How do You Measure Up In Real Life (Adult Only)

[Mechatrommer]

ok this may sound a bit (or a lot) funny, simply put, its about dick size. but i would like to take this as open minded. and i got bored since not much going on here... and i know, its way off topic, but hey, we still can see electronics sexual stimulating devices out there, so i believe there will be some correlations, prospects or studies to be made. now dont make any stupid assumption, i've not stated the purpose of this thread yet, and its not a spam, and spammers in enlargement devices etc are highly unwelcomed! and hopefully banned by the persons who have the right.

IF YOU FEEL THIS IS FUNNY THEN LEAVE, WHETHER YOU ARE STILL KID OR JUST SIMPLY IGNORANT, I DONT CARE, I DONT NEED YOU, ITS ONLY MEANT FOR OPEN MINDED ADULT WHO WANT TO KNOW THE REAL FACTS AND TO CONTRIBUTE!

so what is this all about? no! i'm not going to ask how do you measure up or even mine, and i'm not going to ask whats the effective way to increase the measurement. and i dont want to listen to suggestions that this device is ok, that method is highly recommended, this pills will do miracles, fuck that! the fact existed in the net are highly unreliable and contageous. but this is the real fact that lies within "most" men's heart that they think they are "below the average", its the men's problem. i know not all, but some... including you know who? (WAS! not anymore!). one example up to the point that men are willing to spends thousands of dollars and what they get is smaller deformed mutilated dysfunctional dick (or in medical term... penis) here...

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/printthread.php?t=103231&page=38&pp=15 (you can read the whole thread, or start from page 38 or something to get the idea)

this thread is one example or source that we can rely since it involved many people discussing in the forum, the people like us, normal people, not some marketing crap. the thread expanded around 6 years time of good information/story/rant, indeed in the thread, the admin of the (another.. mynewsize iirc) enlargement site were slammed so badly no matter how he tried to back himself up who tried to disguise in several nicknames. so my point is, a "reliable discussion and fact in the net" about this matter.

if you google "is size does matter" you'll see alot of hypes than facts exist. even there's some fact that girls stated that it should be 8-10" to be pleasurable? what?! even with my "average size" is enough to make a women cry in pain (on some occasions), now a godzilla try to crash some caves ripped apart, you want to call that pleasurable? what a BULLSHIT! so i hope this thread will deliver as another reliable platform for other searchers with "down size syndrome" so they dont fall prey. dont mention the statistics, they are out there, with numbers, some reliable, some (most) will only want to let you down. got my point? ask if its still not clear, i think i typed too long already, now to the "question in matter" or "matter in question", the real question is....

from your PERSONAL experience, to the person you know (friends, girls, pscyhiatrists, doctors etc), not the net BS crap... do you really ever encountered that "girls really need the bigger the better" issue?

coz from my experience... never! its all about how you communicate, your appearance and confidence, and most importantly among all, how big is your pocket! nothing got to do with the thing in the middle down there. you spend thousands on enlargement program will just shrink your pocket, which will defeat the purpose! and it also will be interesting if you know someone who really take this matter too seriously. ... any thought? real life experience?... well as i said... boring time please keep this thread informative, not trying to deviate people's mind, with acceptable level of "sense of humor" and i will honour your trust and "good and reliable" information sharing.

[Kiriakos-GR]

Personally never bothered me this specific subject, I have one so strong personalty that I get all my high grades from it.

But I have one unknown word ...  how in earth you can describe the quality of the DMM probes by saying..  SEX in a stick !! 
 

[AntiProtonBoy]

Impossible to post in this thread without a laugh.

I don't necessarily like quoting Wikipedia, but this entry seems like a good starting point for your research. More importantly, look at the references listed down below. Particularly this entry:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC33342/?tool=pmcentrez

[Mechatrommer]

as i said, this is not research thread where you want to show statistics. you can do your own research outside, once you mastered it, pls post your finding here, based on your intuition and "real life", not from what you get online. this thread is meant for "accomplished", not keyboard warrior.
edit: and fyi, i've assumed the girth and length are the same to me, sum it up as "size" or "volume". you can argue all you like, but please argue outside, thats newbie stuffs. that johnson experiment or anything you heard, again... online, still too vague to draw exact conclusion, and some commercial site will likely to use that fact as their twisted propaganda or info.

