilities, are not at the top end, doesn't mean they have to make the mistake (in some peoples opinions), of going the free-energy etc, route. I.e. One can have not the best abilities known to man, but can still believe the experts, when they say, perpetual motion machines are simply not possible, without some kind of energy source (even then, they would stop when the fuel (e.g. fusion material) runs out).
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The fact many people believe in free energy indicates ignorance of physics.
I bet if I told the same people who fall for it I could make something i.e. mass out of thin air, they wouldn't believe me, but they fall for energy because they don't understand it and consider it to be magic. The famous formula E = mc2 proves this to be false. If you can make energy from nothing, then there's nothing to stop you magicking gold from nothing.
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Hey I'm in software. We're really good at magicking gold from nothing. In fact the real trick is giving people shit in exchange for gold.
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Hey I'm in software. We're really good at magicking gold from nothing. In fact the real trick is giving people shit in exchange for gold.
;D
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Hey I'm in software. We're really good at magicking gold from nothing. In fact the real trick is giving people shit in exchange for gold.
You're right, that works!
Let's check the mathematics. Given:
E = mc2
Since any software we write, create and sell to others. Is entirely weightless, and since we exchange the software, for money, which can be exchanged for Energy.
We get, E = Some positive money (e.g. £10K, with electricity very approximately at £0.30/kWh) = 33,333 kWh (approx).
m = Total weight/mass of software produced = 0.
Proving that:
E = mc2
Must be wrong somewhere? :-/O ::) :-\ 8) >:D
So, you can generate free-energy, in a limited (sit down and write software) sense.
(Just to be clear, this is written in jest, free-energy is still thought to be impossible, without some kind of tangible fuel source).
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The formula has a different meaning in software engineering.
E = mc ^ 2
E = entropy increase of the universe
c = the speed of outsourcers
m = the mass of bloatware
At no point is money considered there. No one has worked out how money actually works in software, much like trying to unify gravity into the standard model. Thousands of accountants and economists are pondering the problem as we speak.
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The formula has a different meaning in software engineering.
E = mc ^ 2
E = entropy increase of the universe
c = the speed of outsourcers
m = the mass of bloatware
At no point is money considered there. No one has worked out how money actually works in software, much like trying to unify gravity into the standard model. Thousands of accountants and economists are pondering the problem as we speak.
Also, if you succeed in making any money from software, in the UK (jobs and businesses aside). A significant black-hole opens up, termed (IR35), which gobbles up, an arguably unfair amount of the money.
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Actually on that, Ingmar Bergman wrote a scene in The Seventh Seal about me and HMRC trying to come to an understanding on an IR35 issue.
(https://imgur.com/vtj62dl.jpg)
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:-DD :-DD :-DD :) :) :)
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A new report from the IPCC includes all those stand-up meetings in various climate models and that showed a significant contribution to global warming. :-DD
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OK, uh, MK14: You missed the sublety of the back-hand phrase ' intelligence not at the top'.
What that really means is, very understated, 'no where near the TOP...more like rock bottom stupid' , as the understatement, itself, indicates emphasis! A language subtle aspect, (maybe difficult aspect of any different culture / language.
Kind of like, when a person rolls their eyes, saying "Yeah, right, sure".
It's an interesting dynamic, of the various terms, not being synonyms...more subtle stuff.
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OK, uh, MK14: You missed the sublety of the back-hand phrase ' intelligence not at the top'.
What that really means is, very understated, 'no where near the TOP...more like rock bottom stupid' , as the understatement, itself, indicates emphasis! A language subtle aspect, (maybe difficult aspect of any different culture / language.
Kind of like, when a person rolls their eyes, saying "Yeah, right, sure".
It's an interesting dynamic, of the various terms, not being synonyms...more subtle stuff.
It's tricky, as I'm trying not to use words which would cause potentially strong/significant psycological biases, in readers of this thread.
The way I see it, is when someone (or me), as a person, tackles a brand new subject/concept/hobby/activity, for essentially the first time. There is a significant tendency, for the person, to believe that, although they are by no means an expert on that subject area/activity. They, from general background/current experiences, would be reasonably able to successfully tackle that thing. I.e. They may think, they are already at 60% to 70% experience level in that subject/activity, even though they haven't done it at all yet.
Which is just a reasonably common human nature thing.
It is only when they attempt to actually carry out the activity for the first time, they discover how useless and initially severely lacking any real experience or skills, in that subject area/activity.
E.g. Previously, I thought (a very long time ago, indeed), I could reasonably fly a helicopter, despite zero actual experience. But one day, I came across (possibly at a flying centred museum or vaguely similar, such as a science museum), a very simple, but effective, helicopter flying skills tester/simulator.
It was such a long time ago, it was just a simple/small mechanical thing, with a helicopter joystick, and ball bearing(s) or similar (a bit like a kids toy, with ball-bearings and a simple puzzle layout, in a small hand-held case), which you had to safely control. Basically, I was completely hopeless at it, and couldn't even control it, even partially, for more than about a second or two. Then the simulated helicopter, would crash. I.e. The ball-bearing would hit the sides, or other out of control behavior. I then appreciated how immensely skillful and amazingly difficult, flying a helicopter, actually is.
So, I more put this, into that people just don't realize how little they know, until they significantly move into that new (to them), subject area.
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Put simply, the above members are not ridiculing a person
That's why social media is so poisonous. People forget that there's a real person that's the target of their comments. No, it's not just some made-up name you can metaphorically kick the shit out of without consequences.
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The formula has a different meaning in software engineering.
E = mc ^ 2
E = entropy increase of the universe
c = the speed of outsourcers
m = the mass of bloatware
I had a few customers who use to complain but it turned out sometimes to be what the manufacturer bundled with the operating system and their recovery disc image.
There one time when I was with someone ordering a new computer from Dell over the phone in 2010. This man had like a bowbell cockney accent. With the software he told them he just wanted Windows 7 Pro and that's it and the dvd to reinstall it (with no games or promotional stuff on there too). Then they kept on pestering him to buy Mcafee with it and their other stuff. He told them directly that "if you don't stop he'll shove discs up your bl**dy a**e and go somewhere else" then they are started to listen and sent him out one to his specifications and a non oem graphics card that he specified and someone around to install it in his house. He did purchase Mcafee which cost much more from somewhere else but apparently he don't like being pressure sold things.
I found it amazing how he got the message through with a little rudeness.
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Put simply, the above members are not ridiculing a person
That's why social media is so poisonous. People forget that there's a real person that's the target of their comments. No, it's not just some made-up name you can metaphorically kick the shit out of without consequences.
Yet, in a scientific or engineering discussions, we need honest feedback, and yes, even ridicule where ridicule is due: otherwise, we accept anything non-shit as perfect.
But the target is, and must be, always, our output –– even when talking face-to-face. The output can be modulated, controlled, adjusted; our person cannot. So, the desired change in attitude is to make sure that the focus of the ridicule is not the person, but the output.
("What you are saying is nuts", instead of "You're nuts". I know I fail in this too; my only defense is that I was about forty when I learned this: somewhat stuck in my habits. It is difficult to drop a habit that is repeated all around you, but at least I know it is something I want and need to work on.)
What I didn't like, is labeling OP "conspiracy theorist", because it is one of the labels used to mean "hey everyone, you need to ignore the output of this person; not because of the output, but because the person apparently belongs to this category". It is one of the terms that imply something completely different to what it actually means, just like "emotional intelligence", and a perfect example of strong tribalism even among science/engineering types in Western societies.
I am a conspiracy theorist. I do not believe in basically any of them, but I like to entertain them in order to understand the reasoning among those who do, and also because I find it fun to try and extrapolate the real world effects if it were true. I like reading about new conspiracy theories. I also like to read about new scientific theories and models, although I do not even consider their applicability/reliability until they are used to model or predict something physical. So, I am also a fringe theory aficionado. I don't mind entertaining things that have a very low probability of being useful/correct, as long as there is something related to that thing that I can learn that is; and usually, that thing is about the people who believe or discuss such things.
The difficulty, as in this thread, is when an OP is not interested in honest, critical feedback, but is seeking support.
Now, that support, is exactly why you get sub-reddits and whatnot where all sorts of inanity is amplified. Having observed some for a few years now, I do not think they actually believe in most of what they apparently agree with, as they are really there for the support and not critical or intellectual discourse. To feel not-alone, instead of actually examining their thoughts and ideas.
In other words, because of emotional reasons, and not for any kind of intellectual pursuits.
The human world is the kind of world where a good brand is worth more than any product.
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What I didn't like, is labeling OP "conspiracy theorist", because it is one of the labels used to mean "hey everyone, you need to ignore the output of this person; not because of the output, but because the person apparently belongs to this category".
The thing is (on practical grounds), there seem to have been a number of hardened, free-energy or somewhat similar, thread starting posters, who suddenly have appeared on this forum, over a number of years. They are just completely 110% convinced that their ideas, are absolutely correct.
E.g. That a shaky Youtube video, which shows someone (who is known to not be trustworthy), show a couple of magnets, and a large coil, supposedly produce unlimited free-energy, and is lighting up a filament bulb. With apparently no batteries or mains connections, at all. It just keeps on spinning and spinning, all by itself.
Despite a few pages (or more), of various attempts at explaining to them, that it is a scam and/or definitely won't work, and would defeat a number of well established laws of physics. They just keep on insisting, that it is real, and there really is free-energy. Typically resulting in the thread(s) eventually getting closed, and sometimes getting the OP banned, as well.
Hence me being very weary/precautionary, against coming across these free-energy, is real, ideas people. Talking them out of it, seems to be an uphill, and almost impossible task, at times.
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Hey I'm in software. We're really good at magicking gold from nothing. In fact the real trick is giving people shit in exchange for gold.
You're right, that works!
Let's check the mathematics. Given:
E = mc2
Since any software we write, create and sell to others. Is entirely weightless, and since we exchange the software, for money, which can be exchanged for Energy.
We get, E = Some positive money (e.g. £10K, with electricity very approximately at £0.30/kWh) = 33,333 kWh (approx).
m = Total weight/mass of software produced = 0.
Proving that:
E = mc2
Must be wrong somewhere? :-/O ::) :-\ 8) >:D
So, you can generate free-energy, in a limited (sit down and write software) sense.
(Just to be clear, this is written in jest, free-energy is still thought to be impossible, without some kind of tangible fuel source).
How do you figure that? Writing software requires brain activity (without getting into just how much or how little) which uses energy, typing it in/dictating it to an interface requires energy. Storing it requires both mass and energy, as does executing it.
E=mc2 expresses the equivalence of mass and energy, so even if there was no mass, the energy part of writing software has a mass equivalent. So it does not violate the first law of thermodynamics.
Some people might argue that it is an example of the second law at work, turning useful energy into random noise...
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a "bandit", who harms others and profits from this harm himsel
What could profit be? Presumably he is thinking money or status or similar, but suppose someone just enjoys harming someone else. Does his enjoyment count as profit? What if he has a grudge - someone else ran off with his girlfriend, perhaps, or nicked his motor - would 'taking down' the other person be profit since it might discourage others from doing the same?
Perhaps that section might better read as "a 'stupid person' who unwittingly does not derive gain from his harm to others".
I call my colleagues at my last job stupid. In their lack of understanding of what they were doing and never foreseeing the consequences they tried to bully me into submission, in their view they were staying on top and in control and had the status over me so were gaining, then I left, and I left them stupid as they then lost and became stupid as the pain of rebuilding what they lost in me the only person that understood my job and no longer being able to be seen be be top dog as they lost their under dog left them rather stupid.
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OK, thanks for clarifying.
The difficulty, as in this thread, is when an OP is not interested in honest, critical feedback, but is seeking support.
Yes, I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head there.
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What I didn't like, is labeling OP "conspiracy theorist", because it is one of the labels used to mean "hey everyone, you need to ignore the output of this person; not because of the output, but because the person apparently belongs to this category".
The thing is (on practical grounds), there seem to have been a number of hardened, free-energy or somewhat similar, thread starting posters, who suddenly have appeared on this forum, over a number of years. They are just completely 110% convinced that their ideas, are absolutely correct.
Sure, but just because they seem to form a group, does not mean they should be lumped into a group and summarily ignored based on "membership" in that group.
By all means, evaluate their output and make up your mind based on it –– I definitely do! ––, but do not use a surface similarity in their output to classify the person as someone to be ignored.
Talking them out of it, seems to be an uphill, and almost impossible task, at times.
Like I said, that seems to be because they're looking for support, and not critical examination of their ideas.
If they were critical of their own ideas, they'd be happy to receive reasoned counter-explanations with references. Which, in my opinion, are one of the best part in a technical discussion.
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He just wants to make enough noise that he gets noticed and a steady stream of cash comes into his piggy bank that he won't declare to the job centre when he gets back. I mean if he wanted to go big he should have copied elizabeth holmes more exactly.
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How do you figure that? Writing software requires brain activity (without getting into just how much or how little) which uses energy, typing it in/dictating it to an interface requires energy. Storing it requires both mass and energy, as does executing it.
E=mc2 expresses the equivalence of mass and energy, so even if there was no mass, the energy part of writing software has a mass equivalent. So it does not violate the first law of thermodynamics.
Some people might argue that it is an example of the second law at work, turning useful energy into random noise...
You're quite right. You have looked at the problem/situation (of a programmer), in a different way, to the way I was looking at it. I was referring to the actual software itself, the final product. Which has no mass as such associated with it.
But (quite right) you are pointing out, that in order to create, maintain and test/debug that software, probably (ignoring new AI systems), was done by human programmers, who expended energy, through living and breathing, and arguably other energy uses, while developing the software.
Such as fuel to get to/from the place the software was created (work or similar), heating/cooling energy, and other expenditures of energy, such as the computer systems, lighting, and perhaps other things.
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What I didn't like, is labeling OP "conspiracy theorist", because it is one of the labels used to mean "hey everyone, you need to ignore the output of this person; not because of the output, but because the person apparently belongs to this category".
The thing is (on practical grounds), there seem to have been a number of hardened, free-energy or somewhat similar, thread starting posters, who suddenly have appeared on this forum, over a number of years. They are just completely 110% convinced that their ideas, are absolutely correct.
Sure, but just because they seem to form a group, does not mean they should be lumped into a group and summarily ignored based on "membership" in that group.
By all means, evaluate their output and make up your mind based on it –– I definitely do! ––, but do not use a surface similarity in their output to classify the person as someone to be ignored.
Talking them out of it, seems to be an uphill, and almost impossible task, at times.
Like I said, that seems to be because they're looking for support, and not critical examination of their ideas.
If they were critical of their own ideas, they'd be happy to receive reasoned counter-explanations with references. Which, in my opinion, are one of the best part in a technical discussion.
Thanks. That's an interesting perspective, on the situation. Which makes a lot of sense, and explains a lot of the OP's responses (or lack of, as applicable), in this thread. In a sense, they have already made their mind up on this idea, decided it is absolutely and definitely 100% right and will 100% work, then closed their mind to all possible counter-arguments.
I try and get/see a decent/safe number of initial responses from the OP, before declaring them a no/little hope free-energy/perpetual-motion, kind of person. Finding their previous thread, on another forum. Which seems to have people, who are well clued up about physics, science and other related matters. Reading/glancing through that thread (linked to, in the very early stages of this thread, I think, by me), seemed to show someone who ignored good scientific advice, and instead. Will just continually throw up a big wall of word-salad, relative/arguable semi-nonsense, type of replies.
What does specifically annoy me about the OP. Is they seem to be intentionally hiding terms such as free-energy, perpetual-motion and such like. Because they know full well, such claims will rapidly get their thread closed, and replies of "it can't be done". Also, this complete nonsense, where you ask them a simple and straightforward question. Which instead of peacefully answering it, they just throw out this massive pile of word-salad. Which delays/hinders, attempts at trying to help the person.
