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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
274 (27.9%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
50 (5.1%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.7%)

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Offline krom

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6275 on: December 27, 2014, 11:09:30 pm »
Note that the biggest sale of the year for the E4 is coming this Monday. Stay tuned.  Could be under $600 each.

Good job on menu mod.  I just need to find a old windows 7 PC to do it.  That FLIRtools software doesn't install on a VM right.

Who/where is this sale happening?

Is it safe to assume that the hack still works on the latest version?
 

Offline ThermalGuru

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6276 on: December 27, 2014, 11:38:37 pm »
Keep in mind if you plan to make a purchase and want to use the Flir redemption offer that you need to purchase before Dec 31st.

See: http://www.flir.com/instruments/display/?id=64494
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6277 on: December 27, 2014, 11:51:24 pm »
Ok great. 3 spots are also working. It is a sort of variant of spot measurement. It is useful for doing and reading different temperature measurements near each other at the same time. Thank you, Janekivi.  :) You invented a new measurement for Flir.  ;)
Do you also have programmed hot spot and cold spot measurement for the E4? In the measurement box?
I think, that seems very easy for finding the hottest and coldest spot by only pointing around a workplace.  Only the programming seems not so easy because of the big amount of extra sentences in different files, I think. But....we never know. You did already great work.  :clap:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6278 on: December 28, 2014, 12:10:41 am »
Boxing Day present from janekivi, 3-spot measure.

Will keep my E4 warmed up and ready for another one on New Year's Eve
 ::)
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 12:29:08 am by Bud »
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Offline tsmith35

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6279 on: December 28, 2014, 05:10:26 am »
So, do the new hacks of the 2.3.0 FW have capabilities and functionality beyond the hacks available for the 1.22 and prior FW?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6280 on: December 28, 2014, 06:59:02 am »
So, do the new hacks of the 2.3.0 FW have capabilities and functionality beyond the hacks available for the 1.22 and prior FW?
For normal use the most functions seems to work.

But insulation (Isotherm) was not enabled, as far as i know.
And 2 half implemented Measurements (Line and Circle) will also missing. For the normal Camera user surely not important... but this functions will be measured and can readout, but will not be displayed on screen.

But interesting to know is... how much Spots and Boxes are usable?
I have set all to a limit of 5, so I can have 5 spots and 5 Boxes at the same time (well... it is not a really good idea, because it slows down the camera)

and... are difference measurement and ref temp also enabled?

I sadly have much to do last time...
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6281 on: December 28, 2014, 08:10:01 am »
So far the following mods on 2.3.0

resolution
additional palettes
zoom
pip
3-spots measure

workarounds:

manual scale
jpg quality

other:

web interface
battery icons

ftp login without boot (in RNDIS permanent mode, just connect usb cable)
user: anonymous
psw: NcFTP@

Attached is a set of pics before and after resolution mod. Much noise was cured.

EDIT: Also (from earlier in this thread) when battery is charging, pressing Left and Right cursor buttons together will display battery charging progress information.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 08:47:05 am by Bud »
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Offline leoibb

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6282 on: December 28, 2014, 10:31:25 am »
There is,some great effort off you guys far beyond what I understand hats off to you lot. . I'm curious what distance would an e8 read at and does the zoom option zoom the sensor or just the visual screen ?
 

Offline bookaboo

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6283 on: December 28, 2014, 12:01:43 pm »
The zoom is digital only on the E4-E8 models.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6284 on: December 28, 2014, 02:56:37 pm »
Ok thanks for that
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6285 on: December 29, 2014, 05:39:54 am »
Note that the biggest sale of the year for the E4 is coming this Monday. Stay tuned.  Could be under $600 each.

It's Monday where I am. Details, please?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6286 on: December 29, 2014, 06:40:20 am »
Note that the biggest sale of the year for the E4 is coming this Monday. Stay tuned.  Could be under $600 each.

It's Monday where I am. Details, please?
Since it's Monday now for you you're probably out of luck ... this might be US only.
Zoro.com is selling them for 696.50 currently. Use code SAVENOW30.
They do mention something about international shipping ... I'm actually curious about how that works, let us know if you order.
For those that have a Upromise mastercard - you can get an aditional 10% back - making this $625 ...
Or use MrRebates.com for $25 back in cahsback ... if you're into that.

