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Toshiba  vs wd blue

Toshiba P300 3.5" SATA III Desktop HDD/Hard Drive 7200rpm
8 (80%)
WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA 3 Desktop HDD/Hard Drive 7200rpm
2 (20%)

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Offline Halcyon

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2023, 11:06:38 am »
In the example I mentioned, the Sandisk SSDs are of crappy manufacture with non-fitting parts, where the solder points are subjected therefore to too much stress and break.
Austrian company Attingo discovered the root cause: https://www.attingo.at/ssd/sandisk/
https://www.zdnet.com/article/check-your-ssds-what-to-know-about-the-sandiskwestern-digital-data-loss-disaster/

In this example, I wouldn't be surprised if the manufacturer would have to remedy this under various country's consumer laws, but only IF the fault manifested itself in that way. It might never eventuate, depending on the use-case, temperature, humidity, duty cycle etc... etc...
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2023, 03:06:08 pm »
Totally correct- the fault might never go boom in case the SSDs get light use or low usage hours.

But: in my opinion, I prefer a manufacturer that shows some proactive action to these things, and does issue some recall or notice that product XY is affected within certain serial numbers- including free repair or exchange.

As an amateur photographer, I use Nikon for about 15 years now in the digital world, so I was aware of some rushed products into the market, whereas Nikon in the beginning (the dreaded D600 dirt spots, which basically were specks of oil) really tried to drag things out until they understood what the problem was, to newer incidents like the mirror issues with the D750- they published some bulletin with affected S/N and the stuff got free repair.
Still no textbook example of very good and proactive handling the case, but not that bad that you need a big lawsuit to get a manufacturer to recognize your customer rights.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2023, 03:29:09 pm »
But: in my opinion, I prefer a manufacturer that shows some proactive action to these things, and does issue some recall or notice that product XY is affected within certain serial numbers- including free repair or exchange.
They have SN checker one their website to see if FW is affected and update is needed. As of some claims about it being HW issue and WD saying it's FW, it's not all that certain. As of that data recovery company, they made claims they know what it is but did not say what exactly.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2023, 04:13:22 pm »
In the example I mentioned, the Sandisk SSDs are of crappy manufacture with non-fitting parts, where the solder points are subjected therefore to too much stress and break.

To be fair we should mention that a specific product family is affected by that issue, not all their SSDs. For example, the inexpensive and low-performance SSD Plus is quite reliable so far.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2023, 04:25:38 pm »
please let me know your experience on both wd blue vs Toshiba i very intrested in lifespan and reliability

The most important detail is missing, the type of usage. For a bog-standard PC (office, web, etc.) both are fine. If you do anything beyond that go for a WD Black or a SSD. When running the PC 24/7 WD Re/Gold or SSD.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2023, 05:05:41 pm »
intrested in purchasing new hdd and stuck between these 2 (please note not interested in seagate or ssd) Toshiba P300 3.5" SATA III Desktop HDD/Hard Drive 7200rpm or WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA 3 Desktop HDD/Hard Drive 7200rpm
please let me know your experience on both wd blue vs Toshiba i very intrested in lifespan and reliability
The places where you will find meaningful statistics about drive reliability, like https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2023/ , are all based on data centre usage. So, for a NAS they are probably valuable. What about a desktop PC? Will all the turning on and off result in a completely different failure pattern? Who knows. I don't think there are statistics out there that give any much of clue about that.

As for brand vs brand, Seagate seems to have been weaker than the others over the long haul, but every disk drive maker has produced stinkers. So, when looking at information try to find a good specific model that is still current. This is not too hard to do, as the rate of model replacement has slowed, and many of the models shown on the web page I just referenced can still be found in stores.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2024, 03:48:32 pm »
Why no Seagate?
Seagate EXO line seems to be pretty good, TDMR heads, 2.5million MTBF, 256MB cache, filled with helium...

Havinng to choose between these two, I'd go with WD.

For mechanical (slow storage) disks, i have preferred Toshiba or HGST for a loong time.
In 7 years working in repairing computers all day, I replaced so much more Toshibas/HGST (They're the same thing) than seagate or wd, but could simply be that those were more commonly used.
My ancient Seagate 40, 80 and 160GB HDDs were ok when replaced by the now 12-year old 2TB WD green, no issues either.

why not?i work in electronic store what sells all kind stuff.80% all costumer returns what are returned for warranty are from seagate.i wesstren digital and thosiba hdd are rare.
avoid seagate at all costs,if ur data is dear for you.
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2024, 01:13:21 am »
I wouldn't personally use any SMR drives either.

PMR 4ever  8)

All (?) SMR drives use PMR technology.

SMR and CMR refer to the way that tracks are recorded, either shingled or conventional (non-overlapping).

PMR (perpendicular) refers to the way that bits are recorded.

Apples and oranges ...
 

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Re: Toshiba VS WD Blue
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2024, 02:15:45 am »
I'm trying to understand why you're considering HDDs for that small size. Is there an almost continuous stream of intensive writes? Even then, there are high endurance SSDs specifically designed to last for such uses.
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