Not trying to disagree with others in this thread. But as regards my opinion. I'm still not clear if the person is genuinely misguided or if there is some kind of scam or other nefarious reason, for all these threads (including other forum(s)).
The attempt to raise (I think) $15,000,000 by begging, is ridiculous, in my opinion. It should NOT be allowed. It's like a highly lazy and bordering on dishonest, kickstarter project. Which YouTubes Thunderf00t, would have a massive field day with. Taking the project apart, piece by piece.
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OK, thanks for clarifying.
The difficulty, as in this thread, is when an OP is not interested in honest, critical feedback, but is seeking support.
Yes, I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head there.
Although... the reverse also applies - if he did have the 'correct' interpretation, he might see us as not willing to be convinced and instead just rabbiting our existing misconceptions.
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dunkemhigh, thanks for your thoughts, it's never fair to 'blindly' use that 'conspiracy' lable. However, if I was a judge, sitting in middle of a court, I'd note that others, repeatedly, asked relatively innocent questions, and in resulting vacuum/ silence by OP, began suggesting the stability and validity wasn't solid.
I say 'stability' as the OP does instinctively revert to defense and outward directed aggression. That leads to minor scurcuffles between eevblog members, a little tiresome diversion. We need not argue, as OP does these aggressive over-reactions. That, plus these issues get extended even further, as OP insists on straying off into more, (and new here), sub-topics, like taking on Einstein and about all the mis-applied science coming from EVERYONE, ANYONE ELSE.
If I was presiding judge, I'd set some strict / clear guidance (to OP), what is needed to be supplied, in terms of response that can enable this process to 'conclude', by transition, to more normal exchanges.
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He just wants your money, that's the answer.... He has nothing to loose and everything to gain.
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Well that is until you tell him to fuck off :-DD
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well patience is not an untapped and limitless resource, it was rather over taxed and exhausted, I mean at first he was funny, then he was just not getting it that we would never buy it and persisted in making matters worse. If he wants to create an internet repository of arguments against his crazy ideas he is doing quite well but 25 pages was plenty to make the point.
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How do you figure that? Writing software requires brain activity (without getting into just how much or how little) which uses energy, typing it in/dictating it to an interface requires energy. Storing it requires both mass and energy, as does executing it.
E=mc2 expresses the equivalence of mass and energy, so even if there was no mass, the energy part of writing software has a mass equivalent. So it does not violate the first law of thermodynamics.
Some people might argue that it is an example of the second law at work, turning useful energy into random noise...
You're quite right. You have looked at the problem/situation (of a programmer), in a different way, to the way I was looking at it. I was referring to the actual software itself, the final product. Which has no mass as such associated with it.
But (quite right) you are pointing out, that in order to create, maintain and test/debug that software, probably (ignoring new AI systems), was done by human programmers, who expended energy, through living and breathing, and arguably other energy uses, while developing the software.
Such as fuel to get to/from the place the software was created (work or similar), heating/cooling energy, and other expenditures of energy, such as the computer systems, lighting, and perhaps other things.
Well, arguably, the information can't exist independently of the matter/energy it will be encoded upon, which grants it mass by default. This pretty much is encapsulated in the first law, one way or another.
If you try to remove the means by which the information exists, I'd say it pretty much follows the second law into entropic decay and meaninglessness. Meaninglessness... try saying that three times fast if you've had a sherry or two!
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Well, arguably, the information can't exist independently of the matter/energy it will be encoded upon, which grants it mass by default. This pretty much is encapsulated in the first law, one way or another.
If you try to remove the means by which the information exists, I'd say it pretty much follows the second law into entropic decay and meaninglessness. Meaninglessness... try saying that three times fast if you've had a sherry or two!
That is also, a good point.
The software encoding mechanism, could be extremely small, such as ever decreasing flash memory (physical), IC die area used for a particular software system storage. Which, compared to the amount of value (money), the software could sell for, could be in a big profit for the software, in some cases.
So in the future, the weight of software, given a hypothetical/theoretical computer system which writes the software, using almost zero energy, and a storage system so small, it also has hardly any mass. So, the figures for the energy (and hence mass), needed to both write and store energy, could be extremely small in the future.
But as you said, they both (software creation and software storage), need some kind of energy and/or mass in which to work. So it is potentially an ever decreasing figure, in the foreseeable future, but (arguably) never zero.
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Well, arguably, the information can't exist independently of the matter/energy it will be encoded upon, which grants it mass by default. This pretty much is encapsulated in the first law, one way or another.
If you try to remove the means by which the information exists, I'd say it pretty much follows the second law into entropic decay and meaninglessness. Meaninglessness... try saying that three times fast if you've had a sherry or two!
Maybe you've entered the debate zone that tries to answer the eternal sci-con question; does a Star Trek transporter move physical matter or just the information about the physical matter. Ergo, is Captain James T. Kirk physically destroyed every time Scotty beams him up to the Enterprise?
Furthermore, did storing information about matter on a DVD explain how Arnold J. Rimmer was able to exist as a hologram of his former self on Red Dwarf? Just how does entropy drain from stored information anway?
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AndyBeez: (your recent post)
Speculation about TRANSPORTER, in Star Trek; We never did that. The spoof movie 'Galaxy Quest' did do a comedic take, on malformed results from a botched transport cycle, but I'm not gonna spoil what happens.
WE did, circa. 1974, speculate over a 'baking joint', wondering is there, AN END to knowledge ?
That's some pretty baked shit, I'd like to be a fly on the wall (then), as WE slurred our speach:
(The 2 Ricks went on to Engineering, one ME and myself, EE, while 'Bill' became a Mortgage Broker.)
"Now pashhme that J, bro..." probably summed up the whole University culture then...not like now
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:popcorn:
(https://imgs.search.brave.com/9Npsx7-LqGdezYk9vnajuc9SCm7XsW1tr9Mjj0fAumY/rs:fit:1012:225:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly90c2Uy/Lm1tLmJpbmcubmV0/L3RoP2lkPU9JUC40/YTJmZi1NWlgtTGox/UGJJalhFWElRSGFE/ZSZwaWQ9QXBp)
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Well, arguably, the information can't exist independently of the matter/energy it will be encoded upon, which grants it mass by default. This pretty much is encapsulated in the first law, one way or another.
If you try to remove the means by which the information exists, I'd say it pretty much follows the second law into entropic decay and meaninglessness. Meaninglessness... try saying that three times fast if you've had a sherry or two!
Maybe you've entered the debate zone that tries to answer the eternal sci-con question; does a Star Trek transporter move physical matter or just the information about the physical matter. Ergo, is Captain James T. Kirk physically destroyed every time Scotty beams him up to the Enterprise?
Furthermore, did storing information about matter on a DVD explain how Arnold J. Rimmer was able to exist as a hologram of his former self on Red Dwarf? Just how does entropy drain from stored information anway?
It's not a real debate; the question for me was definitively answered in the TNG episode where Reg Barclay remains conscious during transport and grabs an "alien" which turns out to be a Starfleet crewperson trapped in the matter stream.
The idea that you would be destroyed and a replica created every time you used one just wouldn't fly; I wouldn't use it, and I can't imagine too many other people would either.
That would have to be one helluva DVD, the amount of information you'd have to store would be stupendous. Would you need to measure the state of every subatomic particle in the body, or just the nervous system and brain? Either way, instantaneously storing that quantity of information is so far beyond current capability as to be pure fantasy; it would make the CERN data link look trivial.
Entropy drains information by the equilibration of the parts of the system (whether it's a book or an iPad) to the point where it's not possible to differentiate between any two parts of it. Since information relies on differentiation, all (useful) information is lost.
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I suppose you sequence the DNA and then the state of mind and put it all back together at the other end.
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Beam that hernia away Scotty :popcorn:
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fix the hernia over the air in the DNA ;)
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Exactly!
Will go halves on that $15 million when we sell that to an investor yeah? :-DD
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You're ALL missing the point...(TIC), I was saying:
Us 3 guys, worked our way down, into Caverns, north of Santa Cruz. Way, way down, and, lights out, started debating a philosophical question:
Is there a stopping point, with all knowledge, or is knowledge 'infinite' ?
And, yeah; we were way more interested in the smokes, there 50 or 60 feet underground, (Star Trek maybe too 'clean cut'). The transporter thing maybe comes from obtaining 'infinite' knowledge, first. I did hear that a good slippery Star Trek uniform helps, with the transport.
That's from a noted YOGA Consultant (myself). Ahem.
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Just in case, someone from in the future, decides, maybe this idea has a tiny bit of merit, and free energy and/or perpetual motion machines, might be possible. Then please consider watching, this approximately 5 minute long video about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8ZsFszE8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8ZsFszE8I)
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Anyway. How about we try the Simple Simon approach to understanding gravity? We may even use an apple.
This first image shows how the inverse square law creates a potential difference on a compressible fluid such as water. It show how although A&B are equal and opposite, they are both positive values of potential energy from compression. It also shows that the potential energy loss is created by the head height or differential in distance away from Theta. With any hydro system this energy is turned into kinetic energy by creating an area of lower potential (air) and installing a turbine to exact the energy between the pressure differentials. This is well know as gravitational energy.
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The bottom paragraph is to understand the potential difference between the top and bottom of a wave. The maximum potential energy peak is the lowest point of the wave, this is where compression is at its highest. This is important for understanding tidal effects caused by the solar winds interaction with our magnetosphere. The potential differences created in the upper atmosphere are enormous, because it is an area of low potential energy (density) the abilty for a wave to create potential difference creates massive increases in velocity. This can be seen as altitude increases to the jet stream and further where we find wind speed increases considerable. As could be seen in the previous NASA illustration of the Hadley and Ferrell cells.
It should be remembered that gravity has been confirmed as a wave, waves can only propagate by changing a quantity. Mass is a fixed quantity that can not change. Density is mass with in a fixed volume, volume happens to be a key component of the inverse square LAW. Lets stict to laws please, fusion was a theory, just like relativity was a theory.
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Now lets get into the math of the inverse square LAW. The major point i have been trying to get across to you is the absence of the negative value to any central axis. However this hasnt worked so we are instead going to use the negative value, ignoring the fact the inverse square law is a volume calculation and negative measurements of distances are impossible. Oh well, i did try to tell you about being a mathimatical flat earther. So as shown in order to match reality the inverse square law for a 360° point source helical wave must become the square law as volume decreases. Even when using a negative value times by itself, 2 negatives becomes a positive when multipled thus making the arguemnet null and void anyway. Luckily all this has been measured by others and shown by me in previous images.
Incase it hasnt clicked yet, the theta axis is why all the field lines drawn on a flat peice of paper converge on the central axis. Its also called a Z-Pinch, if you want to understand magnetism then you have to include more than 1 perspective. Do not assume the arrows mean direction of propragation of the "field". They repersent the flight direction of a magnetic helical wave that generates a potential difference when rotated.
Next you will tell me the Earth doesnt rotate, and doesnt have a dipole with a quadrupole inside either end.
Hmm, Nice little helical potential difference generating magnetic wave. Powered by oh wait, fusion doesnt happen inside planets. Must be all that stored up perpetual motion you make fun of me with but arent switched on enough to see thats exactly what the current model is. "The Earth spins because its always spun, no were not saying its perpetual, it has just went on for a very long time, one day it will stop" - trust science.
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This simple Newtonian explaination shows that the apples potential energy is stored in its density. It only wants to reduce the potential difference between itself and the water in the bucket. Once it starts to fall the resistance between the apple and the water is a 1000 times less that the 1/10th less potential energy the apple has in comparison to the water and 1000 times higher than the surrounding air. The lower of resistance between 2 potentially different densitys has been mistaken as a store of gained potential energy, which violates the inverse square law that gravity itself follows.
Magnetism is also wrongly attributed to a store of energy. In order to say the uniform rotation of atmoic structure is a store of energy is to say that every atom should be constantly losing energy and everything stops. But that is not reality. Because if it was, 2 magnets rotating against each other would cool down until they reached absolute zero, but they dont. Infact they can be pulled apart and still generate a stationary dipole field.
P.s i signed and dated the drawings. Good luck to the bot that can do that.
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Although... the reverse also applies - if he did have the 'correct' interpretation, he might see us as not willing to be convinced and instead just rabbiting our existing misconceptions.
A major sign of intelligence is empathy. It comes from the ability to place yourself in others shoes. Thank you.
Lets see if you can apply that to this annoyingly complex scenario. You and I are standing facing each other, while walking sideways around a table juggling 2 balls. We are rotating our balls 1 rotation around their own axis for every turn around the central axis both balls are rotating between us, this takes 360° around the table to complete any 1 full revolution. This is us walking out the flight path of a equal and opposite double helical rotational motion. Also found in the hydrogen atom. This is where it gets slightly complicated, we are going to attach 8 ballons in the forward and rear facing poloidal directions. 2 red and 2 blue balloons in either dipole are formed by 2 rotating objects in motion around a common axis. Now to further add to the complexity each ballon is also rotating at the same speed as the balls rotate and in the same direction. This means we both view the north/south dipole as rotating clockwise or anticlockwise, this happens because all balloon surfaces are rotating in the same direction to any persperctive. Therefore making a quadrupole look like a dipole when only looking for a change in force perpendicular to the direction of travel.
Unfortunately there is further complexity to fully understand magnetism. You must realise that any opposite observer will always view the quadrupole colour as opposite to you. Im colour blind 2 you, where you see red i must see blue. When you finally get this you will understand why they say the north pole is really the south pole. There are 2 ways to look at it. From above or from below.
Now these magical balloons have one more thing to do, all 8 must be tied together along the z axis inbetween our rotating balls.
Now we are going to walk the 8 balloons and 2 balls while rotating them all and notice the change in force associated relevant to the spin direction of motion. We are going to notice the 2 red ballons combine to form a peak for you while i see 2 blue ballons and fell the opposite force. Then them ballons are going to switch and you see 2 blue in a line to me and i see 2 red. This is what produces the change measured by Maxwell.
The problem is... 1 pair of equal and opposite reactions have created 4 opposites, a negative and positive in 2 seperate plains that mathimatically arent the same but actually are every 90° of rotation.
Back to the experiment. Now im going to take my own set of 8 balls and 2 balls, and we are going to geo synchronise their rotation around the toroid. It just so happens the only way to do this is inside a spherical cage on motor bikes. Juggling. Or look at the 3 hydrogen atoms i posted earlier. As noted earlier the quadrupoles align in opposite to the one beside it. The fast they spin along the z axis, the more compressed our forward facing ballons get. This increase energy density in the forward dipoles. Dipoles create electrostatic force. Quadrupole create coulomb's force because of this compression of the forward lobe compared to the rear lobe. Electrostatic force isnt effected because each dipole is compressed the same.
All helical waves, including those of electricity, magnetisms, light and gravity can be described as 3 dimensional helical compression waves travelling though a compressible medium. This can be shown where large speakers create loops and nodes that can levitate a table tennis ball. The potential difference creates a trap similar to that produces by the paul trap.
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I'm in a mood for this game right now, so I'll have a go this once.
This simple Newtonian explaination shows that the apples potential energy is stored in its density.
Nope. A kilogram of lead has the exact same gravitational potential energy as a kilogram of feathers. This has been experimentally proven.
Density is just a measure of the distribution of mass. For any object, its density is its mass divided by its volume, and has dimensions [mass]/[length]3.
It only wants to reduce the potential difference between itself and the water in the bucket.
Nope. The potential energy of an apple in air, and the same apple in the same location but inside a bucket of water, is the same. So is the density of the apple, too. While this does require somewhat costly equipment (due to immersion in water instead of air!), it is not difficult to prove experimentally.
In order to say the uniform rotation of atmoic structure is a store of energy is to say that every atom should be constantly losing energy and everything stops.
No, the two are completely separate concepts.
Anything rotating is a store of energy. In rotating systems, angular momentum is conserved, including in large weather systems like tropical cyclones.
