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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #400 on: January 25, 2019, 03:00:01 pm »
All this situation makes me fortunate that I'm in a situation where I own.   If I did ever build up a hobby into a business I don't have to worry too much about having the rug pulled from under me.  Though I guess there is the whole thing of municipalities often not liking people doing business in their home, but it's easier to hide for online stuff. 

Since Youtube is what she does wonder how viable it would be for her to just move somewhere really cheap where she can own a property and not be at the mercy of a landlord.   Still need a form of down payment and steady income though.  Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
The problem with that often is that everything becomes much more of a pain and that finding suppliers can be painful. People concentrate in cities for good reasons, even if that means space becomes woefully expensive.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #401 on: January 25, 2019, 04:37:09 pm »
All this situation makes me fortunate that I'm in a situation where I own.   If I did ever build up a hobby into a business I don't have to worry too much about having the rug pulled from under me.  Though I guess there is the whole thing of municipalities often not liking people doing business in their home, but it's easier to hide for online stuff. 

Since Youtube is what she does wonder how viable it would be for her to just move somewhere really cheap where she can own a property and not be at the mercy of a landlord.   Still need a form of down payment and steady income though.  Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
You are right Mr Squirrel.  It is typical for a building owner to lease a building to someone to start a retail business, let's say selling ice cream.  If it is successful, the lease will not be renewed and the owner then starts his own ice cream business in the same location.  It is best to own your building if you want to operate a business.

AFAIK, Fran can live anywhere.  Housing is cheap in upstate NY but you don't have all the "culture" or "entertainment" available to you that is in NYC or Philly.

Louis Rossmann in NYC has a thriving business, some of which is walk-in traffic.  But Jessa Jones, who does similar work at iPad Rehab is in upstate NY, Honeoye Falls, NY (Population 2,674).  Most of her business has to be mail in.     

Good luck to Fran.  I hope things work out for her.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #402 on: January 25, 2019, 04:52:44 pm »
The problem with that often is that everything becomes much more of a pain and that finding suppliers can be painful. People concentrate in cities for good reasons, even if that means space becomes woefully expensive.
So what's so special about Philly (or NYC, or Silicon Valley, for that matter)?
At least as far as "local suppliers" in the electronics game, there isn't really anywhere in the US (or perhaps any other country except possibly China)  Detroit is an example of the failure of concentrating in cities.  That was a phenomenon of a previous century, at least for supply lines.  Today we have the world-wide internet and global deliver services.

Although the number and size of mega-cities continues to grow in the 21st century.  But it doesn't seem to have any relationship to supply lines.  And the next pandemic will be devastating in mega-cities.
 
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #403 on: January 25, 2019, 04:53:44 pm »
I have no idea who this woman is and I did not know her channel but she has a broken voice which I find grating.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #404 on: January 25, 2019, 07:08:52 pm »
I was looking at the patreon channel and they sacked the negotiator and went back on their "promises" and they are not replying to her emails now.

I think she said about the landlord/builders wanting everyone out by March and her lease runs out in July.

What about refunding part of the lease.
How can that be legal?
It's the US. If you don't own it, it's not your decision.
I really wish there is a credit union or such that monitors lenders and landlords. This way she can report that incident to that credit union and make their business that bit harder when they want to rent out anything again.

The state-run credit system of China currently monitors both ends of the contract. If a landlord goes back on a contract without proper compensation the tenant can report the incident to the landlord’s bank, which will result in a strike in the landlord’s general credit report.
I suppose you mean a type of credit reporting agency? (In USA, the term “credit union” is already taken, and means a type of community-owned bank.)

And yes, it sounds like a great idea!
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #405 on: January 25, 2019, 07:11:13 pm »
I have no idea who this woman is and I did not know her channel but she has a broken voice which I find grating.
Broken?! That’s kind of an extreme opinion...

Meanwhile, she actually has a certain following specifically because of her voice, which they find calming.
 