[Mechatrommer]

SEX in a stick!!

another commonly heard term... pencil neck!

[Alex]

[Simon]

that's a long one you have their darling, pity about the girdth

[Simon]

I'm not fussed about size, I've had the same girl call it both "huge" and "has it shrunk" on different occasions

[Alex]

that's a long one you have their darling, pity about the girdth

You should see it fire. Proper 'bombshell'.

[Mechatrommer]

I've had the same girl call it both "huge" and "has it shrunk" on different occasions

well, does size matter? Alex, that one... ouch! a torture device.

[Simon]

I've had the same girl call it both "huge" and "has it shrunk" on different occasions

well, does size matter?

I don't know we never got far enough for her to tell me 

[AntiProtonBoy]

Mechatrommer, you sound a bit defensive and high strung about something... did you get too many negative feedback from your partners and need validation? What's the deal?

as i said, this is not research thread where you want to show statistics. you can do your own research outside, once you mastered it, pls post your finding here, based on your intuition and "real life", not from what you get online. this thread is meant for "accomplished", not keyboard warrior.
edit: and fyi, i've assumed the girth and length are the same to me, sum it up as "size" or "volume". you can argue all you like, but please argue outside, thats newbie stuffs. that johnson experiment or anything you heard, again... online, still too vague to draw exact conclusion, and some commercial site will likely to use that fact as their twisted propaganda or info.

What on earth are you talking about? Why are you so hell bent on obtaining subjective opinion from a few selected people, as opposed to paying attention objective analysis done by peer reviewed research institutions? Subjective comments posted on a random internet thread hardly reflects reality in the wider context. Sample size is not only your problem, but there is bias. You are asking blokes to comment about their own junk... as if that's going to give you a reliable and trustworthy feedback.

Furthermore, the mere fact that you assume girth and length to be the same thing shows that you are somewhat misguided. Also don't confuse research done by reputable organisation with "research" done by a corporate entity, a glossy magazine, porn sites and all that trash. If you want me to sum up what really matters in the reputable surveys conducted, on average women seem to prefer girth over length. And guess what? These findings appear to correlate with the general comments made by women in my own social circle. But for the most part, they don't care too much either way, except maybe how you use it.

[Simon]

on average women seem to prefer girth over length. And guess what? These findings appear to correlate with the general comments made by women in my own social circle. But for the most part, they don't care too much either way, except maybe how you use it.

This is true and is because pleasure is sensed by nerves (nerve endings to be exact) and both men and women have a high concentration of nerve ending in their genitalia. In the case of men most of it is in the penis head and hence it's sensitivity. in a woman it is in the clitoris and labia but NOT much inside their vagina so length over a minimum requirement does very little for them, girth however does much more as it means there is more there to do the job where it will be felt.

If you really want to discuss this in detail or see others discussions about it check out the forums at www.sexinfo101.com it is a sensible website offering help and advice and a lively forum full of educated and informative discussion suited even for children where applicable (if the 14 year old is doing it then best make sure they are informed as thy'll do it anyhow). a number of it's members are from the medical profession and do a great job.

[Zero999]

Lol, size doesn't matter too much. If your penis is too small for her just do more oral and fingering. You don't need to use your dick at all to bring her to orgasm so it's not important.

The average man only takes 2 to 3 minutes to cum and orgasm, after which the erection is normally lost but it takes a typical woman 20 to 30 minutes so you've got little chance of doing it with your penis alone. The best way to please a women sexually is to make her orgasm first before having full vaginal sex with her. There are plenty of women who've never had an orgasm before purely because their partner doesn't know this.

[ToBeFrank]

Lol, size doesn't matter too much. If your penis is too small for her just do more oral and fingering. You don't need to use your dick at all to bring her to orgasm so it's not important.

