Bloatware and Spyware just for mouse and keyboard

[5U4GB]

What? at 400mb ram space? to control the dpi and a bunch of leds and a massive big bloated UI with everything spaced out.

Don't forget the fresh, multithreaded architecture. 

To read keypresses from a keyboard, which a 1MHz Z80 or 6502 could do without even knowing it was doing it.

[SiliconWizard]

Yes, but it required reasonably skilled engineers.
These days, you can build the software/firmware of a keyboard with just a bunch of large libraries stitched together.
Is the overall development cost lower? In the long run, not even so. But almost everybody thinks it's the case, so let them bloat up everything and live in a delusion until it blows up.

[tszaboo]

Actually you prompted me to look into this.
Windows key -> run-> msconfig
services tab
Stop LGHUB updater service

Hopefully I never have to see this again.

Oh great, it took logitech about a month for my mouse to not work correctly anymore.
It literally just reverted back in the settings after the software wasn't updated anymore for a while.

I think they already have all the software features in place to turn that computer mouse into that infamous subscription model. It's disgusting, I'm never buying anything from them again.

[abeyer]

strange... I have logitech trackballs on all my machines and have never run their software and it hasn't caused any problems.

There are a few things you can't do without it, but standard mouse functionality stays the same either way. I have exactly one old laptop with the software installed that  I only ever use if I need to pair a device with a different dongle than it shipped with... but outside that have never used the software.

[coppercone2]

yeah if vulcans show up there would be someone to tell us that they have gone mad with data and analytics. The applications of technology they are finding are off putting to say the least.

I always think back to moores law being applied to other things. Just because you can get more transistors in a digital circuit does not mean other technologies (or applications) will follow even close to the same curve. They literally have gullible customers that think 'all tech' can progress the same rate, and its ridiculous, you just get fake progress that is priced the same as real progress. The initial prices were based on the key thing, not the stupid addons. There is a core thing that is difficult to develop that is under the technology for most products. Even games, look at chess, it has been basically unchanged for 500 years because no one developed better mechanics yet. Video games kind of feel the same, they just dress up the same thing more fancy, and act like its new, but its not, because someone would have to invent a new thoughtful thing, not a generic improvement. Most of the new features are just self serving for the company (data) and do zero for the customer (who is hyped to hell thinking there are improvements when there are none). The big changes probably come from some guy that has been thinking about system dynamics for 50 years, not a corporate brain storm that says we need something for next quarter.

I had this problem at work, I finally got resources to handle a problem, and then I spent alot of time on that. I got asked many times if I need more resources and the answer is no, I need to solve the problem intelligently by using more time and learning more. I really knew that just throwing more stuff at it is gonna turn into a useless and confusing 'sprawl' that will implode. And it worked out OK, I got my stuff solved, and because I spent more time on fine tuning, I actually saw more interesting problems that show up. And things got defined properly. It was somewhat a boring struggle at times, but thats just how it has to be. Those boring parts needed to be developed and solved because they turn into massive weak points that can make a more complex thing fail and become too confusing and temperamental to troubleshoot because of all the unknowns.

[tszaboo]

strange... I have logitech trackballs on all my machines and have never run their software and it hasn't caused any problems.

There are a few things you can't do without it, but standard mouse functionality stays the same either way. I have exactly one old laptop with the software installed that  I only ever use if I need to pair a device with a different dongle than it shipped with... but outside that have never used the software.

I have also mouse from them that runs just fine without anything. I think it's only their G series and maybe the overhyped MX Master that requires this now.

[abeyer]

I have also mouse from them that runs just fine without anything. I think it's only their G series and maybe the overhyped MX Master that requires this now.

the MX Ergo does not, fwiw

[mkd]

Just a FYI, if you have a logitech mouse, you can replace G-Hub with onboard memory manager, assuming your mouse has onboard memory. Search "Logitech Onboard Memory Manager" and download it. Go to G-hub and find the "onboard memory" toggle, and turn it on. You can now install OMM, and uninstall G-hub. Go into OMM, and you can rebind buttons, set dpi, etc. without g-hub. Never needs to be updated, takes up barely any space, and doesn't need to run on startup. I have a G502X and G-hub just completely broke, said it was updating for around 4 hours. I also had issues with my rebound buttons not working. Switched to OMM and everything has worked perfectly for over a year.