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KJDS:
--- Quote from: Galenbo on February 02, 2015, 07:06:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: KJDS on January 31, 2015, 08:59:37 pm ---I went to see a customer a few years ago and he was in a bad mood, having spent his morning teaching people with Masters degrees to solder.
I pointed out that I'd rather spend a morning teaching someone to solder then a couple of months to get them proficient in control theory.
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So why doesn't he hire Masters that have proven their skills to solder?
Was their management course result more important?
I solder since I was 12 years old, including plastic toys.
Chances are that the ones that can solder are way better in control theory, too.
Not in repeating the graphs, words and formulas, but in looking at the result and defining possible shortcomings.
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Why do you think that a correlation might occur between soldering skills and control theory
linux-works:
--- Quote from: KJDS on February 02, 2015, 08:23:58 pm ---Why do you think that a correlation might occur between soldering skills and control theory
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I think I see a correlation. too much coffee -> shaking hands -> can't control the position of the soldering iron well.
LOL
"It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion."
that's control theory, right? back off the coffee so you can solder properly?
(heh)
jpb:
--- Quote from: KJDS on February 02, 2015, 08:23:58 pm ---
Why do you think that a correlation might occur between soldering skills and control theory
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One of my lecturers (in computer science) told us that there was a high degree of correlation between the time at which people found the room for the registration and induction at the start of the degree course and the resultant class of degree at the end.
His suggestion was it would save a lot of time and effort if they didn't bother with final exams and just awarded degrees in the order at which candidates came to the introductory talk! :)
zapta:
--- Quote from: KJDS on February 02, 2015, 08:23:58 pm ---Why do you think that a correlation might occur between soldering skills and control theory
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Because soldering is one of his stronger skills. People come with all kinds of strange rationales to justify why they are valuable more than others.
Galenbo:
--- Quote from: KJDS on February 02, 2015, 08:23:58 pm ---Why do you think that a correlation might occur between soldering skills and control theory
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1. I see no inverse correlation, the way you stated it.
2. Don't mention "control theory", please specify, like:
A) writing down an exact copy of something in a book about control theory
B) making a painting about a guy explaining control theory
C) a guy that knows how to apply what he learnt in the lessons control theory, in a real experiment
D) ...
I choose C, you can choose the same, or another.
What I saw in my education as engineer, is that there was only a minority that was hands-on, and guess what? VERY often they were multi-hands-on. They repaired their bycicle, played with electronic kits, made something in wood, made an RC plane, and so on.
When we were in projects, those hands-on of course were better and faster in soldering, making a base plate, but also in applying control theory. They went straight forward over the known issues like V-max and V+max, PID factor limiting, simple filtering, installing a fast working demo, doing some tests on it and then, with that data, open the books and see how to refine.
In big contrast to the so-called theorists, still discussing about the usage of the right word, arguing about overcomplex models till none of them knew anymore what they were talking about. Every time again. Think they all ended up in sales and management. At least I saw their efforts afterward.
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