Sorry, but this is what women tell men to make them feel better. Would you be happy just getting hand jobs?

[Zero999]

Lol, size doesn't matter too much. If your penis is too small for her just do more oral and fingering. You don't need to use your dick at all to bring her to orgasm so it's not important.

Sorry, but this is what women tell men to make them feel better. Would you be happy just getting hand jobs?

Women and men think very differently when it comes to sex so that's a silly thing to say but answer the question hand jobs no but I often prefer a blowjob to full sex. It depends on the women though.

It also works both ways: if your cock is too small to give her an orgasm you're unlikely to have one from full sex as she won't be tight enough to stimulate you properly.

Lol, people will think I've got a small knob because I seem to know a bit about it, oh well I don't care. I know I'm at least average size so that's the main thing.

[Alex]

Going all the way back (and what a long way it is) to the OP, what I have gathered is that it is perceived the same way you would perceive breast size.

[AntiProtonBoy]

Maybe Dave can shed some light on this in his next vblog... he knows everything! lol

[Mechatrommer]

i believe if a man cannot satisfy a women, they have micropenis syndrom, i dont know maybe 2-3" erect? definitely way below average, and i think need medical treatment. but one syndrome usually hit the guys is they think they are "below average" but in fact they are normal. the problem lies in our own (men's) belief. but i dont know what women think about our tool. now lets look at women's syndrom, nowadays, more and more are getting breast silicone implant to make their boobs larger, because women think their breast size are below average, or maybe they want to be super woman. first the porn actress, now normal people are infected by the desease. but for me, the implant will make it worst, i feel like disgusting or feel sorry for them, because i prefer the original, even if its smaller than average (as long as there's volume in it), we/i want to fondle breast, not silicone the same thing, if the down there is too tight, then its no good, will ejaculate faster and can harm our pee pee. i never saw the hole so big that cannot do the firm grip, they either got desease and need medical treatment, or they are really slut who prefer godzilla size, not the type we want to be our partner. "average size" or "regularly or normally used" is just right imho. now this misconception that makes the "plastic surgery" become richer and richer. for what? i believe its something with human ego. man to man ego and woman to woman ego. but when it comes to man to woman or woman to man, its a real misconception. i will reject the one with silicone breast.

well... all in all... knowledge does matter!

[Mechatrommer]

Maybe Dave can shed some light on this in his next vblog... he knows everything! lol

i think his appetite is too high, he needs "wonder" woman, not the average woman

[Zero999]

Somehow I think men are more bothered about women's breast size than women are about the size of men's penises.

The problem is that most straight men haven't seen other men's erect penises except those of porn stars who have larger than average penises. The proportion of heterosexual men who have penis enlargements is greater than that of gay men.

Women have similar issues with their vaginas because they don't know what's normal.

[ToBeFrank]

No offense, but saying this...

Women and men think very differently when it comes to sex

Proves to me that you really don't know women that well. Hopefully someday you'll get some candid answers from women. You'll find out they're really not so different than us when it comes to sex.

[Mechatrommer]

No offense, but saying this...

Women and men think very differently when it comes to sex

Proves to me that you really don't know women that well. Hopefully someday you'll get some candid answers from women. You'll find out they're really not so different than us when it comes to sex.

i think some point to what hero said. man can get aroused easily by looking at a naked woman (unless maybe if you got used to see it everyday or really not in the mood), but woman can easily offended if you take off your cloth in front of them for no reason. the way that we should approach sex upon them is very different (foreplay is crucial part in their sex life) but for men, heck! we just want to score no matter what. in other word, men are more slut than women come on guys we know this is a fact. but orgasm is another matter, both men and women will feel the same, ie feel good! but women proven to be more capable in this matter, where us guys will surrender on the first score so i suggest let the women win first, let them score as much as they can before us making our golden and only one goal.

[Alex]

All of this is also down to the person, but as a mean:

woman can easily offended if you take off your cloth in front of them for no reason.

So they say...

we just want to score no matter what. in other word, men are more slut than women come on guys we know this is a fact.