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #406 on: January 25, 2019, 07:15:15 pm »
I have a co-worker who is a healthy man in his 30s but has voice of a 90 years old person. So that happens.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #407 on: January 25, 2019, 10:04:20 pm »
It reminds me of Eevblog video but I can't remember what it was called.
It was about saving your money for when you're out of a job and Dave called it "screw you money."

In this case it seems the opposite.
The landlord makes profit out of the residents and screws them over by shortening their duration and using other various means with their own money from the leases. Any legal resistance will be met with more screw you money that the landlord throws at the lawyers to screw over the residents further.

Just an idea.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #408 on: January 25, 2019, 11:14:52 pm »
If the average rent for an area is going up really fast, say 15% a year, and because lets say almost nobody's income is rising that fast, lets say that as a sort of act of desperation, a law gets passed by a municipality saying that no matter what rental agreements or leases say, people who rent for a month or longer are protected from arbitrary evictions and rent increases larger than the CPI, lets say that is 3.5% a year, for as long as they stay in an apartment, as long as they are a good tenant and pay rent on time and don't break laws.

However in a few years the going rate may be twice or more what long term tenants are paying.

What happens then? What is the solution?  This is a real problem.

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #409 on: January 25, 2019, 11:26:01 pm »
She is concerned about her viewers leaving her and that she will be called a snowflake and whatnots if she goes public but the whatnot's? have yet to see the real "snowflakes" in her building in the form of dust or unless they themselves don't care about working in it and I thought builders were wearing protection from the dust and noise but it sounds in her videos like they're not.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #410 on: January 26, 2019, 12:31:18 am »
So what's so special about Philly (or NYC, or Silicon Valley, for that matter)?
At least as far as "local suppliers" in the electronics game, there isn't really anywhere in the US (or perhaps any other country except possibly China)  Detroit is an example of the failure of concentrating in cities.  That was a phenomenon of a previous century, at least for supply lines.  Today we have the world-wide internet and global deliver services.

Although the number and size of mega-cities continues to grow in the 21st century.  But it doesn't seem to have any relationship to supply lines.  And the next pandemic will be devastating in mega-cities.
Maybe electronics is one of the more favourable fields, but that's not the only field of interest. I've worked out in the boondocks and getting things done is a hassle. Simple things can become a chore and tight planning becomes much more vital while still occasionally blowing up in your face. The advantage of a place like Silicon Valley is that everything and anything you could need is readily available. It's like a chemical reaction where all the required parts are readily available. It'll bang instead of fizz.

This does come at a price, so you'll have to see whether that makes sense to you.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #411 on: January 26, 2019, 12:50:51 am »
I really wish there is a credit union or such that monitors lenders and landlords. This way she can report that incident to that credit union and make their business that bit harder when they want to rent out anything again.

The state-run credit system of China currently monitors both ends of the contract. If a landlord goes back on a contract without proper compensation the tenant can report the incident to the landlord’s bank, which will result in a strike in the landlord’s general credit report.
Some basics rights protecting the renter would do, but the US system tends to heavily favour the landlord.

The problem is the ease enforcing those rights. Fran might very well have every legal right to stay and not have them demolish around her, but when I big company doesn't care and starts to do it, how easy is ti to enforce your right?
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #412 on: January 26, 2019, 12:52:25 am »
Since Youtube is what she does wonder how viable it would be for her to just move somewhere really cheap where she can own a property and not be at the mercy of a landlord.

She doesn't want to leave Philly for various reasons.
Yes, she could buy a house on her own land in a small town with the crowd funding money, but that's not what she wants to do.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #413 on: January 26, 2019, 12:55:09 am »
So what's so special about Philly (or NYC, or Silicon Valley, for that matter)?

Party because it's a trans friendly city.
But a big city being a big city with it's extremes everywhere, you might be able to argue that a small town could be potentially safer.
 
