New movie about bullshit green stuff.

[PKTKS]

A critical response to that "documentary"

Thanks for the info..

 Actually IMHO some pretty basic stuff will be prevalent:

- No (zero none) politician will ever win elections saying that he will
  really do what should be done against overpopulation and over-consumption

- Rather the opposite a pretty large mass of people rely on these "green" jobs
as the automation and lack of self sustained economy is more and more obvious


So.. I already expect ZERO impact of required draconian methods
and actually an accelerated waste of resource will be deployed
somewhere somehow from now..

I am not any inclined to actually think a single bit of change in
the actual "way of luxury life"  mega cities are imposing...

Paul 

[sandalcandal]

Thanks for the info..

 Actually IMHO some pretty basic stuff will be prevalent:

- No (zero none) politician will ever win elections saying that he will
  really do what should be done against overpopulation and over-consumption

- Rather the opposite a pretty large mass of people rely on these "green" jobs
as the automation and lack of self sustained economy is more and more obvious


So.. I already expect ZERO impact of required draconian methods
and actually an accelerated waste of resource will be deployed
somewhere somehow from now..

I am not any inclined to actually think a single bit of change in
the actual "way of luxury life"  mega cities are imposing...

Paul 

Fantastic. Glad to know it had an impact on you 

IMHO the politics around climate action, particularly massive disinformation campaigns by those with a vested interest against effective action are a huge barrier against getting what should be done, done.

Some more videos that might interest you (still somewhat related to OP topic)


All from the same person but hopefully his presentation style gels with you if his response to "Planet of the Humans" did.

[Quarlo Klobrigney]

Ye canna trust annethin froom a man with flat window pane spectacles.

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All from the same person but hopefully his presentation style gels with you if his response to "Planet of the Humans" did.

[voltsandjolts]

Some interesting comments and videos here, thanks.

While fossil fuels have accelerated the development and growth of human society,
the environment has paid a heavy price, and continues to do so. I do wish fossil fuels
had never existed. Many wars would have been avoided, industrialisation would
have been more difficult, plastic wouldn't be killing the oceans. Society would have
progressed at a slower but perhaps more sustainable pace, with enforced development
of green energy sources (or maybe we would have just burned all the forests).

I take some solace in the belief that this predicament was inevitable. The conditions on
our planet gave life the chance to flourish for eons, simultaneously creating an amazing
web of life, and a vast store of carbon capable of destroying much of it - fossil fuels. Any
dextrous intelligent life form would gain a thirst for energy and eventually discover and
exploit fossil fuels just as we Homo sapiens have.

Hopefully we are smart enough to put things right.

[f4eru]

They can wave their hands at it, but you won't see a seasoned career politician do anything meaningful about population reduction.

Nope. Has been done before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

even when China's rapid development is considered, its birth program since 1970 has already averted at least 600 million births, a number projected to grow to one billion or more by 2060 when one tallies the averted descendants of the births originally averted by policy.

Kinda works. Not nice, but necessary.
Softer measures are possible, and meaningful.

[Marco]

Softer measures are possible, and meaningful.

Nah, overpopulation is going to turn much of Africa into failed nations before climate change can make much of an impact.

Climate change might be the gigadeath problem to solve in this age, but overpopulation is the gigadeath problem to encounter in this age.

[NiHaoMike]

What about addressing the animal overpopulation problem first? In other words, rapidly phase out factory farming and replace it with sustainable farming.

[IDEngineer]

Timely article on CNN today: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/a-blinking-light-ahead-slowing-population-growth-raises-questions-about-america-as-a-land-with-unlimited-horizons/ar-BB1gxEif

The reason nobody seriously discusses population reduction is admitted right in the article: "Immigration is one way to keep the population growing at rates that will assure the economy has... enough tax revenue to underwrite the costs of government programs." Politicians are overpromising, and perpetuating the population Ponzi Scheme to keep those promises from imploding of their own weight.