Atoms do not rotate by themselves, electrons do not rotate around atomic nuclei. Electrons do not form an atmosphere around atoms. The terms "electron orbital" and "electron cloud" refers to the basic shape of the electron wave function, and have nothing to do with atmospheric phenomena.
It should be remembered that gravity has been confirmed as a wave, waves can only propagate by changing a quantity.
No. Gravity is not a wave.
Gravitational waves refer to a phenomena where the spacetime itself contracts and expands like a wave on the surface of a pond. This happens, when very heavy, very small objects accelerate or decelerate. The ones we have thus far detected are from colliding neutron stars or similar or heavier stellar objects.
What it means, is that spacetime itself is something that can carry a wave, just like the surface of the water –– or more aptly, like sound waves in a medium like air. It is not a static fixed coordinate system like Newtonian mechanics would imply: it is something much more malleable. Albeit it takes a lot of energy to cause such effects.
Simply put, it is called "gravitational wave" because the cause is related to accelerating steep gravity wells; it is spacetime itself that carries the wave.
volume happens to be a key component of the inverse square LAW
No, it isn't. Volume would actually correspond to a cubic or inverse cubic law, because we have three spatial dimensions.
That is, we measure volume using units of [length]3, not [length]2.
a magnetic helical wave that generates a potential difference when rotated
No, that's just word salad you hoped was complex and wonderful enough to cover the lack of understanding. I did something similar as a child, when I wanted to impress others. Then I found out the universe was vaster and more complex than I could ever understand, and stopped doing that, because it occurred to me that actual observations and scientific experiments are more interesting than any fiction. The fact that I do not understand everything is a given, and the starting point; any understanding gained is a win, and we find out most effectively if we apply the scientific method and cooperate – that includes no more fibbing and hiding behind jargon.
Magnetic fields have both strength and direction. The direction, magnetic flux, has no start or end, and only form continuous loops. (That is what ∇·B=0, Gauss's law for magnetism, means.) In vacuum, the strength H is related to the flux via H = B/µ₀, where µ₀ is vacuum permeability. Outside of vacuum, it depends on the magnetization and permeability. Because of this, the flux cannot "cross" itself: the field strength would increase dramatically there, and something would need to cause it –– in pure vacuum, it cannot happen.
How would you describe the magnetic flux B in a "magnetic helical wave"? Preferably mathematically, so that it can be reproduced and properly examined in all four dimensions –– remember, it's supposed to be a wave, not a static magnetic field.
I'll give you a hand. "Magnetic helical waves" do not exist, because it would require infinitely twisted magnetic field, or magnetic monopoles. Neither has ever been discovered in probably millions of practical experiments. If you try to save that idea by using two oppositely twisted magnetical helical waves, you end up with intersecting field lines, which in turn means unphysically high field strengths. If you invent a structure of helices that avoids intersections, you still have the problem of exactly what is causing the magnetic field; and that in the near-vacuum of space, there just isn't anything that could cause such.
Finally, "a helix that when rotated, generates a potential difference" is a non-starter. By definition, an uniform helix has axial-rotational symmetry, such that both rotating it and moving it forwards or backwards by a suitable amount, the exact same shape repeats. Thus, rotation is no different from propagation when helices are involved. Besides, "when rotated", how? By hand? No, seriously.
It is most useful to concentrate on finding out how things happen. This is the core of physics: modeling practical reality, so that phenomena can be described and results predicted to an useful degree. Thinking up hugely complex mechanisms of why things happen, then covering the how part with mushy descriptions, can be fun, but is not useful physics. It's just like in software: there are millions of people who have the best idea since sliced bread, and just need a typist-programmer to type it for them for a couple of hundred of dollars, to become millionaires! But the darn programmers are so uppity and full of them that they refuse, probably just to keep their own salaries up. No, the truth is that the idea is worth nearly nothing, because the implementation requires a lot of hard work. Similarly, the soft mushy adjective-y descriptions as in post #843 describe an idea with no reliable, reproducible details on how.
We don't use math to describe the details because we are so uppity; we use it because it is the best language we have for such descriptions. If you don't want to use math for these descriptions, you should ask yourself why.
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That was poor, especially not recognising the propagating 3 dimensional wave expanding at an identical rate as surface expansion of a sphere relative to the distances from the center point. Its literally in every graphical display. Oh boy....
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Non-Linda-Narian:
Ahh GOTCHA, and in first paragraph:
"...consider water, a COMPRESSIBLE fluid, ..."
NOooo. Just saw that one busted, last night, watching Myth busters 2013 rerun; Test Dummy got massicured sitting between two giant water bags.
Comeon, let's debate this.
"...the opto-resonant, are we to believe, the dual hyperhelical, leaving aside that water, orange juice, whatever is 'INDECOMPRESS-IABLE, then how do you answer the spin riddle ? Because you can't...gotcha
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Oh well, anyway, at least (OP) has remembered to do their 'proper paragraph breaks, as instructed, so we got that, going on.
I'd be carefull, myself, when bringing a young BOT here, to graze on smartedness.. Could pick up on some bad, nasty (human) habits...like DISAPPEARING for one week. Oh wait, that already, uh
Can we go back to discussing 'stupid', please?
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not recognising the propagating 3 dimensional wave expanding at an identical rate as surface expansion of a sphere relative to the distances from the center point.
That has nothing to do with volume, and everything to do with surface area. It is surface area that grows as the square of distance: \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$. You have shown nothing that relates volume (which, for a sphere, would be \$\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3\$) to any inverse square law.
I may be poor, but I'm not too bad at physics, really.
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Ah more contributions to the ever increasing entropy of the universe.
I’m going to just sit here and watch it burn now.
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not recognising the propagating 3 dimensional wave expanding at an identical rate as surface expansion of a sphere relative to the distances from the center point.
That has nothing to do with volume, and everything to do with surface area. It is surface area that grows as the square of distance: \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$. You have shown nothing that relates volume (which, for a sphere, would be \$\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3\$) to any inverse square law.
I may be poor, but I'm not too bad at physics, really.
Unfortunately the evidence suggest otherwise. Not noticing that the surface area of a sphere increases in direct relationship with the increase in volume of a sphere is poor physics, sorry. I cant believe you came back for more by trying to make me look bad a physics.
Remember the wave is expanding outward from source in all directions, it expands into the increasing volume of the sphere, which results in energy being lost in direct relationships to the increased surface area of the sphere.
This is the basis for the conservative of energy. Its why waves propagate over great distances without losing energy to other influences, other than area aka volume, since energy and potential difference are part area measurements as well, it becomes important to understand. Esp whe talking about 360° point sources, which compress towards a secondary point source. With volume decreasing.
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Non-Linda-Narian:
Ahh GOTCHA, and in first paragraph:
"...consider water, a COMPRESSIBLE fluid, ..."
NOooo. Just saw that one busted, last night, watching Myth busters 2013 rerun; Test Dummy got massicured sitting between two giant water bags.
Comeon, let's debate this.
"...the opto-resonant, are we to believe, the dual hyperhelical, leaving aside that water, orange juice, whatever is 'INDECOMPRESS-IABLE, then how do you answer the spin riddle ? Because you can't...gotcha
Try making more sense in your replys. It increase the chance i will take it seriously and actually reply.
Just because something cant be compressed very far, does not mean that it does not increase in density as the depth of the fluid increases. The same is true for orange juice. So no im not debating the absolute basics of fluid dynamics, esp when your questions are so poorly formulated.
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Loser.
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Not noticing that the surface area of a sphere increases in direct relationship with the increase in volume of a sphere is poor physics, sorry.
What? Not noticing that birds can fly is also poor physics. Neither has anything to do with the discussion at hand.
You claimed that "volume happens to be a key component of the inverse square LAW". I just pointed out that it isn't; that it is the relationship between distance and surface area that directly leads to the inverse square law. There is no volume, and definitely no increase in volume.
I cant believe you came back for more by trying to make me look bad a physics.
I'm not doing anything of that sort; I'm just pointing out the misconceptions and errors in your description.
(I do wonder, though, which one of the last two words above has the typo. Is is a missing t, or jumbled letters with a c turned into an s?)
Remember the wave is expanding outward from source in all directions, it expands into the increasing volume of the sphere
No. It does not expand into "the increasing volume of the sphere".
As the wave propagates, the area of the wavefront increases as \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$ where \$r\$ is the distance travelled by the wavefront. There is no volume involved.
Instead of a continuous wave, consider a pulse-like waveform. The volume of the pulse (technically, the volume in which the pulse exceeds a given intensity threshold), is a spherical shell whose thickness is the pulse width \$w\$: \$V(r) = \frac{4}{3} \pi (r^3 - w^3)\$. This is a cubic relationship, \$r^3\$, and therefore not related at all to the inverse square law.
The peak of the pulse occurs at a given distance from the source, and its area is \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$. Another way to put it is that the pulse intensity is constant in each solid angle distended from the source, and it is the area of the solid angle that depends on the square of the distance. Because the intensity is uniformly spread across this solid angle and therefore the surface area, the intensity at distance \$r\$ is inversely proportional to the square of the distance; this being the inverse-square law by definition. Volume is not involved.
energy and potential difference are part area measurements as well.
No, they are not.
Potential differences are measured at two or more different points. There is no area (or volume) involved.
Energy has no area or volume dependence at all, either.
This isn't fun if you don't counter my points, and only pile on additional word salad in an effort to hide the errors in your description. Remember, anyone can read this thread, and those without your emotional investment on your word salad are probably wondering why you do not respond to my points about the errors in your description, especially because those points are something anyone can research and even experimentally verify for themselves.
I do lose my interest when this becomes a social game – "I don't find your arguments sophisticated enough to answer" –, so if your goal is to avoid responding to my points, I suggest you try that route; it tends to work.
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Non-Linda-Narian:
Ahh GOTCHA, and in first paragraph:
"...consider water, a COMPRESSIBLE fluid, ..."
NOooo. Just saw that one busted, last night, watching Myth busters 2013 rerun; Test Dummy got massicured sitting between two giant water bags.
Comeon, let's debate this.
"...the opto-resonant, are we to believe, the dual hyperhelical, leaving aside that water, orange juice, whatever is 'INDECOMPRESS-IABLE, then how do you answer the spin riddle ? Because you can't...gotcha
Try making more sense in your replys. It increase the chance i will take it seriously and actually reply.
Just because something cant be compressed very far, does not mean that it does not increase in density as the depth of the fluid increases. The same is true for orange juice. So no im not debating the absolute basics of fluid dynamics, esp when your questions are so poorly formulated.
Oh the fucking irony there is making my sides hurt.
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What? Not noticing that birds can fly is also poor physics. Neither has anything to do with the discussion at hand.
You claimed that "volume happens to be a key component of the inverse square LAW". I just pointed out that it isn't; that it is the relationship between distance and surface area that directly leads to the inverse square law. There is no volume, and definitely no increase in volume.
Surface area and distance equal volume. Therefore any distance measurement under a helical wave must contains a volume component, consider the attached expansion of the helical wave function. ("Fibonacci time spiral") This happens to be the shape that produces the "electron cloud" you mentioned previously. This shape explains the outward north/south/north declination to each dipole of the hydrogen atom wave function, attached on the page 34.
I'm not doing anything of that sort; I'm just pointing out the misconceptions and errors in your description.
(I do wonder, though, which one of the last two words above has the typo. Is is a missing t, or jumbled letters with an s turned into a c?)
No. It does not expand into "the increasing volume of the sphere".
As the wave propagates, the area of the wavefront increases as \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$ where \$r\$ is the distance travelled by the wavefront. There is no volume involved.
Again as soon as distance is used as a measurment from a point source, volume inevitably becomes part of the equation. Hence the requirement for PI(r^3) in your equation below. R is distance from point source. By times the distance by itself 3 times you get a volume measurment. To quote you " spherical shell" & "cubic relationship", followed closely with "has no relationship to the inverse square law" even although surface area of a sphere increased inversely to the volume. Thats called an identical relationship.
Instead of a continuous wave, consider a pulse-like waveform. The volume of the pulse (technically, the volume in which the pulse exceeds a given intensity threshold), is a spherical shell whose thickness is the pulse width \$w\$: \$V(r) = \frac{4}{3} \pi (r^3 - w^3)\$. This is a cubic relationship, \$r^3\$, and therefore not related at all to the inverse square law.
The peak of the pulse occurs at a given distance from the source, and its area is \$A(r) = 4 \pi r^2\$. Another way to put it is that the pulse intensity is constant in each solid angle distended from the source, and it is the area of the solid angle that depends on the square of the distance. Because the intensity is uniformly spread across this solid angle and therefore the surface area, the intensity at distance \$r\$ is inversely proportional to the square of the distance; this being the inverse-square law by definition. Volume is not involved.
energy and potential difference are part area measurements as well.
No, they are not.
Potential differences are measured at two or more different points. There is no area (or volume) involved.
If you go back a long way in this thread, i was previously hounded for not using the correct term for potential difference. I used voltage as short hand method, and was correctly corrected to use the term volts per meter cubed. Again as soon as distance becomes a measurement between potential difference then it becomes a volume measurment. This is how 3 dimensional space works. Its flat earther stuff to say volume is not relevent to energy propagation as soon as the wave travels a distance
Energy has no area or volume dependence at all, either.
Its called density. Energy DENSITY. Density requires a volume to be defined before any measurement can be taken.
This isn't fun if you don't counter my points, and only pile on additional word salad in an effort to hide the errors in your description. Remember, anyone can read this thread, and those without your emotional investment on your word salad are probably wondering why you do not respond to my points about the errors in your description, especially because those points are something anyone can research and even experimentally verify for themselves.
I do lose my interest when this becomes a social game – "I don't find your arguments sophisticated enough to answer" –, so if your goal is to avoid responding to my points, I suggest you try that route; it tends to work.
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Non-Linda-Narian:
Ahh GOTCHA, and in first paragraph:
"...consider water, a COMPRESSIBLE fluid, ..."
NOooo. Just saw that one busted, last night, watching Myth busters 2013 rerun; Test Dummy got massicured sitting between two giant water bags.
Comeon, let's debate this.
"...the opto-resonant, are we to believe, the dual hyperhelical, leaving aside that water, orange juice, whatever is 'INDECOMPRESS-IABLE, then how do you answer the spin riddle ? Because you can't...gotcha
Try making more sense in your replys. It increase the chance i will take it seriously and actually reply.
Just because something cant be compressed very far, does not mean that it does not increase in density as the depth of the fluid increases. The same is true for orange juice. So no im not debating the absolute basics of fluid dynamics, esp when your questions are so poorly formulated.
Oh the fucking irony there is making my sides hurt.
In fairness, you could have just believed me that a compression wave compresses
Or that the potential energy stored in a compressed medium is exacted by creating a potential difference.
or that non linear plasma currents expands and linear plasma currents attracts. Coulombs LAW
It is not me who makes it complicated, it is as simply as appling more than 1 perspective to anything rotating. Complicated to explain, easy to do if you apply urself to the task.
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This thread is hilarious, it's like that capacitor amplifier guy but actually capable of elaborating on his theories :-DD
Well, OP, for your information:
Density waves are a well studied phenomenon, also known as sound. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Tides store energy in displacement of water and pushing it up against Earth's gravity, not compression.
Not sure what's your issue with planets rotating, obviously they are big chunks of mass with a ton of stored kinetic energy. They are slowing down.
Didn't bother reading further for now ::)
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This thread is hilarious, it's like that capacitor amplifier guy but actually capable of elaborating on his theories :-DD
Well, OP, for your information:
Density waves are a well studied phenomenon, also known as sound. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Tides store energy in displacement of water and pushing it up against Earth's gravity, not compression.
Not sure what's your issue with planets rotating, obviously they are big chunks of mass with a ton of stored kinetic energy. They are slowing down.