A fair comparison would be what the man and woman think, not what they do. Under these conditions I think women get the first prize.

[ToBeFrank]

men are more slut than women come on guys we know this is a fact.

Guys who have been with a lot of women know better.

[Mechatrommer]

Guys who have been with a lotof women know better.

women who have been with a lotof guys know better.
imo sociology and lifestyle differences between countries and people also affecting the perspective. women becoming more open minded as they have more sexual intercourse, but always (or mostly) guys catch up earlier. once they (women) are acquainted, then they can give us some answers. they even only laugh or say "wow" if you strip naked infront of them. who dont like sex then they are stupid or got some syndrome. i agree, guys who have been with a lotof women know better. some reliable answer are welcomed.

[ToBeFrank]

women who have been with a lotof guys know better.

Exactly. They're just as slutty as men.

[Zero999]

The slutty thing is debatable but men generally have a higher sex drive than women.

I suppose my point was that men are more visually stimulated than women, for example most porn is targeted at a male audience, be it heterosexual or homosexual and women make more of an effort to look good than men do. The difference is women don't care what your dick looks like as long as it's clean and does the job where as men can be more easily put off if the woman looks bad naked.

[Psi]

...women make more of an effort to look good...

Yeah, but mostly to feel better about themselves.
We don't care as much about it as they think we do.

[DrGeoff]

Maybe Dave can shed some light on this in his next vblog... he knows everything! lol

You know what they say at the EEVBLOG,
Don't turn her on, take her apart!

[ToBeFrank]

men generally have a higher sex drive than women.

Disagreed.

The difference is women don't care what your dick looks like as long as it's clean and does the job

Lol, oh grasshopper, you have so much to learn.

[Zero999]

men generally have a higher sex drive than women.

Disagreed.

What proportion of women commit sexual crimes compared with men?

How many women employ the services of prostitutes compared with men?

Proves to me that you really don't know women that well. Hopefully someday you'll get some candid answers from women.

And you do? How do you know the women who you've discussed this with are telling you the truth?

Fair point you could ask me the same question. We don't know whether women are telling us the truth or not.

[ToBeFrank]

What proportion of women commit sexual crimes compared with men?

How many women employ the services of prostitutes compared with men?

Seriously??? This is your logic? How many women have you raped? None? Does that mean you don't have a high sex drive?

And you do?

Yes, I do.

[AntiProtonBoy]

What proportion of women commit sexual crimes compared with men?

Strength aside, it's actually more difficult for a woman physically rape a man... for obvious reasons. Although drugs could technically solve that these days, but still not very practical approach for our would-be female rapist. But the higher statistics for men could be due to other factors, such as aggression, etc.

How many women employ the services of prostitutes compared with men?

Most sex workers are in it, not because of the men, but because they actually really like doing it.

That said, people perceive a difference of sex drive between genders, probably because of the methods each gender uses for seeking out a partner. Men usually have no qualms about sleeping with randoms and are quite happy to advertise their conquests to the whole world; whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners and perhaps gossip about it amongst themselves... who knows what else goes on in those club bathrooms. But that does not imply that women are less demanding in the bedroom.

[Zero999]

The reason why men generally have a higher sex drive is obvious: women can only become pregnant once every 9 months by which time a single man could potentially impregnate 100s of women. It's the same all over the animal kingdom.

[AntiProtonBoy]

That assessment is poor. Sure, one could say that the menstrual cycle and pregnancy does influence a woman's libido. However, unlike other animal species, sexual activity in human females is not bounded by their fertility and their pregnancy. (To further counter your argument, some women are actually more sexually active during pregnancy, due to changes in their hormone levels!) Sex in humans has developed beyond a reproductive role, it now also has a social role; which means, both genders must participate equally for that to happen. If you look at the numbers, if men's libido is greatly disproportionate compared to women, then what on earth are those men screwing out there?

[Mechatrommer]

men generally have a higher sex drive than women.

Disagreed.

