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Karel:
I couldn't resist  ;D

https://techexplorations.com/blog/kicad/kicad-6-review-new-and-improved-features/

thinkfat:
Manually exporting the net list was never a thing with KiCad 5 either. I cannot remember ever having to do it. I always used "Update PCB from Schematic".

Whales:
Kicad 6?  Chrome is already up to version 88 and Firefox 84, Kicad really needs to catch up.

On a more serious note: it looks like a lot of interface changes have occurred, I'll have to see how they feel in-person.  I really hope eeschema's background colour hasn't changed to grey as the screenshots suggest.


Thinkfat is right about the update PCB from schematic stuff:


--- Quote ---To be fair, in KiCad 5, the “Update PCB from Schematic” button did exist, under the Tools menu. But in KiCad 6, the transition to a netlist file-less workflow is complete.
--- End quote ---

What was incomplete about it previously?  It works fine in 5.1.8 and it's on the toolbar, not just hidden in a menu.  Maybe an error/oversight in this article (it's a really big article)?

janoc:

--- Quote from: thinkfat on January 23, 2021, 11:55:56 am ---Manually exporting the net list was never a thing with KiCad 5 either. I cannot remember ever having to do it. I always used "Update PCB from Schematic".

--- End quote ---

You still could do it and it was sometimes useful - e.g. when you didn't want to delete some components that weren't in the schematic on netlist update. And before version 5 it was the only way to do things. The "Update PCB" button only automated the workflows of exporting the netlist and reloading it in the PCB editor.

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Whales on January 23, 2021, 12:08:21 pm ---Kicad 6?  Chrome is already up to version 88 and Firefox 84, Kicad really needs to catch up.

On a more serious note: it looks like a lot of interface changes have occurred, I'll have to see how they feel in-person.  I really hope eeschema's background colour hasn't changed to grey as the screenshots suggest.


Thinkfat is right about the update PCB from schematic stuff:


--- Quote ---To be fair, in KiCad 5, the “Update PCB from Schematic” button did exist, under the Tools menu. But in KiCad 6, the transition to a netlist file-less workflow is complete.
--- End quote ---

What was incomplete about it previously?  It works fine in 5.1.8 and it's on the toolbar, not just hidden in a menu.  Maybe an error/oversight in this article (it's a really big article)?

--- End quote ---

I'm not quite sure yet how far they have gone with this "change". Yes, it was already available before. BUT... I think behind the scene, they were still using netlists. I suspect the change is that now they are using some kind of internal data instead of netlists, or something.

I remember it was discussed on the Kicad forum last year - particularly, I was making the point that netlist -> PCB was a useful feature for people willing to use the PCB editor without using the schematic editor (I was working on a schematic-less design tool that would export to a Kicad netlist).

Some people on the forum assured me they would just make the schematic -> PCB more "seamless" (still not completely sure what they really added in v6), but that they wouldn't remove the "netlist import" feature in PCBnew. But I was still concerned that they would now have little incentive to maintain the netlist import feature, and that in time, it might become not up-to-date and eventually would disappear. Which would frankly SUCK.

Anyone knows for sure if the netlist import in PCBnew will still be supported in v6?

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