Didn't bother reading further for now ::)
Yet again your ignorance of the facts are astonishing. Planet Earth is NOT slowing down. This has been show before. 2020 had over 26 of the shortest days on record.
Yes big chunkc of mass rotating inside a specific volume for planets with a crust, or a changable volume if no solid surface exists, thus density becomes a factor in the production of both gravity and magnetism. This becomes increasingly important when talking about charge density around a toroid and how the kinetic energy from rotation increases potential energy in the toroid as speed increases. This is simply applying coulomb's law to rotating charge particles next to each other and/or opposite each other in a toroid.
I can elaborate because my theory is 3 dimensional and explaining the mechanism for well know LAWS of physics, such as the inverse square law and coulomb's law.
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Well, have fun with that. Link us to a YouTube video when you have a working prototype instead of handwaving.
:popcorn:
And by the way, I will repeat: I doubt anyone in the space industry will believe you, but you may have luck getting funding for it from the EU if you tell them it's for electric cars, green power plants, obsoleting fission power with its inherent risks, independence from Russia, etc. Just a friendly hint, and I have my own interest in it too, because I want to see the EU burn ;D
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Well, have fun with that. Link us to a YouTube video when you have a working prototype instead of handwaving.
:popcorn:
And by the way, I will repeat: I doubt anyone in the space industry will believe you, but you may have luck getting funding for it from the EU if you tell them it's for electric cars, green power plants, obsoleting fission power with its inherent risks, independence from Russia, etc. Just a friendly hint, and I have my own interest in it too, because I want to see the EU burn ;D
When im successful, it will allow the world to run on decentralized energy. If you know anything about the economics of available energy in relation to a countries ability to advance. Then you should see the plasma reactor as a threat to the only meaningful control any goverment has over of your ability to supply your community with energy for food and water. Making the EU redundant. They fund fusion (scam) and renewables (scam) and electric cars (scam) because they know it increases our reliance on gas.
If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered. Would you have believed me, given that it uses both the toroid from the tokamaks and the z pinch from other fusion research? Combining them into 1 big bullshit fusion reactor? But i didnt lie. I could have.
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If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered.
In simple terms. How exactly is it powered?
I.e. What is its fuel source?
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If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered.
In simple terms. How exactly is it powered?
I.e. What is its fuel source?
Duh, it's powered by refined fantasium, and the structural components are pure unobtainium.
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If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered.
In simple terms. How exactly is it powered?
I.e. What is its fuel source?
What is the fuel source of jupiter? Whatever that is? it uses the same one.
I have explained how it works countless times. Compressed fluids release energy by expanding. Compression waves create compression of fluid. In 3 dimensions this produces a large potential difference as the compression wave converges on the Z axis, forming a Z pinch. This creates kinetic energy out of potential energy, when a turbine blade is place between the 2 potentials. (This is how wind turbines work)
Im literally copying every form of energy extraction process we currently use and some how its bonkers idea.
Even showing you how electricity is an exponential energy peak on the z axis of a rotating current wave.
This thread is going to show how well history repeats itself.
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If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered.
In simple terms. How exactly is it powered?
I.e. What is its fuel source?
What is the fuel source of jupiter? Whatever that is? it uses the same one.
I have explained how it works countless times. Compressed fluids release energy by expanding. Compression waves create compression of fluid. In 3 dimensions this produces a large potential difference as the compression wave converges on the Z axis, forming a Z pinch. This creates kinetic energy out of potential energy, when a turbine blade is place between the 2 potentials. (This is how wind turbines work)
Im literally copying every form of energy extraction process we currently use and some how its bonkers idea.
Even showing you how electricity is an exponential energy peak on the z axis of a rotating current wave.
This thread is going to show how well history repeats itself.
That isn't an answer to my question. You are attempting to ask me a different question, and suggesting you have already answered the question, with your previous replies.
I'll repeat the question.
What is the fuel source?
I.e. What material/substance gets consumed/used-up, to power the device?
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If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered.
In simple terms. How exactly is it powered?
I.e. What is its fuel source?
Duh, it's powered by refined fantasium, and the structural components are pure unobtainium.
Careful might piss off some of the blue guys getting that unobtainium.
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Well, have fun with that. Link us to a YouTube video when you have a working prototype instead of handwaving.
:popcorn:
And by the way, I will repeat: I doubt anyone in the space industry will believe you, but you may have luck getting funding for it from the EU if you tell them it's for electric cars, green power plants, obsoleting fission power with its inherent risks, independence from Russia, etc. Just a friendly hint, and I have my own interest in it too, because I want to see the EU burn ;D
When im successful, it will allow the world to run on decentralized energy. If you know anything about the economics of available energy in relation to a countries ability to advance. Then you should see the plasma reactor as a threat to the only meaningful control any goverment has over of your ability to supply your community with energy for food and water. Making the EU redundant. They fund fusion (scam) and renewables (scam) and electric cars (scam) because they know it increases our reliance on gas.
If i had lied and told you this was fusion powered. Would you have believed me, given that it uses both the toroid from the tokamaks and the z pinch from other fusion research? Combining them into 1 big bullshit fusion reactor? But i didnt lie. I could have.
Starting to show your true colours? So all of these are scams, but yours isn't?
Fusion Reactor: A work in progress, we don't know yet whether it will work, but the research is a lot further than yours is.
Renewables: They promise to generate energy from wind/water/sun etc and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
Electric cars: They promise to transport you from A to B using a battery powered electric motor instead of a combustion engine and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
And as for "Making the EU redundant" :D You obviously don't know or understand all the things the EU does. They are not a power company, they do lots of other stuff too.
McBryce.
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Starting to show your true colours? So all of these are scams, but yours isn't?
Fusion Reactor: A work in progress, we don't know yet whether it will work, but the research is a lot further than yours is.
Renewables: They promise to generate energy from wind/water/sun etc and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
Electric cars: They promise to transport you from A to B using a battery powered electric motor instead of a combustion engine and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
And as for "Making the EU redundant" :D You obviously don't know or understand all the things the EU does. They are not a power company, they do lots of other stuff too.
McBryce.
Correct, they are scams and the plasma reactor isnt.
Fusion is a scam because its a by product of compression.
Wind is a scam because it increases the reliance on natural gas to supply the grid while cause larger fluctuations in energy price. This results in greater profit as the loses are past on to the consumer.
Electric cars are good, but imagine them with out the battery.
As for the EU, i was only making a point in regards to the others persons opinion of letting them burn. You some how read into that as me thinking the eu is a power company. Although it should be obvious that energy is an important factor in the economic productivity of a region and since that is the matrix on which we measure a countries ability to produce goods. GDP becomes highly related to availability of energy output. Most obvious is oil and its uses as "backing" for the petrodollar
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That isn't an answer to my question. You are attempting to ask me a different question, and suggesting you have already answered the question, with your previous replies.
I'll repeat the question.
What is the fuel source?
I.e. What material/substance gets consumed/used-up, to power the device?
It is answering your question. None of these mass use a fuel source yet generate a magnetic field.
I will repeat my question.
What is your fuel source for generating the magnetic field of Earth and Jupiter? What material or substance get used up? What generates the heat and "convection currents" what moves fluid around the interia of the planet? That takes energy where is the fuel source?
We know it does because the earth core processes inside the planet. The same thing happen on the sun and cause the magnetic change between solar min and max. Earth is currently going tho this change. Where is your mechanism for that?
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That isn't an answer to my question. You are attempting to ask me a different question, and suggesting you have already answered the question, with your previous replies.
I'll repeat the question.
What is the fuel source?
I.e. What material/substance gets consumed/used-up, to power the device?
It is answering your question. None of these mass use a fuel source yet generate a magnetic field.
I will repeat my question.
What is your fuel source for generating the magnetic field of Earth and Jupiter? What material or substance get used up? What generates the heat and "convection currents" what moves fluid around the interia of the planet? That takes energy where is the fuel source?
We know it does because the earth core processes inside the planet. The same thing happen on the sun and cause the magnetic change between solar min and max. Earth is currently going tho this change. Where is your mechanism for that?
Let me check my understanding.
- You are saying there is no fuel source (mass consumption (fusion/fission) or conventional energy source, such as chemical energy, released when burning fuel in air), i.e. it is FREE ENERGY or a PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE (coming from magnetism, if I understand your response)
- I asked a supposedly simple and straightforward question. Asking such questions shouldn't be getting you to attempt to ask me questions, except to clarify what my question was, and other reasonable exceptions
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Starting to show your true colours? So all of these are scams, but yours isn't?
Fusion Reactor: A work in progress, we don't know yet whether it will work, but the research is a lot further than yours is.
Renewables: They promise to generate energy from wind/water/sun etc and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
Electric cars: They promise to transport you from A to B using a battery powered electric motor instead of a combustion engine and that's exactly what they do. Where's the scam?
And as for "Making the EU redundant" :D You obviously don't know or understand all the things the EU does. They are not a power company, they do lots of other stuff too.
McBryce.
Correct, they are scams and the plasma reactor isnt.
Fusion is a scam because its a by product of compression.
Wind is a scam because it increases the reliance on natural gas to supply the grid while cause larger fluctuations in energy price. This results in greater profit as the loses are past on to the consumer.
Electric cars are good, but imagine them with out the battery.
As for the EU, i was only making a point in regards to the others persons opinion of letting them burn. You some how read into that as me thinking the eu is a power company. Although it should be obvious that energy is an important factor in the economic productivity of a region and since that is the matrix on which we measure a countries ability to produce goods. GDP becomes highly related to availability of energy output. Most obvious is oil and its uses as "backing" for the petrodollar
Why do wind generators need gas? (other than the air moving them which is a free by-product of heat coming from the sun)
And why would I imagine an electric car without a battery?? Are you saying that any battery powered device is a scam because it doesn't work if you remove the battery??
McBryce.
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For the people still interesting in trying to change their perspective of magnetism from 2D field lines to 3D wave functions, then here is a nice little graphic i made. Hopefully you can see how the rotation of the expanding wave changes its direction of rotation to a stationary observer on the equatorial axis.
I must repeat that the wave is travelling outward in both directions but the flight direction of the rotation of the helical wave is in the same direction tho the central axis, it then loops over in 3 dimensions going in the opposite way before returning tho the center. This is the endless current loop formed from a primary rotating current in the toroid, equal and opposite at all points apart from volume, colliding on the poloidal axis to creat the highest potential energy, aka the imaginary field line, with the arrow repersenting only the direction of helical rotation, not the wave function propagation direction, which is from center of source outward.
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Let me check my understanding.
- You are saying there is no fuel source (mass consumption (fusion/fission) or conventional energy source, such as chemical energy, released when burning fuel in air), i.e. it is FREE ENERGY or a PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE (coming from magnetism, if I understand your response)
- I asked a supposedly simple and straightforward question. Asking such questions shouldn't be getting you to attempt to ask me questions, except to clarify what my question was, and other reasonable exceptions
I dont consider magnetism free energy, i consider it a method of turning static potential energy into usable kinetic energy by apply rotation to the static potential. Effectively using the potential energy gradient on the z pinch which is a secondary current to rotated and therefore maintain the rotation that generates it. Since we know rotating objects rotate for a very long time with out adding a secondary source of kinetic energy, we can assume the plasma reactor will not require much energy to maintain the production of its rotating magnetic field.
Check comment below, "free by product of heat" are all the "convection currents" inside earth free by products of heat? Where is the energy coming from for that? Oh yeah its FREE ENERGY and Perpetual motion all rolled into 1 without a mechanism for anything
I ask these questions because you apply them to me and then say im wrong because here is how someone else says it works but for some reason you dont need to apply the same arguement to that as you do to mine.
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I dont consider magnetism free energy, i consider it a method of turning static potential energy into usable kinetic energy by apply rotation to the static potential.
Ah, I see. That must be the same fundamental principle used in all those motors which run on permanent magnets only, without the need for any additional power source?
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Why do wind generators need gas? (other than the air moving them which is a free by-product of heat coming from the sun)
And why would I imagine an electric car without a battery?? Are you saying that any battery powered device is a scam because it doesn't work if you remove the battery??
McBryce.
Wind generators dont need gas, the grid does when power output drops. You literally have hydrostorage supplies withholding energy from the grid to force the price up as lines become critical. This was the objective of renewable energy. Hence BP and Total had a large marketing campaign supporting renewables.
There is no variability of production with coal or fission. This leads to stable prices that reduce profits for the suppliers of energy.
Air movement in multiple continuous helical waves around the planet. How does heat rising create these patterns. Is heat/light an electromagnetic helical wave?
No im say a battery stores energy generated by kinetic energy
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I dont consider magnetism free energy, i consider it a method of turning static potential energy into usable kinetic energy by apply rotation to the static potential.
Ah, I see. That must be the same fundamental principle used in all those motors which run on permanent magnets only, without the need for any additional power source?
Yeah ive heard using kinetic energy to rotate a generator produces the "additional power source".
In the plasma reactor the secondary current becomes the additional power source. Like a spinning top, once set in motion, motion is easy to maintain with very limited input of energy. Have you ever driven? Did you burn less fuel not staying at a steady speed?
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Why do wind generators need gas? (other than the air moving them which is a free by-product of heat coming from the sun)
And why would I imagine an electric car without a battery?? Are you saying that any battery powered device is a scam because it doesn't work if you remove the battery??
McBryce.
Wind generators dont need gas, the grid does when power output drops. You literally have hydrostorage supplies withholding energy from the grid to force the price up as lines become critical. This was the objective of renewable energy. Hence BP and Total had a large marketing campaign supporting renewables.
There is no variability of production with coal or fission. This leads to stable prices that reduce profits for the suppliers of energy.
Air movement in multiple continuous helical waves around the planet. How does heat rising create these patterns. Is heat/light an electromagnetic helical wave?
No im say a battery stores energy generated by kinetic energy
Wow, you really have been on the Coolaid. So just because a wind generator can't supply the entire grid all of the time that makes it a scam?
Then apples must be a scam too, because I need to eat other things to stay alive despite having a nice bowl of apples to munch on?
Can I interest you in a newly folded tinfoil hat?
McBryce.
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Wow, you really have been on the Coolaid. So just because a wind generator can't supply the entire grid all of the time that makes it a scam?
Then apples must be a scam too, because I need to eat other things to stay alive despite having a nice bowl of apples to munch on?
Can I interest you in a newly folded tinfoil hat?
McBryce.
You need to expand your thinking. The scam isnt in the wind turbine pr its design, the scam is in an oil and gas company selling you the idea so they can sell more gas. Honestly please consider things a little deeper before assuming i get my information from the talking heads on the tv
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Wow, you really have been on the Coolaid. So just because a wind generator can't supply the entire grid all of the time that makes it a scam?
Then apples must be a scam too, because I need to eat other things to stay alive despite having a nice bowl of apples to munch on?
Can I interest you in a newly folded tinfoil hat?
McBryce.
You need to expand your thinking. The scam isnt in the wind turbine pr its design, the scam is in an oil and gas company selling you the idea so they can sell more gas. Honestly please consider things a little deeper before assuming i get my information from the talking heads on the tv
That would be true if it had been gas and oil companies that started and were they only pushers of wind power... but they are not. Your fellow countryman, Mr. James Blyth may have a different opinion to yours.
McBryce.
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Wow, you really have been on the Coolaid. So just because a wind generator can't supply the entire grid all of the time that makes it a scam?
Then apples must be a scam too, because I need to eat other things to stay alive despite having a nice bowl of apples to munch on?
Can I interest you in a newly folded tinfoil hat?
McBryce.
You need to expand your thinking. The scam isnt in the wind turbine pr its design, the scam is in an oil and gas company selling you the idea so they can sell more gas. Honestly please consider things a little deeper before assuming i get my information from the talking heads on the tv
What a load of bollocks. Gas and oil companies have lots of money. They already invest in renewable energy. If they found something better they'd invest in that too.
