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Why use cloud? when 10TB plus are easy to optain & cheap
Labrat101:
Hi ,
I might be getting old and out of touch .
I just can't get my head round what's so great about Cloud .
First I look at when using a cloud server . The server could be anywhere on the planet . If that company goes down.
due to power natural disaster etc where is my Data ??.
My son just set up a 100TB storage in his lab . Its really small and just sits on a shelf . it has direct connection to the internet
so he can access it from anywhere . It has its own UPS . But if the internet goes down or some other freak of nature we know were our Data is ..physically located .
Were as Cloud you have to install drivers setup and if its paid for system and one forgets to pay or password problem .
They can just say sorry we deleted it . or our tech screwed up . Ok there is a contract .
Some how I don't feel safe not knowing where it is . physically
I guess most people may never fill a 10 or 20TB even with all the videos ,family photo's etc.
SilverSolder:
I guess having an off-site backup is one benefit of using cloud tech. Just don't overpay for it...
Labrat101:
We defiantly didn't over pay .
The other thing that also worries me is that there are a lot of Cloud services offering FREE
5TB storage quite large for the average user . But how can these server farms that must have quite a high maintenance running cost . have millions of Free loaders . They are for sure making money . Which starts to make me think are they using this Data . Big Brother thing.
They say they are secure . From whom . The CIA and other Org's etc have access to what ever they want .
Photo's etc can be used for face recondition if there are names on your photo's this can then be added to the super large recondition data base that's already being used .
There has to be a catch to FREE. Paranoid Yes
mariush:
--- Quote from: Labrat101 on September 16, 2021, 02:49:23 pm ---Hi ,
I might be getting old and out of touch .
I just can't get my head round what's so great about Cloud .
First I look at when using a cloud server . The server could be anywhere on the planet . If that company goes down.
due to power natural disaster etc where is my Data ??.
My son just set up a 100TB storage in his lab . Its really small and just sits on a shelf . it has direct connection to the internet
so he can access it from anywhere . It has its own UPS . But if the internet goes down or some other freak of nature we know were our Data is ..physically located .
Were as Cloud you have to install drivers setup and if its paid for system and one forgets to pay or password problem .
They can just say sorry we deleted it . or our tech screwed up . Ok there is a contract .
Some how I don't feel safe not knowing where it is . physically
I guess most people may never fill a 10 or 20TB even with all the videos ,family photo's etc.
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The benefits about cloud are basically ... your data sits in a datacenter, somewhere. Some cloud providers would also provide CDN like services, basically your data is replicated in multiple datacenters around the world, and when someone requests one of your files it's served from a server in a datacenter that's physically closest to you.
For example, I'm in Romania with a 500 mbps download / 25 mbps upload internet connection.
I could download with 500 mbps from a server in a datacenter in UK or Netherlands or France, but maybe only 200-350 mbps from a server in US, and probably only 50-100 mbps from a server in Australia, because the Australian ISPs often have congested ocean fiber cables with Europe and other places, so they slow down individual transfers.
If you're managing a team of a few people, let's say one graphical designer, one website/game programmer, one sound artist, or video editor ... and they have to constantly sync up files and therefore download stuff, then a cloud service with CDN features may make sense.
--- Quote from: Labrat101 on September 16, 2021, 02:49:23 pm ---The other thing that also worries me is that there are a lot of Cloud services offering FREE
5TB storage quite large for the average user . But how can these server farms that must have quite a high maintenance running cost . have millions of Free loaders .
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Majority of users won't upload more than 1 TB or so. The few subscribers who pay a monthly fee make up for a big part of the costs, once they start paying they tend to keep paying, there's automatic renewals, difficulty of downloading everything or moving somewhere else, so they'd rather continue paying...
Storage is relatively cheap, we're at around $0.02 per GB ... services like Backblaze for example can afford to give unlimited backup for around 5$
Also, some cloud providers (Google for example) have to use servers for other things, and it's not a big deal for them to simply insert a bunch of hard drives in those servers and make better use of rack space so the datacenter space and bandwidth is more or less free because it's paid by other services
For example, the company offers a premium CDN (content delivery network) for which they have to rent capacity on fiber cables and pay a fixed monthly fee for that bandwidth, for example 2$ per megabit for a 10gbps connection.... regardless how much data is transferred through that fiber... but if the capacity is not used, they can shove the traffic of the cloud servers as "low priority" traffic, to better use what they pay for.
james_s:
I personally prefer not to use cloud for anything whenever I can avoid it, but there's a lot more to cloud that raw storage. I do see the appeal of letting someone else deal with all the day to day maintenance and security stuff, at least in theory someone is dealing with that stuff. Hosting at home is not free, it consumes electricity, physical space and bandwidth, and it is not completely maintenance free either. Also hard drives have been significantly more expensive lately between Covid related shortages and all the cryptocurrency morons.
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