3D Printer yet?

[Zucca]

For the Marlin experts 

are there two files

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Configuration.h
Configuration_adv.h
structurally always the same in the 2.xxx marlin versions?

Example: upgrading from version 2.061 to 2.071 can I just overwrite the two ones provided from the remote branch in github?
In other words I want to upgrade the Marlin FW not my printer settings...

Many thanks in advance.

[xrunner]

They aren't necessarily the exact same file each time. Sometimes they add definitions for the latest version for new features, and so if you compile it may not succeed.

Also there is a check in the file to prevent you from trying to do that. You can change it as I did once and it might compile (it did for me), but it might not like it either.

From configuration.h Marlin version 2.0.5.3 -

#define CONFIGURATION_H_VERSION 020005

and from configuration.h Marlin version 2.0.6.1 -

#define CONFIGURATION_H_VERSION 020006

I always now just compare the files and transfer my settings into the other file, leaving the new parts they put in there alone.

[mnementh]

So... went back to OEM, aside from the dual-drive extruder. We'll see...

mnem
*punt*

[Zucca]

I always now just compare the files and transfer my settings into the other file, leaving the new parts they put in there alone.

Thx.
Now the next question is why git merge does not do his job properly? When I merge my local branch with the new one from github my .h config are wiped out without even asking.

[Zucca]

So... went back to OEM, aside from the dual-drive extruder. We'll see...

Your story make me worried to upgrade to mosquito.

[Monkeh]

I always now just compare the files and transfer my settings into the other file, leaving the new parts they put in there alone.

Thx.
Now the next question is why git merge does not do his job properly? When I merge my local branch with the new one from github my .h config are wiped out without even asking.

Did you have an actual branch with commits, or just a dirty tree?

[mnementh]

So... after going back to stock, putting everything exactly the same as the last time it worked right... it STILL kept because FUCK YOU mnem!!!

Tried a different fan... still . I tried relocating the fan so it blew less on the nozzle... I tried a third roll of filament...



So I went back through all the pics in here from when it was printing awesome... and I finally realized what was different.



This little bastard stainless steel nozzle(s). I'd swapped one in thinking my original brass one was clogged. When I rebuilt with the MicroSwiss, I put this nozzle on it because it was one of the ones that came with it. So I reinstalled my old brass nozzle, did a cold pull to clean it (you can see it came nicely clean above), and...



BAM...! Got this result at 210° without even re-cal-ing my E-STEPS. 

Jeezus H Christ a-hoppin on a pogo stick... what a clusterfuck.

Now... do I just enjoy the damn thing, or go to the hassle of rebuilding it with the 'fang again...?

Mmmmhmmm.... I have oodles of parts I wanna make right now. I think I'll tempt fate another time, when I'm not trying to get something else done...

mnem
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."  ~grand-momma

[mnementh]

Please everyone... a little prayer for my sanity...

mnem

[xrunner]

I was going to suggest a nozzle issue the other day but I figured it would insult your intelligence and that you'd already checked it out. 

Glad you found it though.

[SilverSolder]

So... after going back to stock, putting everything exactly the same as the last time it worked right... it STILL kept because FUCK YOU mnem!!!

Tried a different fan... still . I tried relocating the fan so it blew less on the nozzle... I tried a third roll of filament...



So I went back through all the pics in here from when it was printing awesome... and I finally realized what was different.



This little bastard stainless steel nozzle(s). I'd swapped one in thinking my original brass one was clogged. When I rebuilt with the MicroSwiss, I put this nozzle on it because it was one of the ones that came with it. So I reinstalled my old brass nozzle, did a cold pull to clean it (you can see it came nicely clean above), and...



BAM...! Got this result at 210° without even re-cal-ing my E-STEPS. 

Jeezus H Christ a-hoppin on a pogo stick... what a clusterfuck.

Now... do I just enjoy the damn thing, or go to the hassle of rebuilding it with the 'fang again...?

Mmmmhmmm.... I have oodles of parts I wanna make right now. I think I'll tempt fate another time, when I'm not trying to get something else done...

mnem
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."  ~grand-momma

That's interesting.  S/S is a lot worse heat conductor than brass -  probably the problem?

[mnementh]

I dunno. Seems to me if it sucked that hard, why would anybody ever make a nozzle out of it? Also; a awful lot of SS cookware out there.

Much more likely a user error of some sort; either doesn't belong in this application or I didn't build the hotend right for that nozzle. 

mnem
 

[mnementh]

Nooooooooooo!

This thing has been for a week now... but at least this is a different kind of kicking. Maybe I have some small measure of hope here... LOL

mnem
 

[mnementh]

I was going to suggest a nozzle issue the other day but I figured it would insult your intelligence and that you'd already checked it out. 

Glad you found it though.

Wouldn't have helped a damned bit. I'd have just put another new SS nozzle on there... in fact I did... and still been clueless. 

And you can't insult my intelligence; I know I know barely enough to guess at how little I know. 


mnem
Fuck, I'm lucky if I can tie my shoes without getting lost on the way back up. 

[mnementh]

[01:21]  [19%].

mnem
say no more.

[Monkeh]

Steel nozzles do need higher temperatures and even more care with cooling fans, and can be troublesome. Generally if you're only printing plain PLA, PETG, and styrenes (ABS, ASA, HIPS..), bare brass is easiest. So far I've stuck to brass and not used stainless, hardened, or plated nozzles and been happy.

