Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown

[Fraser]

Allmost all E4 microbolometers, that have been tested, meet the 99.8% finctional pixel spec. The higher priced Ex series cameras may indeed have microbolometers that are selected for performance, but do not think the E4 has a sub-standard sensor fitted as this is not the case 

[edavid]

Why do we have to repeat the same discussion over and over again?

talking to me ?

Yes.

[tiagobaracho]

Why do we have to repeat the same discussion over and over again?

talking to me ?

Yes.

you have to understand... some of us like to came here once in while and read just few pages..... you guys that are always in this thread knows what have been spoken or not....
This is a problem that always will  happen in forums..... I will not read 260 pages before i post anything... does not make sense..... Its part of being a member of a forum..
And  I read a lot when i was doing the hack ...... but i didnt see any discussion on this subject....
This things happens in real life too.... people are together talking and someone arrives and ask again same thing someone already did.... So now we have to record our conversation and give the gay that arrived later the recorder so he can playback and then he can talk about thing not being repetitive ?
life is like that... its not a prison

[Arlo1]

Got mine...  Trying to do the Hack but I can't seem to get the command to run it...  So I click the start menu and search CMD the black screen comes up and I type "CRC01 E8.cfg" exactly and it says. CRC01 is not recognized as an internal or external command,

[tiagobaracho]

Got mine...  Trying to do the Hack but I can't seem to get the command to run it...  So I click the start menu and search CMD the black screen comes up and I type "CRC01 E8.cfg" exactly and it says. CRC01 is not recognized as an internal or external command,

you have to be on the same folder as the crc01 exe is on the command prompt too....

[martinv]

To install Taucher's menu hack:

1. Install the RNDIS drivers on your PC. (http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/other/flir_device_drivers.exe)
2. Turn on RNDIS on the camera via the hidden menu (Settings>Device Settings>Camera Information - Press <right> for 10 seconds, select "USB Mode" then select "RNDIS")
3. Connect camera to PC via USB.
4. FTP to camera (eg. with FileZilla): Normal logon type, Host "192.168.0.2", user name "flir", password "3vlig"
5. Make a back-up of the files on your camera (copy files from camera to your computer into a back-up directory of your choice)
6. Copy the ADDMENU-Beta files over the files in the camera (eg. unzip the files to your computer then copy the folder "FlashBFS" from your computer over the folder "FlashBFS" in the camera - overwrite files)
7. Power-down the camera, remove battery and USB cable.
8. Re-insert battery and turn on.
9. Enjoy! 

Re: menu hack: 
Issue 1:  I made it to step 5 (above).  I selected ALL the folders/files on the camera (to backup everything) and during the transfer there are about 139 failed transfers.  I tried this on 2 different computers with similar result. 

Issue 2:  The FlashBFS\system folder in the 'ADDMENU-BETA3' mod has 1 folder and 5 files, however the same folder in the camera has 9 folders and a lot of files.  I'm guessing this means overwrite the 1 folder and 5 files, but KEEP all other files in the cameras "FlashBFS" folder as is.

[Arlo1]

Got mine...  Trying to do the Hack but I can't seem to get the command to run it...  So I click the start menu and search CMD the black screen comes up and I type "CRC01 E8.cfg" exactly and it says. CRC01 is not recognized as an internal or external command,

you have to be on the same folder as the crc01 exe is on the command prompt too....

Ok I can't seem to figure out how to do that.
I'm using Windows 7 thanks.

[martinv]

Got mine...  Trying to do the Hack but I can't seem to get the command to run it...  So I click the start menu and search CMD the black screen comes up and I type "CRC01 E8.cfg" exactly and it says. CRC01 is not recognized as an internal or external command,

you have to be on the same folder as the crc01 exe is on the command prompt too....

Ok I can't seem to figure out how to do that.
I'm using Windows 7 thanks.

I think this is what you need to do:
in command prompt,

type:  cd/
press enter
type:  cd foldername/foldername2/etc     (replace foldername, foldername2, and etc with the file path you saved the CRC01 E8.cfg file to)
press enter
type:  CRC01 E8.cfg
press enter

[martinv]

Just got the menu mod Beta 3 to work!

