Reddit broken by wokeness? Really!

[coppice]

Yes, wokeism sometimes takes things much too far but looking for an alternative to master/slave just seems like common sense to me. If you don't understand "slave" might conjur up painfull and unnecessary conotations for a lot of people then perhaps you're just, well, a dick.

I notice lots of people whining about the use of accurate terms, but not many fighting against the actual scourge of slavery in the world today. I doubt many who whine have experienced slavery. Modern slaves don't usually manage to escape and get to lead the kind of life where they would be reminded by these terms in technical applications. If you ask a large group who of them probably have slaves in their family tree, and some don't put up their hands, they need to read a history book. If you ask the same group who of them probably have slave owners in their family tree, and some don't put up their hands, they need to read a history book. It has been that pervasive through history. Perhaps the coastal people of Europe should demand reparations from Africa for the huge number of Europeans grabbed from isolated coastal towns by African slavers, and sold into markets, mostly in North Africa.

[mendip_discovery]

I thought master, slave etc has been phased out years ago.

[magic]

I always thought that "slave" terminology is kinda silly, but "master" makes sense in things like "master keys" or the "master branch" in git. There are no corresponding "slave keys" or "slave branches", thankfully.

Americans are nuts, nothing new

[coppercone2]

I think sub reddits have corporate paid mods with guide lines how to keep it "clean" from differing opinions. Like the ones about a movie,game or product (that are specific to a particular device, series or company)

I think its the corporate response to something like being given bad ratings on rotten tomatoes


the 'reddit mod' meme is interesting but I really think there is money involved.


Companies are getting wise to eco systems and I did see some.. .kinda sad attempts at making internal social media for companies (but its like brown nose central). Starting a company backed reddit page seems logical.


I noticed very peculiar behavior from mods on reddit when I wrote my opinion on a series remaster. Naturally there are huge fans of the old and new series if you follow the whole ecosystem. This place looked like a propaganda center for the new version designed to influence reviewers.

[EEVblog]

I thought master, slave etc has been phased out years ago.

They tried to do it with hardware:
https://blog.adafruit.com/2021/06/03/mosi-miso-and-140-years-of-wrong-make/

[SiliconWizard]

Yeah, 1984, all that. Make words disappear so the idea behind the word will disappear as well. Sure. Anyway, where's the popcorn?

[anonymousEE]

It's like twitter except for the fact that there's moderators who can not only ban you from groups but also get you banned from all of reddit by reporting you.  At least on twitter you can give your opinion without consequences.

[Infraviolet]

I'd say in all honesty that in many of their technical contexts "master" and "slave" are 100% appropriate. Being a slave is not a pleasant thing at all, for humans. And being a slave is not an easy thing for communicating devices either. When you get the blame for crashing the whole bus because you were too late by 10s of nanoseconds to respond to the every whim of your master, how can you not consider yourself a slave. Especially if you get given a nasty round of toggling on your reset pin for doing so.

[brucehoult]

It's like twitter except for the fact that there's moderators who can not only ban you from groups but also get you banned from all of reddit by reporting you.  At least on twitter you can give your opinion without consequences.

On Twitter only people who choose to follow you see your opinions, they are not foisted on everyone reading a sub/forum on a possibly unrelated topic.

I don't understand why people are so down on Reddit in general, rather than on specific subreddits. Just like Aliexpress, Reddit provide infrastructure but each subreddit (like each Aliexpress store) is run by the rando people who created it. Some moderators do a good job and some don't.

I'm a co-moderator (since 2019) of /r/riscv. When Chris invited me to help him it was just hitting 2500 members, this coming week it's likely to hit 20,000 members. It actually requires very little moderation, most people are well-behaved, and actually we manually approve far more posts and comments that get smitten by a bot than we nuke things. So far we haven't had to ban anyone.

On the other hand, some of the less technical more social or political subs are a nightmare. And some of them have millions of members.

