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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
274 (27.9%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
50 (5.1%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.7%)

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Offline sky@eevblog

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6375 on: January 03, 2015, 03:56:59 pm »
Sky, is that lack of a space between DeltaT and measure in the 2.3.0 file on the line ID_AUTO_DELTA_TEMP  Ic_MeasureToolPreset_DeltaTmeasure_delta_t .... in the original file, or did that accidentally get inserted in the copy/paste?

Suppose I accidentally removed space there while making text readable. In fact it is not space but 0x00 delimiter in 'facet_ui_qml.dll'. You may open the file in any hex editor and check it by yourself.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 04:03:16 pm by sky@eevblog »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6376 on: January 03, 2015, 05:49:41 pm »
Just a thought for a workaround:
You were able to set the image quality to 100 with those measuring spot preset files. Maybe it's possible to use this for RNDIS as well?

Yes i thought of this workaround before, have not tried it yet but should work.

RNDIS_UVC_MSD mode did not work and bricked my camera. I eventually reset the camera to factory default and reinstalled flir device drivers, one these or both gave me a ftp access again so i could delete the offending file.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6377 on: January 03, 2015, 08:58:49 pm »
As you noticed I didn't get "pip small" working. All is there except here
.ui.setup.fusion.PIPsmall
file contains data - ui_pipfusion.rsc
in here it is - .registry.ui.setup.fusion.PIPsmall
May be there is solution somewhere?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6378 on: January 03, 2015, 09:10:16 pm »


This can explain why 'measure_spot_cold_spot' doesn't work anymore when used in 'toolbar-config.xml'. Any ideas where to look? May be one knows good resource viewer to look inside those *.dlls for icons? If they stored as bitmaps it could be possible copy-paste icons from 1.x.x file to 2.3.0 file.

In post #888 and #910 are some files to download that are decrypted for use with earlier firmware. In this files are also icons.
I think these files are also used by Janekivi.  ;)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6379 on: January 03, 2015, 09:27:01 pm »
I remember my first post here... it was like a yesterday : )
I got my files from here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg541860/#msg541860
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 09:28:37 pm by janekivi »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6380 on: January 03, 2015, 09:31:43 pm »
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RNDIS_UVC_MSD mode did not work and bricked my camera. I eventually reset the camera to factory default and reinstalled flir device drivers, one these or both gave me a ftp access again so i could delete the offending file.

This behavior has also been observed prior to firmware 2.3.0 . Even I tried it a while ago with my camera (fw 1.19.8 ) and it didn't work. It seems to be some kind of driver issue or incompatibility with the cam itself. Was no big deal back then but if the USB menu isn't working then it is of course.

I try to look into the USB menu tomorrow. Maybe I can find something. The menu itself is there, the commands for setting the USB mode are working, so there only can be a link missing between those two.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6381 on: January 03, 2015, 09:51:04 pm »
Does anybody know the difference between this and the good old Taucher menu mod done on the FW 1.19.x?
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg326024/#msg326024

To answer my own question, for people like me who got the resolution hack on the FW 1.19.x, installed the Taucher menu and then disappeared as happy customers do, see below....

It seems those guys here are now light years beyond the point I stop to follow this thread (Feb 2014).
Now there is for example a 3 spots measurement which I didn't see in the Taucher menu see here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg575788/#msg575788

also a funtion which set the stored jpeg quality seems pretty atractive. It looks like the Dragon janekivi took the Exx config files and then shaped them to fit pefectly an E4 to get many super powers I don't even know.

Tempted to undo the resolution hack to the FW 1.19.x, upgrade to 2.3.0 and then get all the new goodies you bastards created (still trying to find out the official way to do that). I am scared to death to brick my unit thow, I hope the old HW 1.0 will survive the upgrade to 2.3.0, without any collateral effect.

Thanks for let me read/skim over the 1000 (and increasing) pages I overlooked.

What a beautiful mess, what will be the end of this?
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 10:07:24 pm by zucca »
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6382 on: January 04, 2015, 04:50:06 am »
zucca, much of the progress on 2.3.0 has been accomplished by Janekivi in the last 30-45 days, before then about all we had was the resolution hack, and some extra color pallets.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6383 on: January 04, 2015, 09:00:10 am »
zucca, much of the progress on 2.3.0 has been accomplished by Janekivi in the last 30-45 days, before then about all we had was the resolution hack, and some extra color pallets.

In my opinion, the resolution is like 99% of the useful function for me, the rest is like topping on the cake. Don t misunderstand me, I agree Janekivi has done great work (true "hacking", thank you for menu hacks removing flir logo and extra pallets). I don't need anything else as I am using camera mostly with extra lens (see my earlier post).
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6384 on: January 04, 2015, 09:48:54 am »
I keep reso hack separated from my menu hack and this is like a tribute for his work.
I could incorporate it but no. And you can use it separately.
This is good self control if you don't download my menu addon!  :-+
As I said there is by default 1372 different combinations of use now and you can
make more from 3 spot preset: 5 spot,  14 spot, hot cold spot and so on...
and sometimes there is something useful to see what's going on with your object.