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This illustration shows the loops and nodes created by the interaction of the tidal wave and magnetic wave of our planet. This can not be explained by the current model and understanding of gravity and tidal forces.
Ok...
At this point either you are pretending to be nuts in order to attract nutty people to your investment scam
OR...
This is just who you are and like a Mormon, you are walking door to door spreading your new found "truth".
The EEV Forum might not be the best place for finding potential victims dude.
Try out Reddit, Discord or Twitter.
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Yeah ive heard using kinetic energy to rotate a generator produces the "additional power source".
In the plasma reactor the secondary current becomes the additional power source. Like a spinning top, once set in motion, motion is easy to maintain with very limited input of energy. Have you ever driven? Did you burn less fuel not staying at a steady speed?
A spinning top, once set in motion, keeps spinning for quite a while. But it gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when you try to extract energy from it to power something.
To ride a bicycle at a steady speed, I need to put in some power via the pedals; I burn food calories and convert them into mechanical power. If I stop pedaling, my bicycle gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when I try to extract energy from it to power something.
Let's assume you have a way to set up a feedback loop in a plasma, where compression waves generate currents, and the currents generate compression waves in turn. (Which, in my understanding, is what you claim.) Do you believe that this process will keep going forever, without any power input from outside? Will it even keep going forever if you extract some power, to drive a turbine or such?
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That would be true if it had been gas and oil companies that started and were they only pushers of wind power... but they are not. Your fellow countryman, Mr. James Blyth may have a different opinion to yours.
McBryce.
B.P bought the patent rights to solar technology. Just because some in the industry, obviously not the coal companies as goal has a fixed and slow to react energy output, but the gas companies. They may not have started the bandwagon but they jumped on it.
I served my time with Vestas, i love wind power, i also live of 2 solar panals and have lived off solar for 10 years. I know it can be done, but i also know its limitations when considering industrial demand. I also understand that scotlands grid infrastructure cant cope with the supply from the outer regions of the grid to the industrial areas. Simply because we design the grid the opposite way around, high power came from centralized power stations and now it goes the opposite way. On windy days we had to shut turbines down because the owner of the power lines our site used had their own turbines hitting the limits of the HV lines to glasgow. Even hydro was struggling to get power on to the grid. Look its all possible, but it wont save you from an ice age.that periodic change comes with the procession of the magnetic change.
All im saying is the ions in the atmospheric wind curve around the wind turbine blade turning rotating potential energy into kinetic energy. Compressed air works in the same principle as does MHD for hydro potential energy. Why would rotating compressed plasma potential be any different?
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Non Linear Plasma is a start up company looking to revolutionize the space exploration and energy industries
After these 36 pages I would readjust your goals.
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A spinning top, once set in motion, keeps spinning for quite a while. But it gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when you try to extract energy from it to power something.
To ride a bicycle at a steady speed, I need to put in some power via the pedals; I burn food calories and convert them into mechanical power. If I stop pedaling, my bicycle gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when I try to extract energy from it to power something.
Let's assume you have a way to set up a feedback loop in a plasma, where compression waves generate currents, and the currents generate compression waves in turn. (Which, in my understanding, is what you claim.) Do you believe that this process will keep going forever, without any power input from outside? Will it even keep going forever if you extract some power, to drive a turbine or such?
Its the only process we have ever used to extract power from compressed potential.
The spinning top doesnt have continues input of secondary endless rotating potential difference adding to its rotational energy. If it did it would never stop. Say it had a small rotating magnet underneath it. It also only slows down because of resistance due to drag effects from the atmosphere. In space this would not exist. Regardless of power output you still need a self sustaining magnatic field in order to leave Earth. If/when we manage to refine the process with more understanding and modelling, who knows maybe we can exact energy in a similar fashion to the ocean and atmospheric tides of the planet, powered by the magnetosphere or magnetic field as most call it, which obviously comes from a uniform direction of rotating current, as all magnetic field do which creates a potential difference on the theta axis. Shown in every magnetic field line model in existance. Its the density point of equal and opposite energy in a 3 dimensional universe, why not use it? It produces an explosive pressure gradient, do you think that can supply the required kinetic energy to maintain a constant velocity? I personally feel it will have energy left over once up to speed. Probably because ive seen the power of the ocean
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Non Linear Plasma is a start up company looking to revolutionize the space exploration and energy industries
After these 36 pages I would readjust your goals.
Sorry my goals remain the same. These 36 pages will show i explained it perfectly well. Flat earthers refuse to analyze what they see in 2 dimensions just as much as the mathimatical genius refuses to analyze the efects of his 2 dimensional mathimatical matrix, that is suppose to model a 3 dimensional universe.
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What a load of bollocks. Gas and oil companies have lots of money. They already invest in renewable energy. If they found something better they'd invest in that too.
That sounds like something someone who gets their information from the talking heads would say.
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B.P bought the patent rights to solar technology.
More absolute nonsense. What does that even mean?
There are thousands of solar panel related patents / applications and BP didn't buy any of them. BP did patent and demonstrate a few ideas related to mass production of panels with blocks of raw silicon back in 2006 and 2007. They never commercially used the patent themselves and sold the rights to AMG Advanced Metallurgical Group in Holland in 2010. Most solar panels available today are produced in China and don't make use of these patents anyway.
I'm doing a deal tinfoil hat multipacks at the moment if you are interested?
McBryce.
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The spinning top doesnt have continues input of secondary endless rotating potential difference adding to its rotational energy. If it did it would never stop. Say it had a small rotating magnet underneath it. It also only slows down because of resistance due to drag effects from the atmosphere. In space this would not exist. Regardless of power output you still need a self sustaining magnatic field in order to leave Earth. If/when we manage to refine the process with more understanding and modelling, who knows maybe we can exact energy in a similar fashion to the ocean and atmospheric tides of the planet, powered by the magnetosphere or magnetic field as most call it, which obviously comes from a uniform direction of rotating current, as all magnetic field do which creates a potential difference on the theta axis. Shown in every magnetic field line model in existance. Its the density point of equal and opposite energy in a 3 dimensional universe, why not use it? It produces an explosive pressure gradient, do you think that can supply the required kinetic energy to maintain a constant velocity? I personally feel it will have energy left over once up to speed. Probably because ive seen the power of the ocean
Could you please state, in one clear sentence, where the energy you plan to extract from your plasma is going to come from?
From within the plasma, endlessly? From the Earth's magnetic field? From somewhere else -- where?
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B.P bought the patent rights to solar technology.
More absolute nonsense. What does that even mean?
There are thousands of solar panel related patents / applications and BP didn't buy any of them. BP did patent and demonstrate a few ideas related to mass production of panels with blocks of raw silicon back in 2006 and 2007. They never commercially used the patent themselves and sold the rights to AMG Advanced Metallurgical Group in Holland in 2010. Most solar panels available today are produced in China and don't make use of these patents anyway.
I'm doing a deal tinfoil hat multipacks at the moment if you are interested?
McBryce.
It means they aquired one of the early pioneering companys of solar panels just for patent rights they had. They then over charged for royalties and under invested in the technology, thus when the royalties ran out investment increased and solar panels took a massive jump in output power. I think that started happening around 10 years ago, i know the panels i bought for each boat doubled in output power
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B.P bought the patent rights to solar technology.
More absolute nonsense. What does that even mean?
There are thousands of solar panel related patents / applications and BP didn't buy any of them. BP did patent and demonstrate a few ideas related to mass production of panels with blocks of raw silicon back in 2006 and 2007. They never commercially used the patent themselves and sold the rights to AMG Advanced Metallurgical Group in Holland in 2010. Most solar panels available today are produced in China and don't make use of these patents anyway.
I'm doing a deal tinfoil hat multipacks at the moment if you are interested?
McBryce.
It means they aquired one of the early pioneering companys of solar panels just for patent rights they had. They then over charged for royalties and under invested in the technology, thus when the royalties ran out investment increased and solar panels took a massive jump in output power. I think that started happening around 10 years ago, i know the panels i bought for each boat doubled in output power
No. BP's patents were created and submitted by BP themselves. They were also only related to production methods, not the solar technology itself. They never took royalties, they transferred the rights.
As it seems that you know less about patent laws than you know about spinning planets... Why have you never made any publications regarding your breakthroughs. It would save you a bunch of money compared to going straight to a patent.
McBryce.
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Could you please state, in one clear sentence, where the energy you plan to extract from your plasma is going to come from?
From within the plasma, endlessly? From the Earth's magnetic field? From somewhere else -- where?
This has already been stated, now im just coming up with different ways to say the same thing.
Its 2 endless current loops rotating inside a larger magnetic field, ie planet earths or the Sun's. The magnetic field you align the reactor to depends on which field is strongest. So if its on Earth, then its Earths. If its in space it might be the Sun's, could be Jupiter. Just depends where your going.
Lets build the reactor first then worry about extracting energy, Isnt that what ITER is doing?
How come they can do that and i cant? Them double standards again?
At least the plasma reactor will be a working model of the sun and a rotaing magnetic field, thats progress.
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No. BP's patents were created and submitted by BP themselves. They were also only related to production methods, not the solar technology itself. They never took royalties, they transferred the rights.
As it seems that you know less about patent laws than you know about spinning planets... Why have you never made any publications regarding your breakthroughs. It would save you a bunch of money compared to going straight to a patent.
McBryce.
That not the story i heard, not that its important as it was only a reference to how someone can make money from both sides of an arguement. Its smart thinking if you are honest with yourself.
I dont know much about patent law, im an engineer, i paid a patent attorney for that reason. Have also stated my reason for doing it, which i believe someone commented on being actually a very smart uses of the patent system.
Again lets try and stay on topic, does compressed plasma expand? Yes. Do magnetic fields compresses on the theta point? Yes. Is potential energy stored in compressed fluids? Do compression waves cause compression? you know like a coil spring or Acemedias wheel? Does a primary rotating current induce a secondary rotating current? Or does it induce imaginary field lines? That you then use your fringers and thumb to find the direction of rotation? Just happens to be 1 sided, ie in the direction of travel.
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Could you please state, in one clear sentence, where the energy you plan to extract from your plasma is going to come from?
From within the plasma, endlessly? From the Earth's magnetic field? From somewhere else -- where?
Lets build the reactor first then worry about extracting energy, Isnt that what ITER is doing?
How come they can do that and i cant? Them double standards again?
I'm just speculating here, but could it be that it's because ITER is being built by a massive team of highly qualified physicists, mathematicians and engineers with verifiable qualifications, years of relevant experience and documented experiments... and you're a Scottish bloke on a boat looking at the wake?
McBryce.
Edit: When you have some reading time free: https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/11/16/189695/how-bp-blew-its-chance-to-spearhead-a-solar-innovation/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/11/16/189695/how-bp-blew-its-chance-to-spearhead-a-solar-innovation/)
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Could you please state, in one clear sentence, where the energy you plan to extract from your plasma is going to come from?
From within the plasma, endlessly? From the Earth's magnetic field? From somewhere else -- where?
Lets build the reactor first then worry about extracting energy, Isnt that what ITER is doing?
How come they can do that and i cant? Them double standards again?
I'm just speculating here, but could it be that it's because ITER is being built by a massive team of highly qualified physicists, mathematicians and engineers with verifiable qualifications, years of relevant experience and documented experiments... and you're a Scottish bloke on a boat looking at the wake?
McBryce.
Edit: When you have some reading time free: https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/11/16/189695/how-bp-blew-its-chance-to-spearhead-a-solar-innovation/ (https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/11/16/189695/how-bp-blew-its-chance-to-spearhead-a-solar-innovation/)
Tesla didnt have a massive team, this is just recreating teslas work in plasma. Thats why tesla built the tesla value. He like me uses hydrostatic potential and the current it produces to model electricity.
I always remember learning about gate rectifiers. Could not understand them until i went on the internet and found a model using water. Ever since then i used water to replace electrical currents. Im also pretty good at reading hydraulics circuits too.
Maybe all these physicst are just to invested to see. Even when their own invent thrust generating rockets from the very plasma research they are conducting. Yet dont apply it to the models of a star. Although they are starting to.
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Lets build the reactor first then worry about extracting energy, Isnt that what ITER is doing?
How come they can do that and i cant? Them double standards again?
Nuclear fusion, maybe? And the fact that the ITER team knows a bit or two about that, while you don't even believe it's a thing?
:palm:
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So the short version then is that your energy source is the same as that which ultimately powers everything on planet earth: The sun and its quantum and/or gravitic connection the the rest of the galaxy, spiral arm, universe, etc as it spins. And your scheme is a shiny coat of paint over the same old plan to somehow concentrate and harness the magnetic field of the earth as a generator.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=1039908;image)
mnem
When they did that in Schlock Mercenary it was at least entertaining... :o
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Yeah definitely. It needs more orgones.
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I nominate them (the OP), as a possible winner, in the EEVblog forums, 2022 Dodgy Technology, woo woo alternative pseudoscience, flat earth, free energy, perpetual motion machine, prize.
The OP is right. If you ignore science, and especially the laws of physics. Many great inventions can be made. The only slight problem, is that they have a huge tendency, of perhaps 100%, to never, ever work.
If they win, they get a free energy-crystal, which will make them a millionaire, within 6 months, stops aging, and all illnesses, and makes them a fantastic scientist, without needing to do any studying, pass or sit any exams, or even perform a single lab experiment.
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If there was ever a thread that needed some of this. :palm:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/BkTq0Y.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmBkTq0Yj)
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I am somehow glad he did worked this no sense theory out....
Imagine if he decided to go in politics, there is a good chance it could be elected somewhere...
At the points the damages could be not just confined to waste of time in a forum.
Last message for me, this is beyond any possible reasonable tolerance.
Thanks to everybody for playing.
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Its 2 endless current loops rotating inside a larger magnetic field, ie planet earths or the Sun's. The magnetic field you align the reactor to depends on which field is strongest. So if its on Earth, then its Earths. If its in space it might be the Sun's, could be Jupiter. Just depends where your going.
Let's stay on Earth for now; I assume this is where you would want to build your first reactor.
The magnetic field of the Earth is pretty homogeneous (on the length scales of any reactor you might be able to build). It is also pretty stationary (on the time scales of your life, and of your reactor's daily operation).
So how is the Earth's magnetic field meant to drive your endlessly energy-spewing plasma?! It can't. It won't.
The only thing that is going round in endless circles here is your mind. Now if you could find a way to extract energy from that, you would be on to something...
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Its 2 endless current loops rotating inside a larger magnetic field, ie planet earths or the Sun's. The magnetic field you align the reactor to depends on which field is strongest. So if its on Earth, then its Earths. If its in space it might be the Sun's, could be Jupiter. Just depends where your going.
Let's stay on Earth for now; I assume this is where you would want to build your first reactor.
The magnetic field of the Earth is pretty homogeneous (on the length scales of any reactor you might be able to build). It is also pretty stationary (on the time scales of your life, and of your reactor's daily operation).
So how is the Earth's magnetic field meant to drive your endlessly energy-spewing plasma?! It can't. It won't.
The only thing that is going round in endless circles here is your mind. Now if you could find a way to extract energy from that, you would be on to something...
Actually we are all going round in endless circles. The only difference is... mine are 3 dimensional and form a helical wave around a larger circle. While you the flat earther view the helical motion of this universe as multiple seperate circle.
That pretty much sums up perfectly why you are a flat earther, you move your reference point with the motion in the direction of travel and only concern your mathimatical equations with the circle you see moving with you. Entirely ignoring the rest of the universe and distance and therefore volume covered
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The only thing that is going round in endless circles here is your mind. Now if you could find a way to extract energy from that, you would be on to something...
A thermoelectric generator or heat engine on your head might be able to recover a few milliwatts, maybe :D
makes them a fantastic scientist, without needing to do any studying, pass or sit any exams, or even perform a single lab experiment.
