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Offline MrMobodies

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Vivaldi browser
« on: April 27, 2020, 12:50:04 am »
Anyone use the Vivalvi browser before?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_%28web_browser%29

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Vivaldi is a freeware, cross-platform web browser developed by Vivaldi Technologies, a company founded by Opera Software co-founder and former CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner and Tatsuki Tomita. It was officially launched on April 6, 2016.[10][11]

Although intended for general users, it is first and foremost targeted towards technically-inclined users as well as former Opera users disgruntled by its transition from the Presto layout engine to a Chromium-based browser that resulted in the loss of many of its iconic features.[10][12] Despite also being Chromium-based, Vivaldi aims to revive the features of the Presto-based Opera with its own proprietary modifications.[13][14]

As of March 2019, Vivaldi has 1.2 million active monthly users.[15]

Vivaldi released a mobile (Android) beta version on September 6, 2019 and a regular release on April 22, 2020.[16][17]

I was looking at different browsers over the past couple of months.
Ampera pointed me to a Chrome Vanilla build without the chrome Google branding.
I tried that Edge browser based on Chrome which looks a little better, the history and settings don't have that big blue spammy bar stuck there.
I use Palemoon but limited extensions.

Now I found Vivaldi and I never heard of it before. This one seems to be based on Chrome and can use the extensions from there.

I find I can customize in the way that I want like with the Palemoon 2.8 and the Firefox from many years go. This has made my day. I spent some time changing the settings to suit me and there is even a CSS script to put tabs at the bottom under the bookmarks. It did take me while as I didn't like the defaults.



Edit: Updated picture with bookmarks at the top.

Also into setup I can specify "Portable" in a certain directory where it would put the program and profile.



More pictures:
https://imgur.com/a/zCBA4QW


https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/15834/tabs-on-bottom-for-1-8/23?lang=en-GB&page=2

Tabsonbottom.css
Code: [Select]
#tabs-container.bottom {
    order: -1;
    border-top: none;
    padding-top: var(--padding);
    padding-bottom: 0px !important;
}

/* bookmarks bar above tabs */
/*
.bookmark-bar {
    order: -2;
}
*/

.toolbar.toolbar-addressbar {
    order: -3;
}

/* corner rounding */
.tabs-bottom .tab-position .tab {
    border-top-left-radius: var(--radiusHalf);
    border-top-right-radius: var(--radiusHalf);
    border-bottom-left-radius: unset;
    border-bottom-right-radius: unset;
}

/* tab group indicators*/
.tabs-bottom .tab-strip .tab-group-indicator {
    bottom: 28px !important;
};

Bookmarksabovetab.css
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/* tabs below address bar */

#tabs-container.no-thumbs.bottom, #tabs-container.view-thumbs.bottom {
order: -1;
padding-top: 4px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
}
.bookmark-bar {
order: -2;
}
.toolbar.toolbar-addressbar {
order: -3;
}
.stacks-on.tabs-bottom .tab-strip .tab-group-indicator {
bottom: 28px;
}
.stacks-on.tabs-bottom .tab-strip .tab-group-indicator .tab-indicator.active {
padding-top: 2px;
}
« Last Edit: May 04, 2020, 06:59:11 pm by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2020, 07:06:29 am »
Yeah, I tried Vivaldi in the past. I think it was a spin off from Opera. It is a Chromium-based browser. It shows promise, but if I remember right, it did have a few niggles displaying some sites. It may have improved since then.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2020, 12:57:24 pm »
I've been using Vivaldi last 3-4 years, maybe even more. It gives you Chrome experience (including plugins) but without google. I also appreciate that it works in Linux and installs proprietary codecs upon the request. I was not able to achieve this with vanilla chromium. I suggest you go through the settings. There are neat features, for instance the in-built ad blocker. Every new computer, that I get, experiences the same after the first boot: Edge (Firefox)->download Vivaldi -> download BitWarden +uBlock origin -> download DoubleCommander   :-DD
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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2020, 02:07:43 pm »

I like Vivaldi, been using it since it came out.  It is made by many of the same people that used to make Opera before Opera became Chromium based,  and a lot of the features of the old Opera have made it into Vivaldi.

 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2020, 04:11:04 am »
I've been using Vivaldi for the last couple of years. I like it; it seems to have a bit more sanity than other major browsers.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2020, 10:46:48 am »
It shows promise, but if I remember right, it did have a few niggles displaying some sites. It may have improved since then.

They used to have their own user agent but they changed it to chrome because many websites "discriminate" the viavldi user agent. That fixed a lot of problems.
https://vivaldi.com/de/blog/user-agent-changes/
 
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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2020, 07:01:30 pm »
Does anyone know how long Vivaldi stores its cookies for?

Its deleted all my cookies twice in the last few months, which is really annoying. It never used to do this and I can't figure out why. It doesn't seem to have a setting for it.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2020, 07:08:34 pm »
Yeah, I tried Vivaldi in the past. I think it was a spin off from Opera. It is a Chromium-based browser. It shows promise, but if I remember right, it did have a few niggles displaying some sites. It may have improved since then.

Shouldn't you have said "annoyances of color" so as to not offend anyone?
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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2020, 07:37:41 pm »
@Steve: The expire-date usually is set by the cookie-issuer (the web-page). Some add-ons change the date. For example delete cookies on exit.

Changed to Vivaldi as the plug-in interface from Firefox changed and made some of the used plug-ins not working anymore. And the new interface prohibited the update of the plugins.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2020, 08:20:22 pm »
Does anyone know how long Vivaldi stores its cookies for?

Its deleted all my cookies twice in the last few months, which is really annoying. It never used to do this and I can't figure out why. It doesn't seem to have a setting for it.

You can set Vivaldi to delete cookies after every session.

How to find the settings:

Type Ctrl-F12
Type "Cookie" in the settings search box



You can quickly delete cookies like this:

Type Ctrl-Shift-Delete
Select what to delete, and go for it
Vivaldi remembers the settings so it is easy to do repeatedly
 
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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2020, 08:24:28 pm »
I see a few options not many but maybe you already checked there.
See pictures.

vivaldi://settings/content/cookies?search=cookies
« Last Edit: July 07, 2020, 08:27:10 pm by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2020, 12:16:32 am »
There's really no need to accept third party cookies. In my opinion they should always be disabled. I also set it so that all cookies are deleted on exit.
 
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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2020, 01:00:27 am »
I believe that was how I was being tracked.

Look at one product on Amazon, go to Ebay or some other site and it appears in the adverts.

The advert hosts must be the third party.

I don't like that behavior.
Now I have a different profile for sites that I use frequently.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2020, 01:24:26 am »
Third party cookies are one way that users are tracked. Turning them off will help. I don't know anything about Vivaldi. I will check if it can use uBlock Origin and NoScript. If so, I may give it a try.
 

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2020, 01:35:13 am »
There's really no need to accept third party cookies. In my opinion they should always be disabled.

I thought so too, but I discovered that some sites (I think my bank was one?) won't let you login without them.  They use some multi-domain stuff during the login process.

Instead I'm using an addon (FF) called "Cookie autodelete" that deletes cookies a few seconds after you close a tab, unless you whitelist the site.

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Re: Vivaldi browser
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2020, 01:51:48 am »
I believe that was how I was being tracked.

Look at one product on Amazon, go to Ebay or some other site and it appears in the adverts.

The advert hosts must be the third party.

I don't like that behavior.
Now I have a different profile for sites that I use frequently.

I've done the same thing - sandboxed each of the big sites separately.  That seems to be somewhat effective in stopping the stalking.
 


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