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Offline Lord of nothingTopic starter

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Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« on: December 04, 2020, 07:56:28 pm »
Hi
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I bought an SSD who is 100% W7 compatible and the hole System to.
Currently its run on an HDD because I need that Pc working... So it should run on the internal SSD.
I try everything to get the Setup working. There is a Win Update (sry I dont know that therm now) who install some kind of Driver or what ever to make it possible to access that internal SSD with my W7 on the HDD. I try many thinks like add all driver to the Install Flash drive -> nada, with Nlite I add the Win Update who makes my SSD show up in the current Installation -> nada.

So what elese should I try to get a fresh install of W7 on that %)%)="$=&%"/& SSD?
My Laptop have an internal SSD to and run W7! So why not my Pc to?  :-//
Are there some additional Driver or what ever I could try to integrate into the Flash Drive to get them run?
Sorry it make me very angry that I could not get it run.  :rant:
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2020, 09:24:26 pm »
Would be useful if you told us the Motherboard and BIOS versions because some don't play nicely with NVME and just won't boot from them
 
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2020, 09:45:31 pm »
The mainboard must support NVMe by native. Older boards often missing this. This issue is addressed to the BIOS. UEFI-Board are able to handle NVMe at Boot time. Windows 7 does'nt know anything about silicon drives like SSD or NVMe. If the drive is handled like a regular magnetic harddrive, this will be damaged in a shot time.
The situation is very complicated because NVMe tech is very jung aged and Windows 7 is quite old, not supported and end-of-live. It's not you wanna read about, but it's, how it is.
 
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2020, 10:08:02 pm »
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Would be useful if you told us the Motherboard and BIOS versions because some don't play nicely with NVME and just won't boot from them
Its a shuttle Pc and I dont know what Mobo the got. And Yes I use the current version of there Bios.

The drive show up in Win7 who run on the HDD. So why not in the Boot USB Drive?
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2020, 10:27:46 pm »
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Would be useful if you told us the Motherboard and BIOS versions because some don't play nicely with NVME and just won't boot from them
Its a shuttle Pc and I dont know what Mobo the got. And Yes I use the current version of there Bios.

The drive show up in Win7 who run on the HDD. So why not in the Boot USB Drive?

because there's no boot support in the BIOS for it, it's not uncommon.

You may be able to add it, depends what BIOS/Motherboard you have.

For instance:
https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html
 
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2020, 11:03:26 pm »
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Would be useful if you told us the Motherboard and BIOS versions because some don't play nicely with NVME and just won't boot from them
Its a shuttle Pc and I dont know what Mobo the got. And Yes I use the current version of there Bios.

The drive show up in Win7 who run on the HDD. So why not in the Boot USB Drive?

because there's no boot support in the BIOS for it, it's not uncommon.

You may be able to add it, depends what BIOS/Motherboard you have.

For instance:
https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html
Not necessarily. If windows installer did not load the proper driver, it will not show up.
What drive are you using and what driver you integrated? Did you try to load the driver from USB flash or other storage during install?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2020, 11:05:43 pm by wraper »
 
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2020, 07:59:39 am »
Not necessarily. If windows installer did not load the proper driver, it will not show up.
What drive are you using and what driver you integrated? Did you try to load the driver from USB flash or other storage during install?

A windows driver won't help if you want to boot off the NVME device though
 

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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2020, 02:51:56 pm »
Not necessarily. If windows installer did not load the proper driver, it will not show up.
What drive are you using and what driver you integrated? Did you try to load the driver from USB flash or other storage during install?

A windows driver won't help if you want to boot off the NVME device though
I'm not convinced there there is no boot support based on information presented, Win 7 installer needs the right NVMe driver to see the drive regardless. You also could try installing Win 10, can download it for free, no key needed to try it. Then it will become clear if this MOBO can boot from NVMe. Also it's not like there is no way around if there is no NVMe boot support, you could simply stick a small USB flash drive on the back of computer, which then will be used to start booting, or start booting from another drive. Also just any random NVMe driver will not work. Driver either needs to be for a particular drive model or Microsoft hotfix driver.

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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2020, 03:22:11 pm »
nada, with Nlite I add the Win Update who makes my SSD show up in the current Installation -> nada.
Update has no use for windows installer. It needs to be a bare driver selected manually during installation or properly integrated.
https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/thinkcentre_drivers/nvme_sop.pdf
https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/thinkcentre_drivers/nvme_sop_20170419.7z
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 06:21:06 pm »
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Re: Install W7 on an MVMe SSD?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2020, 08:36:42 pm »
There are links on the right hand side.  They have very good support!!  Hard to see these days.  I click the link for the spec.

It says:

The M.2 2280 M slot provides the following interfaces:-
PCI-Express v2.0 X4-SATA v3.0 (6 Gbps)
It supports M.2 cards with a width of 22 mm and a length of 42, 60 or 80 mm (type 2242, 2260, 2280) and
M.2 SSDs with SATA or PCIe interface.

So, your NVMe is supported.

There is another link that say Windows 7 Installation.

You can use the instruction as a reference to see if you can boot from the NVMe SSD?
 


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