This is the crucial point. You can read all the books and even pass exams and still think that solar roadways or nonlinear plasma will work.
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Actually we are all going round in endless circles. The only difference is... mine are 3 dimensional and form a helical wave around a larger circle. While you the flat earther view the helical motion of this universe as multiple seperate circle.
That pretty much sums up perfectly why you are a flat earther, you move your refence point with the motion in the direction of travel and only concern your mathimatical equations with the circle you see moving with you.
OK, you got me there. I am devastated and embarrassed. But I finally see the light in all its three-dimensional, non-linear, Z-pinched beauty. I will now be forever silent and watch you in awe.
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Actually we are all going round in endless circles. The only difference is... mine are 3 dimensional and form a helical wave around a larger circle. While you the flat earther view the helical motion of this universe as multiple seperate circle.
That pretty much sums up perfectly why you are a flat earther, you move your reference point with the motion in the direction of travel and only concern your mathimatical equations with the circle you see moving with you. Entirely ignoring the rest of the universe and distance and therefore volume covered
So, what experiment, exactly. Are you proposing, that will demonstrate that there is merit in your ideas(s)?
Maybe if you bought a plasma ball, and suspended a somewhat small permanent magnet, hanging by a very thin thread, on top of it, but not touching it. To see if it spins forever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppPrYeXoek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppPrYeXoek)
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That pretty much sums up perfectly why you are a flat earther, you move your reference point with the motion in the direction of travel and only concern your mathimatical equations with the circle you see moving with you. Entirely ignoring the rest of the universe and distance and therefore volume covered
Lame. My insult was a dimension shorter than yours.
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Oh GREAT...NOW we've caused Zukka to quit (reading this thread). Sorry if I mis-spelled your tag.
I've quit, like, 16 times here. Always liked the places where OP is not to be found. (He) gets me to lose it, a little, but self-control is path to success, in many ventures. I'm calling for MORE Star Trek Transporter musings (from others). Besides, I've calledOP a 'jerk', and no one (cared) to report ME to moderator (sniffle).
ISH is latest acronym: 'insert sniffle here'.
Seriously though, I've thought about various ways to self-neutralize one's own perceptions, a QUANTITATIVE method:
Graphing a line, you could place various OP postings and make little diverting lines coming off, like a street map. One little offshoot line represents 'spin or rotations', another offshoot line for 'fusion', ...a little line for going sub-atomic - balanced by nearby diverting line for large scale (planetary), etc. etc.
You start to get a crazy, frizzled-hair looking 'graph'. Maybe there is a Lawyer's term for this 'all over the map' type word salad, in a practical attempt to efficiently quantify 'BS'.
Then, you maybe try that 'neutral' quantifying technique on a truly successful technology / business, like growing corn. That graph would, again, start with a straight 'home line' and have all those same offshoots, only this time they might (probably) look less 'frazeled' and more cogent. One little line for the seed purchase, and a truck to move seeds when delivered. Another close little line for a storage warehouse, keeping new seeds safe and dry until used.
Perhaps a diverting line or two, for pest control, in that corn planting. Readers hopefully can get my point, in this 'conflict of interest' type of graphing, also useful in analyzing political things, by temporarily reducing one's own bias to keep personal dynamics from influencing the evaluation.
However, I actually have a life, priorities, late RENT etc and so cannot reasonably demonstrate these current quantitative / graphical methods...priorities with other, massively more interesting EE study / explore.
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A spinning top, once set in motion, keeps spinning for quite a while. But it gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when you try to extract energy from it to power something.
To ride a bicycle at a steady speed, I need to put in some power via the pedals; I burn food calories and convert them into mechanical power. If I stop pedaling, my bicycle gradually slows down and eventually stops -- even faster when I try to extract energy from it to power something.
Let's assume you have a way to set up a feedback loop in a plasma, where compression waves generate currents, and the currents generate compression waves in turn. (Which, in my understanding, is what you claim.) Do you believe that this process will keep going forever, without any power input from outside? Will it even keep going forever if you extract some power, to drive a turbine or such?
Its the only process we have ever used to extract power from compressed potential.
The spinning top doesnt have continues input of secondary endless rotating potential difference adding to its rotational energy. If it did it would never stop. Say it had a small rotating magnet underneath it. It also only slows down because of resistance due to drag effects from the atmosphere. In space this would not exist. Regardless of power output you still need a self sustaining magnatic field in order to leave Earth. If/when we manage to refine the process with more understanding and modelling, who knows maybe we can exact energy in a similar fashion to the ocean and atmospheric tides of the planet, powered by the magnetosphere or magnetic field as most call it, which obviously comes from a uniform direction of rotating current, as all magnetic field do which creates a potential difference on the theta axis. Shown in every magnetic field line model in existance. Its the density point of equal and opposite energy in a 3 dimensional universe, why not use it? It produces an explosive pressure gradient, do you think that can supply the required kinetic energy to maintain a constant velocity? I personally feel it will have energy left over once up to speed. Probably because ive seen the power of the ocean
This is incorrect, as there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum, and the closest to one anywhere in the universe is actually in a laboratory, not even in deep intergalactic space.
Your magnetic nonsense is exactly that; nonsense. Either show some mathematical justification for your claims, which I assure you would be understood by many of the members of this forum, or go away.
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Its 2 endless current loops rotating inside a larger magnetic field, ie planet earths or the Sun's. The magnetic field you align the reactor to depends on which field is strongest. So if its on Earth, then its Earths. If its in space it might be the Sun's, could be Jupiter. Just depends where your going.
Let's stay on Earth for now; I assume this is where you would want to build your first reactor.
The magnetic field of the Earth is pretty homogeneous (on the length scales of any reactor you might be able to build). It is also pretty stationary (on the time scales of your life, and of your reactor's daily operation).
So how is the Earth's magnetic field meant to drive your endlessly energy-spewing plasma?! It can't. It won't.
The only thing that is going round in endless circles here is your mind. Now if you could find a way to extract energy from that, you would be on to something...
Actually we are all going round in endless circles. The only difference is... mine are 3 dimensional and form a helical wave around a larger circle. While you the flat earther view the helical motion of this universe as multiple seperate circle.
That pretty much sums up perfectly why you are a flat earther, you move your reference point with the motion in the direction of travel and only concern your mathimatical equations with the circle you see moving with you. Entirely ignoring the rest of the universe and distance and therefore volume covered
I'm genuinely interested in why you keep coming back to this 3D thing. Do you somehow think that we (the forum members here) only think in 2D and you have somehow enlightened us to a third dimension? I can't speak for everyone here, but I have always looked at everything in 4 dimensions (because time changes everything) and I'm pretty sure that others here haven't had issues up to now thinking in at least 3 dimensions.
We have engineers here who calculate the propagation from antennas which are 3 or 4 dimensional waves. We have members who do FEM, 3 or 4 dimensional calculations. We have members who do thermal analysis, 3 or 4 dimensional work. Why do you think that our minds don't already see things in 3 or 4 dimensions?? It's like you've just discovered water and you're trying to tell a group of fish how wet it is, without realising that the fish are already well ahead of you.
McBryce.
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This is incorrect, as there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum, and the closest to one anywhere in the universe is actually in a laboratory, not even in deep intergalactic space.
Your magnetic nonsense is exactly that; nonsense. Either show some mathematical justification for your claims, which I assure you would be understood by many of the members of this forum, or go away.
First of all, no one said their was a total vaccuum in space. Infact if you read back i said the exact opposite multiple times. However what there is as you correctly pointed out is an weak electrostatically controlled medium. As a wave pushes one atom the atoms around it feel an equal and opposite reaction. This how waves propagate though the solar wind. Consider that when the solar wind is manipulated by the magnetosphere of our planet. It may be a very low potential. As stated low potential has a vastly improved velocity to potential difference due to the lack of resistance to flow in low density mediums.
Secondly, this was once my thread. If you dont like it im not forcing you to be here or to reply to me. It is you desicion entirely to participate. Im sorry if you cant understand that 2 people looking at a dipole created from uniform rotations while view it as opposite if they are 180° apart. This should have been simply enough to explain. As was my math recently posted on the inverse square law, that apparently isnt related to volume. Expected it was, and i showed that as does the fact the inverse square law can be applied to gravity and electromagnetism, since both are 3 dimensional point source waves.
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I'm genuinely interested in why you keep coming back to this 3D thing. Do you somehow think that we (the forum members here) only think in 2D and you have somehow enlightened us to a third dimension? I can't speak for everyone here, but I have always looked at everything in 4 dimensions (because time changes everything) and I'm pretty sure that others here haven't had issues up to now thinking in at least 3 dimensions.
We have engineers here who calculate the propagation from antennas which are 3 or 4 dimensional waves. We have members who do FEM, 3 or 4 dimensional calculations. We have members who do thermal analysis, 3 or 4 dimensional work. Why do you think that our minds don't already see things in 3 or 4 dimensions?? It's like you've just discovered water and you're trying to tell a group of fish how wet it is, without realising that the fish are already well ahead of you.
McBryce.
You think your ahead of me? Where was all the explanations to counter the mechanism i presented? The first major problem you face is this 4th dimension time. Again this is a measurement of distance along the z axis. You can measure wavelength in many forms. Such as degrees, time or distance. But in the end they are all just a distance measurement, so why not just use that and remove the human construct from the already complicated picture?
All i can say is some times you have to go back to go forward. Just try to remember, when you go in reverse in 3 dimensions you will never reach negative. I keep going back to it because you still dont understand that the electric field and the magnetic field are the same forces rotating past 2 frames of reference. The electric field that produces a 2D wave and a magnetic field that produces another 2D wave. Both of which are inside a 3D wave/universe.
Its important to have the math right, you cant say the neutron is not the opposite to the proton when it is the opposite to the proton. How can the electron also be negative? That is what happens when you understand the hydrogen atom wave function and equal and opposite reactions of motion between 2 spinning and rotating objects of mass inside there own system. Its is the toroidal helical motion of the nucleus that generates the quadrupole wave function. The same toroidal pattern creates a stars or planets magnetic quadrupoles. I should also say that quadrupoles are 3 dimensional sin waves. Look at earths magnetic declination model if you are struggling to see the resemblance.
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This is incorrect, as there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum, and the closest to one anywhere in the universe is actually in a laboratory, not even in deep intergalactic space.
Your magnetic nonsense is exactly that; nonsense. Either show some mathematical justification for your claims, which I assure you would be understood by many of the members of this forum, or go away.
First of all, no one said their was a total vaccuum in space. Infact if you read back i said the exact opposite multiple times. However what there is as you correctly pointed out is an weak electrostatically controlled medium. As a wave pushes one atom the atoms around it feel an equal and opposite reaction. This how waves propagate though the solar wind. Consider that when the solar wind is manipulated by the magnetosphere of our planet. It may be a very low potential. As stated low potential has a vastly improved velocity to potential difference due to the lack of resistance to flow in low density mediums.
Secondly, this was once my thread. If you dont like it im not forcing you to be here or to reply to me. It is you desicion entirely to participate. Im sorry if you cant understand that 2 people looking at a dipole created from uniform rotations while view it as opposite if they are 180° apart. This should have been simply enough to explain. As was my math recently posted on the inverse square law, that apparently isnt related to volume. Expected it was, and i showed that as does the fact the inverse square law can be applied to gravity and electromagnetism, since both are 3 dimensional point source waves.
The point is that a rotating object does NOT rotate forever, in space. It WILL slow down, and eventually stop, due to the various forces acting on it, INCLUDING friction from impacting particles.
Your explanations are meaningless, there has been no maths shown by you, just word salad and an inability to comprehend simple logic when presented with it. The only money you will get for your project will be from gullible people who sadly fall victim to charlatans like you.
I hope you end up just like Elizabeth Homes; exposed as a fraud and hopefully in prison for a long time.
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Its important to have the math right
Now you’re talking my language.
Now shit or get off the pot.
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Its important to have the math right
Now you’re talking my language.
Now shit or get off the pot.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch)
You might enjoy reading up about the theta pinches created by rotating current.
The efficiency is interesting isnt it? Imagine that rotating current was produced by the plasma and self sustained using the secondary current with 85% of the energy in the first current. Even if it is small it can be extracted so as to maintain velocity of rotation.
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Its important to have the math right
Now you’re talking my language.
Now shit or get off the pot.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch)
You might enjoy reading up about the theta pinches created by rotating current.
Maybe I'm missing something, but. Where is YOUR mathematics, here?
If you sit a maths exam, could you simply answer, "please refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics)" for the answer, and expect to get a 100% pass?
I still can't remember seeing you, the OP, show any sign of mathematical understanding or ability in maths, whatsoever. Give or take a tiny bit of background noises, worth of maths.
Maybe that is why you seem to have come up with an idea, which sounds so completely WRONG, at so many levels.
Where exactly are you at, maths wise?
- Professor of mathematics
- PhD in Mathematics
- Degree in Mathematics
- Some kind of School level qualifications, in mathematics
- You managed to calculate how many days you sailed for, using a calculator
- Your dreams are full of mathematics
- You are almost as good at mathematics, as you are at physics, based on your physics skills, shown in this thread
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Its important to have the math right
Now you’re talking my language.
Now shit or get off the pot.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234960832_Energy_transfer_efficiency_of_a_spherical_theta_pinch)
You might enjoy reading up about the theta pinches created by rotating current.
The efficiency is interesting isnt it? Imagine that rotating current was produced by the plasma and self sustained using the secondary current with 85% of the energy in the first current. Even if it is small it can be extracted so as to maintain velocity of rotation.
I want you to do the shitting or getting off the pot. I want you to demonstrate that you understand it mathematically.
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Now shit or get off the pot.
I thought we'd had our share of scientific diarrhea from the OP?
Look, this is pointless. Why ask someone about math who does not even realize that he keeps postulating a perpetuum mobile, and that there might be something wrong with that?
You might get evasive answers, or word salad made from scientific and mathematical terms, or even mathematical arguments with lots of circular reasoning. What does it matter? The guy is so deluded that it's not even fun to argue with him.
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I'm genuinely interested in why you keep coming back to this 3D thing. Do you somehow think that we (the forum members here) only think in 2D and you have somehow enlightened us to a third dimension? I can't speak for everyone here, but I have always looked at everything in 4 dimensions (because time changes everything) and I'm pretty sure that others here haven't had issues up to now thinking in at least 3 dimensions.
We have engineers here who calculate the propagation from antennas which are 3 or 4 dimensional waves. We have members who do FEM, 3 or 4 dimensional calculations. We have members who do thermal analysis, 3 or 4 dimensional work. Why do you think that our minds don't already see things in 3 or 4 dimensions?? It's like you've just discovered water and you're trying to tell a group of fish how wet it is, without realising that the fish are already well ahead of you.
McBryce.
You think your ahead of me? Where was all the explanations to counter the mechanism i presented?
And now you've finally come around to the issue. You can't validate or counter explanations without presenting maths behind it. If you have a theory or an idea you can discuss it till the cows come home, but to prove it you need the maths. I can claim that if we pulled the moon closer to earth it would rain cheese and I can compare it to many things to say why I think this would happen, but without actually coming with verifiable facts and figures, it's no more than a Dunning-Kruger pub discussion.
I would be more than willing to discuss the mechanism, but you haven't mathematically presented it yet, you've just babbled about 3D helical waves etc. Show me a diagram of what the machine would look like. Show me the formula that explains the energy entering and leaving the system. Show me anything that can actually be tested or calculated. Up to now you haven't. You've thrown a load of buzzwords in our direction and on more than one occasion shown that you really don't understand the mechanics of basic physics. So yes, I'm pretty sure that both on an academic and real-life technical experience level I am leagues ahead of you, much like many of the other members here.
McBryce.
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Now shit or get off the pot.
I thought we'd had our share of scientific diarrhea from the OP?
