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How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« on: February 12, 2020, 07:33:20 pm »
18 tabs on my Windows 10 machine with 128GB RAM and no swap file took 2.5GB RAM. How much RAM does your Chrome take, given your tab count?
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 09:23:18 pm »
3 out of 8 gigs total usage 1 tab windows 10 at school
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 09:49:14 pm »
Chrome Version 80.0.3987.100 (Official Build) (64-bit), Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), 8 GB RAM.
When first launched, one simple tab, under 200M among 11 processes, just eyeballing the numbers.

Adding more tabs starts more processes, the size of which depends on what the content is. Tab count by itself is pretty meaningless.

Probably should mention I use an adblocker as well, which may cut down a lot on the crap images.
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 03:09:01 am »
Firefox with 973 tabs open (not all loaded of course) currently using ~2.8 GiB on Windows 10.

I know this doesn't answer your question directly, but thought it might be a useful additional datapoint. Firefox's process architecture makes it memory-efficient. I also use uBlock Origin which radically cuts processor usage and probably memory as well.
 
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 10:57:46 pm »
Firefox with 973 tabs open (not all loaded of course) currently using ~2.8 GiB on Windows 10.

How do you find out how many tabs are open?  I did a search and did not find anything particularly suitable.

Never mind, I found something:  Firefox using 477 tabs, 19 windows, 3.5GB

Update: I set browser.tabs.remote.autostart to false so now it is just 2.2GB.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 03:05:09 pm by David Hess »
 
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 11:48:55 pm »
How do you find out how many tabs are open?

With browser.sessionstore.warnOnQuit=true, when you try to quit it prompts you to confirm that you really want to close n tabs. Of course I also have it set up to restore the previous session next time it starts.

Firefox using 477 tabs, 19 windows, 3.5GB

Impressive that you can keep track of them all!
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 03:52:01 am »
0 bytes, because I don't use Google's spyware. :P

IE taking around 240MB with 6 windows open.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 07:57:30 am »
Hmm, probably, 1.6GB, three tabs, one of which is a stream and one of which is a scrolled-down Reddit page that's probably going to slow to a crawl if I scroll much further.  (Reddit dynamically loads pages, so everything you've scrolled past is still in the DOM, but probably Chrome forces objects to free and garbage-collect to conserve a little memory -- and CPU use -- on such pages.  So, it starts to crawl eventually..)

IIRC -- Chrome conserves memory much more carefully on memory-constrained systems.  It's simply the space-time tradeoff of computing.  They use more RAM when it's available, to improve performance -- unloading fewer objects, using fewer swaps, etc.

So you'll get different answers from everyone, and numbers that don't scale in any meaningful way at all with the number of tabs.

Memory isn't a one-time resource.  If you still have say 50% RAM open, and you never even use that, what does it really matter?  Relax, you can use more than all of it.  You aren't losing data!

And that's not even considering the nitty-gritty of what the OS is doing -- Windows itself (and I imagine *nix does this too) uses ""free"" RAM as cache.  That's why you can start an application once at boot, and it takes a little while to start, but subsequent startups go faster (if the cached data hasn't been overwritten by something else, which you can force by using enough RAM inbetween).

There isn't much importance on RAM usage these days, as long as things manage their use, which these examples do.

I mean, ever since paging was introduced it's (figuratively, but in some cases literally) never been a hard limit, only a performance hit, and a hard limit only on specific configurations, which are discouraged anyway (i.e. disabling swap).  It was pretty terrifically slow in the early days of course, but it's much less painful with SSDs prevalent now.  Paging is an additional time cost over handling everything in RAM directly, but if the average case is programs and data being cached in otherwise-unallocated RAM, anything that purges that RAM (forcing an HDD fetch on the next access), does precisely the same thing.  It's psychology at this point: one seems like a punishment (goes slower when RAM runs out) while the other seems like a happy bonus (goes faster when more RAM is free).  But they're semantically and functionally the same thing!

And speaking of psychology, I mean, if you're complaining about RAM usage, but you're also using dozens, or thousands of tabs... well... y'know?  (Insert "that's none of my business Kermit" meme. :P )

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2020, 07:52:50 am »
I mean, ever since paging was introduced it's (figuratively, but in some cases literally) never been a hard limit, only a performance hit, and a hard limit only on specific configurations, which are discouraged anyway (i.e. disabling swap).
None of my machines that has 32GB or more physical memory have any swap space (except the Hackintosh with 32GB RAM which can not have its swap disabled.)
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 10:56:10 am »
I just put 32GB in because chrome was complaining with 16GB. I probably had 10-15 tabs open. i tried Firefox but it is a joke as it keeps crashing.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 10:59:58 am »
0 bytes, because I don't use Google's spyware. :P

IE taking around 240MB with 6 windows open.

I did a GCHQ approved security course for work and the recommended Firefox or Chrome. They did not advise against IE but they did not recommend it. What makes you think that IE "spies" on you less than Chrome?
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 01:23:30 pm »
it keeps crashing.

