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iPhone wechat APP stuck trying to update
soldar:
--- Quote from: drussell on October 09, 2019, 11:17:25 pm ---They only support iPhone 6.1 and higher (5S and newer.)
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Do you believe my 4S has any residual value that I could realize? I hate to put it into a box, to be in the way for years to come.
--- Quote from: drussell on October 09, 2019, 11:17:25 pm --- Just don't crack the screen on that Edge model and expect to replace it for a reasonable price like the $30 iPhone screens. Those silly curved assemblies are like $200! :)
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You know, I kinda noticed the curved sides last night but I thought I was tired and just went to sleep. Now that you mention it, it is neat.
Having spent long time on boats I am used to securing on a lanyard anything that could get away and fall in the water, like keys and phones. The iPhone 4S has such a lanyard and I will need to see how I do it for the Samsung.
I will probably open a new thread on the topic of Samsung Galaxy S7 and Android. Ugh! I hate having to start all over again with new phone and OS.
drussell:
--- Quote from: soldar on October 10, 2019, 07:36:36 am ---Do you believe my 4S has any residual value that I could realize? I hate to put it into a box, to be in the way for years to come.
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I use that 4 for things like on-site remote control of control4 home automation systems, bar/restaurant video switching systems, etc. where you need an Android/iOS app to control them. Since I don't normally carry a smartphone for phone use, when I'm working on something like that for someone, I'll usually take that iPhone 4 with me because it is tiny and convenient, etc.
There is always something you can do with a physically tiny little portable computer with wireless networking ability. :) You just have to run into a use for it. Many people use an old phone essentially as an iPod but we technically minded people should be able to be a tad bit more creative. :)
--- Quote ---You know, I kinda noticed the curved sides last night but I thought I was tired and just went to sleep. Now that you mention it, it is neat.
Having spent long time on boats I am used to securing on a lanyard anything that could get away and fall in the water, like keys and phones. The iPhone 4S has such a lanyard and I will need to see how I do it for the Samsung.
I will probably open a new thread on the topic of Samsung Galaxy S7 and Android. Ugh! I hate having to start all over again with new phone and OS.
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I don't think there is any provision for a lanyard on most modern phones. (My good ol' Nokia 5300 has a loop for that.) I think it fell the way of other convenience factors that are only used by a small minority of users in favor of "sleek" design over functionality.
Note that the Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge are different phones. The former has a standard, flat, more reasonably priced screen. The latter has that gimmicky wrap-around display that breaks if you look at the edge of a table the wrong way. The only time it is somewhat neat is that you can see the time or a message indication on the side of the phone while it is in one of those book-cover type protector cases that is in the closed position, so you can still see one edge. The problem is that one of those cases is pretty much mandatory for those phones because the screen edges are so fragile.
Unless you are very careful and gentle with your phones, I highly suggest you use one of those cases. Sometimes it will only be the outer touch glass that breaks (which is reasonably affordable) but separating it from the uber-expensive curved LCD is almost impossible compared to replacing just the outer digitizer glass on most phones.
Just be careful of that screen! :) Included in my parts order yesterday was an new replacement complete front screen assembly, including the digitizer and LCD screen, already pre-mounted to a new frame for an iPhone 6S yesterday. $22... CANADIAN, including shipping from here in Canada. Doesn't even have to take the slow-boat from China.
You will NOT be able to replace that S7 Edge screen for $22, so treat it nicely and you'll probably enjoy the phone once you get used to Android instead of iOS. It is much more flexible and capable, but does lack some of the polish that iOS has.
rrinker:
As the 4S is the oldest phone that got iOS9, that's probably why it was excluded. The oldest phone on a given release's compatibility chart is mostly there so people stop complaining about their otherwise perfectly good 5 year old device not working, ie, it will run the latest operating system, but barely, and usually with some limitations and some features not available. Plus many carriers, at least in the US, continue to sell the older models as the 'budget' option, but of course obsoleted that much sooner.