And yes, this menu makes better toy from it and now here is more stuff for playing.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 10:11:36 am by janekivi »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6385 on: January 04, 2015, 04:24:29 pm »
Does anyone have a link to a copy of the E4 hack "v02.zip" for Version 2.3.0 file?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6386 on: January 04, 2015, 11:03:33 pm »
For anyone interested in thermal calibration references (Black Bodies) I have uploaded some pictures of the inside of an IsoTech plate radiator Black Body here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/thermal-camera-black-body-calibration-check-source-inside-the-isotech-988/msg580476/#msg580476

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6387 on: January 05, 2015, 02:27:06 pm »
-you need restartapp.bat from old software
(in telnet I must type first command to introduction and after second
command all working and I can't reuse that command, I must retype it)

Dear janekivi
I have restartapp.bat from 1.18.7 and
1. it fails to start 'prodapp.exe' as there is no such file anymore
2. it fails to terminate appcore process
3. it end with 'libpng error: [20][20][20][20]: invalid chunk type'
4. most of the time camera hangs after execution of the batch file

Would you mind to post your version of restartapp please?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6388 on: January 05, 2015, 04:34:34 pm »
I don't know where I got my wersion but with it I done... may be 2014 restarts for this menu hack
Any error you may see with it is not a problem. Shorter delay is not working.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6389 on: January 05, 2015, 06:55:16 pm »
@sky
There is stopapp. bat file on the camera , you could try replacing the processes list in janelivi's file with what is in there. And remove prodapp line. Pls let us know if worked.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6390 on: January 05, 2015, 07:22:52 pm »
Hi!
I need big help!
I have a Flir E4 device. Firmware 2.3
Accidentaly I deleted the content of the FlashBFS/System folder through FTP.
Since then I can't connect through FTP and the camera - of course - not working.
All I can do is to switch it to RNDIS mode.
I don't have any backup files for the device.
How could I fix my problem?
Could someone help me please?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6391 on: January 05, 2015, 07:40:45 pm »
This is not big problem
(there can be bigger problems : ) )
Download this and run fif with FLIRInstallNet
FLIR Ex (2.3.0) Update Pack
 

Offline Gozi

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6392 on: January 05, 2015, 08:26:02 pm »
Thank you very much for your help! You've saved my life.  :D
(Upgrade is progressing...)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6393 on: January 05, 2015, 08:35:54 pm »
After that you have factory common_dll.dll but conf.cfc is... what it was...
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6394 on: January 06, 2015, 12:02:35 am »
Hi there. I am a newbie and didn't mean to double post, but it seems the Newbie Q&A thread is not as active as this one.
I am about to purchase an E4B and I would like to know if it can be hacked the same way as the E4. Thank you!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6395 on: January 06, 2015, 02:42:59 am »
maybe I'm just tired, or a stupid noob, but I'm not having any luck
I run: FLIRInstallNet
browse to: Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif
Click: Run FiF

Then get:

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Received shell command message:
FLIR Command Line Interpreter
Version 0.4.3 running on WinCE 6.0

\>
Connected
Installation started...
Camera command usbfn RNDIS


Timeout waiting for camera response
Camera update completed

Ok


as the output.

I but when I open a command window and run ipconfig, this is what I get:

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C:\Users\T>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8860:357c:53c1:940e%3
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:9d38:6abd:2d:bc3:3f57:fffb
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2d:bc3:3f57:fffb%5
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::

Tunnel adapter isatap.{7581A323-7EC1-47C1-AAD5-038726D03316}:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

C:\Users\T>
no luck finding it or connecting with ftp


FWIW, I'm using win 8.1

« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 02:45:40 am by krom »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6396 on: January 06, 2015, 04:33:09 am »
Dunno if this is your problem, but a while back I posted my solution to a somewhat similar problem, one that several others seem to have had with Win7/8: Windows Firewall. In my case, With Win7, although I'd already given permission to access that subnet, and to the Winderz FTP app to access that subnet, A SECOND ENTRY for Winderz FTP (that hadn't been there before) magically appeared during hack attempts, and finally when I gave permission to this second entry for Winderz FTP everything worked. So, MAYBE this is the realm of your problem, a security/permissions issue? :-//

(I've been a tuxer since 2009/WinXP and only have one Win/MSFT box running "just in case" so it'd be better if those much more familiar look into this.)
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6397 on: January 06, 2015, 05:04:25 am »
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Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8860:357c:53c1:940e%3
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Is that what the camera configures or this is your computer's LAN? Disconnect the camera  and run ipconfig again. If the above address stays , it is your computer's IP and your router IP, try powering off the router and reconnect the camera.
Best though is to use a XP computer or virtual machine.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6398 on: January 06, 2015, 05:23:46 am »
Just added the new menu hack and when selecting 3 spots nothing really happens.  The circle target is a little to the left on the screen as if it's stuck.  Is that normal?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #6399 on: January 06, 2015, 08:42:05 am »
Dear Janekivi,
The resolution and menu hack was succesful. It's beautiful. Thank you for your help!
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