EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Halcyon]

[EEVblog]

I got so much stick for doing a video like this, people are morons
 

You did good Arlen, don't worry about it.
Yes people are morons, and some people get very angry at the truth, they can't handle it.
Keep it up, you are the one creating content, they are the ones making hot air. You are the winner.

[EEVblog]

I keep saying it because there are no specs to be found. I mean, mature, real specs. Most crap on Aliexpress has better documentation.

The specs are a different thing entirely to the actual product being a real physical thing.
There is no doubt the physical prototypes exist and they work as a basic boost converter.

[EEVblog]

remember The Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate? or Chomsky-some other idiot one? its always a TARP, all it does it legitimises the retards pretending they are on the level playing field. It reframes the situation from 'look at that idiot' to 'oh, its a matter of opinion'.

Yep, I agree.
I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.
It's simple, they have made extraordinary claims, they can put up a video providing their extraordinary evidence.
Engineers are happy to be proven wrong just show us the data and the proof.
It speaks volumes that Batteriser, after 5 years of development and huge money invested, have not been able to show one scrap of proof their claims are real that any decent engineer will see and go "Oh, yeah, its really does work as claimed".

[ccs46]

remember The Bill Nye-Ken Ham debate? or Chomsky-some other idiot one? its always a TARP, all it does it legitimises the retards pretending they are on the level playing field. It reframes the situation from 'look at that idiot' to 'oh, its a matter of opinion'.

Yep, I agree.
I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.
It's simple, they have made extraordinary claims, they can put up a video providing their extraordinary evidence.
Engineers are happy to be proven wrong just show us the data and the proof.
It speaks volumes that Batteriser, after 5 years of development and huge money invested, have not been able to show one scrap of proof their claims are real that any decent engineer will see and go "Oh, yeah, its really does work as claimed".

My question is, will you ask the tough questions on the live stream? Oh by the way Dave they can't take down your video,
Since your video falls under the Fair Dealing law of Australia for these reasons:
review or criticism
research or study

[EEVblog]

My question is, will you ask the tough questions on the live stream?

I don't know anything about this live stream, and I wouldn't waste my time on it anyway.

Oh by the way Dave they can't take down your video,
Since your video falls under the Fair Dealing law of Australia for these reasons:
review or criticism
research or study

I know that, they'd be fools to even try, which is why they haven't tried.

[EEVblog]

My question is, will you ask the tough questions on the live stream?

I don't know anything about this live stream, and I wouldn't waste my time on it anyway for the reasons Rasz said. It's like debating a creationist, it's pointless.
They can make fools out of themselves, it seems they don't need my help.
I know some people might find this surprising, but I'm not all that interested in Batteriser apart from mild amusement.
When they put up their new video, it'll be hard to find the enthusiasm to do another reply video to what will almost certainly be more BS.

Oh by the way Dave they can't take down your video,
Since your video falls under the Fair Dealing law of Australia for these reasons:
review or criticism
research or study

I know that, they'd be fools to even try, which is why they haven't tried.

[LabSpokane]

A "debate" in which the opposing party controls the venue, the agenda, and the mute button is not a debate.

Please, no one take duh-bait.

[Halcyon]

A "debate" in which the opposing party controls the venue, the agenda, and the mute button is not a debate.

Please, no one take the bait.

I have no intention in watching or even subscribing to their channel. Crap like Batteriser are spinning doesn't deserve views except for the purpose of ridicule.

[EEVblog]

I just checked on their PSU "debunking" video, 1140 thumbs down 

[LabSpokane]

I'm on pins and needles waiting for an instructional video showing:

0.9 + 0.1 = 8

Apparently the video production techniques required to suspend mathematics are fairly involved. I thought they'd be done by now.

[Mr.B]

I just checked on their PSU "debunking" video, 1140 thumbs down 

1,141 now...

[photon]

A debate? I didn't know the questions in science and engineering depended on debating skills. I thought it was a question of logic and experiment. Silly me.

[EEVblog]

A debate? I didn't know the questions in science and engineering depended on debating skills. I thought it was a question of logic and experiment. Silly me.

That's why you'd be foolish to debate them, just like debating creationists. Show us your engineering evidence or don't be surprised when engineers laugh at silly demonstrably wrong claims.

[SL4P]

DAVE -
Just curious... have the Batteriser / Batteroo / Roopahvar team tried to contact ypu in any way or fprm since this exploded ?

[ccs46]

Apparently the video production techniques required to suspend mathematics are fairly involved. I thought they'd be done by now.

Well maybe they (Finally) realized it's a lost cause and are trying to suspend it as long as possible? I wonder if they are running around with their asses on fire.     

[LabSpokane]

Apparently the video production techniques required to suspend mathematics are fairly involved. I thought they'd be done by now.

Well maybe they (Finally) realized it's a lost cause and are trying to suspend it as long as possible? I wonder if they are running around with their asses on fire.     

If someone's tail is on fire, it's because a few angry Korean VC's are chasing them around the office with a flamethrower.

SK Telecom opens the bank account on their client's behalf. You have to wonder if they didn't walk down to the bank yesterday and turn off the spigot.

[EEVblog]

Just curious... have the Batteriser / Batteroo / Roopahvar team tried to contact ypu in any way or fprm since this exploded ?

Nope, nothing. Not even a message on my videos, or blog post, or the forum.
I think that actually tells a lot.

[EEVblog]

Apparently the video production techniques required to suspend mathematics are fairly involved. I thought they'd be done by now.

Well maybe they (Finally) realized it's a lost cause and are trying to suspend it as long as possible?

Their video will no doubt be very polished and again professionally produced, and that takes time. Although they did say "stand by". But once again, that's though this stupid and confusing Batteroo "Fan Page", so technically it's not them saying anything.

[SL4P]

Just curious... have the Batteriser / Batteroo / Roopahvar team tried to contact ypu in any way or fprm since this exploded ?

Nope, nothing. Not even a message on my videos, or blog post, or the forum.
I think that actually tells a lot.

Indeed - if they try to call you out - they have to expose their position to validate their gripe!
Laughing!

[Halcyon]

I wonder if this guy is our "Brad Jones" AKA "David Parish" (he doesn't even make a convincing magician)...



I literally laughed out loud when the next video in YouTube's automatic playlist was Dave's debunking video! 

The video does explain it all though; Batteriser isn't based on science or fact, it's magic!

I've also noticed they've recently begun uploading and linking their videos to Vimeo instead of Youtube, probably to avoid hits/suggestions to the debunking videos? They've also disabled comments on the Vimeo videos.

[FrankBuss]

But once again, that's though this stupid and confusing Batteroo "Fan Page", so technically it's not them saying anything.

All none-fan videos of the Youtube "fan page" are on their Vimeo page, too:

https://vimeo.com/user40765535/videos

The video 134165326 on the Vimeo page of this account is linked from the Indiegogo campaign (see HTML source code of https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/batteriser-extend-battery-life-by-up-to-8x).

[PeterL]

 

[EEVblog]

 

EMERGENCY!
Quick, what is the best idea we can come up with to delay the engineering video that no one will dare question?
That's it, THE TROOPS!
 

[firewalker]

After Garmin, Raytheon is next...

Alexander.