Author Topic: New Agilent scopes (Read 381455 times)

elCap · « **Reply #500 on:** October 19, 2011, 06:06:33 am »

Yes, so for 2000x it's better to get some trail licenses, wind back the watch and enjoy them forever.

hacklordsniper · « **Reply #501 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:18:02 am »

Quote from: elCap on October 19, 2011, 06:06:33 am

Yes, so for 2000x it's better to get some trail licenses, wind back the watch and enjoy them forever.

Exactly. I have a real license files too and i tried copying headers and signatures to old trial licenses and various tricks but affcourse it does not work

_Sin · « **Reply #502 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:14:06 pm »

Just a quick note, for anyone with a 2000 series scope. I notice that in the 2.0 update, the license keys which existed for serial-decode options, are no longer present.

So far as I know, those keys could not be activated, though perhaps it could be done by some additional trick. However on cursory inspection, it seems that all references to this capability have been removed from the 2k scopes, perhaps also including any dormant code to make the features work (though presumably the bulk is still in there, as it is shared with the 3k).

I'm guessing Agilent are in no hurry to add this to the low end models.

I've not upgraded my scope just yet...

shadowless · « **Reply #503 on:** October 20, 2011, 12:15:23 am »

why they bother to call it 2.0 for the 2000x series, make sense for 3000x but not the 2000x update. No rant on this Dave?

joelby · « **Reply #504 on:** October 20, 2011, 12:33:08 am »

They're probably derived from the same code base, so the 2000x release might share other changes and updates. A new major version number doesn't necessarily mean that momentous new features have been added.

grenert · « **Reply #505 on:** October 20, 2011, 12:39:18 am »

There certainly doesn't seem to be any incentive for 2000 owners to update. At least the 3000 owners got a carrot for giving up exploitation of the trial licenses!

hacklordsniper · « **Reply #506 on:** October 20, 2011, 03:54:25 am »

Quote from: grenert on October 20, 2011, 12:39:18 am

At least the 3000 owners got a carrot for giving up exploitation of the trial licenses!

But we got arb funcionality for the FG

EEVblog · « **Reply #507 on:** October 20, 2011, 08:17:25 am »

Quote from: shadowless on October 20, 2011, 12:15:23 am

why they bother to call it 2.0 for the 2000x series, make sense for 3000x but not the 2000x update. No rant on this Dave?

Not really. It's probably the same code with the same bug fixes between them.
Makes complete sense to keep them at the same code revision level.

Dave.

shadowless · « **Reply #508 on:** October 20, 2011, 01:47:21 pm »

Quote from: EEVblog on October 20, 2011, 08:17:25 am

Not really. It's probably the same code with the same bug fixes between them.
Makes complete sense to keep them at the same code revision level.

I don't know. I suppose if you say it as just a pure technical change perhaps but then I wonder why a jump from 1.2 to 2.0. It has to mean something substantial even as a code change technically.

At least now a cripple ARB is added to be inline with the crippled scope mentality. Great crippled work Agilent

wsmith · « **Reply #509 on:** October 31, 2011, 10:05:55 am »

Does anyone know whether there is a way on the DSOX3 series, to stream "lister" data over USB or on the LAN, i.e. the decoded data stream from the logic analyzer? Or to save a long stream to USB to later analyze long dumps? Would be a very useful function!

TR · « **Reply #510 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:08:35 pm »

Has anybody tried trial licenses on the DSOX3 series scope with firmware version 2.0? Is it still possible to install trial licenses, shift the date back and use options forever? I know it's not possible to set the older date than 13.10.2011, but it is the only information which I've found. I would like to use some functions of new firmware, but I don't know whether it is good idea to upgrade from 1.21 to 2.0.

Thanks
Tomas

ferkapu · « **Reply #511 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:58:40 am »

I'm also interested.
Maybe there is no risk of loosing trial lisenses if firmware can be downgraded form 2.00 back to 1.21 after try-out 2.0.
Can it be downgraded?

sgyuri · « **Reply #512 on:** February 10, 2012, 12:36:33 pm »

Hi please me 1.21 firmware file for downgrade my 3034A
Thks

Blue · « **Reply #513 on:** February 19, 2012, 10:11:38 pm »

Hi Sgyuri,

Why would you like to downgrade ?
Does your question imply that the time trick does not work on the newest firmware with regard to the trial licences?

sgyuri · « **Reply #514 on:** February 20, 2012, 09:34:59 am »

Hi Blue

I have not tried. A license to expire tomorrow (21.02.2012) and getting ready.
Security preparations.

Blue · « **Reply #515 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:20:55 pm »

Hi Sgyuri,

Please set the time back to the beginning of time.
And tell us if your trials licences are still working...

Thank you

benemorius · « **Reply #516 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:21:04 am »

Quote from: Blue on February 19, 2012, 10:11:38 pm

Does your question imply that the time trick does not work on the newest firmware with regard to the trial licences?

The time trick does work on 2.00, however 2.00 does not allow the date to be set back further than october of 2011 (or something like that... I don't remember the date with any certainty) so if your trial licenses expired before then you are out of luck.

sgyuri · « **Reply #517 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:14:29 am »

Join. Works for me. Fortunately, all the license the date you asked for, so just keep datáumot to this province..

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #518 on:** February 22, 2012, 09:46:32 am »

Quote from: benemorius on February 21, 2012, 08:21:04 am

Quote from: Blue on February 19, 2012, 10:11:38 pm

Does your question imply that the time trick does not work on the newest firmware with regard to the trial licences?

The time trick does work on 2.00, however 2.00 does not allow the date to be set back further than october of 2011 (or something like that... I don't remember the date with any certainty) so if your trial licenses expired before then you are out of luck.

Has anyone checked if the date can be set back using the remote command ?
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/3000_series_prog_guide.pdf?&cc=GB&lc=eng Page 815

kaz911 · « **Reply #519 on:** February 22, 2012, 01:59:06 pm »

Maybe it is possible to use Agilent Command Expert to automate setting the date. :-) (A free download)

http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?ckey=2036130&id=2036130&nid=-33373.992473.00&cmpid=zzfindcommandexpert&lc=eng&cc=US

-k

mikeselectricstuff · « **Reply #520 on:** February 23, 2012, 11:20:38 am »

I think you can enter commands via the web interface

_Sin · « **Reply #521 on:** February 23, 2012, 11:54:44 am »

I seem to remember trying to install Agilent's software, and I couldn't find a PC with low enough spec.

sgyuri · « **Reply #522 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:01:27 pm »

Someone has managed to generate licens file?
I need a MSO License

Bored@Work · « **Reply #523 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:02:45 pm »

Quote from: sgyuri on February 25, 2012, 08:01:27 pm

I need a MSO License

Call Agilent. They are for sure happy to sell you one.

benemorius · « **Reply #524 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:27:09 pm »

Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on February 22, 2012, 09:46:32 am

Has anyone checked if the date can be set back using the remote command ?
http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/3000_series_prog_guide.pdf?&cc=GB&lc=eng Page 815

No go. For dates prior to 2011.10.13 the response is "Data out of range" and sometimes "settings conflict" on firmware 2.00.2011101301

Probably we can expect that date to be updated with each firmware release, which is very sad for hobbyists indeed.

I wonder how likely it would be that Agilent might consider implementing hobbyist/non-commercial pricing for the licences and LAN/VGA modules in a range that we can actually afford. They've managed to bring the scopes themselves into range, which is awesome, but then why keep the optional extras so far out of reach?


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