The difference is women don't care what your dick looks like as long as it's clean and does the job

Lol, oh grasshopper, you have so much to learn.

maybe you live in very different "girls community" than ours. care to tell your location? i may give you a visit someday

It's the same all over the animal kingdom.

there's one kind of insect, cant recall what. the female will eat the male after their love making, bloody hell if it happen to us. male will make the first move, female will do the disaster later. some morale.

Strength aside, it's actually more difficult for a woman physically rape a man... for obvious reasons.

the reason maybe because it will turn into love making instead of rape, if it really ever happen, so case closed. i only heard female teacher raped their male student, small boy who maybe still know nothing about sex.

But the higher statistics for men could be due to other factors, such as aggression, etc.

that means, statistically, men have more aggression toward sex?

Most sex workers are in it, not because of the men, but because they actually really like doing it.

no, its because of money, they dont give a fuck about orgasm, they can get it everyday if they want to. could you reach orgasm fucking an old lady? no, its not fun.

whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners

i very agree with this one.

[Zero999]

whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners

i very agree with this one.

And they tend to select on the basis of other qualities than appearance.

[ToBeFrank]

That said, people perceive a difference of sex drive between genders, probably because of the methods each gender uses for seeking out a partner. Men usually have no qualms about sleeping with randoms and are quite happy to advertise their conquests to the whole world; whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners and perhaps gossip about it amongst themselves... who knows what else goes on in those club bathrooms. But that does not imply that women are less demanding in the bedroom.

I couldn't have said it better. Society dictates they keep it quiet and amongst their good friends because otherwise they're "sluts". Us men don't suffer the same stigma. Women will feed you the standard bullshit, unless they see you "get it", and then they'll tell you the real story because they don't have to be worried about being judged.

[Psi]

That said, people perceive a difference of sex drive between genders, probably because of the methods each gender uses for seeking out a partner. Men usually have no qualms about sleeping with randoms and are quite happy to advertise their conquests to the whole world; whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners and perhaps gossip about it amongst themselves... who knows what else goes on in those club bathrooms. But that does not imply that women are less demanding in the bedroom.

Yeah.
Quite often the differences between men and women are quite opposite and the reverse of each other.

eg,

A girl will feel betrayed if her guy tells others about what they did in bed last night (physical stuff) but won't feel betrayed if her partner tells others about what she 'talked' about in bed last night (emotional stuff) in fact she will often gossip about this stuff with her friends.

On the other side, a guy is exactly the opposite.

Couldn't care less if his girl tells other people about the physical part of their sex life, in fact would encourage it. But would get quite annoyed if she started telling others about any of his emotions or feelings which he told her about.


Of course everyone is different and it's not a rule, just an observation of averages.

[AntiProtonBoy]

that means, statistically, men have more aggression toward sex?

Well, men engage in more risk taking, tend to become more aggressive in certain situations, so one could imply that incidents of rape can be partially attributed to that.

no, its because of money, they dont give a fuck about orgasm, they can get it everyday if they want to. could you reach orgasm fucking an old lady? no, its not fun.

You'd be surprised! People generally don't engage in things that is completely repulsive for them, unless they are impoverished, have a drug dependency, desperate, or whatever. But that's not always the case in the adult industry. Sex workers in affluent societies actually treat prostitution as a profession, and they are doing this because they love it. Same thing can be said for the porn industry.

[Time]

You can't make that part of your body grow anymore than you could make any other part of your body grow once you hit a certain age.  It is what it is.

On the notion that size matters....

I don't really have trouble with women and from my experience it doesn't really matter.  The ones who want gigantic men are probably not worth keeping around permanently.  It probably means they have been around the block a few times and don't have the mental stability for a relationship.

But honestly who wouldn't want an extra inch (2.54 cm) or two?  Whether or not a woman desires it it would still definitely help boost the confidence and masculine ego which in turn can help you with your romantic situations.  but there is a such thing as too big.  Especially if girls you are into are petite.