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6287 on: December 29, 2014, 06:45:45 am »
Zorro.com sale 30% off


Code- SAVENOW30

From 16:00-22:00 UTC 12/29/14
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6288 on: December 29, 2014, 07:11:40 am »
Zorro.com sale 30% off
Code- SAVENOW30
From 16:00-22:00 UTC 12/29/14

FYI It's Live now... not starting at 16:00 UTC ...
 

Offline pingo

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6289 on: December 29, 2014, 07:39:06 am »
Hello. Has there been anything written regarding camera temperature calibration? I see that in cold weather (even above 0°C), reported temperatures are too low by many degrees. Has anyone tried recalibrating it?
 

Offline The_Raven

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6290 on: December 29, 2014, 11:01:49 am »
Everything worked fine with a 2.3.0 E4 (resolution, zoom, pip...).  :)
The only thing is that i can not set jpg-quality to 100.
When i log in with telnet and run "rset .image.services.store.quality 100" i get:
rset: failed to contact server

So whats wrong?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6291 on: December 29, 2014, 11:07:28 am »
Hello. Has there been anything written regarding camera temperature calibration? I see that in cold weather (even above 0°C), reported temperatures are too low by many degrees. Has anyone tried recalibrating it?

Calibration is not straightforward and can only be done with appropriate knowledge and equipment.
What you can and should look at is the settings for reflected temperature and emissivity of what you are looking at (among other things). Thermal cameras are not quite "point and shoot" if you want accurate absolute readings.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6292 on: December 29, 2014, 01:48:43 pm »
hey guys...

I improved my software and now it takes 3 seconds to get a full radiometric image from the Camera (Resolution must be 320x240 and USB with RNDIS).

If the image is arrived, it could be analyzed, interpolate, sharpen, stored....

have fun  :-+
Link (or see footer):Thermoviewer_007_release

edit: link now correct
« Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 09:46:13 am by joe-c »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6293 on: December 29, 2014, 02:56:59 pm »
Since it's Monday now for you you're probably out of luck ... this might be US only.
Zoro.com is selling them for 696.50 currently. Use code SAVENOW30.

Ah, I see. I got mine from Zoro with an earlier 25% coupon (yes, I'm US). It would have been great to save another $50, but not great enough to do a return-and-rebuy, and after the reminders on this thread, I'm not really comfortable doing the hack-and-flip-on-eBay thing.
 

Offline michaeliv

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6294 on: December 29, 2014, 03:41:57 pm »
Since it's Monday now for you you're probably out of luck ... this might be US only.
Zoro.com is selling them for 696.50 currently. Use code SAVENOW30.

Ah, I see. I got mine from Zoro with an earlier 25% coupon (yes, I'm US). It would have been great to save another $50, but not great enough to do a return-and-rebuy, and after the reminders on this thread, I'm not really comfortable doing the hack-and-flip-on-eBay thing.
what reminders on this thread prevent you from hacking/flipping on eBay ?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6295 on: December 29, 2014, 05:22:19 pm »
@michaeliv,

Simple....FLIR may pursue you as you will be a seller of what they perceive as a 'Fake' product. They have done it before. It may sound illogical but that is the route that their legal bods have taken.
To date FLIR have directed their pursuit of such sellers via ebay and via dealers who supplied the camera. They can obtain your home address and details through these means.

At least one person on this forum has 'gone dark' after being directly contacted by FLIR with threats of legal action.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6296 on: December 29, 2014, 08:02:57 pm »
For development there is more data needed...

To seeing how much free space there is on flash, you can add this line to "Camera information":
Code: [Select]
<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="STORAGE"  label="ID_SETUP_STORAGE"  value="*" nextModel="hiddenServiceSettingsModel"/>I add all interesting stuff if I ever get done something... or crashing
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6297 on: December 29, 2014, 08:11:03 pm »
humm.... is that video I see????

Might pick up another e4 from zoro while it is 30% off. (need the business expense!!)

 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6298 on: December 29, 2014, 08:22:45 pm »
Ok, this is only picture
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6299 on: December 29, 2014, 09:58:05 pm »
On the one screen it looks like zoom is gone and it has a lightbulb? So only single shot works but it has a film strip? Do you think video recording is available? or is that just when the camera is connected to computer?
 


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