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Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« on: October 21, 2019, 06:34:02 pm »
I used PCB shopper and found aisler.net They claim to do a 4 layer 95x95mm PCB for 122 euro. Is this possible? Are they any good?
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 06:47:13 pm »
Ten (!) 100x100mm PCBs with 4 layers will cost less than half of that (<$50) if done in China, so why should it be impossible?
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 06:53:49 pm »
not really, next best offer from china was 150, this is 7 day turn around. I am sure that with longer leads price goes down. PCB cart wan't nearly 300 for 8 days
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 07:09:32 pm »
You didn't mention a time constraint, did you?
Anyway e.g. Elecrow states 5-8 working days (without shipping of course) and 96h rush service adds another $40. You can save another day by additional $20.
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 07:13:08 pm »
I just tried them, no complaints. It was a reboot of an old project so a pretty basic 2-layer board mostly THT plus a few SMD parts so not the best to benchmark for quality, but looked fine to me.

I ordered on Oct 5th, they were shipped on 11th and they actually arrived I think about Weds 16th.

 

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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2019, 07:29:42 pm »
I'm amazed that I can upload my kicad file and that they add an option to make a donation to kicad. Yes my boss will be paying the donation.......
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2019, 07:45:41 pm »
My first order with them went out for production, earlier today. Mine was also a fairly unambitious, two layer, through hole design. I will closely inspect them with a stereo microscope. If you like, I can post pictures of their workmanship.
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2019, 07:49:11 pm »
I'm ordering tomorrow so thank you for the offer but won't help much :)
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 10:48:57 am »
I the end I went to Wurth Elektronik. They were marginally more expensive than PCB train in 10 working days but do it in 6.

I will personally aisler out myself later but I did not want to take the risk on a work project that has a schedule.
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 01:51:23 pm »
Eurocircuits wants 90 euro for 1 PCB done in 3 days. They have really slashed their prices recently.
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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2019, 01:40:44 pm »
The boards from Aisler were in my mail box this morning, five days after I ordered them. Overall, their German fab did very clean and precise work. Two boards, however, suffered what appear to be tool strikes, late in production.





I have sent the two pictures to Aisler and am awaiting their response.


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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 06:39:47 pm »
I've been happy with Aisler. They are a good alternative for OSHpark for EU based customers. Especially when you want the board as fast as possible.
For price, you still need to go to China.

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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2019, 09:37:38 am »
I've used Aisler for a couple of small PCBs in the past. The quality is really quite nice. I did have one board where the drilling was a tad off, but that was a one-off, it seems. All other boards were fine. I've done 2- and 4 layer boards.

I'm not super-happy about the turn-around time. They're collection designs just like OSHPark and then sending panels off to manufacturing after filling them. I can order PCBs from China and have them delivered faster than I can get them from Aisler. But their interface for uploading board files and their Gerber viewer are top notch.

Be careful when uploading KiCAD files, they don't seem to check if your copper zones are up to date. I got bitten by that once.
 

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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 03:11:44 pm »
Just a late follow up. After getting no reply from Aisler for a few weeks, I e-mailed them again, this time to their general inquiry address, hello@aisler.net.

Felix promptly replied, excused their late reply and resubmitted the design that had suffered tool strikes. The replacement boards arrived ten days later, as promised, and look fine.
 

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Re: Has anyone used aisler.net ?
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:29:06 pm »
I've had no luck with contacting them lately. I have a question about their 4 layer stack up that's unanswered for a few weeks now, another one for a board that I wanted to try their new blitz fabrication with that in back late and with ENIG finish instead of HASL.

Not happy with their communication as of late.
 


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