[Mechatrommer]

But honestly who wouldn't want an extra inch (2.54 cm) or two?

if you are too long, then you cannot use "in" all the length, you'll hit cervix and thats not good. girth however can wet a woman quite quickly. but if you premature ejaculate due to high friction, then thats not good as well. your skill may vary.

You can't make that part of your body grow anymore than you could make any other part of your body grow once you hit a certain age.  It is what it is.

virtually there is. the proc similar to boobs, silicone implant. but you'll risk dysfunctional unusable dick such as this... (beware girls, adult medical material )

http://videosift.com/video/Man-spends-6-years-injecting-silicone-into-his-PENIS?k=1314636394:a6488c26262a47e87162617a208d2355

[Zero999]

That said, people perceive a difference of sex drive between genders, probably because of the methods each gender uses for seeking out a partner. Men usually have no qualms about sleeping with randoms and are quite happy to advertise their conquests to the whole world; whereas women tend to be more selective about their partners and perhaps gossip about it amongst themselves... who knows what else goes on in those club bathrooms.

That's true to some extent but there are some differences between men and women which run far deeper than that.

But that does not imply that women are less demanding in the bedroom.

You're right about that. In fact women are more work because it takes them far longer to reach orgasm than men so it takes a lot more work to satisfy their needs.

[Mechatrommer]

You're right about that. In fact women are more work because it takes them far longer to reach orgasm than men so it takes a lot more work to satisfy their needs.

no. its because they dont work at all, they wait for us to satisfy them. so we usually hit the wrong spot. if they do the work on top, it will be faster for them, and we can relax watching tv as a distraction... my theory.

[MrPlacid]

You're right about that. In fact women are more work because it takes them far longer to reach orgasm than men so it takes a lot more work to satisfy their needs.

no. its because they dont work at all, they wait for us to satisfy them. so we usually hit the wrong spot. if they do the work on top, it will be faster for them, and we can relax watching tv as a distraction... my theory.

Ever since I was little, I saw this as an example of evolution. If the female animals finished first she'll pull out and walk away thus reducing the chance of getting impregnation.  So the males that tend to finish first and the females finished last are favored by evolution.

[Zero999]

I thought women take longer than men because it's nature's way of getting them to favour more patient fathers who'll better nurture their offspring. If she enjoys sex more with a certain man, there's more chance she'll do it again and again. There's evidence to suggest that the orgasm helps impregnation as sex is more effective at producing offspring than artificial insemination.

[MrPlacid]

Think of lives living in the caves.

Back then women often didn't have a choice to pick their partner. Barbaric males often rape or force their way on the females. In the past there wasn't much abortion either, if they get pregnant it was no turning back. All that require was to fertilize the egg and run away.

As we move to the middle ages, the scenario change slightly. The females would be bored if a guy took too long, while she finished long ago. So guys can't evolved to be last finisher. She probably would not waste time with that guy again. But if she get knock up by the guy who finished first, even though she regret it, she got pregnated!

Of course, this isn't the only route evolution took or else the females would have no desire for sex. Love evolved in parallel. But keep in mind of our male disgraceful past.

[Zero999]

Maybe you should rethink that?

The human genome has changed little since the stone age/ If wehat you're saying is true then it should be purely physical sixe and strength that women go for but it doesn't seem to be the case.

[MrPlacid]

If what I said is true, the reason male finishes first is because of evolution. It has nothing to do with women being lazy in bed.

Think of the women as your left hand that supports something while the right hand is the male counterpart that does the intricate work. It's like holding a writing board while the right hand writes. If the left hand got tired and leave first, then the right hand can't finished his handiwork. So, it must be that the right hand finishes first.

What I meant about strength is that women back then in the cave society didn't have much of a choice picking male. The stronger male, when he is horny, most likely forced his way on her. Thus impregnating her. However, that doesn't meant she like aggressive males.

The human genome might have change little. But just a slight difference can change everything. Take for example, the lip. (I am guessing here) Notice that in some groups of people that when they talk you see most of their teeth while in a different group you see a portion of their teeth. Result, the prior group has whiter teeth than the second and it's not because they have different teeth. The lip that cover more of the teeth actually kept the moisture on the teeth longer allowing bacteria to grow at a better rate thus staining the teeth.

