Thunderf00t has lost last of his marbles and remaining bits of credibility

[EEVblog]

The latest one I've seen was Jeri Ellsworth who has moved to Bluesky after Trump won and she deleted her X account. Now she has stated she wants nothing to do anyone who voted for Trump.

Wow, what a what a pity. I really don't understand really smart people completely rejecting others (in this case 1/4 of the country) over some political views.

It's even in her bio 
https://bsky.app/profile/jeriellsworth.bsky.social

[wraper]

Well, I guess Thunderf00t has exacerbation relatively mild then, especially considering his previous track record.

[Monkeh]

It's always fun to watch two sides throw labels around while pretending they're behaving differently.

[Sorama]

The latest one I've seen was Jeri Ellsworth who has moved to Bluesky after Trump won and she deleted her X account. Now she has stated she wants nothing to do anyone who voted for Trump.

Wow, what a what a pity. I really don't understand really smart people completely rejecting others (in this case 1/4 of the country) over some political views. And in this case it's not like Trump was not a president already, everyone survived, no death camps were build.

“Over some political views” ??
Seriously?
This has nothing to do with political views, only with self esteem and one’s (in)competency.
One must be an utterly moron to choose a president that is a convicted criminal in dozens of cases who has not the slightest respect for others (and thus rejecting half of the American population).
Or someone that believes others will eat your cat or dogs.
Talking about smart people…not everyone survived it.

[Psi]

Anyone who's 100% sure Trump getting in was a bad thing, or is 100% sure Trump getting in was a good thing, is equally wrong.
It's just not that simple, there's too much chaos and unknowns in politics to be able to make that call.
Stating it outright just shows a lack of understanding.

Both options for president came with positives and negatives.

[Sorama]

Anyone who's 100% sure Trump getting in was a bad thing, or is 100% sure Trump getting in was a good thing, is equally wrong.

It's just not that simple, there's too much chaos and unknowns in politics to be able to make that call.
Stating it outright just shows a lack of understanding.

Both options for president came with positives and negatives.

Decency is simple.
Basic respect for people and in particular women ( shall we all grab “them”) is simple.
No need to defend the outcome with things like chaos or unknowns.
No need to hide behind so called complexity or lack of understanding.
What don’t you understand about basic respect for people, Mexicans or not?

It is not unknown he is a true criminal: what does it tell about someone (those who voted for him) who wants a criminal as the most important person of the world ?

[wraper]

Anyone who thinks either candidate is a choice of decency but other is pure evil, needs their brain checked and get a break from mass media for a few months.

[Psi]

IMHO
  If Kamala had won everything would likely be pretty much the same 4 years from now. Maybe a bit better, maybe a bit worse but overall similar.
  Trump is more likely to shake things up and make significant changes. How that ultimately plays out, for better or worse, is anyone's guess.

There is some validity to the viewpoint that a shake up is needed and a good thing. A shake up can ultimately be positive even if it's in a negative direction because it can become a catalyst to trigger positive changes later on that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
Sometimes things have to get worse in order to get better. 
But rapid changes do obviously come with much higher risks in the short term.

[wraper]

“Over some political views” ??
Seriously?
This has nothing to do with political views, only with self esteem and one’s (in)competency.
One must be an utterly moron to choose a president that is a convicted criminal in dozens of cases who has not the slightest respect for others (and thus rejecting half of the American population).

Didn't it hit you that the opposite side thinks about the same? And real morons are those who placed themselves on moral high ground and are so effing blind that cannot accept possible reasonableness or just effing existence of contradictory view.

[Sorama]

One doesn’t need a break from mass media to know half of the Americans chose a convicted criminal.

It’s hilarious to see trump voters ignore those facts and hide about complexity and other so called reasons.
Choosing for Trump says a lot more of that voter than about Trump.

It means you agree and promote what he does.
It means those people can’t even count correctly (votes).
And they did have an alternative.

But hey, I couldn’t care less.
 Let,s talk again in a few years.
In the mean time the rest is of the world is laughing about the US.

[Psi]

Decency is simple.
Basic respect for people and in particular women ( shall we all grab “them”) is simple.
It is not unknown he is a true criminal: what does it tell about someone (those who voted for him) who wants a criminal as the most important person of the world ?

Yes Decency is simple.   

And yes Decency is a quality we should all look for and want in a president and in everyone.