Look, this is pointless. Why ask someone about math who does not even realize that he keeps postulating a perpetuum mobile, and that there might be something wrong with that?
You might get evasive answers, or word salad made from scientific and mathematical terms, or even mathematical arguments with lots of circular reasoning. What does it matter? The guy is so deluded that it's not even fun to argue with him.
Well usually when you poke them with the math argument they shoot themselves in the face with the gun immediately resulting in game over.
In this case he knows if he fires the gun his entire fragile narcissistic bullshit is going to collapse upon itself so he’s doing everything to avoid doing it by being evasive. Egos are fragile. I hope it goes with a bang not a crack.
If it quacks like a duck it’s a duck. If it smells like shit it’s probably shit. This smells of shit.
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So lets get this straight, you all think i dont understand the math? Yet none of you seem to understand what the opposite of the inverses square law is and what it produces? It is literally modelled on every central axis of an electrical current carrying coil. Its why you think field lines come from that exact location. Its why they have an arrows on them. Your field line is the peak point of compression (potential) of the 360° wave on the central axis.
It is not me who does not understand the math, it is you who does not understand what they are measureing. Seriously you think imaginary lines of force in you head are propagating past rotating wave functions?
Using the images below can you see how the 2D understanding misses the visualization of the rotation of the 3 dimensional wave on the theta axis. This is relevent because we see this rotation in the jets of black holes and dont apply it to smaller magnetic objects. The field lines are stopping you from understanding magnetism. You know its a wave, its called the electromagnetic wave, why is that difficult to grasp? Now what happens when a 360° compression wave is further compressed onto the secondary axis? This is the math part you dont seem to understand either. The square law must be applied, surface area is not increasing as the wave propagates away from source. It is decreasing which increasing the density of plasma on the z pinch. This is why the z pinch was a focus of fusion research, its ability to compress by converging a 360° electromagnetic wave on a second axis
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I’m not measuring anything. Fuck off until you present at least GCSE algebra…
Seriously stop avoiding and go learn.
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Given that this clown thinks this: "Its important to have the math right, you cant say the neutron is not the opposite to the proton when it is the opposite to the proton. How can the electron also be negative?", I think it's safe to say his level of knowledge is nursery school/kindergarten level.
Seriously, he thinks a neutron has a negative charge? This is a whole new level of stupidity.
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I missed that :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:
Perhaps if he did the mathematics he’d have seen that and gone “oh yeah”. But no retarded word salad.
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I take it no one will miss him...
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Nope. Nice job :-+
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So this is my graphical.
AVGresponding also noticed, calling a proton and neutron as 'same', in one (double-negative) sentence.
The first big curve, in lower graph, represents an extreme density, of BS.
NOTICE the corn farm thing is a fairly neat line.
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I take it no one will miss him...
They should have just told the truth (not so much as in lying as such, but as in completely hiding/evading very relevant details). By immediately stating that it needs free energy and/or perpetual motion machines and/or above unity, and a belief that things like the sun are NOT powered by fusion.
They also should have been much clearer as to their knowledge/abilities/qualifications in relevant subject areas, such as physics and mathematics. Not mentioning their failed attempt(s), at other place(s) on the internet, is much more debatable, if they should or should not, have mentioned it, in this thread. I think they should have, but it is NOT that clear cut.
It would have saved a lot of time.
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And, in a sense of valid replies, we start making things up / guessing, only natural.
Here's where I got, contemplating my 'neutral' graphics:
The OP has Patent Agent, doing work of at least $$10,000 value. App filed is decent, readable English.
#2.) OP figures to add a TURBINE, to catch some either or plasma, whatever. So that was, actually, judged ok as novelty, by Patent reviewer. Now as to harnessing that, or source of that energy...still NOGO.
But the biggest benefit of doing that graph is realization of step #1, above.
Step #1). Get (large) inheritance.
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I take it no one will miss him...
Thanks, that's probably for the better. May I suggest that we lock this thread too? We (myself included) have chewed on this topic for far too long. But continuing to analyze, put down and ridicule the OP now, when he can no longer respond, seems shabby to me.
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I take it no one will miss him...
They (the OP), can now start a conspiracy theory, whereby some semi-secret government agency, got this idea somewhat hidden (by banning the OP), as they didn't want this idea to fall into the wrong hands . . . . . . ......
Possibly paid for by naughty petroleum/energy companies, so they can maintain their current and future profits.
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So successfully marginalised where he belongs then?
Edit: also RJHayward; great graphics. Thoroughly enjoyed those :-DD
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I take it no one will miss him...
They should have just told the truth (not so much as in lying as such, but as in completely hiding/evading very relevant details). By immediately stating that it needs free energy and/or perpetual motion machines and/or above unity, and a belief that things like the sun are NOT powered by fusion.
They also should have been much clearer as to their knowledge/abilities/qualifications in relevant subject areas, such as physics and mathematics. Not mentioning their failed attempt(s), at other place(s) on the internet, is much more debatable, if they should or should not, have mentioned it, in this thread. I think they should have, but it is NOT that clear cut.
It would have saved a lot of time.
I also wanted to make sure he does not delete his posts, make sure we immortalize the freshly harvested untainted bullshit for posterity. With his use of tis name so much I am sure it will pop up in searches for his website too. Hopefully warn a few unwise people.
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I also wanted to make sure he does not delete his posts, make sure we immortalize the freshly harvested untainted bullshit for posterity. With his use of tis name so much I am sure it will pop up in searches for his website too. Hopefully warn a few unwise people.
That's a good point. I hadn't immediately thought of that (they might try deleting all their posts).
This thread was clearly going round and round in big circles, with the OP, clearly (apparently) dodging important things like mathematics. It was beginning to repeat itself, as time went on.
For whatever reason, they seem to stubbornly refuse to accept, even a tiny risk that their invention is NOT going to work. I suspect, even a relatively low amount of real physics knowledge, would soon see that it can't possibly work, without violating, many important, well established/proved laws of physics.
If someone thinks they have made a big invention, that breaks many laws of physics, the beginnings of actual evidence, that it might work. Such as mathematical proofs and/or real life actual experiments, would be a far more sensible step, than just trying to discuss it.
I don't agree we were discussing it, as such. As they seemed to be largely ignoring our arguments, in real-terms.
Their regular word-salad, was just crazy/silly/unwise, and just added to the confusion. They also annoyingly, seemed to often dodge, straight forward, simple direct questions. Much like politicians are rumored/expected to do.
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He wouldn't delete anything, this thread only proves that his critics are a bunch of dilettantes :-DD
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Oh come on I was just beginning to understand!
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Oh come on I was just beginning to understand!
Are you serious?
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=1524775;image)
I dunno who this joker is, but I think he's got the OP sussed... ;)
mnem
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=1524769;image)
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The sad thing is, it's not too hard or too expensive to build a fusor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor) to experimentally verify that fusion reactions do occur; it is well within hobbyist capabilities – and if you have $20k/20k€ or so, you can buy it (in components) straight off the shelf.
Z-pinch increases plasma density and confinement by inducing a current into the plasma, which due to Lorentz force (the current generating a magnetic field that) pinches the plasma closer together, and that costs much more.
Tokamaks require costly superconducting magnets (to get the magnetic field strengths necessary), and unless you intend to run it for only a short time, you need something like tungsten (wolfram) plating on the inside to deal with the high-energy particles; stainless steel becomes very brittle rather quickly in that onslaught.
Showing a picture of what the magnetic fields or electrostatic fields in such experiments are, does not indicate any kind of understanding. It is just repeating something you've seen, without understanding what it is; just like a Lyre bird repeats sounds it has heard in its mating songs, with gusto.
"Frequency", "helix", and "density" are terms that seem to be in vogue among those who think every physics experiment before them has been done wrong, and they know better because healing crystals.
Dammit, this physics stuff is not just talk and theory, it is something that is already done experimentally. And not just by scientists; hobbyists have built several fusors too. Dismissing all that effort is like dismissing an oncoming train: you do it at your own risk, and you're damn likely to be squished, with onlookers quipping that that was particularly stupid.
High-school level of "electrons rotate around atomic nuclei" physics won't cut it, because fusion is deep within nuclear force ranges, in the quantum realm. Decades ago, early in my physics uni studies I started with Introduction to the Structure of Matter by Brehm and Mullin, and while it is a steep learning curve, I really enjoyed it. Something of that sort is needed to grasp the models that have been experimentally verified already.
Precise math, or at least crude approximations with the most significant terms, is your initial tool; just like dimensional analysis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis) is in applied physics and engineering. Adjectives feel powerful, but they don't really describe much; the human brain is prone to magical thinking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking), and if you don't nail down your ideas with hard math, it is all just a smokescreen your own brain is putting forward. I know from long experience that when I have an idea, I must nail it down in math and/or software code, and experimentally verify it works, because my mind too often thinks it knows something when it doesn't, and occasionally convinces and hoodwinks me too.
And if anyone thinks I'm putting others down or trying to show they're bad at physics, think again. I'm trying to show that those interested in this stuff can certainly learn, and where to start. Making errors is perfectly okay; it's not acknowledging and not fixing them that is stupid. The questions I posed earlier are not something I copied off somewhere else; they are things I myself had to learn the hard way, spending who knows how many hours while doing so... and my point is, if I, Nominal Animal the Verbose Uncle Bumblefuck can do it, so can anyone else with sufficient time and effort.
If you think you might have a new idea, go ahead and explore it! But, do not look for support of your idea, look for the most detailed criticism and involved examination you can find, even though it can feel crushing to have the fatal error in ones idea pointed out.. but that's how we learn. Use math as a tool, because it really is the best tool we have for this. Consider top athletes: do they look forward to winning against developmentally challenged competitors, or to pitch themselves against the best competitors around? And why?
Having other like-minded people support your idea feels nice, but having them show the holes or misdesign is worth much more. When I post one of my schematics or boards here, I'm looking for advice on making it better, and especially about any pitfalls I might have dug for myself that experienced people can detect in my plans. I value that sort of critical but useful help more than I value my personal feelings. Those trying to develop their own ideas should consider the same approach.
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Having other like-minded people support your idea feels nice, but having them show the holes or misdesign is worth much more. When I post one of my schematics or boards here, I'm looking for advice on making it better, and especially about any pitfalls I might have dug for myself that experienced people can detect in my plans. I value that sort of critical but useful help more than I value my personal feelings. Those trying to develop their own ideas should consider the same approach.
The OP seems completely unable, to receive/accept, criticism of their so called invention. They seem absolutely convinced that the sun is NOT powered by fusion, and that the thousands (or millions or more, depending on how, and at what level of physics capabilities you count people), who disagree are WRONG, because they haven't heard or seen, the OPs, what I suspect they believe is, a wonderful idea and solution to how it all works.
They (the OP), then throws physics laws, any contradictory experiments, everyone else, mathematics, reality (arguably), out of the window.
It reminds me, of any people that one meets. Who are 100% convinced in particular conspiracy theories, and refuse all scientific, and common sense counter-arguments. Even when it is a particularly silly conspiracy theory, to most people.
Their (OPs) probable lack of any/much real physics experience/qualifications, heighten their susceptibility to going down, what (to many) seem like crazy ideas.
With some people, even if they start out with similar ideas to the OP. It can be worthwhile spending time with them, and explaining why it will NOT work. But this particular OP, seems like someone, who this thread could have carried on for years, and reached thousands of pages. They still wouldn't have budged, even slightly.
Still no maths (from the OP, before they were banned), suggested experiment(s), to prove/demonstrate their new scientific principals/invention(s), or any real/proper physics arguments (excluding word-salad like answers).
Just significant misconceptions, as to how physics really (arguably) works.
Also, I hope it is not just a scam, to attempt to con money out of people, in an arguably fraudulent way. Because I strongly dislike their campaign to raise money out of innocent people, for this exercise. Let the OP waste their own time and money, NOT other peoples.
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They (the OP), then throws physics laws, any contradictory experiments, everyone else, mathematics, reality (arguably), out of the window.
It reminds me, of any people that one meets. Who are 100% convinced in particular conspiracy theories, and refuse all scientific, and common sense counter-arguments. Even when it is a particularly silly conspiracy theory, to most people.
Yup.
The only interesting thing about conspiracy theories is how well they fit. That is, it is exactly the counterarguments that make them worth considering at all.
If there are no known facts to fit to, then it is just speculation. And that is just a few letters away from speculative fiction: entertainment.
Even the nuttiest of ideas could have a kernel of truth in it, but unless we define the idea and test it, we'll never know. The only reason for refusing to define and test an idea, is when you only entertain that idea for emotional reasons, in my experience.
I strongly dislike their campaign to raise money out of innocent people, for this exercise. Let the OP waste their own time and money, NOT other peoples.
Seconded.
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I take it no one will miss him...
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I'm a bit disappointed to see NLP has been banned. The more time he wasted arguing with us in the thread, the less time he had to spend scamming others.
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I'm a bit disappointed to see NLP has been banned. The more time he wasted arguing with us in the thread, the less time he had to spend scamming others.
If they had remained (wild speculation), I'd suspect they'd have created many more threads, sooner or later. Assuming they had continued to just word-salad, and a fair bit of the time ignore responses (i.e. refuse to answer simple and straight forward questions). They would probably have got very annoying, and many complaints. Which could have given the moderator/admin team, too much work to do.
They were given plenty of time to see the error of their ways, yet they chose to ignore us, and plough on with their (to many/all of us), relatively crazy (as regards real science) ideas.
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Ahh, I've learned a lot, cursed a lot, and wondered:
That guy, maybe, needs a girlfriend...
'Dodgy' is a happening thing, this year...It's the first thing I dial-up, after shaving. Don't forget, my generation (of Berkeley / Stanford Engineers) watched as Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak gained Billionaire-hood, right before our eyes, as we sat in stalled traffic in San Jose region, year after year.
Long live, the 6502 !
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Ahh, I've learned a lot, cursed a lot, and wondered:
That guy, maybe, needs a girlfriend...
'Dodgy' is a happening thing, this year...It's the first thing I dial-up, after shaving. Don't forget, my generation (of Berkeley / Stanford Engineers) watched as Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak gained Billionaire-hood, right before our eyes, as we sat in stalled traffic in San Jose region, year after year.
Long live, the 6502 !
The main thing the guy needed was a course in first grade Physics. After that we could investigate what else he lacked.
McBryce.
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
And how are going to know that the cat has died without opening the box? :)
McBryce.
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Shake it :-DD
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I’m not measuring anything. Fuck off until you present at least GCSE algebra…
Seriously stop avoiding and go learn.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hv2XOAx.png)
Joke: He was not avoiding it was just that he was dreaming.
He must do a lot of day dreaming.
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
And how are going to know that the cat has died without opening the box? :)
McBryce.
Make the box out of glass instead of Bakelite--it doesn't change the physics of the nuclear disintegration.
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
And how are going to know that the cat has died without opening the box? :)
McBryce.
Make the box out of glass instead of Bakelite--it doesn't change the physics of the nuclear disintegration.
No, but it does change the measurement process, which is a serious problem in quantum mechanics.
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I thought 'Z-Pinch' was a cute Frenchman who flirts with your mate, while you sleep down a hangover at the hotel.
Suggestion (for Moderators):
It's not so difficult, these days, why not provide / allow posts to have a 'native language' section; French Colombian, Vietnam, Philipines, etc.
Of course might be some lazy ones, but might not be big deal; just require the readable English up front.
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
And how are going to know that the cat has died without opening the box? :)
McBryce.
Make the box out of glass instead of Bakelite--it doesn't change the physics of the nuclear disintegration.
No, but it does change the measurement process, which is a serious problem in quantum mechanics.
The transparent box doesn’t change the measurement process: in the definition of the system a particle detector (e.g. Geiger tube) detects the particle emitted randomly from the radionuclide and then kills the cat. Using an opaque box is throwing away information that physical theory allows the experimenter to have. The experiment has the same result if a non-lethal indicator is used to announce the detection of the particle.
