The Stupids Want To Move To Daveland

[Sionyn]

a picture says a thousand words

[firewalker]

Who is she?

Alexander.

[SeanB]

Dumb bottle blonde?

[Excavatoree]

Um, someone I trust tells me  that the Prime Mister of Australia is neither a he, nor a Christian. 

 

[Mechatrommer]

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[sarcasm mode ON]well in todays world, women are equal to men. so he or she doesnt matter.

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[bullet308]

Though, firearms ownership is fairly widespread in Oz, point of fact...

[saturation]

Seems like her page is getting a lot of attention, its been pulled off twitter.  Here's the cache. 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9f57aoDL4owJ:https://twitter.com/KristenNeel_+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[DrGeoff]

No President here. There's a Monarch, but she lives on the other side of the world...

[EEVblog]

Um, someone I trust tells me  that the Prime Mister of Australia is neither a he, nor a Christian.

Or a President!
It gets worse though. Not only is he a she. She's an atheist, a redhead, unmarried, childless, and belives in global warming! 
It could only get better if she was a lesbian 

Dave.

[poptones]

You mean she's an unmarried atheist with no children and red hair and she's NOT a lesbian?

Are you sure?

[EEVblog]

You mean she's an unmarried atheist with no children and red hair and she's NOT a lesbian?
Are you sure?

Well, her partner is a hairdresser... 

Dave.

[poptones]

Uh huh. There ya go. She even has a beard. Definitely a fag hag

[AlfBaz]

Now there's a candidate for Nauru!!

[EEVblog]

Though, firearms ownership is fairly widespread in Oz, point of fact...

No, it's not, it's about 3% of our population.
Some more facts:
- We have no ingrained "gun culture".
- We have very tough gun ownership laws.
- We had a massive (and popular) compulsory gun buyback scheme, funded by the taxpayer by a tax levy.

Dave.

[mrflibble]

It gets worse though. Not only is he a she. She's an atheist, a redhead, unmarried, childless, and belives in global warming! 

How does believing in global warming constitute it getting worse? I also believe in global warming. And global cooling. And global warming. On a diurnal basis. Oh wait, that's local warming. Aaah screw it.

[ecat]

So now only the criminals have the guns?

Sounds about right, that's how you know they are criminals. Saves on a whole load of police work

[MikeK]

Australia doesn't have guns?  I thought they had guns, just weren't gonzo about it?

[Bored@Work]

So now only the criminals have the guns?

Oh no, the usual bullshit

No, strict gun laws don't ensure that only criminals have guns. Strict gun laws raise the bar for everyone, including the criminals. When you have strict gun laws the cost (monetary and in jail time) to illegally obtain a gun rises. It makes "the cost of doing business", if you want to call it that, more expensive for criminals.

At the same time the need for a criminal to own a gun is reduced, because the probability he'll meet armed resistance is going down.

The result is most criminals don't see a gun as an essential, affordable tool for the "business". It is no longer "a good investment" to help doing "the job".

[poptones]

Compulsory gun buyback? So you mean they took your guns but were nice enough to throw you a few bucks?

I don't understand why anyone would give up their gun to a government. I can see getting rid of your guns, say, if you get bored with them. Or if you get kids and no longer feel they're safe. Or if you're depressed and fear for your life.  But I cannot understand wny anyone would willingly surrender their guns to the government. I saw something like that about Katrina, the National Guard came in and took a lot of people's guns. Took them and never gave them back. I cannot understand those folks giving them up. If I had a collection of guns and the gov came knocking I'd leave before I'd give them up - just pack up my shit and leave town. But no way would I give them up.

And before you get to thinking stereotypes, I'm not a republican, don't live in the south (anymore) and am glad to be gone from there, not a racist nor do I smoke or chew tobacco and I voted for Obama - twice. Some of us are fair enough to see this for what it is: an issue of liberty, and making sure the government always fears the citizens (as a whole, not individuals) and not the other way around. There's a Billion Chinese in China - do you think those in charge fear them? Imagina a tianenmin square happening in the US... it would start a civil war. That's why we have "a gun culture."

[MikeK]

But guns are not intended to be a deterrent to tyranny.  The 2nd ammendment says they're to protect the country.  I don't understand why anyone would NOT want to give up their guns.  This isn't Somalia.

[tom66]

I don't know much about the US but in the UK we've got extremely strict gun laws. You can own certain types of shotgun I believe, but it's very difficult to get a license for it, and they're exclusively for hunting uses only.

We have a very low gun homicide rate. 0.2 per 100,000 from memory. US is around 5 per 100,000 (correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Monkeh]

I don't know much about the US but in the UK we've got extremely strict gun laws. You can own certain types of shotgun I believe, but it's very difficult to get a license for it, and they're exclusively for hunting uses only.

You can own a hell of a lot more than shotguns, including large calibre rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and even cannons. And you can use them for a lot more than hunting:

• Vermin control
• Clay pigeon shooting
• Various other forms of competition shooting
• Even simply maintaining a personal collection

But as usual, nobody knows the laws or anything else about firearms, except OMG GUNS ARE BAD THEY KILL PEOPLE.

[tom66]

Vermin control IS hunting.

What, you mean you don't cook your rats after blowing their guts out? 

But yes, gun usage is very restricted. Knives are proving a problem, at least according to the press. I don't know how much of a problem it actually is.

[EEVblog]

Australia doesn't have guns?  I thought they had guns, just weren't gonzo about it?

I just stated the approx figure.
About 3% of our population have registered guns (it's illegal (in all states) to have an unregistered one).
And a large percentage of those would be farmers who actually need one for a real purpose other than sport ogling/collecting.
It is also illegal in Oz to own a gun for the purpose of defending yourself.
It is also illegal to keep your gun loaded and not locked up.

Dave.

[Monkeh]

Vermin control IS hunting.

I disagree. The act and the intention are entirely unrelated to hunting.

But yes, gun usage is very restricted.

It is? You can shoot them. You can shoot anything you like with them, so long as it's not a person, it's legal to hunt or exterminate it, or it's yours and on your land. I don't really see any restrictions here beyond 'don't commit murder'. Ownership, however, is a different matter.

Knives are proving a problem, at least according to the press. I don't know how much of a problem it actually is.

Knives are only a 'problem' because some brain damaged judge decided that the vast majority of every day knives are illegal to have on your person, and the equally brain damaged police have decided that precedence is the same as written law. Beyond that, usage of them as weapons is pretty much the same as everywhere else.