I keep my device, usually as long as practical. I don't run out and get the latest one every year, frankly that's an idiotic waste of money and I have better things to waste my money on. When I do get one, I get the model prior to the latest and greatest, and then hang on to it. I skipped many - I had a 5S that only just recently started showing signs of a battery going bad and not holding a charge like it used to, back at the beginning of the year. So I upgraded to an 8.
drussell:
--- Quote from: rrinker on October 10, 2019, 03:08:37 pm --- As the 4S is the oldest phone that got iOS9, that's probably why it was excluded.
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The 4S, 5 and 5C aren't exactly underpowered for running a chat app.
Something else is afoot on that one.
--- Quote ---The oldest phone on a given release's compatibility chart is mostly there so people stop complaining about their otherwise perfectly good 5 year old device not working, ie, it will run the latest operating system, but barely, and usually with some limitations and some features not available. Plus many carriers, at least in the US, continue to sell the older models as the 'budget' option, but of course obsoleted that much sooner.
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Yeah, but that is more Apple's game, trying to get you to buy more hardware. It doesn't explain wechat blocking those models. Apple still supports things back to 9 on the software side, so for an app to explicitly exclude these models, it must be some capability on the phone that they want to use. For a chat app, the only possible thing that I can think they could be requiring is some sort of spying/tracking ability, as I've said before. Whether this is a China-induced thing or not would be pure speculation, but they do pretty much require Chinese companies to comply with the state surveillance apparatus. If anyone else has an idea why a messaging app would need specific hardware capabilities not found until the 5S, I'm all ears.
--- Quote ---I keep my device, usually as long as practical. I don't run out and get the latest one every year, frankly that's an idiotic waste of money and I have better things to waste my money on. When I do get one, I get the model prior to the latest and greatest, and then hang on to it. I skipped many - I had a 5S that only just recently started showing signs of a battery going bad and not holding a charge like it used to, back at the beginning of the year. So I upgraded to an 8.
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Indeed.
As an aside, you do know you can replace the battery in that 5S for under $10, right?
I get decent quality batteries within 2-3 days for those for $9 Canadian, shipped. Insane.
rrinker:
It's not that a 4S is underpowered for a chat app, it's that a 4S is underpowered to run the OS version needed because the chat app developers decided to support only a newer OS. Pretty sure WeChat works on the 5, 5S and 5C, and that's likely because of something in iOS9 that the 4S can't do (perhaps an artificial limitation, in that the 4S COULD handle those features, just slowly).
You can say that about pretty much any app on any platform, apart from specialized computer or image processing apps, just how big dos an email program need to be? How much system resources should a word processor actually us, considering that 99% of the time it should be just sitting there waiting for you to type something. Heck you can say the same thing about the OS itself. But hey, even a basic machine has multiple CPU cores and multiple GB of RAM, so bloat away.
Maybe it's to implement some tracking, maybe it's just some features they just had to add in there to keep the app 'fresh' even though it does nothign to enhance the actual functiona, namely to be ablt to chat with other users. Good luck getting any answers to that.
Yes, I know I can just replace the battery in the 5S. It's a backup plan, although since the 5S can't do iOS13, it's more or less already orphaned. I actually have all my phones, except the 4S - I gave that to a friend to needed a phone, when I got the 5S. And within a week, my completely unscratched 4S had a smashed screen - I do not know what women do to phones. My GF went through TWO Samsungs in a year - the first, she dropped getting out of her car and didn't even realize she didn't have her phone with her until the next morning when leaving for work and something crunched under her tires. The second, she had stuffed in the built-in storage area most women have, and then walked into a pool - not pushed, not thrown in, didn't fall in, walked into a pool and didn't remember she had it in there until completely underwater. I made her get the toughened 'Active' model as a replacement so it's waterproof and less likely to be drop damaged. I actually pulled out my old 3G and charged it up, connected to my wifi and I was able to open web pages. No, the ancient UI did NOT look better than the new ones. Pretty crude looking, by today's standards. But it still worked.Lost the chargers for the two Palm-basd smartphones I had before getting an iPhone, I'll have to look up the specs and make a cable so I can charge them from my lab power supply and see if they still work (or if I can remember how to use them - the one has a keyboard, physical like a Blackberry, but the older one uses Graffiti character recognition.
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