An example of what QM does not allow is to identify which of a pair of identical particles (e.g. proton-proton scattering) hit the detector. In classical mechanics, we can treat different color billiard balls as identical in a collision, but identify the red and green ones.
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Suggestion (for Moderators):
It's not so difficult, these days, why not provide / allow posts to have a 'native language' section; French Colombian, Vietnam, Philipines, etc.
Of course might be some lazy ones, but might not be big deal; just require the readable English up front.
Well you would end up with small sections no one that could speak English as well would use. Also who's gonna moderate that mess?
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I always thought Schrödinger's Cat was just a descriptive analog of the questions arising from quantum wave function collapse and/or decoherence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse). Of particular interest to me (in similar vein as conspiracy theories) are the Von Neumann – Wigner interpretation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation) and the many-worlds interpretation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation), among the many models of wave function collapse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_theories). That is, entertaining, but not very practical, unless one happens to stumble upon an idea of an experiment that could verify or eliminate one/some of them.
Suggestion (for Moderators):
It's not so difficult, these days, why not provide / allow posts to have a 'native language' section; French Colombian, Vietnam, Philipines, etc.
Of course might be some lazy ones, but might not be big deal; just require the readable English up front.
Well you would end up with small sections no one that could speak English as well would use. Also who's gonna moderate that mess?
I'll volunteer to maintain the Finnish section, if we set a rule that only the word "perkele" and its variants are allowed in the posts.
(Perkeleen perkele, I may have dug myself into a hole here.)
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If I remember scientific history correctly, the "Schrödinger's cat" thought-experiment was proposed only semi-seriously.
It was noted later that the Geiger tube suggested in the original experiment is the actual measurement, when the quantum stuff turns into an actual observation.
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...next time a barn burns down, or a CAT dies, we'll know who to blame; Mr. Non... What was the guy's name again?
And how are going to know that the cat has died without opening the box? :)
McBryce.
Make the box out of glass instead of Bakelite--it doesn't change the physics of the nuclear disintegration.
No, but it does change the measurement process, which is a serious problem in quantum mechanics.
The transparent box doesn’t change the measurement process: in the definition of the system a particle detector (e.g. Geiger tube) detects the particle emitted randomly from the radionuclide and then kills the cat. Using an opaque box is throwing away information that physical theory allows the experimenter to have. The experiment has the same result if a non-lethal indicator is used to announce the detection of the particle.
An example of what QM does not allow is to identify which of a pair of identical particles (e.g. proton-proton scattering) hit the detector. In classical mechanics, we can treat different color billiard balls as identical in a collision, but identify the red and green ones.
In quantum mechanics the act of observing/measuring the experiment influences the result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem)
Observing the cat through a transparent box is by definition taking a measurement. Even if you do it in a mirror via a webcam, with one eye closed and standing on one leg.
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I just realized that "wave function collapse" sounds weird. It is not a particularly good term, because it evokes a picture of change; instead, it just means that everything interacting with the wave function come into a single agreement as to the specific state of the wave function. So, it is not a catastrophic event of some sort, more like a "clarification" from a fuzzy distribution of possibilities to a single observed/measured one.
Decoherence, on the other hand, just "limits" the possible states to a smaller set, due to entanglement(s) with the surrounding system.
Entanglement is when different wave functions interact, so that if one collapses or is limited to a subset of possible states, the other one is (other ones are) as well.
In a measurement or observation, in a very real sense, we entangled everything from the wave function involved, through to your retina and the rods and cones, to your brain, to agree that that wave function had a very specific state, and therefore the value we measured (an "observable") obtained a specific value. (I think "collapse" is pretty poor word for describing this!)
The different interpretations of exactly what happens when a wave function collapses, obtains a specific state, is still being discussed and examined. Some of the interpretations, like the Von Neumann – Wigner one, are quite strange. (That one states that it is consciousness (whatever that is!) that causes the actual collapse. The many-world interpretation states that the collapse causes a separation into multiple parallel worlds, into as many as the possible states of the wave function, so that in each parallel world, the wave function ended up in a different state. Fanciful stuff, but not very practical. Yet.)
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Seems like quantum interference has stolen half of Nominal Animal's post...
The really annoying thing with quantum mechanics is when the results you get differ depending on how you ask the question. The double slit experiment is a real mind-fuck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment)
They're not particles, and they're not waves, they're wavicles!
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In the Schroedinger experiment, the measurement is the detection of the decay particle in the Geiger tube.
The radioactive decay event's arrival time is governed by a probability function, which is quantum mechanical.
Everything thereafter is just equipment, which need not involve killing a cat. Could be ringing a bell so that a dog outside the box salivates.
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Seems like quantum interference has stolen half of Nominal Animal's post...
The really annoying thing with quantum mechanics is when the results you get differ depending on how you ask the question. The double slit experiment is a real mind-fuck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment)
They're not particles, and they're not waves, they're wavicles!
I like to think of this as the same argument my ex wife and myself had once. We were sitting there eating our lunch in the car and in the distance was a horse in the field. I pointed it out. She suggested it was a cow. This turned into a 10 minute long argument over what it was. In that time that we were arguing it didn't move at all. Drove past it later and found out it was a large metal cut out of an animal which resembled neither and the reason for it existing was never established.
Ergo both models are good enough at a high enough level of abstraction which includes our ability to observe it with any observation bias we have, but don't make sense at a quantum level. I suspect it gets really interesting where space becomes discrete but I haven't done enough reading on that to form an opinion (yet). Too busy fixing shitty old test gear :-DD
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Try walking your dogs past a couple of LION statues:
Both dogs cowered, heads down, somehow instinct told them, those big grey cats were bad-ass. Silhouette of a LION very powerful reaction, off in the distance!
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In the Schroedinger experiment, the measurement is the detection of the decay particle in the Geiger tube.
The radioactive decay event's arrival time is governed by a probability function, which is quantum mechanical.
Everything thereafter is just equipment, which need not involve killing a cat. Could be ringing a bell so that a dog outside the box salivates.
Yes, but the point of the thought experiment is to show the weirdness inherent in the fact that the quantum superposition of states does not collapse into a steady state until the cat is observed to be either dead or alive (EDIT: by using the absurd example of the cat being both dead and alive simultaneously which it obviously can't be. As much as anything it demonstrates the apparent disconnect between the macro and quantum universe).
And no, ringing a bell so a dog outside the box salivates is not equivalent; the dog hearing the bell counts as a measurement.
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If I remember scientific history correctly, the "Schrödinger's cat" thought-experiment was proposed only semi-seriously.
It was noted later that the Geiger tube suggested in the original experiment is the actual measurement, when the quantum stuff turns into an actual observation.
The point was to explain what reality is like. You have a situation that could be one way or the other, you don't know which, but by testing it to see the situation you affect the situation and thus damage/falsify the true result. I'm sure they had glass back then but the idea of a glass box would ruin the similitude he was trying to portray, it is an opaque box because you cannot see the result unless you interfere with it by opening it.
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Yes, that was the point of the suggested paradoxical experiment, but the fact remains that the relevant “measurement” is the detection of the particle in the Geiger tube. Prior to that pulse, QM imposes ignorance of the nucleus. After the pulse, drawing a curtain is willful discard of available information, not imposed by QM.
In the double slit experiment, the state of the particle before it hits the detector is veiled by QM, but known after it hits the detector, which again is the “measurement”. If you put particle detectors in the slits, that measurement messes up the experiment and changes the result.
On the other hand, if you connect the Geiger tube to an oscilloscope, your viewing the CRT does not affect the measurement done by the Geiger tube.
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The really annoying thing with quantum mechanics is when the results you get differ depending on how you ask the question. The double slit experiment is a real mind-fuck.
The real mind-fuck is that according to several interpretations, it is possible for two observers to see completely different results (essentially, if the observers are not entangled at all).
Yes, that was the point of the suggested paradoxical experiment, but the fact remains that the relevant “measurement” is the detection of the particle in the Geiger tube.
Or, rather, the collapse of the wave functions of the particle and those of the Geiger tube apparatus, is the measurement.
In the intuitive sense, I consider "uncollapsed" wave functions as probability distributions among all the possible states. Properly, the term is quantum superposition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition). Entangled wave functions occur when those "distributions" interact enough to "weed out" most of the possible states, yielding just a few possibilities. (Generally, entanglement is considered weak if there are many possible states left, and strongest possible if there is just a pair of states left. When only one is left, then we say the wave function collapsed.)
Thing is, everything is such a wave function, really. And whenever those wave functions (or, equivalently, the particles or fields whose wave functions we're considering) interact, the number of possible states changes... To someone like me with a curious but rather limited mind, that thought can be scarier than the worst/best horror story.
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Your careful use of QM nomenclature is correct.
I was replying to the basic question of "measurement effects the result" by pointing out when and where the measurement occurs in this supposed paradox.
On an animated TV show "Futurama", there was a horse race with a very close result. It was referred to as a "Quantum finish", which had to be judged by an electron microscope (somehow operating ex vacuo).
Of course, the show's scientist objected to the announced winner, claiming the measurement affected the result.
(In real life, "photo finishes" are judged with optical imaging, and the horses' noses are usually farther apart than a few micrometers.)
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Your careful use of QM nomenclature is correct.
I was replying to the basic question of "measurement effects the result" by pointing out when and where the measurement occurs in this supposed paradox.
On an animated TV show "Futurama", there was a horse race with a very close result. It was referred to as a "Quantum finish", which had to be judged by an electron microscope (somehow operating ex vacuo).
Of course, the show's scientist objected to the announced winner, claiming the measurement affected the result.
(In real life, "photo finishes" are judged with optical imaging, and the horses' noses are usually farther apart than a few micrometers.)
Yeah. Unfortunately it is impossible to measure a system without affecting it in some way. The smaller the level you probe at, the harder it is to obtain meaningful measurements.
All so called "observer" effects are due to energy contamination coming from the measurement system or environment.
It does not mean that your mind can magically change causality just by observation.
The whole Schrodinger cat analogy is not only stupid, but quoted way too much.
Quantum Mechanics is a bit worrying in how misleading it can be.
For example. The position of an electron isn't a random probability.
We would be able to predict the future position of an election If we had the technology to observe the exact position of an electron.
But since that isn't the case, it makes more sense to talk about probabilities and energies in electron clouds.
Quantum entanglement is a similarly misleading name for an extremely boring and obvious phenomenon.
Two or more particles with exactly the same velocity/spin/energy state etc, will remain the same until an outside force or energy interacts with them (Kinda like Newtons first law of motion).
So NO information is being transmitted between said particles.
If you shoot two bullets with exactly the same velocity and stabilizing spin they are not transferring any information between each other.
Another issue is with photons.
The only reason photons even exist isn't because light must always exist as photons.
It is because most sources of electromagnetic radiation are due to single atom emissions of light.
Incandescent lightbulb, trillions upon trillions of atoms all emitting their own little pulses of light as their electrons change energy states. Like a strobing array of LEDs.
But an antenna as an example acts as a perfect single source emitting a single never ending wave. So no photons.
Yes, the energy of the wave is quantized in that a certain number of electrons is moving in the conductor.
But, there are no individual short-lived packets of electromagnetic radiation being emitted by different atoms at different times.
So no photons.
Also the double slit experiment does give different results depending on the material used to make the slits.
It is nothing more than electromagnetic radiation interactions with matter just like Fraunhofer diffraction, diffraction gratings, refraction, absorption, polarization etc.
For example, in some cases sub-wavelength holes in a thin sheet of metal can transmit MORE light when both ends of the holes are covered up by disks of opaque material.
https://opg.optica.org/oe/fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-19-21-21098&id=223055
The double slit experiment doesn't demonstrate any particle/wave duality what so ever. I don't know why that is still being thrown around.
Light is a wave and the double slit is made of matter. Thus the interesting results.
So at the end of the day unfortunately there will be no quantum computer that can make a functional use of quantum entanglement.
No so-called "Quantum computer" has ever demonstrated an even remotely anomalous computational ability.
Among the more successful scams that thrive off of frivolous government spending is D-Wave.
Then the thousands of researcher university grants with experiment conclusions ending with pleas for more money because "we almost did it, the breakthrough could happen at any moment now!".
This is a shame because I would like Quantum computing to be an actual thing.
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Another issue is with photons.
The only reason photons even exist isn't because light must always exist as photons.
It is because most sources of electromagnetic radiation are due to single atom emissions of light.
Incandescent lightbulb, trillions upon trillions of atoms all emitting their own little pulses of light as their electrons change energy states. Like a strobing array of LEDs.
But an antenna as an example acts as a perfect single source emitting a single never ending wave. So no photons.
Yes, the energy of the wave is quantized in that a certain number of electrons is moving in the conductor.
But, there are no individual short-lived packets of electromagnetic radiation being emitted by different atoms at different times.
So no photons.
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This rather contradicts the current model. I assume you have some sources that you can cite to back this claim?
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No he’s right. Photons are the discrete packets of energy within the quantisation limit of Planck’s Equation (E=hv). If a state transition occurs it farts out a discrete chunk of energy that we call a photon. The photon abstraction is just a discretisation abstraction. It’s still waves in theory.
It doesn’t contradict the model. Just a different way of looking at it which is correct also.
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No he’s right. Photons are the discrete packets of energy within the quantisation limit of Planck’s Equation (E=hv). If a state transition occurs it farts out a discrete chunk of energy that we call a photon. The photon abstraction is just a discretisation abstraction. It’s still waves in theory.
It doesn’t contradict the model. Just a different way of looking at it which is correct also.
Re-read what he wrote. He claims photons only happen at visible wavelengths, which is plain wrong.
https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/s62 (https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/s62)
https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/what-is-radiation/ionising-radiation/x-ray (https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/what-is-radiation/ionising-radiation/x-ray)
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Ah ok. That’s wrong then. The model works fine for far up the EM spectrum. Antennas turf out photons. v is just different in E=hv. Thus higher energy.
I’m open to the thoughts with some physicists that photons don’t exist as elementary particles however. There are statistical tests that don’t fit the standard model. Whether or not that’s a refinement of the model or we got it totally wrong is something we shall find out when more qualified folk come up with a way of testing it.
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Werner Heisenberg once told me (and the other thousand guys in the lecture hall) that he did not expect particle physics to be any less complicated than quantum chemistry.
The "Standard Model" is particle physics, and has evolved over time with better and more experimental data and evidence, and continues to be challenged with new results.
"Quantum Mechanics" is basic physics, and seems to be holding its own "underneath" particle physics and chemistry.
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No he’s right. Photons are the discrete packets of energy within the quantisation limit of Planck’s Equation (E=hv). If a state transition occurs it farts out a discrete chunk of energy that we call a photon. The photon abstraction is just a discretisation abstraction. It’s still waves in theory.
It doesn’t contradict the model. Just a different way of looking at it which is correct also.
Re-read what he wrote. He claims photons only happen at visible wavelengths, which is plain wrong.
https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/s62 (https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/s62)
https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/what-is-radiation/ionising-radiation/x-ray (https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/what-is-radiation/ionising-radiation/x-ray)
The only person who has ever said that is you.....
I cannot possibly give 100 different examples or scenarios of everything just because some people are incapable of using their own brains.
Even If we just stick with the incandescent bulb example. Huge amounts of Infra-red photons are emitted.
Also very hot objects can even emit Ultra-violet radiation photons by thermal emission alone ( that includes incandescent bulbs and old halogens )
Then you can have single atom photon emissions of X- rays and even Gamma rays from particle bombardment, radioactive decay etc.
Having said that, There does seem to be a lower limit to thermal radiation around low frequency microwaves ( for atoms not far above absolute zero ).
So either you can create photons ( short pulses of electromagnetic radiation from single atoms ) Or you can create a continuous never-ending wave from a forever accelerating charge.
This isn't rocket science.