But a lack of Decency doesn't rule someone out as having anything positive to contribute to society.

History is full of people who went through life doing both very good things and also very bad things all at the same time.

Evidence of someone doing bad things doesn't mean we should block any good things they try to do. (A stupid line of reasoning I see often).
As if admiring something good that a person did is somehow wrong because that person also did this other bad thing. 
Evidence of bad things being done simply means there should be an investigation and fair judgment/punishment given for the bad things they did. That's all.

[Sorama]

“Over some political views” ??
Seriously?
This has nothing to do with political views, only with self esteem and one’s (in)competency.
One must be an utterly moron to choose a president that is a convicted criminal in dozens of cases who has not the slightest respect for others (and thus rejecting half of the American population).

Didn't it hit you that the opposite side thinks about the same? And real morons are those who placed themselves on moral high ground and are so effing blind that cannot accept possible reasonableness or just effing existence of contradictory view.

Well, that opposite side is not convicted dozens of time,is not grabbing women by their … , is not eating cats or dogs and does have a high education level ( as a prosecutor).

And did not promote injecting themselves with bleach.
So who needs their brains checked ??

[Sorama]

Decency is simple.
Basic respect for people and in particular women ( shall we all grab “them”) is simple.
It is not unknown he is a true criminal: what does it tell about someone (those who voted for him) who wants a criminal as the most important person of the world ?

Yes Decency is simple.   

And yes Decency is a quality we should all look for and want in a presentient and in everyone.

But a lack of Decency doesn't rule someone out as having anything positive to contribute to society.

History is full of people who went through life doing both very good things and also very bad things all at the same time.

Evidence of someone doing bad things doesn't mean we should block any good things they try to do. (A stupid line of reasoning I see often).
As if admiring something good that a person did is somehow wrong because that person also did this other bad thing. 
Evidence of bad things being done simply means there should be an investigation and fair judgment/punishment given for the bad things they did. That's all.

And the investigation was there, a jury judged guilty at least 34 times but punishment won’t be there.

That’s all indeed.
Still, every single American that voted for trump voted for a criminal that is also a moron.
You want people to have respect for such idiots?

[Smokey]

...
And did not promote injecting themselves with bleach.
So who needs their brains checked ??

https://samharris.substack.com/p/literally-and-seriously

It was Salena Zito who first observed that the media took Trump “literally but not seriously,” while his supporters took him “seriously but not literally.”

[SiliconWizard]

And... this thread is going to get locked in probably not too long. Well done.

[John B]

Don't hold heroes in your mind.

I've watched Thunderf00t for more than 15 years. I have zero personal investment in him so I enjoy what I enjoy and discard the rest. For the last few years there's been a lot of discarding

Most of his content was in the atheistic realm. As an aside, there were many people in the US "movement atheism" who had large followings, but greatly inflated and overestimated intelligence.

Even the supposed "thought leaders" like Sam Harris and Neil Degrasse Tyson have gone off the deep end as of late.

[tom66]

The guy's just jealous that he'll never achieve in his whole life what Elon has done in a few years

I don't think you want to achieve that. IMHO Elon is suffering from a severe burn-out, sleep deprivation and probably other mental health issues caused by the stress he must be under constantly. There is a documentary about Robbie Williams on Netflix. Being under relentless pressure to keep performing sucks massively.

Elon is supposedly a habitual user of ketamine and barbituates.  It might go some way to explain his apparent shift in personality in the last 5-10 years.  He's always been demanding of his staff, and for the kind of person he is, that's expected.  But he just doesn't seem 'right' any more.  Buying Twitter on impulse then fighting a court case to not buy it.  CyberTruck is... whatever it is.  Getting into petty internet arguments with politicians of other countries. He used to be an awkward, high performing nerd, now he's whatever this is.

[EEVblog]

And... this thread is going to get locked in probably not too long. Well done.

Yep, sorry I kinda started that.
Please no more Trump talk, it's already enough.

[EEVblog]

I've watched Thunderf00t for more than 15 years. I have zero personal investment in him so I enjoy what I enjoy and discard the rest. For the last few years there's been a lot of discarding

I don't understand how people aren't capable of doing this.
I've done a whole video on how some viewers say they have "lost all respect" for me because I had some view they didn't agree with   
It's just silly. I don't know how people survive in the real world with an attitude like that, it leads nowhere but a downward spiral.

