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Offline Ed.Kloonk

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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2021, 07:14:00 am »
Ask me 10 years ago would I be swapping to Linux from Windows, I would have laughed at you.

Well, you're laughing now.

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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2021, 11:12:59 am »
Linux is ok until they break it. Which happens vastly more often than Microsoft I find. I have a T495s Ryzen here for example which is on the Ubuntu officially supported hardware list. Since about three months ago the kernel dumps core when starting the desktop.

Bear in mind linux is actually really my job. I won’t touch it on the desktop. It’s fine in a VM but the moment you stick a desktop near it, there is a sharp descent into a cancerous mess.
Well, Linux is excellent exactly where Microsoft is trying to crap on everyone else: "old clunking hardware" in your own definition.

And no, in my particular case I will not replace my fully working "old clunking hardware" just to be in the good graces of MS since they can't figure out proper security on their own system without shenanigans such as forcing TPM and/or bitlocking your data. Pay me or you won't have your data anymore - ransomware much?

Apple could be a viable alternative if they didn't have worsened their hardware sensibly and broke compatibility with themselves so many times over the years that made me very weary of them. I still use a 2015 macbook pro (before the thunderbolt craze) and it still works quite well. If it were a Windows host, it would also have been dropped by MS.
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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2021, 08:27:18 am »
Here’s a new PC build. Just turn it on in the bios

 

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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2021, 09:05:59 am »
So insidious.
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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2021, 11:09:04 pm »
He doesn't sound very happy in the video.

I don't want to be forced to use secure boot or tpm if I decide I don't want to use it.

Hopefully I'll migrate to other stuff before 2029 when Windows 2019 Enterprise comes to an end.
 

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Re: Windows-11 ?? Forget it!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2021, 11:37:48 pm »
Next challenge: "can you get your Win 11 machine to boot in under five minutes?". Every ten seconds over means gulping down a Tequila shot.

Wow, I haven't had to wait this long for a machine to boot since I had a 386 running DOS 6.22 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11. The limitation there was the speed of the CPU and hard disk drive. It was the case of, turn the machine on and go grab a beverage or prepare a snack, when you came back it was booted.

I do have the the problem of slow reboots at work (which is very common because Windows 10 glitches out pretty often, requiring entire system restarts). We use fairly powerful $13k+ HP Workstations and if I restart the machine, the stupid Windows spinny dots sit there for a good 5 or 6 minutes. Buggered if I know what it's doing. The hard disk indicator barely flashes.

It's no secret that I now use Linux at home and love it. Linux is not without it's headaches, particularly when you're first starting out, but if you have good hardware and persist with learning something new, it's much less painful than dealing with Microsoft's garbage. Ask me 10 years ago would I be swapping to Linux from Windows, I would have laughed at you.


I switch the services off that I don't want running including the ones that won't stop and display that access denied/incorrect parameters message when attempting to stop and change the startup type. I take out the drive and remove task scheduler files in their folders for usocore tasks and set permission to deny on the "system" account access to it so it can't recreate the keys and set back the permission to deny access other account account such as the administrator... they go that far, and in the registry, it's "trusted installer" not "system" for the uso task scheduler, that recreates the keys. Also just set "type" in registry for the services in system hive to 16 (10). So usocore is 32, just change it from 16 to 10 to give 16 and then I find can change the startup type "in services and applications" from manual to disabled or whatever and start or stop the service without an access denied or incorrect parameter message after clicking okay.

I'd bet I won't be able to do any of that in Windows 11. They'd be restrictions that I once found on the GPT file system preventing me from delete certain Windows 10 files until I converted the disc to basic? and then I found I could and converted it back, I can't remember what tool I use whether it was diskpart but that was in 2019 before I discovered there was an enterprise edition with no feature upgrade or interference and I chose basic disk to make sure they are not locked in any way.

I remember in 2011 someone brought a new Dell computer, quad core, western digital black in there, 4gb ram right out the box and it was very very slow to do with lots of hard disk activity even on idle It turned out to be the search indexer as I have seen many times before. I stopped the service and disabled it and it took minutes to stop but after was lovely after that. I did turn it back on (for their Outlook plugging which they hadn't setup their emails yet) and removed everything in there except the plugin and it was fine after that and very quick.

How one service can be set to cause so much of trouble.

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