Fluke 87 V C

[Wytnucls]

Currently in Shanghai. Came across a Chinese version of the Fluke 87 at the local Fluke outlet. Not much English spoken there. Does anybody know if it is any different from the US version?

[saturation]

Never heard.  Can you post pics?  Even if counterfeit it should be interesting.

[Wytnucls]

No. It is genuine. I suspect it is the same package, but made in China. Will try to find out tomorrow.

[Wytnucls]

In the meantime, here is picture of a display 18B with a see-through case.

[electr_peter]

In the meantime, here is picture of a display 18B with a see-through case.

LED test socket in top right? What is this?

[retiredcaps]

When I made these 2 posts regarding the "C" models on Feb 13, 2015

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/are-these-genuine-flukes/15/

there was no 87VC model shown on Fluke's website.

Now, there is.

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/cnzh/digital-multimeter/fluke-80-series-v-87v-83v-87v-e2-kit.htm?PID=56135

However, the stock photo used doesn't denote the "C".  There are pictures I found that have the "C" designation and are probably Made in China.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21271735279

[retiredcaps]

I suspect it is the same package, but made in China. Will try to find out tomorrow.

Can you get a picture of the grey backside?  The text will likely all be in Chinese, but maybe there will be a "Made in China" text?

Can you also check to see where the rubber holster was made?

If you see a Fluke 170C and 280C series, can you also check the back to confirm they are "Made in China"?

[AndyC_772]

there was no 87VC model shown on Fluke's website.

Now, there is.

Google Translate says, of the 87VC:

"87V / C Digital Multimeter very similar to the classic 87 digital multimeter, but have a stronger ability to solve problems, more secure, convenient and has better impact protection."

So... not exactly the same as the 87V?

[retiredcaps]

Google Translate says, of the 87VC:

"87V / C Digital Multimeter very similar to the classic 87 digital multimeter, but have a stronger ability to solve problems, more secure, convenient and has better impact protection."

So... not exactly the same as the 87V?

There are multiple versions of the 87.  The classic 87 series I.  The "unofficial" II where the CAT rating is shown on the meter front case.  The III. The 87IV which was later renamed the 187.  And finally the V.

The translation above when comparing the classic 87 to the 87V C would be correct with respect to more features and robustness.

There may be an upgraded revision board inside the Fluke 87V C compared to the 87V?  Hopefully, pcb pictures will show up soon of the 87V C.

[saturation]

Thanks Wytnucls.  That's a scoop for reporting.  You're breaking the news, AFIAK.  Any search engine I try brings up this thread.  It'll be interesting to post whatever you find on it, brochures, more photos.

No. It is genuine. I suspect it is the same package, but made in China. Will try to find out tomorrow.

Nice find.  Converted to dollars its nearly the same price as US 87V.  I tried a full taobao search and came up with other vendors also with similar prices.

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/cnzh/digital-multimeter/fluke-80-series-v-87v-83v-87v-e2-kit.htm?PID=56135

However, the stock photo used doesn't denote the "C".  There are pictures I found that have the "C" designation and are probably Made in China.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21271735279

[saturation]

Thanks.  Is it pretty humid there?  That case has got a lot of moisture inside.

In the meantime, here is picture of a display 18B with a see-through case.

[Wytnucls]

Thanks.  Is it pretty humid there?  That case has got a lot of moisture inside.

In the meantime, here is picture of a display 18B with a see-through case.

Not really. The shop is air-conditioned. Lots of reflections as the meter is in a glass cabinet.

[Wytnucls]

In the meantime, here is picture of a display 18B with a see-through case.

LED test socket in top right? What is this?

While testing a LED, it will indicate the anode (+) leg by flashing a small indicator light under the right leg.
It might also work with other diodes, but I'm not sure yet.

[Wytnucls]

Had another look at the 87 VC.
All in Chinese on the back and the text says made in China. The rubber boot though, says made in the USA. Most of the boxes for these meters mention that the meters are not for sale outside China and that there is no warranty coverage outside of China.
It sells in China for about the same price as in the US.

[Wytnucls]

More pictures of Chinese models:
( I hadn't seen the Chinese Fluke 12E before)
http://www.fluke.com/fluke/cnzh/Digital-Multimeter/General-Purpose-Multimeters/Fluke-12E.htm?PID=56005

[Muttley Snickers]

Nice finds Wytnucls,

Are you able to find out approximately how much they are selling these models for, in what I assume is a chinese retail outlet, it might make for a good comparison to what they are asking on ebay or even western distributors for similar models.

In addition to yourself, we currently have a good man in China.

Muttley

[Muttley Snickers]

Had another look at the 87 VC.
All in Chinese on the back and the text says made in China. The rubber boot though, says made in the USA. Most of the boxes for these meters mention that the meters are not for sale outside China and that there is no warranty coverage outside of China.
It sells in China for about the same price as in the US.

Sorry, missed this post, sounds like pricing is similar, no warranty.


Muttley

[Wytnucls]

The 87V C sells for roughly the same price as the US model in the States, including the 17% sales tax in China. (2,460.00 Yuan)
I didn't price the others, but the same probably applies.
I don't know why Fluke decided to manufacture high-end models locally. The rising dollar may be a factor.

[Wytnucls]

I just checked the price. You can get a 87VC for 2020 CNY without VAT.

Feel free to not paying VAT. Almost nobody in China pays VAT, unless they want to deduct their tax.

Thanks, that's good to know. I'll see if it flies next time I buy from the Fluke rep in Shanghai.

[george graves]

Dave need to get a 87VC ASAP! 

[retiredcaps]

( I hadn't seen the Chinese Fluke 12E before)

I believe it is just a standard Fluke 15 rebranded for the Education/Engineer college/university market at possibly lower cost?

[Wytnucls]

It is certainly based on the 15B. Same features and specs.
Maybe only available for bulk buying, at a discounted price. I'll ask next time I'm in Shanghai.
'E' for 'Education" ?

[retiredcaps]

All in Chinese on the back and the text says made in China.

Found a picture of the back on taobao.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.112.iaE2Rv&id=41722904109&ns=1&abbucket=11#detail

If it says Made in China, I can't read Chinese.  Maybe someone can point it out?

[yozas]

Soo, is the 12E model better than 15B some way?

i see that 12E+ model has a backlight, 12E does not