I don't particually like Thunderf00t's or CSS's Elon bashing for the sake of it, but it's easy and obvious to detect and simply choose to skip that particular content.
Sooner or later content you do enjoy will come along again.

Most of his content was in the atheistic realm. As an aside, there were many people in the US "movement atheism" who had large followings, but greatly inflated and overestimated intelligence.

I used to be heavily into the Youtube atheist movement, and if I didn't start the EEVblog I probably would have ended up doing anti-religion videos or something.
"Woke" identity politics is what killed the atheism community, with Atheism+ being the biggest offender. Everyone "took a side" and that was all she wrote.

Even the supposed "thought leaders" like Sam Harris and Neil Degrasse Tyson have gone off the deep end as of late.

The Sam Harris decline was sad.
I wouldn't put Neil Tyson in the thought leader category, he's just a great communicator and sound bite guy.

[nctnico]

Anyone who's 100% sure Trump getting in was a bad thing, or is 100% sure Trump getting in was a good thing, is equally wrong.
It's just not that simple, there's too much chaos and unknowns in politics to be able to make that call.
Stating it outright just shows a lack of understanding.

Both options for president came with positives and negatives.

The elephant in the room is that the political system in de US stems from the time the elite wanted to stay in power so the elite constructed the political system in a way it looks democratic but isn't. Nowadays the US politicians have degraded that system into having fans like each political party is a football, soccer club or something like that. The only choice left is between bad or worse. I'm not allowed to used the T word but it will be another 4 years of mayhem & madness 

[nctnico]

"Woke" identity politics is what killed the atheism community, with Atheism+ being the biggest offender. Everyone "took a side" and that was all she wrote.

Nowadays everyone wants to be like a cat inside their own box with a label stuck onto it.

[EEVblog]

Political and other aspects of someone's mind can be just as partitioned.

Media brainwashing is real. And people don't usually make up their own minds on political and other topics, they have them assigned to them by the media they consume. You just aren't aware of this.
There is a lot of research that intelligent poeple are easier to brainwash than less intelligent people. Hypnotists know this, it's one of the basic tenets.
Once hynotised by brain washing, it's easy for it to intrude into other aspects of your life and work.

[EEVblog]

"Woke" identity politics is what killed the atheism community, with Atheism+ being the biggest offender. Everyone "took a side" and that was all she wrote.

Nowadays everyone wants to be like a cat inside their own box with a label stuck onto it.

Actually, I'll give thunderf00t due credit on the Atheism thing, when it all hit the fan he just stated his opinion, and effectively walked away from the community.
And for those who don't know, he was one of the biggest original Atheist Youtubers, like top 3, so that must have been hard. He had a 50 part series on why people laugh at creationists.

[nctnico]

"Woke" identity politics is what killed the atheism community, with Atheism+ being the biggest offender. Everyone "took a side" and that was all she wrote.

Nowadays everyone wants to be like a cat inside their own box with a label stuck onto it.

Actually, I'll give thunderf00t due credit on the Atheism thing, when it all hit the fan he just stated his opinion, and effectively walked away from the community.
And for those who don't know, he was one of the biggest original Atheist Youtubers, like top 3, so that must have been hard. He had a 50 part series on why people laugh at creationists.

It sounds like Atheism became a religion... So walking away is the only right thing to do for a true atheist.

Personally I've also witnessed that at some point there are people within a group which start to tell others on how to behave and what is required to be part of the group and what is a big no-go. Probably stems from insecurities in those people but when other people start to follow, I'm out of there.

[tggzzz]

"Woke" identity politics is what killed the atheism community, with Atheism+ being the biggest offender. Everyone "took a side" and that was all she wrote.

Nowadays everyone wants to be like a cat inside their own box with a label stuck onto it.

Actually, I'll give thunderf00t due credit on the Atheism thing, when it all hit the fan he just stated his opinion, and effectively walked away from the community.
And for those who don't know, he was one of the biggest original Atheist Youtubers, like top 3, so that must have been hard. He had a 50 part series on why people laugh at creationists.

It sounds like Atheism became a religion... So walking away is the only right thing to do for a true atheist.

Personally I've also witnessed that at some point there are people within a group which start to tell others on how to behave and what is required to be part of the group and what is a big no-go. Probably stems from insecurities in those people but when other people start to follow, I'm out of there.

I like the concept of "militant agnosticism"