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Title: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: sacentre on June 20, 2023, 02:53:35 pm
I've been using these low-cost rosin based soldering fluxes for years (see photos) with the traditional 60/40 solder for general electronics assembly - mostly just hobby kits, occasional repair work and recently some smt assembly etc (I haven't yet tried using solder paste with hot air for soldering ICs).

Since I'm about to order a fresh supply, I thought I'd ask first if anyone had any views about "better" alternatives. I see a huge range of prices  for flux pastes and liquids etc. I'm assuming there's a reason for this and wonder if there's anything to be gained from paying more for a different type or brand.

Right now though I've no idea exactly what advantage a "better" flux would offer since my experience is limited - improved flow? cleaner joints? 
Can anyone advise?
TIA
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: David Hess on June 20, 2023, 04:22:20 pm
Some work better than others, but there is no way to know which without testing.

Kester's 44 (now 1544?) flux in liquid and paste is excellent but no longer generally available.
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: thm_w on June 20, 2023, 09:14:35 pm
I don't know about "better" but its more convenient to have the paste flux in a syringe. I use either the generic noclean amtech clones or the MG chemicals paste.
https://mgchemicals.com/products/soldering-supplies/soldering-flux/soldering-flux-paste/ (https://mgchemicals.com/products/soldering-supplies/soldering-flux/soldering-flux-paste/)
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/4000258887808.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/4000258887808.html)

Big clive mixes up his own liquid version with IPA in a little dropper bottle. Thats probably the cheapest liquid option.
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: asmi on June 21, 2023, 03:20:31 pm
I use this flux: https://www.chipquik.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=310004 (https://www.chipquik.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=310004)
Highly recommend, works like charm, and is easy to wash away after soldering!
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: tooki on June 22, 2023, 06:57:01 pm
I've been using these low-cost rosin based soldering fluxes for years (see photos) with the traditional 60/40 solder for general electronics assembly - mostly just hobby kits, occasional repair work and recently some smt assembly etc (I haven't yet tried using solder paste with hot air for soldering ICs).

Since I'm about to order a fresh supply, I thought I'd ask first if anyone had any views about "better" alternatives. I see a huge range of prices  for flux pastes and liquids etc. I'm assuming there's a reason for this and wonder if there's anything to be gained from paying more for a different type or brand.

Right now though I've no idea exactly what advantage a "better" flux would offer since my experience is limited - improved flow? cleaner joints? 
Can anyone advise?
TIA
The Felder flux you show is NOT for electronics! Zinc chloride fluxes are for coarser electrical and mechanical work only. Do not use them on stranded wire.
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: wraper on June 22, 2023, 07:37:18 pm
Good fluxes for electronics never come in tin jars. Either not good or not suitable for electronics at all.
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: wraper on June 22, 2023, 07:43:05 pm
https://www.felder.de/products/metal-construction-industry/soft-soldering/fluxes-for-cu-cu-alloys/loetfett-243100501.html (https://www.felder.de/products/metal-construction-industry/soft-soldering/fluxes-for-cu-cu-alloys/loetfett-243100501.html)
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Flux based on zinc chloride and ammonium chloride with pasty consistency for soft soldering of copper and copper alloys for copper pipe installations, radiator construction, plumbing, dip soldering, fitting manufacturing and other solder works.

And even on pipes you still need to wash it off to avoid corrosion. As of electronics, zinc chloride is nearly impossible to wash off entirely as it penetrates PCB substrate.
Title: Re: Advice on solder flux/paste
Post by: tooki on June 23, 2023, 08:52:14 am
Good fluxes for electronics never come in tin jars. Either not good or not suitable for electronics at all.
Yep. Though they used to! (I still have a tin of Kester 44 from the early 1990s.) :P