Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
Vitor
Ryzen 2700X (would consider the 2600X if others thought putting $ elsewhere is better as there is about a $90 differential)
32GB DDR4 3200 Ram (Corsair or Ripjaws or ?)
500 GB (Samsung Evo 970 plus?)
B450 Pro Wifi motherboard (seems to tick all the boxes now and upgrading later) https://www.gigabyte.com/au/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
H500 Cooler Master or similar case that is roomy and quiet
Power Supply 5-600W modular leads and quiet
Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
Vitor
Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
VitorI don't see value in that. Poor performance for what it is and power burner.
Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
VitorI don't see value in that. Poor performance for what it is and power burner.
OP wants a workstation for CAD (= typical single core application) and rendering (= typical multi core application).
Having a HP Z600 with 2x X5670 will give you 12 cores with HT = 24 logic cores. Ideal for rendering.
This will render faster than a current Core i7 CPU with 4 cores = 8 logic cores, even if they have faster clock and increased performance.
And yes, some CAD/CAM/CAE applications will not work correctly on AMD processors.
Same with graphics cards. The nvidia Quadro range is not faster than similar GTX cards - they are just certified for certain CAD/CAM applications. You pay this certification and the fact that the driver/card may unlock some special functionality, that only applies to a given CAD application.
If you're NOT going Threadripper, then you want to wait for the 570x boards to come out so you know what RAM to buy.[/b][/i] For a media-rendering build you for sure want the bandwidth of pcie4.0 and Zen2 family processors. But wait... Current market news indicates you're going to be looking at all of $40-60 more for all this quantum-leap in bandwidth, so older chipsets will be heavily deprecated quickly.
quad-channel RAM, as you'll soon be able to double up whatever RAM you buy now for a song.
Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
VitorI don't see value in that. Poor performance for what it is and power burner.
OP wants a workstation for CAD (= typical single core application) and rendering (= typical multi core application).
.....
Delaying indefinitely because new box/board/processor in coming is and will always be true but at some point you just need to bit the bullet and do it.
Double checked and Fusion 360 uses as many cores as it can. 'Modern' CAD btw is certainly not a single core use case, load up a decent size model on an I3 or I5 and see my level of pain
As to 'certified' GPU's it will be worth a look but I couldn't find anything specific. DaVinci Resolve compatibility/optimisation is more important in my case.
If you're NOT going Threadripper, then you want to wait for the 570x boards to come out so you know what RAM to buy.[/b][/i] For a media-rendering build you for sure want the bandwidth of pcie4.0 and Zen2 family processors. But wait... Current market news indicates you're going to be looking at all of $40-60 more for all this quantum-leap in bandwidth, so older chipsets will be heavily deprecated quickly.They won't come with DDR5 for sure since there are no modules yet to begin with. It doesn't even need to be X570 since memory controller is built in into CPU. Motherboard specs are already available BTW https://www.amd.com/en/chipsets/x570. Unless for extremely fast NVMe SSD, pcie4.0 has barely any advantage. But even current ones are extremely fast. So you need to do very specific tasks with top notch SSD to feel any difference.Quotequad-channel RAM, as you'll soon be able to double up whatever RAM you buy now for a song.Quad channel RAM is only for threadripper. Usual Ryzen has 2 channels, don't confuse that with RAM slots.
Delaying indefinitely because new box/board/processor in coming is and will always be true but at some point you just need to bit the bullet and do it.But buying one week before release of next generation (which on top of that offers huge performance boost) is not wise in any circumstances unless you need it today.
However, discussion I've read suggesting the possibility of DDR5 support says it would need power supply changes that current chipsets can't provide.
However, discussion I've read suggesting the possibility of DDR5 support says it would need power supply changes that current chipsets can't provide.RAM voltage has nothing to do with chipset.
However, discussion I've read suggesting the possibility of DDR5 support says it would need power supply changes that current chipsets can't provide.RAM voltage has nothing to do with chipset.Oh FFS... the VRM ICs come in families just like the chipset. It IS part of the chipset specification. Now you're just picking nits.
Cheapest option is buying HP Z600 workstation for 150 Euro and fitting two Xeon X5670. Make sure you get the later motherboard supporting these and buy one taht already comes with two CPUs.
Then fit a SSD and a Geforce GTX860. Buy memory.
Total cost is around 400 Euro for 24 virtual cores, 24GB RAM, GTX and SSD.
Can't beat this price/performance ratio.
Regards,
Vitor
Now you are inventing stuff. First of all, it's not like each generation of chipsets come with their own VRM controllers. Although CPU/SoC VRM controllers generally are compliant with Intel/AMD spec (often compatible to both) which changes from time to time. RAM VRM controller usually is a separate dumb chip like RT8120 which is quite typical for Ryzen boards. And even if what you said above was true, nothing prohibits configuring it with lower output voltage.
Now you are inventing stuff. First of all, it's not like each generation of chipsets come with their own VRM controllers. Although CPU/SoC VRM controllers generally are compliant with Intel/AMD spec (often compatible to both) which changes from time to time. RAM VRM controller usually is a separate dumb chip like RT8120 which is quite typical for Ryzen boards. And even if what you said above was true, nothing prohibits configuring it with lower output voltage.And? How does your diagram in any way negate what I just said? Or do you just HAVE to be right, so you just can't even consider the possibility?
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