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miguelvp:

--- Quote from: m4l490n on October 13, 2015, 11:41:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: miguelvp on September 30, 2014, 05:32:10 pm ---Nice, here is Arrows offering at $30 and with built in programmer and more goodies than the other board, but no stock yet, and their edge connector that is expensive, but I have an adaptor for it already

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Taking a look to the BEMICROMAX10 I can see that it has a connector labeled as "USB_Blaster_JTAG" which I assume is the edge connector you are referring to (and that can be seen in the image). Can I use this USB_Blaster_JTAG instead of a $300usd USB Blaster to program the "MAX 10 FPGA Evaluation Kit" https://www.altera.com/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-max-10-evaluation.html?

Regards.

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The edge connector is the 80 pin one, so if you need more I/O pins you can get this connector and make your own board to expand your I/O

http://www.findchips.com/search/MEC614002
http://octopart.com/partsearch#!?q=MEC614002

Arrow also sells an interposer for $50 that allows you to connect to many Analog Devices Reference boards:

Interposer:
http://components.arrow.com/part/detail/NEG50150698S8959040N1911

AD Reference Boards:
https://wiki.analog.com/resources/alliances/altera
http://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-platforms/sdp.html#Compatible-Boards

But you don't need any of that to program the Bemicro Max10 since it has a built in USB-Blaster, that extra edge connector is for expanding the BeMicro.

A good resource for the BeMicro Max10 is on this wiki:
http://www.alterawiki.com/wiki/BeMicro_MAX_10



m4l490n:

--- Quote from: miguelvp on October 14, 2015, 12:00:36 am ---The edge connector is the 80 pin one

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Thanks for answering. And my bad. My question was wrong. What I need to know is if I can use the connector J7 as shown in the attached image to program other MAX10 FPGA tool. Speciffically, the MAX 10 FPGA Evaluation Kit.

miguelvp:
To be honest I never did noticed J7 (finger connector) and I was referring to J2, thinking it was the only edge connector.

I haven't look too much in detail in the schematic:

http://www.alterawiki.com/uploads/e/ec/BeMicro_Max_10-Schematic_A4-20141008.pdf

But they do have:
FPGA_TDI
FPGA_TMS
FPGA_TDO
FPGA_TCK
on pins 1 to 4 of the MAX V CPLD
and:
USB_TCK
USB_TDO
USB_TMS
USB_ASDO
USB_TDI
USB_NCE
USB_NCS
on pins 51-58 (skipping 57) of the MAX V CPLD(USB-Blaster)

So I'm not sure what is in there.

Also there are CPLD_TMS CPLD_TDI CPLD_TCK & CPLD_TDO on pins 14-17, also on the MAX V CPLD, that connect to the CPLD_JTAG on header J6 (unpopulated) but that would be to talk to the MAX V CPLD.

Would anything connected on the USB... show on the Quartus programmer? not sure.

Edit: it seems U2 (the Max 10) uses the FPGA_ ones, I don't think is on the same JTAG boundary as those USB_ ones but I guess you can figure it out.

Otherwise you can always get a USB-Blaster 2 from vwshare (although I don't know their ebay store and ordering directly from them is weird)
http://www.wvshare.com/column/ALTERA_programmer.htm

Wait, I found their ebay store:
http://www.ebay.com/usr/waveshare?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

Item:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Blaster-V2-Download-Cable-ALTERA-FPGA-CPLD-EPCS16-EPC1-4-Programmer-Debugger-/251150460146

Edit2: but I did never purchased that device so I don't know if it will work with the Max 10, it should but I can't be sure.

ale500:
The ICE40UL devices have also a PLL, a QFP-48 version should be available soon... I just checked mouser and there is nothing in this package yet :(, oh well...

ale500:
I'm trying to get to the MAX10 documentation part of Altera's website... it keeps saying "Login timeout" but I can access MAXV's documentations without problems... have you also hit this problem ?

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