The temperature scale lock or the dual max/min indicators are extremely useful.  The stock E8 doesn't even have this?

Just curious, were ALL of these extra features already in the unit waiting to be unlocked or did Taucher create some of these?
Very impressed either way.

[Taucher]

Just got the menu mod Beta 3 to work!

The temperature scale lock or the dual max/min indicators are extremely useful.  The stock E8 doesn't even have this?

Just curious, were ALL of these extra features already in the unit waiting to be unlocked or did Taucher create some of these?
Very impressed either way.

Existing dormant, just not enabled (.conf) and not reachable (menu XML) - so even an E8 can be "upgraded"

[Arlo1]

Thanks guys.  I got it.   Part number 63901-0101   software 1.19.8 serial number 63909959
This was the last one from Canadian Ghost hunters.  Only one I could find in stock in Canada.... Hoping for the 1.19.8 firmware.

[Fraser]

@Arlo1,

If the camera has not been sent back to FLIR for an upgrade in the last couple of weeks, it will be running Firmware 1.19.8 and will have been calibrated between 9 and 12 December 2013. See below from my collected data in the 'E4 Useful Information' thread.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

6390 9758              09 Dec            1.19.8 E4 V1.1
6391 01xx              12 Dec            1.19.8 E4 V1.1

[makisa81]

Hello,

Ordered mine 2/10/2014 from UK supplier
Calibration date: 2/5/2014 Estonia
Model: E4 1.1
Partial Serial:  639144xx
Software 1.19.8

Thanks for great hack! 

[Arlo1]

@Arlo1,

If the camera has not been sent back to FLIR for an upgrade in the last couple of weeks, it will be running Firmware 1.19.8 and will have been calibrated between 9 and 12 December 2013. See below from my collected data in the 'E4 Useful Information' thread.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

6390 9758              09 Dec            1.19.8 E4 V1.1
6391 01xx              12 Dec            1.19.8 E4 V1.1

Uhm...  Ok so it should say a calibration date?

[Fraser]

Calibration certificate is included with the cameras documents.

[OrBy]

Why do we have to repeat the same discussion over and over again?

talking to me ?

Yes.

you have to understand... some of us like to came here once in while and read just few pages..... you guys that are always in this thread knows what have been spoken or not....
This is a problem that always will  happen in forums..... I will not read 260 pages before i post anything... does not make sense..... Its part of being a member of a forum..
And  I read a lot when i was doing the hack ...... but i didnt see any discussion on this subject....
This things happens in real life too.... people are together talking and someone arrives and ask again same thing someone already did.... So now we have to record our conversation and give the gay that arrived later the recorder so he can playback and then he can talk about thing not being repetitive ?
life is like that... its not a prison

I feel like I being baited to feed the trolls but if I understand you correctly - your saying we should just delete all but the last two pages of the thread and dedicate all of our time replying to questions that have already been answered from memory just because you feel like your too important to spend some time reading, on a forum who's primary method of communication is text? Please pass along what ever your on because your living in a awesome little world there. 

[martinv]

Why do we have to repeat the same discussion over and over again?

talking to me ?

Yes.

you have to understand... some of us like to came here once in while and read just few pages..... you guys that are always in this thread knows what have been spoken or not....
This is a problem that always will  happen in forums..... I will not read 260 pages before i post anything... does not make sense..... Its part of being a member of a forum..
And  I read a lot when i was doing the hack ...... but i didnt see any discussion on this subject....
This things happens in real life too.... people are together talking and someone arrives and ask again same thing someone already did.... So now we have to record our conversation and give the gay that arrived later the recorder so he can playback and then he can talk about thing not being repetitive ?
life is like that... its not a prison

I feel like I being baited to feed the trolls but if I understand you correctly - your saying we should just delete all but the last two pages of the thread and dedicate all of our time replying to questions that have already been answered from memory just because you feel like your too important to spend some time reading, on a forum who's primary method of communication is text? Please pass along what ever your on because your living in a awesome little world there. 

I prefer to just help the guy(s) out that doesn't want to read the entire thread and be done with it.  Trying to get everyone to read the entire thread will never happen and we end up with even more clutter in our attempt to reduce it.  Maybe they don't deserve a easy answer and maybe we deserve a cookie for reading the whole thread, but in the end being positive and helpful seems to be a quicker, less cluttered solution.

