Ltspice is a big dissapointment !

[DimitriP]

The sad part about this conversation is that if LTSPICE was a program that was sold,  and a company was dependent on its "appeal" for continued sales, it would have been "revamped" a few times by now.
Like so many other "commercial" products that while still doing the same thing, the interface gets switched around for the sake of "change" in order to sell the new version and differentiate it from the "old" version.
I just know there are some of you out there that are super excited about windows 11  

[james_s]

I consider it a feature when software is stable, mature and rarely changes. I still use Office 2003 on my Windows machine, 20 years old now and it does way more than I need a word processor and spreadsheet to do. Best part is it doesn't have that stupid ribbon.

[DimitriP]

I consider it a feature when software is stable, mature and rarely changes. I still use Office 2003 on my Windows machine, 20 years old now and it does way more than I need a word processor and spreadsheet to do. Best part is it doesn't have that stupid ribbon.

So...there are two of us!

[iMo]

https://ltwiki.org/index.php?title=LTspice_Genealogy_-_The_Heritage_of_Simulation_Ubiquity

Btw I used to use the Spice (3G5 afaik) in 1987 (or 88) on my Atari520 (1MB dram), CLI only, no GUI. The binary size was around 350kB.. I wrote an app in Basic for generating nice graphs out of the text outputs later on..

[PlainName]

The fact that you don't know how to use a professional tool meant for professional engineers doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the tool.

Regardless of whether it's 'professional' or whatever, a tool works best when it is made to fit the user, not vice versa. Making it easier to use doesn't make it 'unprofessional' or a toy, it just makes things more efficient, less error prone and allows the user to focus on the result rather than the journey.

And, for that matter, just because user interface elements are new doesn't mean they are bad. Over time we learn what works well (and doesn't) and new ways to do things. Obviously, stuff made before these elements were available can't use them, but that doesn't automatically mean the old stuff is somehow better. Or that you have to suffer in order to be a 'professional' user.

[james_s]

And, for that matter, just because user interface elements are new doesn't mean they are bad. Over time we learn what works well (and doesn't) and new ways to do things. Obviously, stuff made before these elements were available can't use them, but that doesn't automatically mean the old stuff is somehow better. Or that you have to suffer in order to be a 'professional' user.

The reverse is also true, just because interface elements are new doesn't mean that they're better, or that older ones are bad. I'm not arguing that the older stuff is magically better, only that it is not automatically worse. LTSpice is a popular tool that works very well for its intended users, there's always room for improvement, but that will require somebody who thinks that improvement is worth the cost of doing it and the risk of breaking something else, which is virtually inevitable in software development.

[tchiwam]

I am warming up to Kicad + NGspice ...  Not perfect but somewhat usable and less frustration than typing everything or converting the netlist.

[nctnico]

I consider it a feature when software is stable, mature and rarely changes. I still use Office 2003 on my Windows machine, 20 years old now and it does way more than I need a word processor and spreadsheet to do. Best part is it doesn't have that stupid ribbon.

So...there are two of us!

No, three!

[Messtechniker]

Make that four!