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #414 on: January 26, 2019, 01:00:38 am »
I really wish there is a credit union or such that monitors lenders and landlords. This way she can report that incident to that credit union and make their business that bit harder when they want to rent out anything again.

The state-run credit system of China currently monitors both ends of the contract. If a landlord goes back on a contract without proper compensation the tenant can report the incident to the landlord’s bank, which will result in a strike in the landlord’s general credit report.
Some basics rights protecting the renter would do, but the US system tends to heavily favour the landlord.

The problem is the ease enforcing those rights. Fran might very well have every legal right to stay and not have them demolish around her, but when I big company doesn't care and starts to do it, how easy is ti to enforce your right?

Exactly. The problem is, almost anybody who has the money to live in a major US city has too much money to get low cost help, and there lies the problem.
The rising rents have made it seem desirable to bad landlords to keep tenants moving in and out every few years. This subset of apartment building owning folk sometimes express feelings to the effect that they are missing out on huge profits by having long term tenants stay and pay rent on time for more than three or four years in the same apartment. They are the exception rather than the rule and many of them are new owners, but ... arrgh.. 

Sometimes in the past in some cities, (NYC) where neighborhoods were gentrifying rapidly, this occasionally quite hideously devolved into an arson situation.

There are now professionals who advertise their services in driving people out, who move in pretending to be just another building dweller and then drive the people living around them out by every dirty trick possible.

They advertise in apartment owners association yellow pages.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #415 on: January 26, 2019, 01:00:51 am »
She is concerned about her viewers leaving her and that she will be called a snowflake and whatnots if she goes public

I don't really understand this thinking, people are always going to get behind the underdog. Small video blogger who has a rental contract gets screwed and the building around her containing asbestos gets demolished as she sleeps. This is a 6 o'clock news worthy David vs Goliath fight, and could be national coverage if played right. That fact that it involves family relations to Trump makes it all the more a juicy story.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #416 on: January 26, 2019, 01:12:40 am »
Honestly, at this point, I think she should devote some quality time to asking other trans people about smaller towns. Along the Hudson River there are a lot of smaller towns (Nyack is one) that are not so gentrified, are nice, artsy, and I suspect would be welcoming, not hostile to her and her cool stuff.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #417 on: January 26, 2019, 01:55:49 am »
She is concerned about her viewers leaving her and that she will be called a snowflake and whatnots if she goes public

I don't really understand this thinking, people are always going to get behind the underdog. Small video blogger who has a rental contract gets screwed and the building around her containing asbestos gets demolished as she sleeps. This is a 6 o'clock news worthy David vs Goliath fight, and could be national coverage if played right. That fact that it involves family relations to Trump makes it all the more a juicy story.

I see on Patreon "I wish I could help... and if we all chpped in etc" maybe they can all help Fran by also exposing the situation about the building.

But I suppose for those that live far out, I am not sure if some live close or not, that they would have to travel there which maybe impractical.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #418 on: January 26, 2019, 04:36:57 am »
I see on Patreon "I wish I could help... and if we all chpped in etc"...
Is funding currently the biggest problem to be solved? Regardless, I would say that it wouldn't hurt and it's something a bit of distributed computing can help with.
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« Reply #419 on: January 26, 2019, 09:32:05 am »
Honestly, at this point, I think she should devote some quality time to asking other trans people about smaller towns.

I suggested that some time ago.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #420 on: January 26, 2019, 10:52:43 am »
She is concerned about her viewers leaving her and that she will be called a snowflake and whatnots if she goes public

I don't really understand this thinking, people are always going to get behind the underdog. Small video blogger who has a rental contract gets screwed and the building around her containing asbestos gets demolished as she sleeps. This is a 6 o'clock news worthy David vs Goliath fight, and could be national coverage if played right. That fact that it involves family relations to Trump makes it all the more a juicy story.
That would be certainly an interesting fight. The problem is that, once this bottle is opened it can't be closed again. In one of her videos she mentioned the aversion to interact with people - imagine with journailsts, where several are specialists in the art of deception and distortion. That and the fact she would expose her businesses to public scrutiny.

