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Online jpanhaltTopic starter

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Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« on: December 24, 2024, 11:15:37 am »
Over the past few weeks, CHKDSK has run during boot twice, most recently this morning.  Unindexed files and corrupt attribute record errors are detected and fixed.  Most of my SSD's are Samsung V-NAND EVO or PRO.  I believe C-Drive is an 850 256GB with 167GB free.

Windows 7 Pro 32/64 was installed in about 2015 and has been reinstalled at least once since when I had a bad disk.  Acronis 2015 runs for backup.  Quite a while ago, I went to clone the C-drive and Acronis said that was a bad idea, so all I do is a backup.

What are your thoughts on cloning the C-drive to a new SSD, shutting down, and replacing the current C-drive with the new one?  In other words, I am not sure of the sequence to replace that drive without having to reload all of the software and emails.  When one clones, is the clone bootable and with the same drive identifier? 

 

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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2024, 11:44:46 am »
Look at the SMART Values with a program like Crystal Disk Info. I don't know if they still have a version that supports Windows 7 though.
Samsung also has their Magician software, that can also show SMART values. Again, no idea if that still works with Windows 7.
That will give you an indicator of the general health of the disk. A Samsung 850 is quite old, depending on your usage it is not inconceivable that you exhaused the flash cells.

I have no experience with Acronis, i use VEEAM Backup and Recovery to backup my disk to a NAS. Using a dedicated USB stick, i can use that backup to fully recover Windows.
A clone made "offline", so not from within Windows but rather for example a Linux live medium, should be bootable.
 
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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2024, 12:59:07 pm »
IIRC, Acronis' backup is a disk image. So you can restore the backup image to a new disk. Or you can boot the PC from the Acronis boot medium and clone the old disk directly to a new one.
 
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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2024, 05:52:41 am »
Are you getting unexpected or unclean shutdowns? Check Windows event log as to what the reason might be. It might not be a failing disk, rather something else is causing the system to be unstable.

But yes, also check SMART values as @Ranayna pointed out for signs of disk failure.
 
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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2024, 10:13:47 am »
While backing up C on the 24th one of the disks in my RAID 1  drive failed.   I had a spare and that problem was addressed.  I have ordered new SSDs and an external SSD from Amazon and they will be here tomorrow.

There have  been no problems shutting down that I have noticed.
 

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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2024, 06:27:15 pm »
I downloaded CrystalDiskInfo, crossed my fingers and installed it.  All of my drives except C are 99 to 100%  The C-drive is 93%.  I don't know whether that is high, low, or a warning.  On a physics test that might be high.  At Total Wines &  More that means the wine might be palatable.

Here's the full text:
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 (01) Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
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           Model : Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
        Firmware : EMT01B6Q
   Serial Number :
       Disk Size : 250.0 GB (8.4/137.4/250.0/----)
     Buffer Size : Unknown
     Queue Depth : 32
    # of Sectors : 488397168
   Rotation Rate : ---- (SSD)
       Interface : Serial ATA
   Major Version : ACS-2
   Minor Version : ATA8-ACS version 4c
   Transfer Mode : SATA/600 | SATA/600
  Power On Hours : 48337 hours
  Power On Count : 7825 count
     Host Writes : 27080 GB
Wear Level Count : 145
     Temperature : 26 C (78 F)
   Health Status : Good (93 %)
        Features : S.M.A.R.T., NCQ, TRIM, DevSleep, GPL
       APM Level : ----
       AAM Level : ----
    Drive Letter : C:\
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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2024, 07:02:44 pm »
I wonder if just writing to the drive to refresh everything would improve things.  So you would make an image from outside of Windows, then immediately restore it back to the same drive.  And I guess then do a TRIM.  All active sectors would be rewritten.  Or I guess written to new physical sectors because of wear leveling.  I dunno.  Just seems like it might refresh files that have been sitting in the same place for years - OS files and such.
 

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Re: Windows 7 C-Drive Failing?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2024, 07:17:24 pm »
Tomorrow I get my new drives.  I plan to make an image, confirm it was made, reinstall Windows 7 (That has some broken registry items and doesn't automatically close most 32-bit programs.), and see what happens.  My license is supposedly perpetual, but I have heard getting it registered/activated can be a problem.  If that's the case, I will reload the image and try to fix the registry problems.
 


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