Author Topic: Changing horizontal package to vertical (TO220, TIP120) (Read 5857 times)

Martin72 · « **on:** August 02, 2020, 07:47:43 pm »

Hi everyone,

I´ve drawn a schematic where I use the darlington transistor TIP120.
Unfortunately, the package is TO220H (horizontal), this takes too much place from the pcb, also I must mounting them to a heatsink.
Question: How could I change the horizontal into vertical package ?
Of course, they are a generic TO220V package in the library avaible, but I want to have the darlington symbol in the schematic.

Martin

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2020, 09:14:49 pm »

In ver 7+ that I have there is an icon on the left toolbar that looks like a resistor with one smaller and larger. Click that and select the library that has the TO220 vertical package, and select it from the list. Next, click on the transistor on the board that will be changed.

There other ways, type in the text bar "change package" and point to the package in the library, Or click on the wrench, drop down to package and do the same.

I'm sure that there are more than a few libraries that have the vertical package.

Martin72 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2020, 09:32:43 pm »

Hi !

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Click that and select the library that has the TO220 vertical package, and select it from the list. Next, click on the transistor on the board that will be changed.

This works but will also change the symbol in the schematic (from darlington to "normal" ).

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There other ways, type in the text bar "change package" and point to the package in the library

Doing this :

Changing horizontal package to vertical (TO220, TIP120)

And there is nothing else you could do.
(Got eagle 9.2)

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2020, 09:45:34 pm »

Make sure you are doing this in the board an not the schematic. Also use the same library as the horizontal device. Click on the i icon and click on the TO220H device and see from where it came.

If that still changes the symbol, get in to the library and assign a new package (TO220V) to the darlington transistor in question.

I can show you how if you wish.

Martin72 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:13:42 pm »

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If that still changes the symbol

It does.

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I can show you how if you wish.

Would be great

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #5 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:20:49 pm »

Go to the control panel and expand the tree view under "Library"
Next select the library that the TIP120 came from, and double click it to open it in the Library Editor
Do this and I'll get back to you after you confirm that much here.

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #6 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:24:02 pm »

Please confirm if you have 3 vertical panels showing now.

Martin72 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:34:36 pm »

Hi,

Next evening, I´m going to bed, it´s late....

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:36:08 pm »

Well you are 2 minutes away from completion, but tired is tired. I am GMT -5

Martin72 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2020, 07:28:19 pm »

Hi,

This here ?

WTF, Upload won´t work

Martin72 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2020, 07:42:46 pm »

Next try....

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:15:17 pm »

No file uploaded. As you see I am here now.

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:16:19 pm »

Quote from: Quarlo Klobrigney on Yesterday at 07:20:49

Go to the control panel and expand the tree view under "Library"
Next select the library that the TIP120 came from, and double click it to open it in the Library Editor
Do this and I'll get back to you after you confirm that much here.

Martin72 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:21:15 pm »

Got Eagle 9.6.2 (Free),

You can open the library in the control panel, open the library power transistors, click on TIP120 and right from it, it shows the symbol and the package.
You couldn´t do anything else.

Try again to upload the screenshot...

edit and still won´t work

edit 2:

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:23:57 pm »

Still no picture. Reply to me, expand add attachment, drag photo to where it says to. Save.

Martin72 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:42:45 pm »

I know how it goes - But actually it won´t go.
Therefore I´ve used an external uploader, see last post.

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:50:59 pm »

I ask the question again, do you see 3 vertical panes? Is the left one where the library is?
left double click on the library for the TIP120. Without a screenshot, I can't help you.

Martin72 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2020, 08:59:42 pm »

Trust me, there WAS a screenshot visible !!!!!

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:09:44 pm »

I can see the image in your PM. You must double left click to open it in the editor. If that doesn't work, right click and see what options there are.

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #19 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:11:34 pm »

I also noted that you are in Preview mode. Try Home.

Martin72 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:16:54 pm »

Hi,

With the upgrade to 9.6.2, I think I get it now - Will post the result next evening, thank you for your help so far !

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:23:14 pm »

How about this attached library?

Martin72 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:28:59 pm »

Works !

Unfortunately, I have to search for an alternative to eagle - In the last hour I´ve experienced, that there are no longer eagle-only licenses avaible (want to change from fee to a real license).
You can get eagle only in fusion360 included - for 58€/month, way too expensive for users like me...

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #23 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:31:33 pm »

Good!

You'll notice the horizontal one has no hole. Somehow it got deleted. If you want to try navigating the tree view and learn to edit the library, I can help you tomorrow if you wish.

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:33:33 pm »

I thought they were still selling V7 licenses?
Quote from: Martin72 on Today at 06:28:59

Unfortunately, I have to search for an alternative to eagle - In the last hour I've experienced, that there are no longer eagle-only licenses available (want to change from fee to a real license).
You can get eagle only in fusion360 included - for 58€/month, way too expensive for users like me...

Martin72 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:38:56 pm »

Found nothing about it, any hints are welcome , because I´ve tried other programs like kicad or target - Eagle fits to me best...

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2020, 09:43:28 pm »

Try giving them a call tomorrow and see if you can purchase a license for version 7.
As far as I remember they have support in Germany if that's where you're at. I will never upgrade to anything higher. I have had Eagle since v3.xx, and everything after v7 is crap. And when Kicad gets its act together, I will perhaps migrate. Not now though.

Martin72 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 04, 2020, 08:53:18 pm »

So finally I could managed it...

Upgrading to version 9.6. , it was piece of a cake.
Just jump in the library, select the TIP120, click to "add package", select TO220V, name the connections - Done....
I swear, this wasn´t implemented in version 9.2., as I couldn´t find it.
Thx at all.
What Eagle 7 license concerns, I´ll contact them in the next days.

Martin

Quarlo Klobrigney · « **Reply #28 on:** August 04, 2020, 09:57:26 pm »

Well good!
I just got electrical power back. This is the first I've heard of the repair being an upgrade.

westfw · « **Reply #29 on:** August 05, 2020, 12:21:13 am »

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I swear, this wasn´t implemented in version 9.2

It's not so much an EAGLE version thing as a library thing.The "old" EAGLE Libraries commonly had separate "components" for different mounting options of MANY parts, where it always seemed more natural to me to have multiple packages for the same component. I don't know why. For TO220 parts, it ALMOST makes sense, because there is that heatsink tab that you may want to do something with, when the part is mounted horizontally. Other parts, not so much :-(
Some of those libraries were very old (they were that way when I started using EAGLE 3.55 or so.)

The cynic in me says maybe CadSoft is updating their libraries so that they won't work with older versions of EAGLE any more. :-(

Martin72 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 08, 2020, 09:20:42 pm »

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What Eagle 7 license concerns, I´ll contact them in the next days.

No need to do this now.
Got a one year for free license for fusion 360, my eagle 9.6.2 changed from free to premium version.


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