She is a smart person and probably calculated all these risks, including personal safety - unfortunately, as I said before, we are not privy to all details about her lease contract and her business affairs.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #421 on: January 26, 2019, 03:21:43 pm »
She is concerned about her viewers leaving her and that she will be called a snowflake and whatnots if she goes public

I don't really understand this thinking, people are always going to get behind the underdog. Small video blogger who has a rental contract gets screwed and the building around her containing asbestos gets demolished as she sleeps. This is a 6 o'clock news worthy David vs Goliath fight, and could be national coverage if played right. That fact that it involves family relations to Trump makes it all the more a juicy story.
That would be certainly an interesting fight. The problem is that, once this bottle is opened it can't be closed again. In one of her videos she mentioned the aversion to interact with people - imagine with journailsts, where several are specialists in the art of deception and distortion. That and the fact she would expose her businesses to public scrutiny.

She is a smart person and probably calculated all these risks, including personal safety - unfortunately, as I said before, we are not privy to all details about her lease contract and her business affairs.

So she wants to use her time and energy to continue with what she doing with the work to the best she can and not get distracted or derailed by unwanted attention.

I see that what keeps the subscribers in and the support and the videos going.
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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #422 on: January 27, 2019, 03:47:47 am »
All this situation makes me fortunate that I'm in a situation where I own.   If I did ever build up a hobby into a business I don't have to worry too much about having the rug pulled from under me.  Though I guess there is the whole thing of municipalities often not liking people doing business in their home, but it's easier to hide for online stuff. 

Since Youtube is what she does wonder how viable it would be for her to just move somewhere really cheap where she can own a property and not be at the mercy of a landlord.   Still need a form of down payment and steady income though.  Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
You are right Mr Squirrel.  It is typical for a building owner to lease a building to someone to start a retail business, let's say selling ice cream.  If it is successful, the lease will not be renewed and the owner then starts his own ice cream business in the same location.  It is best to own your building if you want to operate a business.

AFAIK, Fran can live anywhere.  Housing is cheap in upstate NY but you don't have all the "culture" or "entertainment" available to you that is in NYC or Philly.

Louis Rossmann in NYC has a thriving business, some of which is walk-in traffic.  But Jessa Jones, who does similar work at iPad Rehab is in upstate NY, Honeoye Falls, NY (Population 2,674).  Most of her business has to be mail in.     

Good luck to Fran.  I hope things work out for her.
Louis Rossmann just got it stuck to him by the owner of his building.  There has been no gas heat in his building for 3 months.  Management gave him 3 tiny electric heaters to use to heat his work area.  Guess who is sitting in the cold?  Guess who pays for the electricity!

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #423 on: January 27, 2019, 10:19:29 am »
Louis Rossmann just got it stuck to him by the owner of his building.  There has been no gas heat in his building for 3 months.  Management gave him 3 tiny electric heaters to use to heat his work area.  Guess who is sitting in the cold?  Guess who pays for the electricity!

Own your space!


Or move to a place with decent laws protecting the renter. In many places that wouldn't fly. You'd simply hire a repair main and send the bill to the owner, or deduct it from the rent.
 

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Re: FranLab is getting evicted
« Reply #424 on: January 27, 2019, 01:03:53 pm »
This sort of thing has been happening a lot in Seattle, older buildings being demolished and replaced with high rise buildings full of luxury condos or apartments. I can't even explain how thankful I am that I bought a house back when I did because there's no way I could afford to live around here anymore if I hadn't. Screw renting, I don't ever want to be paying someone elses mortgage again.

Can confirm.

Back in 2016 I had to move from my surprisingly decently priced 1br off Yesler because the owner sold the building. Now there's $500k condos in its place. 🙄
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