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NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: luiHS on May 28, 2022, 09:41:03 pm ---Since the Raspberry are completely sold out everywhere, in all models, I would be interested in some other alternative product. I have seen some, but they do not work well and there is no support, neither from the manufacturer, nor from a community that maintains it.

My application is simple, but still I don't know if there is something serious alternative to Raspberry that works.

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Take a look at Atomic Pi, it's just a very cheap x86 PC.

langwadt:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on August 08, 2022, 04:19:21 am ---
--- Quote from: luiHS on May 28, 2022, 09:41:03 pm ---Since the Raspberry are completely sold out everywhere, in all models, I would be interested in some other alternative product. I have seen some, but they do not work well and there is no support, neither from the manufacturer, nor from a community that maintains it.

My application is simple, but still I don't know if there is something serious alternative to Raspberry that works.

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Take a look at Atomic Pi, it's just a very cheap x86 PC.

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afaiu it is cheap because it was made for a later cancelled project and they are just selling of the stock and there will never be any more of them than was made for that project

brucehoult:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 07, 2022, 11:00:08 pm ---Somebody put this up a few days ago. Don't know if it's useful to any of you.
Pi Shortage - Are These Worthwhile Raspberry Pi Alternatives?



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Seems a bit clueless to buy two A53-based boards (that should be compared to Pi 3) and then complain they don't play HD video as well as a Pi 4.

It seems he was going by price and reasoning that something at expensive as a Pi 4 should perform like one. No. The Pi series are cheap because 1) they have huge production volume to spread costs, and 2) as a non-profit foundation funded to a considerable extent by charitable donations they don't have to recover NRE on developing the boards, software, documentation.

Also, in his failed software build he didn't have sufficient clue to understand he was trying to build non-portable 32 bit software (casting pointers to int32) on a 64 bit OS. The assembly languag errors were weird, with the offending instructions using a mix of ARM32 and ARM64 register names. I'm guessing it's C code with inline asm, and the hand-written asm is 32 bit ARMv7 code, while the 64 bit (naturally) compiler is substituting in variable names as ARM64 register names.

rooppoorali:
Orange Pi, Banana Pi, Beaglebone are some options. But may  find it difficult to buy those too now a days.

brucehoult:

--- Quote from: rooppoorali on September 26, 2022, 07:10:36 pm ---Orange Pi, Banana Pi, Beaglebone are some options. But may  find it difficult to buy those too now a days.

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I've heard Raspberry Pi is even worse than the rest because they are prioritising large industrial orders, possibly with penalties for non-performance.

In the seven weeks this thread has been idle a new pretty nice looking RISC-V board, the VisionFive 2, has been officially announced and had a 30 day Kickstarter campaign -- just to take orders, not to finance development, which is already completed with boards being manufactured already, and first deliveries due in November. They got 2017 backers pledging a total of SG$213,963 (US$149k).

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/starfive/visionfive-2/description

The kickstarter has ended but you can now make preorders elsewhere:

https://forum.rvspace.org/t/how-to-purchase-visionfive-2/665

Prices start from US$45 for a board with 2 GB RAM, up to $65 with 8 GB.

The quad SiFive U74 RISC-V cores are something like 80% of the performance of the ARM A72 in the Pi 4 at the same MHz. The Imagination Tech GPU is reportedly 4x as powerful as the GPU in the Pi 4, which if properly supported is probably more important for many people. Developers who already have one are saying they run great at the advertised 1.5 GHz, or at 1.75 GHz with a small passive heatsink.

Pine64 will announce a board with the same SoC very soon. We know it's called the "Star64" and looks the same as their Quartz64 model A and they say the price and performance are about the same also.

There are apparently a couple of RISC-V boards with quad core 2.5 GHz OoO cores similar to A72 to be announced in December (one company said shipping in December too, in a Telegram chat).  Then there will be boards with RISC-V cores similar to ARM A76 maybe near the end of first half of 2023 (similar to the new RK3588 ARM SBCs that are selling for $150 to $250+)

There's a lot happening, if companies can get chips and boards manufactured.

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