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Electronics => FPGA => Topic started by: bingo600 on March 09, 2013, 10:42:37 pm

Title: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 09, 2013, 10:42:37 pm
They're less than half price , and are located in Germany.

'bay number  - 310620854594

/Bingo


Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: Tepe on March 10, 2013, 08:51:03 am
They're less than half price , and are located in Germany.

'bay number  - 310620854594

/Bingo
Have you seen the insane price on the Danish RS site, Bingo?
DKK 3555.05 = ~€477 or about eight times the price on the bay.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/microcontrollers/some-cheap-new-xilinx-xc3s500e-spartan-3e-fpga-starter-kits-on-e*ay-eu/?action=dlattach;attach=40998;image)
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 10, 2013, 10:05:35 am
They're less than half price , and are located in Germany.

'bay number  - 310620854594

/Bingo
Have you seen the insane price on the Danish RS site, Bingo?
DKK 3555.05 = ~€477 or about eight times the price on the bay.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/microcontrollers/some-cheap-new-xilinx-xc3s500e-spartan-3e-fpga-starter-kits-on-e*ay-eu/?action=dlattach;attach=40998;image)

I normally avoid RS & Farnell , if i have to get from a distri i always check out ELFA first.

But mostly i use 'bay , and for "other" components   CSD in Germany - http://www.csd-electronics.de/ (http://www.csd-electronics.de/)
Just make sure to contact CSD if you need it in a hurry , sometimes there can be several weeks in deliverytime (non stock)

But that RS price is "insane" , and prob. even wo. VAT.


/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: Tepe on March 10, 2013, 11:13:44 am
But that RS price is "insane" , and prob. even wo. VAT.

But of course, it's without VAT   ::)
They kindly don't charge you for shipping, however, so for DKK 4443.81 it's all yours.
The one on ebay has a €10 shipping cost to DK, by the way, pushing the price all the way up to a modest DKK 520 to the door.
It is a bargain.
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 10, 2013, 11:58:30 am
@tepe

Did you buy #10 ?

I got #9

Ohh btw: Seller's other devel kits are rather pricey , so it's strange that these are so cheap (They're listed as new & unopened).
He even has a STM8S-Discovery listed as a STM85-Discovery for 14.xx € , it costs 7.xx €  @ Watterott (New)

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: PA0PBZ on March 10, 2013, 12:18:39 pm
I bought one too (#11?), Thanks for the tip Bingo!  :-+
Strangely I only see € 20 shipping, also when I set it to Denmark...
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 10, 2013, 12:22:26 pm
I bought one too (#11?), Thanks for the tip Bingo!  :-+
Strangely I only see € 20 shipping, also when I set it to Denmark...

Use the afterbuy link in the mail , it'll automaticly adjust shipping.
I'd guess NL is even cheaper than DK.

If you read further on the 'bay page , he gives examples of shipping (DK 16 € - 12KG ) , and EU 20 €
I guess he's telling the "EU" shipping and relies on the "Kaufabwiklung" to adjust to the correct price.

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: Tepe on March 10, 2013, 01:28:32 pm
@tepe

Did you buy #10 ?

I got #9
Probably. It said he had sold 9 when I did it.

Ohh btw: Seller's other devel kits are rather pricey , so it's strange that these are so cheap (They're listed as new & unopened).
Maybe they fell off a lorry?
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: mrflibble on March 10, 2013, 07:08:37 pm
500k gates. meh. :P But assuming ~ 65 EUR shipped it's a nice price for this board if it's really new.
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 10, 2013, 08:50:57 pm
500k gates. meh. :P But assuming ~ 65 EUR shipped it's a nice price for this board if it's really new.

For now i'd be happy just to get a XC9536 or XC9572 do a blinky  :phew:

So this board is like , when i was running DOS 2.11 with a Segate ST-225 25MB  HDD ... I can't imagine me filling it up ever ....
Well that changed ....

But i expect , it'll take a while before i grow out of this kit.

/Bingo

Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: PA0PBZ on March 13, 2013, 12:22:41 pm
Just got the package, it's genuine in the Xilinx box, sealed and all.
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: mrflibble on March 13, 2013, 01:44:15 pm
Just got the package, it's genuine in the Xilinx box, sealed and all.

 :-+

Good price then! So good apparently the seller's felt like a bit of price adjustment. :P

Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 13, 2013, 04:54:52 pm
Daummm ....

I'm still waiting for the packet.

A 20€ Rise ... Glad i made it for €60

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 13, 2013, 05:23:19 pm
Just got the package, it's genuine in the Xilinx box, sealed and all.

What was shipping ?

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: DaWaN on March 13, 2013, 07:18:24 pm
I received mine today :)
New and genuine, box is from 2009 and came with Xilinx ISE 11.1 software.
Board is rev. D

Shipping was 10 euro to The Netherlands
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: PA0PBZ on March 13, 2013, 08:09:21 pm
What was shipping ?

I paid before I got the mail from him, so it was the default € 20. (still a good price anyway).

Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 14, 2013, 09:45:57 pm
Also got my package today  :-+

Sealed S3E-Kit , and some of his other goodies 1, 4.7, 10uF ceramic reels

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: bingo600 on March 15, 2013, 11:37:11 pm
Just saw this post
http://forums.xilinx.com/t5/New-Users-Forum/USB-issues-with-old-Spartan-3e-Starter-Kit/td-p/252418/page/3# (http://forums.xilinx.com/t5/New-Users-Forum/USB-issues-with-old-Spartan-3e-Starter-Kit/td-p/252418/page/3#)

Seems like the new ISE 14.x might have troubles with the usb-programmer on the older boards , (needs a cpld firmware upgrade)

/Bingo
Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: PA0PBZ on March 16, 2013, 10:16:00 am
I'm on 14.3, and it looks like there is no problem. I think iMPACT even updated the board:

AutoDetecting cable. Please wait.
PROGRESS_START - Starting Operation.
Connecting to cable (Usb Port - USB21).
Checking cable driver.
 Driver file xusb_emb.sys found.
 Driver version: src=1029, dest=1029.
 Driver windrvr6.sys version = 10.2.1.0. WinDriver v10.21 Jungo (c) 1997 - 2010 Build Date: Aug 31 2010 x86_64 64bit SYS 14:14:44, version = 1021.
 Cable PID = 0008.
 Max current requested during enumeration is 74 mA.
Type = 0x0004.
 Cable Type = 3, Revision = 0.
 Setting cable speed to 6 MHz.
Cable connection established.
Firmware version = 1029.
File version of E:/Xilinx/14.3/ISE_DS/ISE/data/xusb_xlp.hex = 1303.
Firmware hex file version = 1303.
Downloading E:/Xilinx/14.3/ISE_DS/ISE/data/xusb_xlp.hex.
Downloaded firmware version = 1303.

Title: Re: Some cheap new - Xilinx XC3S500E Spartan-3E FPGA STARTER KITs on E*ay EU
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on March 16, 2013, 11:12:04 am
ISTR reading around the time Xilinx stopped hiding the programmer part of the schematics on their devboards that Impact would automatically program a blank CPLD.