[martinv]

Just curious,  Is there a "Show your FLIR images" topic?  Should we start one?  I'm curious to see what results people are getting with these mods, external lenses etc.

[mrflibble]

Maybe they don't deserve a easy answer and maybe we deserve a cookie for reading the whole thread, but in the end being positive and helpful seems to be a quicker, less cluttered solution.

Ignoring lazy questions is pretty quick and non-cluttered as well.

[tiagobaracho]

Why do we have to repeat the same discussion over and over again?

talking to me ?

Yes.

you have to understand... some of us like to came here once in while and read just few pages..... you guys that are always in this thread knows what have been spoken or not....
This is a problem that always will  happen in forums..... I will not read 260 pages before i post anything... does not make sense..... Its part of being a member of a forum..
And  I read a lot when i was doing the hack ...... but i didnt see any discussion on this subject....
This things happens in real life too.... people are together talking and someone arrives and ask again same thing someone already did.... So now we have to record our conversation and give the gay that arrived later the recorder so he can playback and then he can talk about thing not being repetitive ?
life is like that... its not a prison

I feel like I being baited to feed the trolls but if I understand you correctly - your saying we should just delete all but the last two pages of the thread and dedicate all of our time replying to questions that have already been answered from memory just because you feel like your too important to spend some time reading, on a forum who's primary method of communication is text? Please pass along what ever your on because your living in a awesome little world there. 

If you are that angry unhappy person you can understand like that.... If you are not.. you can understand that you do not need to reply anyone that was talking to someone else, not you.... and not get edgy ok ?
To help the thread i will end this discussion here.

[pomonabill221]

Sure would be nice if the print function would work again.
I did this a while ago and saved the thread, but now that it has grown, the print doesn't do anything but open an empty page.
I am using firefox 27.0.1 win7 64...
Saving the page would make searching for a string MUCH easier than using the forum's search function, plus you have a local copy of the complete thread.

[Taucher]

Sure would be nice if the print function would work again.
I did this a while ago and saved the thread, but now that it has grown, the print doesn't do anything but open an empty page.
I am using firefox 27.0.1 win7 64...
Saving the page would make searching for a string MUCH easier than using the forum's search function, plus you have a local copy of the complete thread.

Yes, the fix applied last time seems not to have worked permanently.... this thread grows: 3900

[pomonabill221]

Sure would be nice if the print function would work again.
I did this a while ago and saved the thread, but now that it has grown, the print doesn't do anything but open an empty page.
I am using firefox 27.0.1 win7 64...
Saving the page would make searching for a string MUCH easier than using the forum's search function, plus you have a local copy of the complete thread.

Yes, the fix applied last time seems not to have worked permanently.... this thread grows: 3900

Good to hear that I am not the only one with this problem... wish it would get fixed!  I'm sure it will eventually though.

[mrflibble]

All the loooong threads have the same problem on this forum. Quite possibly a crappy sql query somewhere that is to fix. Then again, tradition dictates that it's some custom features slapped on later with convoluted logic as mandatory ingredient. And as such less easily fixed. Who knows. 

In the meantime, googling for site:www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown something works fairly well when looking for something in this thread.

[SCE56]

Ok I got my E-4 SW version 1.19.8 Calibrated Jan 22 2014. I made the e8.cfg added my SN then did the CRC and added that number to the .cfg  I then made a zip file with the file path included in the zip so what am I doing wrong? The instal says "(IDS_FILE_FORMAT_ERROR)(IDS_FILE_FORMAT_ERROR)" Can someone please straighten me out. My first training on IR was in the Army we used the AN/PSN7 originally designed for night vision in Vietnam combat. I have used the old one for surveying power lines looking for I2R hot spots. At my last job which I left in the summer we had a FLIR camera and we would use them for all kinds of things from inspecting MCC buckets to verifying the oil level in xfrmrs. My pc use personally for the last few has been mostly Mac so using a new pc with windoze 8 has been challenging. Any help will be greatly appreciated. For me I'm confused on what files have to be in the zip-fif is it both the camera.cmd and the config or just the camera?