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Offline macegr

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2020, 05:28:55 pm »
Matt Berggren from Autodesk estimates it will take them at least 1 year to fully integrate Eagle into Fusion 360 and another 1 year to herd people from desktop Eagle to Fusion Eagle:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/eagle-forum/will-eagle-as-a-standalone-product-disappear-following-the/m-p/9313704#M28372

In other words, desktop Eagle will be toast in 2 years, give or take.

Not just desktop, non-integrated Eagle, but Eagle on Linux. It's hard to phrase that as anything other than a product kill, though Autodesk will try.
 

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2020, 06:00:06 pm »
BTW, integration into Fusion will also be the third major Eagle GUI overhaul in the last 4 years. Take that as you will.
 

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2020, 06:03:25 pm »
Not really - everything up to this point has been largely incremental. Lipstick on a pig......

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2020, 03:14:57 am »
Not much in this update directly for Eagle users other than maybe the Team side of things. This only went live today.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/blog/march-2020-product-update-whats-new/

The major update of note is the refinement of the 3D sketching capabilities and Fusion now has a built in Slicer capability for 3D printing. Early quick look at the 3D printing side of it and video here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/3d-printer-yet/msg2958130/#msg2958130
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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2020, 11:42:13 am »
Please, avoid trying to design something in Fusion Electronics. I've been pulling my hair for the last week. |O
There are more bugs than features. It is a joke. I hope they get their s**t together soon because releasing this "thing" to the public is not serious. :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:
 

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2020, 07:50:59 pm »
Please, avoid trying to design something in Fusion Electronics. I've been pulling my hair for the last week. |O
There are more bugs than features. It is a joke. I hope they get their s**t together soon because releasing this "thing" to the public is not serious. :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:

I made this determination after about 30 minutes.

It is currently a sad little experiment that should not have escaped the developers test environment. I do, however, believe they will get it dialed in in due time. The major alarm for me is the initially, they BROKE the existing workflow and I had no immediate fallback. They fixed that so at least I can function normally until they get F360 Electronics to a point of usability.
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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2020, 01:16:32 am »

I made this determination after about 30 minutes.

It is currently a sad little experiment that should not have escaped the developers test environment. I do, however, believe they will get it dialed in in due time. The major alarm for me is the initially, they BROKE the existing workflow and I had no immediate fallback. They fixed that so at least I can function normally until they get F360 Electronics to a point of usability.
Sadly I was too excited about the possibilities it promised that I kept lying to myself until half an hour ago. I've spent a couple hours routing a PCB (the same I've needed a whole week fighting Fusion to design the schematics, footprints and packages for) and in this amount of time I must have saved at least 5 times. Suddenly Fusion crashes and when I open it back up all the routing is lost in the 2D PCB but present on the 3D PCB. No way of getting it back there, all the "versions" saved on the last couple of hours of the 2D PCB (what would be the .brd in Eagle) are identical.
Yeah, it looks cool and someday it will be a nice program, but man they shot themselves in the foot.
I expect it will be at least a year until it is somewhat usable. The amount of bugs is staggering. I haven't seen anything this bad in a long time.
It was too good to be true... Now I get why they give it away for free with an Eagle License... because it is useless!
 

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #82 on: April 01, 2020, 08:43:35 pm »
Happy to keep my stand-alone copy of Eagle professional version 6.5.0 from back in 2013.  There is no footprint that I have not been able to make myself and no board I haven't been able to route.  I'm 56 years old and it will probably last for what I need to do for the rest of my life.  No, I don't have integrated Spice, but have never needed it in my field.
 

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2020, 07:50:04 pm »
Happy to keep my stand-alone copy of Eagle professional version 6.5.0 from back in 2013.  There is no footprint that I have not been able to make myself and no board I haven't been able to route.  I'm 56 years old and it will probably last for what I need to do for the rest of my life.  No, I don't have integrated Spice, but have never needed it in my field.

Me too!....have V6.5 Pro key as purchased Dec.2013.......always in reserve to CircuitStudio.
Always liked Eagle, just hated the component library management.

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Re: Eagle will be part of Fusion360
« Reply #84 on: April 13, 2020, 03:52:18 pm »
Hi all,

my few adds to the conversation. First, in general I think the whole idea behind it is not bad. To get the pcb into 3D and design around it is ok. And I disagree with the sentence that professionals will not design electronic and mechanic - real professionals will not use fusion 360 at first place and apparently Autodesk do not believe that Eagle was ever a professional softwate (they might have $$$ data to back it up).

Totally agree with all of you that all this integration is a disaster so far. Eagle was not 100% intuitive software but you could get used to it. Now I don't even no where are my files, where are the libraries. Can't modify library.
For example, I have typical SOIC 74HC595 in the project from standard eagle library. it does not have a proper 3D model, so I wanted to change it (using not so bad generator), but... can't overwrite the 3D in the original library. I can make a copy of the library, but the components are already in the design so I would need to delete them and add and connect again :(

Also, there's no print in the option, I need to type "print" like in 1980s :/

and as I am writing this post, my computer is calculating cut in the case. By default it overlaped to the board, so it's cutting through the layers. 2019 i9, 32GB RAM :):)

 


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