[Zucca]

Thx.
Now the next question is why git merge does not do his job properly? When I merge my local branch with the new one from github my .h config are wiped out without even asking.

Did you have an actual branch with commits, or just a dirty tree?

I got local the Marlin 2061 and set up a git local branch with a few commits. Then I tried to merge the remote Marlin 2.xxx with my local branch and puffff all the .h blowing in the wind (like the answer my friend is blowing in the wind  ).

[Zucca]

This little bastard stainless steel nozzle(s). I'd swapped one in thinking my original brass one was clogged. When I rebuilt with the MicroSwiss, I put this nozzle on it because it was one of the ones that came

My take away: 3D Printing is always a patience game, part of the much bigger Humans vs Machines war.
Machines win only if we give up.

[mnementh]

One thing my recent 1st layer adhesion issues have actually been a boon with: Yesterday I got through 4 iterations of the design because it printed just enough of the part to allow some test-fitting before coming off the bed. Currently on rev4.1...

mnem
 

[mnementh]

Some progress... and ~$1.50 worth of filament wasted. A clone build-tak that came with a spool of filament resolved my adhesion issues, as well as giving a nice sandstone finish to the front of the piece. However, after successfully printing a nosepiece, I found it had a couple fitment errors that required some severe modification to the design. While I beat Frustion360 into submission, I set the printer to work on another tailpiece.

In the morning, I'll see how my new design behaves.

If only I'd noticed that my design was ~8mm too short to fit while I had all those truncated bits in my hand...

mnem

[mnementh]

         

It sure is nice when the iterative part of Iterative Design actually works. 

While trimming up this tailpiece, I was struck with an idea for an all-new design which might actually do some muffler-ey action. Currently printing up a new nosepiece; now on Rev5.1.

mnem

[SilverSolder]

You realize you could have probably carved that part out of alabaster with a knife, by now? 

[mnementh]

You realize you could have probably carved that part out of alabaster with a knife, by now? 

Not 6 copies of 2 pieces (plus a dozen revisions) I couldn't. 

mnem
 

[mnementh]

              

Sound level is noticeably decreased with both endpieces... but I am still working on a new tailpiece design which is more similar in style to the nosepiece. Hopefully it will also be a bit mo quiet-ahh.

mnem
 

[xrunner]

So for an exciting start to the day, I downloaded and compiled Marlin 2.0.7.2 (yesterday the available file was 2.0.7.1). I did a compare between my configs for 2.0.6.1 and the new versions. I changed the appropriate parameters from my previous configs. I performed a mesh bed levelling, did a couple of test prints, and all was well.

There were not a whole lot of differences this time, but always a few. For example (if anyone is interested) they changed the PID portion a little bit as you can see below. In the new file they show an example of a list of PID parameters if you are using more than one hotend, and removed several different settings for some printer models. In the new file there is simply the PID parameters for the printer you are using (whatever it is). The PID parameters you see are for my Creality Ender-3 printer from running a PID tune, not the ones that came with the file. 

OLD (2.0.6.1)

#if ENABLED(PIDTEMP)
  #define PID_EDIT_MENU         // Add PID editing to the "Advanced Settings" menu. (~700 bytes of PROGMEM)
  #define PID_AUTOTUNE_MENU     // Add PID auto-tuning to the "Advanced Settings" menu. (~250 bytes of PROGMEM)
  //#define PID_PARAMS_PER_HOTEND // Uses separate PID parameters for each extruder (useful for mismatched extruders)
                                  // Set/get with gcode: M301 E[extruder number, 0-2]

  // If you are using a pre-configured hotend then you can use one of the value sets by uncommenting it

// Creality Ender-3                           
  #define DEFAULT_Kp 23.75
  #define DEFAULT_Ki 1.76
  #define DEFAULT_Kd 79.96                     

  // Ultimaker
  //#define DEFAULT_Kp 22.2
  //#define DEFAULT_Ki 1.08
  //#define DEFAULT_Kd 114

  // MakerGear
  //#define DEFAULT_Kp 7.0
  //#define DEFAULT_Ki 0.1
  //#define DEFAULT_Kd 12

  // Mendel Parts V9 on 12V
  //#define DEFAULT_Kp 63.0
  //#define DEFAULT_Ki 2.25
  //#define DEFAULT_Kd 440

#endif // PIDTEMP

NEW (2.0.7.2)

#if ENABLED(PIDTEMP)
  #define PID_EDIT_MENU         // Add PID editing to the "Advanced Settings" menu. (~700 bytes of PROGMEM)
  #define PID_AUTOTUNE_MENU     // Add PID auto-tuning to the "Advanced Settings" menu. (~250 bytes of PROGMEM)
  //#define PID_PARAMS_PER_HOTEND // Uses separate PID parameters for each extruder (useful for mismatched extruders)
                                  // Set/get with gcode: M301 E[extruder number, 0-2]

  #if ENABLED(PID_PARAMS_PER_HOTEND)
    // Specify between 1 and HOTENDS values per array.
    // If fewer than EXTRUDER values are provided, the last element will be repeated.
    #define DEFAULT_Kp_LIST {  22.20,  22.20 }
    #define DEFAULT_Ki_LIST {   1.08,   1.08 }
    #define DEFAULT_Kd_LIST { 114.00, 114.00 }
  #else
       
    #define DEFAULT_Kp  23.75
    #define DEFAULT_Ki   1.76
    #define DEFAULT_Kd 79.96
  #endif

[mnementh]

My balls still ache.

mnem
that is all.