Did you have Firefox installed on that computer before ... maybe a few years ago? Bizarre things can happen if you start using an old profile with a vastly newer version of the browser ... and uninstalling does not delete the profile, as it's user data. Simply resolved by creating a new profile.

The browser shouldn't crash ... ever.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 03:37:46 pm »
Yeah, I've been using nothing but Pale Moon/Firefox for over 10 years and a crash is very rare. Kind of surprising how rare actually, considering how much I abuse about:config
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 04:39:10 pm »
it keeps crashing.

Did you have Firefox installed on that computer before ... maybe a few years ago? Bizarre things can happen if you start using an old profile with a vastly newer version of the browser ... and uninstalling does not delete the profile, as it's user data. Simply resolved by creating a new profile.

The browser shouldn't crash ... ever.

First time used on this machine. also on my little tablet computer where it had been used before and i allowed it to "clean up my stuff" as it did detect old stuff I was not great using 20% of graphics to run a radio player which is absurd and not what Chrome does. I originally stopped using it because of constant crashes. It's a joke i am afraid.

 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2020, 04:26:00 am »
How do you figure out the total memory consumption?On my Mac, I've got about 1G in the main "Google Chrome" Process, and an additional ~100 "Google Chrome Helper" processes, ranging from ~10MB to 400MB each...
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2020, 07:21:56 am »
How do you figure out the total memory consumption?On my Mac, I've got about 1G in the main "Google Chrome" Process, and an additional ~100 "Google Chrome Helper" processes, ranging from ~10MB to 400MB each...
On Windows 10, Windows Task Manager would group processes of the same program together and show the sum of all processes in the group. For UNIX, I think htop has a similar feature...?

What makes you think that IE "spies" on you less than Chrome?
I'd say Chromium (the browser Chrome is based on) and Firefox has the least spying as those are fully open source, allowing you can audit the code and patch out pieces you don't find necessary. As of not recommending IE, it is probably because of its terrible standards compatibility.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2020, 08:53:25 am »
Internet Explorer is abandonware in terms of development, even if IE11 is still technically supported (older versions aren't). Even Microsoft recommends moving away from IE except for legacy purposes.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2020, 08:54:01 am »
The only thing most people use IE or it's new incarnation for is to download a real browser.....

Can you get chromium on windows? I had been looking but all I found was a site that I am not sure if it is legit.
 
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2020, 11:52:12 am »
The only thing most people use IE or it's new incarnation for is to download a real browser.....

Can you get chromium on windows? I had been looking but all I found was a site that I am not sure if it is legit.

You can get 'Chromium' from their valid '.org' site...
https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium

However, in general, 'Chromium' is just the 'Engine' that numerous browsers now are based on.
Such as 'Chrome' itself, and 'Opera' browser, 'Avast' Secure Browser etc etc. Although the various
front-ends are mainly set up for many varied access/control/variations of security, looks & settings.
I now personally choose 'Avast Secure Browser', now available for free as a stand-alone product.
(Even better than Firefox for functionality, security, footprint etc.)
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2020, 01:18:20 pm »
Anything offered for windows is claimed to be potentially unstable.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2020, 02:01:13 pm »
How do you find out how many tabs are open?  I did a search and did not find anything particularly suitable.

Never mind, I found something:  Firefox using 477 tabs, 19 windows, 3.5GB
Please also post the solution if you answer your own question.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2020, 02:27:37 pm »
I did a GCHQ approved security course for work and the recommended Firefox or Chrome. They did not advise against IE but they did not recommend it. What makes you think that IE "spies" on you less than Chrome?
It's hard to be worse than Chrome at this point. Sendings URLs back, checking your downloads and more. It's all in the name of your security but at this point what you are doing is tracked in worrying detail. Protonmail advises Firefox or others for this reason. Geoffrey Fowler from the Washington post looks into these things regularly and now calls Chrome "surveillance software". Google lives from tracking and profiling you so expecting anything else seems folly.

https://protonmail.com/blog/best-browser-for-privacy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/21/google-chrome-has-become-surveillance-software-its-time-switch/
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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2020, 02:39:42 pm »
well it depends on if they are logging that information against your account. At the end of the day they can profile me all they like and sell that to companies who will just waste their money as they won't get me to buy a thing that I do not want.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2020, 02:41:17 pm »
Ironically to read the washington post without paying i have to:

You consent to the use of cookies and tracking by us and third parties to provide you with personalized ads

The very thing the article I am about to read is warning me about.
 

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Re: How much memory do Chrome take on your computer?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2020, 02:46:21 pm »
well it depends on if they are logging that information against your account. At the end of the day they can profile me all they like and sell that to companies who will just waste their money as they won't get me to buy a thing that I do not want.
Thinking it's about just ads would be a rather naive take on things. Thinking you're not influenced by ads and algorithms too, but that's another discussion.
 


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