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Altera Quartus II Support
« on: November 30, 2012, 04:07:31 am »
http://www.altera.com/literature/po/ss_quartussevswe.pdf

Why the hell doesn't the free web edition support the ancient Cyclone 1  :-//
It's the one I needed!  >:(

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2012, 06:16:40 am »
just download an older version of quartus. grab a 9.xx series.

go here : https://www.altera.com/download/dnl-index.jsp  and select Quartus II web edition . then in the second column pick your version.
i'm sure the 9xx series web edition does cyclone 1.

cyclone 1 is end of life afaik ...

anyway , there is NO difference between web and subscription for the first 30 days ... just click 'trial' during install. after that it will bomb down to a web.
I too use older version of Quartus simply becasue the newer ones removed the built in simulator. Screw modelsim. i like to draw waveforms as opposed to dicking around with writing testbenches.

-edit- : 10.1SP1 is the last WEB edition that supports cyclone 1
« Last Edit: November 30, 2012, 06:32:37 am by free_electron »
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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2012, 06:37:17 am »
Thanks.
That's begs the question, WTF did they remove it in later editions?  |O

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 06:38:09 am »
end of life
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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 07:05:49 am »
end of life

Yeah, but why not just leave the support files there and simply no longer maintain it?

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 07:43:17 am »
Cyclone 1 might be NRND, but removing support from the tools is just crazy. Have they never heard of maintenance?

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 08:51:34 am »
Subscription edition still has support for it, so no problem for paying customers :P

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 01:16:45 pm »
If I'm not wrong the full version still have the Cyclone 1, it was only removed from the free version, just because Altera don't want people using it in new projects and nothing better than removing it from the free version, the version that people starting with Altera will download and use first  ;) It's just a way to manipulate people for only using the parts that they want  ::)
 

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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 02:43:37 pm »
end of life

Yeah, but why not just leave the support files there and simply no longer maintain it?

Dave.
Maybe they made some changes to theSW that required changes to the device-specific files & couldn't be bothered to do it.
Or, possibly more likely, they didn't think it worth the time to do any testing of the new software with older devices.
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Re: Altera Quartus II Support
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 07:06:55 pm »
Same problem here. I have a design with two Cyclone I's I did when they were spanking new (I still have a devboard with an engineering sample on it 8)) and I can't do any maintenance on it with newer releases of Quartus. And the marketing blabla of the Cyclone I on the site does mention it's supported in the Free Edition.

Oh well, just use an older release, but you don't have the advantages of possible bugfixes and/or other improvements, if any.
 


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