Eevblog forum looks to have around 70,000 members, but the vast majority are inactive. I see the same names all the time, in every topic. I'm roughly the 100th most active poster, and there are about 300 more (400 total) in "Super Contributor" (1000+ comments). By the time you get to #1000 you have people with fewer than 100 comments, at #10000 it's 20 comments, and at #20000 it's 7 comments.

So eevblog forum is about three times bigger than /r/riscv by members (maybe 5x by posts and comments each day), but compared to many Reddit subs it's tiny, close-knit, and mostly self-policing.

[magic]

Twitter also bans for wrongthink, so not sure who thinks it's better and why.

I don't understand why people are so down on Reddit in general, rather than on specific subreddits. Just like Aliexpress, Reddit provide infrastructure but each subreddit (like each Aliexpress store) is run by the rando people who created it. Some moderators do a good job and some don't.

I'm a co-moderator (since 2019) of /r/riscv. When Chris invited me to help him it was just hitting 2500 members, this coming week it's likely to hit 20,000 members.

Maybe because there is too many stupid subreddits and too many stupid users And regarding reddit itself, wokeness and censorship, they are also known to ban whole subs on sometimes less and sometimes more questionable grounds.

There are exceptions among small, technical-oriented subs like for example r/DataHoarder, which I found to be useful several times when looking for unpublished information about disks, but for most of the time when I find myself on reddit it's nonsense and waste of time. I usually get there form search or links, as I'm not a regular reddit user myself.

Your comparison with AliExpress is quite apt, actually

And then there is the whole matter of

On the other hand, some of the less technical more social or political subs are a nightmare. And some of them have millions of members.

and, allegedly, numerous members who have nothing better to do with their time then weaseling into moderation of aforementioned type of subs to fight with users and police what can or cannot be posted - something I see actual reddit users complaining about.

[John B]

There's a new browser in the works which is a completely new project that gives an alternative to the Firefox based, Chrome/Chromium based browser ecosystem. It's called the Ladybird browser.

It recently gained some attention lately. It seems the lead developer wishes to keep the project a technical exercise and free of ideological influence, and so naturally it was subsequently attacked by woke weirdos who went on a truffle pig deep dive expedition to find the following heretical charges:

Transphobia: Not wanting to adopt nouveau pronouns in the documentation.

Support of slavery: Still using the term "master" in the code and documentation.

"Misoginy": Who even knows, but woke women can't go 5 seconds without tagging onto something to also feel like a victim.

Thankfully it seems like the developer is somewhat familiar with this game and hasn't capitulated like people normally do. I think more and more people are catching onto the notion that wokeness is a fascistic, imperialistic and colonial ideology. Or a political form of herpes, whatever you prefer.

Vid related:

[brucehoult]

Thankfully it seems like the developer is somewhat familiar with this game and hasn't capitulated like people normally do.

Some other browser developers are also Brave...

[SiliconWizard]

Brave, Brave new world.

Methinks some people should find something fruitful to do. But, hey. Being a woke agent looks like a legit job these days, so whatever.

[John B]

I flip flop between Firefox and Brave browser on a daily basis, I think Brave is an overall sleeker, faster and more compatible experience. But Firefox is like those comfy old slippers.....

But with Brave being chromium based, I'm just keeping my options open as I'm waiting to see how this manifest v3 situation works out.

[magic]

Thankfully it seems like the developer is somewhat familiar with this game and hasn't capitulated like people normally do.

It's impossible not to be familiar if you are in software

For some reason, it has attracted a lot of those unhinged nerds and they are everywhere.

[SiliconWizard]

People just need a community and a cause. That brings them both.

[pcprogrammer]

For some reason, it has attracted a lot of those unhinged nerds and they are everywhere.

Nothing new. They can be found everywhere and in every field. Frank Zappa describes this perfectly in his song Flakes.



One might say that the human race is broken by wokeness, or at least a large part of it.