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A week using an Apple iPhone -- An Android user's perspective

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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 02, 2019, 04:57:29 pm ---I'll have been abducted by North Korean spies and rubber hosed at their embassy before then :)

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We'll rubber hose you regardless.

0culus:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 02, 2019, 03:18:32 pm ---*snip*

That's a pretty advanced multi-stage attack. With the price attached to such attacks that was either sold to a state level entity or developed by one to start with. Probably what they're doing when the borrow your phone on entering China.

*snip*

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Strongly doubt any nation state actor worth their salt would do that. If you have a reasonable belief that you hold something like this exclusively, it's way too good of an exploit to burn by using it in too many places. Something like this would definitely be used in a targeted manner vs. HVTs by a nation state actor.

bd139:

--- Quote from: 0culus on September 02, 2019, 05:00:16 pm ---Strongly doubt any nation state actor worth their salt would do that. If you have a reasonable belief that you hold something like this exclusively, it's way too good of an exploit to burn by using it in too many places. Something like this would definitely be used in a targeted manner vs. HVTs by a nation state actor.

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Depends what the objective is and what other exploits are available. Don't forget the security agencies stockpile these things.

0culus:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 02, 2019, 05:08:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: 0culus on September 02, 2019, 05:00:16 pm ---Strongly doubt any nation state actor worth their salt would do that. If you have a reasonable belief that you hold something like this exclusively, it's way too good of an exploit to burn by using it in too many places. Something like this would definitely be used in a targeted manner vs. HVTs by a nation state actor.

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Depends what the objective is and what other exploits are available. Don't forget the security agencies stockpile these things.

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Sure, which absolutely means you don't want to burn a really juicy exploit chain indiscriminately. People who do this stuff for a living aren't stupid. If they can get the job done with something far more pedestrian, they will.

bd139:
Yeah hence the rubber hosing comment :)

It was found in the wild however so speculation is that it has raised attention. Wonder what the purpose is.

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