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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2018, 12:25:56 pm »
This guy broke the rules. I just asked them at Allpcb, see the response.   This guy ( using the same username ) had just shared the links back to Allpcb to get a credit.
I think the penny just dropped.   the comment as best i can translate it was " OMG,  We did not mean our customers to be spammers ".     
Very expensive lesson for them to have just learned.
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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2018, 12:29:30 pm »
This is so fustrating.  Trying to genuinely help these guys, as they have been really helpful to me. Yet they keep kicking own goals.     
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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2018, 12:32:05 pm »
Is there an implicit rule in EEVBlog, that making comment posts for 'gain' ( aka getting directly paid out for the comment is against the rules ? )

The only thing i coudl see was in teh "About us".      ( not that you really need a set of rules),...


Commercial spamming is not tolerated though.
He didn't just try to gain by posting, he dishonestly tried to trick people by using a sock puppet account. You shouldn't need rules to understand that's not acceptable. It's also a form of commercial spam, which actually is explicitly banned.
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2018, 12:47:11 pm »
Is there an implicit rule in EEVBlog, that making comment posts for 'gain' ( aka getting directly paid out for the comment is against the rules ? )

There isn't, but maybe I should add it.

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Commercial spamming is not tolerated though.

Neither are sockpuppet account.
If Ramin110 had just posted for gain we could have just deleted those posts and said don't do it again, and he could have stayed. But creating a sockpuppet account to talk up the company is against the rules and will not be tolerated.
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2018, 12:51:12 pm »
Is there an implicit rule in EEVBlog, that making comment posts for 'gain' ( aka getting directly paid out for the comment is against the rules ? )

There isn't, but maybe I should add it.

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Commercial spamming is not tolerated though.

Call me dumb, but where are the rules?

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2018, 12:52:55 pm »
Is there an implicit rule in EEVBlog, that making comment posts for 'gain' ( aka getting directly paid out for the comment is against the rules ? )

There isn't, but maybe I should add it.

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Commercial spamming is not tolerated though.

Call me dumb, but where are the rules?

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2018, 12:58:05 pm »
Even without any specific rules, typically etiquette on all forums is that you put your business in the signature and then carry on like a regular, helpful forum member.

If someone specifically asks you about your products, you reply, otherwise you keep your shilling to yourself.


 
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2018, 01:05:55 pm »
There isn't, but maybe I should add it.

Neither are sockpuppet account.
If Ramin110 had just posted for gain we could have just deleted those posts and said don't do it again, and he could have stayed. But creating a sockpuppet account to talk up the company is against the rules and will not be tolerated.
If such a rule is added, it might be wise to clarify if and how it applies to distributors, people with a commercial website or people selling items. Especially some of the distributors here can be rather one sided and persistent, with their own personal financial interest obviously being the motivation.
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2018, 04:47:10 pm »
Even without any specific rules, typically etiquette on all forums is that you put your business in the signature and then carry on like a regular, helpful forum member.
If someone specifically asks you about your products, you reply, otherwise you keep your shilling to yourself.

Yep, this.
We have quite a few commercial companies and reps on the forum, and it's mostly a case-by-case basis on whether they are accepted by the community or not.
This generally takes the form of user reports. If people start reporting and complaining then we generally give them the flick.
It's a difficult/impossible thing to make a blanker rule about because we have good examples of valuable forum contributions from companies and dealers, but also bad examples on companies in the same market space.
 
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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2018, 05:55:29 am »
ALLPCB has removed their pages soliciting paid reviews. Of the three links I posted earlier, two are now 404 errors. The third has the message:
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Dear Customers,


Thank you for your continuous support for ALLPCB. We appreciate your business.

ALLPCB has previously operated a program where we offered discount coupons in return for good reviews. We made a mistake doing this and we know we need to remedy this. Effectively immediately ALLPCB will no longer be offering any coupons for public reviews or comments. We were reminded that some of our customers posted comments which where spam in order to get a discount. We are very sorry that our program caused this problem and we know it damaged our reputation. We value your honest feedback and hope that the quality and value of our products will be sufficient for you to recommend us to your friends and colleagues.


We are very sorry for any trouble that we caused. Our intentions were not bad, but in retrospect this was not a good thing to do.


Yay!

- Bob
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2018, 06:05:10 am »
i hope in time that they can regain some reputation and people can be forgving of their mistakes.     A bit of kindness keeps the world going.

Some appropriate pressure in the right place had the desired effect.  You can see thigns change if you apply enough pressure in teh right places.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2018, 07:19:01 am by mrpackethead »
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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #61 on: October 14, 2018, 06:23:37 am »
Imagine how many westerners think Chinese people eat pet dogs.

 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2018, 06:40:50 am »
Imagine how many westerners think Chinese people eat pet dogs.



With almost 1.4B population, you bet some idiots will eat anything they come across.
There are dog thieves, just very uncommon.
 

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Re: ALLPCB Spammers
« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2018, 07:40:08 am »
Since Allpcb made changes to not pay for reviews, has anyone seen any spam?
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