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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: DiTBho on May 14, 2023, 10:57:57 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on May 13, 2023, 09:09:07 pm ---You sound angry. ;D

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Even on YouTube, there is a dude fighting with GPUs and other "made with PC in mind" peripherals since he would like to use them with his RPI-CM4, and ... they just don't work.

Nobody - not even engineers at AMD (at least, those who are allowed to speak) - knows why  :o :o :o

but if you look at comments, there is always someone - "hey, ok? why are you doing so? that GPU perfectly works in my PeeeeCeeee, and my PeeeeeCeeeee costs a quarter of effort and money of your setup" -

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I understand your concern, but it's hard to blame companies for making stuff that actually sells and makes money. And sure they almost all make shortcuts regarding full compliance with standards, just barely making it for the markets they target. That most of the designers of said hardware don't even know why it doesn't work outside of what's been targeted is no surprise either, you can't battle on all fronts. I find that frustrating too, but I don't really know how that could be otherwise.

james_s:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on May 14, 2023, 07:51:58 pm ---I understand your concern, but it's hard to blame companies for making stuff that actually sells and makes money. And sure they almost all make shortcuts regarding full compliance with standards, just barely making it for the markets they target. That most of the designers of said hardware don't even know why it doesn't work outside of what's been targeted is no surprise either, you can't battle on all fronts. I find that frustrating too, but I don't really know how that could be otherwise.

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Exactly, they don't know why it works because they haven't investigated. They haven't investigated because they aren't being paid to troubleshoot why an unsupported configuration doesn't work. Most of us involved in developing products don't do it for fun, we do it for a paycheck, and if my boss doesn't want me spending company time testing on a platform we don't claim to support then I'm not going to do it. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but if it's not something we claim to support then I don't care, it's hard enough just making sure something works properly with the supported configurations. Want some other platform supported? Make a business case for doing so.

DiTBho:

(Why Intel x86 will DIE sooner than you think!)

 :popcorn:

james_s:

--- Quote from: DiTBho on May 25, 2023, 07:57:26 pm ---
(Why Intel x86 will DIE sooner than you think!)

 :popcorn:

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LOL it's a year later and x86 is still by far the most popular desktop platform. Your hatred for it and the fact that you wish it would die doesn't mean it will. Have you noticed that nobody else here shares your strange hatred of the architecture? Most people simply don't care.

https://www.counterpointresearch.com/arm-based-pcs-to-nearly-double-market-share-by-2027/

ARM is predicted to double market share by 2027, reaching 25%. x86 still well over 60% still at that point, it's not going anywhere.

DiTBho:
"in the future, it will be different, everyone will be running free GNU on their RISC computer [...]" (Tanenbaum)


mnt pocket-reform pre-ordered, review coming soon.
PM me if I forget to update this thread.

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