It's gonna be hard for me to rethink. I have always thought this was how it happen since I was little.

[Mechatrommer]

Ever since I was little, I saw this as an example of evolution. If the female animals finished first she'll pull out and walk away thus reducing the chance of getting impregnation.  So the males that tend to finish first and the females finished last are favored by evolution.

the ideology of male first female last is wrong imho. once men reach orgasm, they will go flaccid quickly afterward (unable to penetrate) in most cases, so there will be little chance of getting the women reach orgasm. but when men let women finish first, then you can make to the finish line very quickly, you are doing the job remember? and since men are naturally "fast performer". she's just lying flat there. and her tool will be still good to go as long as you (or her will) want it.

dont mention handjob, its out of question, in other word if we want to cheat orgasm (i mean getting orgasm without using genitalia) , thats an easy thing to do for both men and women and vagina will contract and grip firmer at some duration just before and after female orgasm, this will help men to orgasm faster, ideally at the same time or quickly after women orgasm, but if male is too fast, then this can leave an emotion problem to the female. and with proper technique, you wont bored her after her 1st orgasm, you can move on to the 2nd, 3rd etc until its worn out. dont compare animal with human, from my observation they are not the same, take for example cat (you know how). about impregnation... cum outside! if you dont want.

[MrPlacid]

It's not about getting the woman to reach orgasm. It's all about getting the woman pregnant and passing on one's gene. The reason for one's existence is to reproduce, not to please the woman.

It is the guy's orgasm that the sperm is released into her. Her orgasm takes longer so that he has time to do the deed.
Let me put some electronic stuff in here before this forum goes way of topic.

key:
!=orgasm
m=male
f=female
+v on f= window in which legs are spread.

(A)
m_____!____________________
                                    _
                              _____|*|______
     ___________!                  |_|fertilization
f___|           |__________


(B)
m_____________________!____

     ___________!             ______________
f___|           |__________


(C)
m_____!____!_____!_____!___
                                    _
                              _____|*|______
     ___________!                  |_|fertilization
f___|           |__________

(B) is unfavored by evolution. My scenario (A) and yours (C) both resulted in possible fertilization and show that finish first m is present. In the case of (C), the m signal acts like the set switch in SR latch circuit

[Mechatrommer]

B should be able to fertilize as well, if the m_! is inside +v later than f_!
and you forgot case (D) where f__ with no !, still fertilize, just as your barbarian example.
off topic? its been OT already from men's size -> orgasm -> fertilization.
or maybe to put it another way... no matter what size you are, you will be able to fertilize, as long as your sperms are healthy.

[ToBeFrank]

about impregnation... cum outside! if you dont want.

Pulling out does not prevent pregnancy.

[Mechatrommer]

about impregnation... cum outside! if you dont want.

Pulling out does not prevent pregnancy.

true but i'm not the father.

[MrPlacid]

B should be able to fertilize as well, if the m_! is inside +v later than f_!
and you forgot case (D) where f__ with no !, still fertilize, just as your barbarian example.

Sorry if my example wasn't clear.

     ___________         
f___|           |__________
  
               /|\
                |
                |
             0v = legs are closed
             (mating has ended)                

if (m.orgasm & f.legSpread)          //only 2 requirements
   f.cries("I might get pregnant);  //f.orgasm is irrevalent

else if (m.orgasm & !f.legSpread)
   m.isMasturbating();

--edit--
I hope this clears it up

[Mechatrommer]

yes i realized that after i made the earlier post... you forgot...

(D)
m_____________!____________
                                    _
                              _____|*|______
     ____!______                   |_|fertilization
f___|           |__________


(D)
m_____________!____________
                                    _
                              _____|*|______
     ___________                   |_|fertilization
f___|           |__________


(E)
m___________________!_____
                   /                _
                  /           _____|*|______
     ___________<- (slip in)       |_|fertilization
f___|           |__________